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Weddings, attending, cost, etc.

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by Borla, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    What is your experience with attending, being in, or otherwise being involved in a wedding?

    I ask this because of some conversations I've had recently with friends from outside of my area. It seems that there is a pretty diverse/regional view of weddings. Those that I've spoken to in the Northeast seem to have much more expensive weddings, expect much more lavish gifts, and have many traditions that are set on the material aspects of the wedding day, and events leading up to it. Here in the Midwest, and I believe in the South, people are a little less concerned with how much things cost, and often much less formal (sometimes to the point of being casual).

    If you are married, or have been, I'd be interested in your personal experiences. The same on the weddings you've attended.



    About how many weddings have you attended, or been in?

    I found it interesting in the above discussion that most had been to a dozen or less weddings. When I said "I bet I've been to 40-50" I think a few didn't believe me. So later that day I started making a list of each specific one I could remember. I got to 55 different ones before I gave up. I've been a groomsman/usher in 8. My wife has been in a few more than me, probably 10-12.

    What have most of the weddings you've been to been like?

    The vast majority of the ones I've attended have been fairly traditional and fairly formal. Not quite black tie, but definitely suit/dress type affairs with a formal ceremony. A few have been more casual, a few have been outdoors, a few have been in very nice places. I haven't been to any incredibly lavish or insanely expensive weddings, but most have been reasonably nice.

    What was your wedding like as far as setting things up/cost?

    For us, we had a rather large but fairly inexpensive wedding. My wife's parents didn't really have much money to put towards the wedding, she refused to accept any from my parents, and neither of us had much of our own at the time. My wife made it a challenge to get deals, bargain, find DIY projects, and we had a lot of friends be generous with their skills. One friend's mom ran a business of decorating for events, as a gift she loaned us almost all of the decorations we needed. Another friend was a pastry chef (real one, not 'worked at a bakery', lol) and made our cakes at cost. Another had ties to a reception hall and got it for us very cheap. A family member is a very good professional photographer (has been flown all over the world by couples to do their weddings) and gifted us his skills/pics. I'd say that when you add in ALL the expenses, we probably came in under $10k in late 1990s dollars. For over 400 people, that is a miracle.


    What are your general thoughts on the expense of weddings, and/or what you would like if/when you get married?

    I think a lot of people go too crazy. If you are putting your parents or yourselves in debt to impress a bunch of people (half of whom you probably 'had' to invite :p ) for one day, I think you are doing it wrong. On the other hand, I'm not a huge fan of uber-casual weddings either. I like the idea of everyone, including guests, dressing up for the occasion. It is a big deal, it deserves some respect. Now, at the end of the day, I don't really care what other people do. To each his own, those are just my personal opinions.
     
  2. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    I've been to 10-20 weddings and they range from quite lavish affairs to very modest (example - no real reception, except an afternoon tea in the church hall; a "surprise" wedding in the parents backyard). I think that the wedding and reception is often a day for *other* people and not the bride and groom. Quite often it is the parents who push for the big reception - it is partly for them to show off to their friends.

    Personally, if I had my time again (and having been married twice, I've been through this twice), I think there a better things to spend the money on. Having said that, if you want decent photos, don't skimp on the photographer. Dragging a non-professional to a place they might not have been to and ending up with crap is an absolute possibility. Just about everything else is negotiable.

    With respect to what guests wear, I'm not that keen on forcing people to go out and buy or hire something specific for the occasion, but have few friends who would turn up underdressed anyway. Hopefully you are inviting friends and family (who hopefully are also friends!) and they respect you enough to make an effort!

    I do wonder about the people who were at my wedding who I have hardly seen since. I think there are always a few guest list fails like that. On the other hand I have some close friends and family who don't live close by and therefore see fairly irregularly - if I was getting married tomorrow, most of these would still get an invite, so maybe we didn't do too badly.
     
