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Old 03-05-2004, 01:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
pan6467
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History lesson...............

Conservatives are followers of Adam Smith (Wealth of Nations 1776), Charles Spencer's "Social Darwinism" theory among others.

Liberals, were actually called Progressive Republicans in the early 1900's and fought for social reform through government laws. They advocated, smaller business, 8hr workdays, 6 work day weeks, regulations on child labor, laws to protect unions, unemployment insurance, a minimum wage system and so on. TEDDY ROOSEVELT (Mr. UsTwo's avatar) SUPPORTED THESE AND WORKED TO PASS MANY INTO LAW.

Teddy ended up spitting the GOP party and founded the Progressive Party. That party merged with the weak Democrat Party and didn't really do much until 1932. FDR was a Progressive Democrat, ran on and put into place many of his Uncle Teddy's ideologies.

The problem is Dems. like LBJ were trying to better thier image from Vietnam and the Civil Rights Movement. So they started outrageously spending. The GOP was no better because they realized the country's wealth was having a strong military presence anywhere communism was trying to take hold.

That's a basic overview....... if a conservative wishes to debate the facts over Teddy (who is used as a conservative icon today, but was as far from conservative as JFK was).

In the end the majority of Americans are moderates, we want fair social programs with balanced spending. That's why Limbaugh can't stand moderates because once the Dems. catch on and start using that as thier platform alot of "moderate" republicans will go back to the Dem Party.
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