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Old 04-08-2004, 10:25 AM   #83 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally posted by matthew330
This is because of the love-fest the left has for ANYTHING that can be spun to make this country and our troops look like bumbling fools, as much as we all know you support them. It'd be one thing if you were as discerning of this type of info, as you were with stories that actually make this country look good.

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US,
LAW ABIDING,
NAVY VETERAN,
CITIZEN HERE.

I HAVE THE RIGHT TO QUESTION AND VOICE MY VIEWS ON MY GOVERNMENT AND THE PRESIDENT ANYWAY ANYTIME AND IN ANY CIVIL AND NON THREATENING MANNER!

TO FUCKING SAY THAT BECAUSE OF MY POLITICS I HAVE NO SAY OR IMPLY MY SAY IS OF LITTLE VALUE, IS TO SAY, YOU, SIR, TRULY DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREEDOM. FOR OUR COUNTRY IS BASED ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXCHANGING OF IDEAS PEACEFULLY, AND WITHOUT ANY FORM OF RETRIBUTION OR HARRASSMENT OF DIFFERING BELIEFS. TO CALL ME UNPATRIOTIC OR TO REFER TO ME OR MY BELIEFS AS UNPATRIOTIC IS IN AND OF ITSELF UNPATRIOTIC.

I WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH (AS PROVEN WHEN I WAS IN THE NAVY) FOR MY FREEDOMS AND YOUR GRANTED TO US BY GOD AND BY THE GREAT FRAMERS OF THIS NATION, JEFFERSON, ADDAMS, FRANKLIN, HAMILTON AND SO ON.

I WILL NOT EVER SUPPORT A PRESIDENT, NOR A WAR OF TOTAL FABRICATION, LIES AND MUSCLE SHOWING (I DO, HOWEVER, PRAY FOR SAFE RETURN OF EVERY MILITARY PERSON WE SENT OVER, WHICH YES, PEOPLE CAN DO, BELIEVE IT OR NOT )

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO I AM, SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA EXCEPT FROM WHAT I HAVE SAID IN POSTS AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND HAVE BEEN TOLD TO BELIEVE (FROM OTHERS) WHAT I MEAN FROM MY POSTS.

I AM EX NAVY, MY BEST FRIEND IS NOW OVER THERE IN A MARINE UNIFORM. WE ARE BROTHERS FROM A DIFFERENT MOTHER.

I DONOT GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK I MEAN OR WHAT YOU FEEL I MEAN. DO NOT EVER QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT I SUPPORT THE TROOPS, YOU SHOW HOW TRULY IGNORANT YOU ARE.

Sorry for the rant but I am growing very tired of the right's implications that because I do not morally and philosophically in anyway agree with this war and believe events like this just add more fuel, then I in no way can support our troops or that I am unpatriotic.

And 1 final note: SF has the same right to speak his mind in the US as anyone else. The only reason this became a flame thread was because people took it there. It's like the media, you don't like what a guy says turn it off and walk away. Unfortunately, and I myself am very guilty of this, you read a thread you see implications being made or know from a previous thread someone is going to attack and the emotions take over.

Sad really what this country has come to. there was a time not too long ago when both sides got along and it wasn't a power struggle over who was right and who is wrong. Back then it was just do it if it helps better the country, no matter which side it came from, and people debated peacefully, maybe changed minds or at least allowed the other to see the reasoning behind their views and walked away as friends. They did not argue and fight and try to draw blood and lust for all the power, and attack private lives and families and whatever.

Heaven forbid, if you truly are like the vast 80% of Americans and by nature are a centrist you are attacked WRONGLY but equally harsh from both sides for not being able to make a decision.

IN THE END THERE IS NO LEFT THERE IS NO RIGHT TO BE CONSIDERED THE ONLY THING TO BE CONSIDERED IS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH OF OUR CHILDREN AND THIS COUNTRY THAT WE ALL LOVE.
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