  3. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    There's a distinct DIY aesthetic to a PacNW wedding in many cases. My wedding ceremony was at a rose garden in a local park; the reception was at my in-laws' house after (they have a yard like something out of Sunset magazine) under a large tent (or marquee). We rented a lot of stuff but did a fair number of things ourselves, or had people close to the wedding do them. My godmother did all the flowers; we bought a bunch of pink roses from Costco, rented some bowls, and she did the rest. I thought we hit a good balance between DIY, stress, and cost savings. We came in at about $7k, including our honeymoon. We kept our wedding small; we had about 70 guests. My MIL wanted to start inviting second cousins, and I said no to that, as my family on my mother's side from second cousins out is HUGE and if you invite one, they ALL have to be invited.

    Last summer I went to two weddings that reflected a similar aesthetic. One was the wedding of my college roommate. He and his now-wife did so much and relied on their friends to do a lot, too. My husband was in the wedding party, so we helped out a lot. They got married in the middle of an old lava bed adjacent to their friends' house, where the reception was held. We did tons of DIY for that--I put together the playlist for the dancing, I put together floral arrangements, I set tables, moved tables, the list goes on and on. Luckily, there were a lot of hands, so it went quickly, and then we kicked back with some awesome beer from Deschutes, where the bride used to work.

    The other wedding was for some very dear friends of ours, and it was held at a location known for its eclectic mix of disc golf, trout fishing, and beautiful woods (Horning's Hideout in Oregon - Your publicly accessible private park for outdoor weddings, events, fishing, camping, disc golf, and fun near Portland, Oregon). We showed up early as the plan was to have the bachelor party the night before with all of us camping out together, so we ended up helping out a lot with that wedding too (to the point that the bride's mother fell in love with my husband...can't blame her). That was a lot more work as there were fewer people. It turned out to be an interesting situation; there were a lot of people the bride had been counting on to help, but they flaked. Fortunately, we picked up a lot of the slack.

    Some good friends of ours got married the summer after we did, and that was a wonderful time. They went so far with the DIY stuff as to homebrew all the beer for the wedding. The decor was all stuff the bride had collected over the year to put together. One of the groom's relatives made candles as a favor, and the bride made magnets as another favor (I still have both). The wedding was at someone's riverfront house, and it was gorgeous. The natural setting really needed no additional decor.

    My brother-in-law's wedding was perhaps the one I've been to that was furthest away from the DIY aesthetic, which is surprising, as my SIL is a talented seamstress. They had their wedding at a venue exclusively designed for weddings in the woods; it had fountains, gardens, and a giant reception hall. They had a local restaurant cater, but the menu didn't hang together at all (yellow curry chicken does not go with ravioli in lemon cream sauce, for the record). I don't want to know how much their wedding cost, as they had a couple hundred guests; I got the impression that my SIL's mom went a little crazy in the process. Though it's not a competition, people in the family regularly tell me they preferred our wedding, as it was more intimate and more "us." The wedding my BIL and SIL had seemed very impersonal. They also had all the kids corralled in a separate building with a babysitter they provided; that rubbed so many family members the wrong way.

    I think that's probably what I enjoy seeing the most in weddings--that personal touch that lets me know whose wedding I'm attending. Most weddings out here are cocktail dress weddings if in the evening, sundresses in the afternoon. My MIL was freaking out that my BIL's wedding was going to be "too formal" and people wouldn't know what to wear; it was to the point that she offered to take me to Nordstrom and buy me a dress. I refused, as I have a perfectly serviceable black cocktail dress that has done me many good turns through the years. I looked pretty sharp, if I do say so myself!

    I went to a lot of weddings as a kid (that huge family on my mother's side), and all of them were extremely DIY. The family is known for its cooking and baking skills, so it wasn't uncommon for the wedding to be catered by the family, or to be a potluck. Times have certainly changed in that respect.
     
  4. I've been to a crap ton of weddings starting at a very early age. Then up to five years after I graduated from college, it was NOTHING but weddings it seems. I've only been in four myself though. (College roommate's, both brothers' weddings and @cinnamongirl had a wedding once) I have a large extended family and have lots of friends. @borla never said he was invited to the weddings he attended. He must have crashed them.

    I don't think I have ever been to a black tie wedding in the Midwest. We're down home folk. There were a lot of backyard weddings. Park weddings. Family church weddings. I seriously doubt anyone spent over $5,000. The couples were mostly registered at Target. The fancier people were registered at Bed, Bath and Beyond. I've been to three weddings in the PacNW. They were all at a park. Then there was the couple who got married privately and then had a big party at the groom's parents' house a year later.

    I remember my mama talking about her coworker who spent $20,000 on her daughter's wedding. It was so unheard of. The couple only lasted 2 years at that. No big lavish weddings other than that one.

    I want a party, but not a marriage. DaddySquirrel doesn't care either way, but definitely doesn't want to spend a lot of money. I don't think he realizes how basic of a wedding I'd want. The food and booze bill is all I'm worried about really. My friends and family drink a lot. I like the idea that my friends had. Get married privately (if I must), but then have a big party at someone's house.
     
  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Well, considering the last two weddings I went to were my own at the Ritz Carlton in Tyson's Corner
    and my ex-brother in law's at The Willard...and the first one I went to was my cousin's at an estate in Carmel by the Sea/Pebble Beach (which put the other two to shame...),
    my perception is a bit skewed in an over the top way. (we won't even get into the cost :rolleyes:)

    The one that was really basic...but nice was my sister's 2nd wedding...just them and my mother & I...it was calm and quiet.
    If I ever have another one...I would prefer that instead of my first.

    I'd rather focus on experiencing things after the fact...enjoy our time together, not doing some big show.
    Too much of a headache...too many expectations.
     
  6. I have a large family, lots of sibs and cousins. Seems there were a couple of weddings just about every years while I was growing up. They were all the same: parish church, fairly local hall, modest decorations with the biggest expense being food and booze. Even back then (40-50 years ago), I'm sure the cost ran into the thousands. QW and I wanted no part of any of that hoopla. We shared the feeling that it was wasted resources. We didn't want to start out by incurring debt to put on a show for other people. It was going to be our day, our way. I believe I've told the story in past TFP incarnations.

    On December 1, 1979, we decided that we should get married. On December 8, 1979, we took a small group (MIL + SO, FIL +SO, my parents and my best friend) out to breakfast, then we all went to a small church for the ceremony. Then, we invited those interested to join us at a local bar for a celebratory drink. After that, we thanked them for coming and that was the end of it. That evening, we attended her company's Christmas party and had a blast blowing peoples minds with the news. Our largest expense was paying the minister. We have never regretted it. We are approaching our 35th anniversary.

    Our younger son got married four years ago at a county fairgrounds in rural eastern Washington. The plan was an outdoor affair, semi-formal. His in-laws and friends prepared all of the food and decor, most of it homegrown (personal gardens and livestock) or handmade. A thunderstorm rolled in and we scrambled to move the party into the community center. As the time for the ceremony approached we were setting up tables and chairs and doing everything we could to make the dreary space a bit festive. The camaraderie of the effort made the ensuing celebration even more joyous. Two families from more than half the country apart bonded nicely that day.

    My older son was much more conventional, borderline lavish, with his wedding. I posted pictures of the beautiful ballroom with it's terraced seating and balconies. It was an incredible event... and all paid for with money they'd saved up in preparation. They made the day into exactly what they wanted it to be and we all had an amazing time.

    Three weddings processed three different ways, all creating indelible memories. I wouldn't change any of them.
     
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  7. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    I got married at the courthouse, stopped at Dairy Queen on the way home, then went to work.

    Held a kegger/reception/picnic at our farmhouse the following weekend. Both parents were pissed; but that was 35 years ago and they got over it.I bought the kegs, everything else was BYOB.
     
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  8. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Our best friends were married to each other in Yosemite a few years back. We were their best man and maid of honor. It was super special. It cost them the equivalent of a year and a half salary, and they paid for it themselves. They had been planning it for nearly a decade. We paid for our lodging in the park and didn't spare any cash in that regard. We wanted to have a place they could relax and be comfortable other than their own accommodations. We ended up using our room for the weding morning prep for all the female members of the bridal party. It had a beautiful view of bridal veil falls from the back patio, which was fitting. Their ceremony was on a zmountaintop with a view of half dome. The reception and dinner was at the inn. The dinner was admittedly terrible. But the cake was amazing. I know they spent a fortune making their wedding day perfect for them. It was especially hard on the bride, though, because her father was air-rushed to a hospital the night before the wedding, so could not attend. We visited him the day after the wedding in the hospital.

    Other weddings... They tend to be either overly formal or very casual. I have never been to one that was somewhere in between. It amazes me what people put together for their special days.

    I was my sister's maid of honor for her wedding. She bought my dress and designed the wedding decor around it. The rest of the party were children that she babysat/nannied. That was super sweet and adorable. Her wedding was about $400 in total, the most expensive component being her dress, which she hated but our mom loved. (After seeing how my mom and aunt took over the planning of her wedding, I wanted everything done on our terms, and involved them minimally. It was less stressful for everyone that way.) My sister's wedding was simple, hastily thrown together and had terrible food. Her wedding cake made her cry - and not in a good way. It was not as-advertised and she could have done better going with the local grocery store rather than that stupid bakery. They were very, very off on her colors. It tasted good, though. None of her friends attended, they were all away for college. That part was really pretty sad, looking back. She's divorced now. I hope she gets another wedding someday.

    Our wedding was entirely for family & friends. We paid out of pocket. My parents splurged on a photographer as a gift, which was priceless. It was at Tt's childhood church and the reception was at a local community center in the middle of a beautiful park on a sage-covered hillside. We saved where we could, on nearly every expense. A sister-in-law made a fantastic cake from scratch. A friend was our DJ. A friend was our florist. But we splurged on food - kind-of. We hired a professional caterer who provided a lunch buffet of phenomenal gourmet finger-friendly foods. We had a bartender, but provided our own beer and wine. The caterer said he had never encountered such a laid-back, genuinely fun celebration. It really confused and threw off his staff - the caterer himself didn't plan on attending but his staff had him come about an hour in because it was so unique. They couldn't believe I had no wedding planner, and that I trusted them completely to do their jobs with no oversight (ummm... Set up the table and keep it stocked? Who needs oversight?) We got an absurd amount of compliments on our food, and still people bring it up. I'll never forget the look of shock on the bartender's face when I handed him my glass of untouched champagne and asked for a glass of Shasta ginger ale (the cheapest beverage in the line-up by far, and looked out of place next to Hubby's choice of craft beers and good wine). The bartender smiled huge, like it all suddenly made sense, winked at me, and poured my flute with a flourish. I was happy that we had such a fun party, and that everyone could have fun. We had a coloring corner and tea set at a kids table... Hired a couple of babysitters to help out with keeping kids happy (at the venue) so their parents could have fun. A side note: my mother-in-law insisted on throwing our rehearsal dinner. I'm pretty sure she spent more on that dinner than we did the whole rest of the wedding, and it was horrible. Bad (made people sick!), cold food, unresponsive caterers, horrible lighting at a restaurant that was obviously posh in the 1980s but a run-down mess by 2008... She was so embarrassed by her choice. I hope she got a partial refund, she was a mess that night. Looking back, I wish I had insisted more on my original plans for a rehearsal dinner - it would have been so much less of a burden on her. Oh well. That was more my husband's choice than mine. He insisted that I was being too pushy. Hardly.
     
  9. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    Some of this reminds me of other places where we saved: one of our aunties and cousin made the cake. The photographer, one of the most expensive parts of the day, was a high school friend of my husband's--she's a pro photojournalist who does weddings on the side, but she gave us a pretty good discount, and it was absolutely worth it. She did an incredible job. Our reception food was entirely vegetarian. Some people had reservations about that before the wedding, but afterwards, people wouldn't stop talking about it. Having a veggie buffet was a lot cheaper than other, more traditional options. Oh, and @amonkie was our celebrant, and she did a wonderful job--one of the best wedding gifts we received.

    @genuinegirly, your rehearsal dinner makes me sad. I'm sure your wedding made up for it, though.

    I count myself very lucky that mine was a great experience. My MIL has a friend who is a retired professional chef, and M did all the catering. She did an amazing job. We ate out on the lawn at my in-laws, next to their koi pond, after we'd enjoyed a cocktail hour with plenty of good pinot noir under stately oaks at the back of their property. I still look back on that entire weekend with fondness. It just came up over dinner last week, and hubs and I had a nice time reminiscing.

    I should note that two pictures from my wedding decorate my living room: one is of us with our immediate families, and the other is of us with my husband's extended family. One of the things I like about the latter picture is that it has my husband's grandfather who passed last year in the foreground, along with three out of the six baby cousins (three have been born since my wedding). I need to get the picture of my extended family framed, but trying to fit three pictures on the shelf will be hard.
     
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  10. A conversation the Thanksgiving before my brother's wedding:

    Sister-in-law: The cake might be about $500
    Cheapskate brother: WHAT? Why can't ZombieSquirrel just make those cupcakes that she makes all fancy?
    Me: You're getting married in Vegas. Where am I going to make them? I'm not bringing them on a plane to get squished.
    CB: Grumble grumble grumble. I just want a lot of liquor.
    Me: oooh. Me too!
    CB: I mean right now. Grumble grumble grumble
    Me: Yeah. Me too!
     
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  11. amonkie

    amonkie Very Tilted

    Location:
    Windy City
    I was my church's back up pianist for weddings from the time I was 15 until I graduated college 2001, and so saw at least 2-3 weddings a month. I've been in 4 weddings, and since becoming ordained have officiated several as well. I am coming up on the 2nd anniversary of my own wedding.

    In the traditional church venue, I saw everything from packed to the rafters to the Green Card wedding where the bride's family didn't even speak English. Most of the ceremonies in the Arizona area take place indoors in the summer, unless you are really looking for a discount and subject your guests to 100+ degree temps up through October.

    My own wedding was bigger than we had originally planned, but it was still extremely small by many standards. We had set out to have just immediate family and 1-2 close friends. Total party size max of 25, at our favorite restaurant for dinner. Quick exchange of vows, then dig in. As always, family drama kicked in and with less than 30 days to the wedding we were given ultimatum by my FIL that he wasn't going to attend unless "we respected him" enough to have our wedding in a church.

    Anyone who has been involved in wedding planning knows that completely starting from scratch for a wedding, in almost peak season, can be a nightmare. I got very VERY lucky - bought my dress sight unseen online in a clearance flash sale, found a beautiful Army chapel that had been restored from the local Air Force base that was park of a local park district, and we had a quick appetizer reception in the basement of the church immediately following the ceremony. Our total guest count was approximately 50 guests.

    I did all of my own decorations with some help from my mom/sister/good friends who came up for the weekend. I scoured Craiglist for wedding re-sells, estate sales, and bought my linens on Amazon. The food was bought at Costco and we prepped it the night before and had it ready in coolers. In lieu of physical gifts, many of our friends and family contributed to our wedding as their gift. Our wedding cake and groomscake was made by a friend who's mom owns a professional bakery, and two years later people are still talking about her cake. Our flowers were gifted by a friend who owned a floral shop. The lovely RangerJoe was our photographer - she drove in from Indiana to capture our special day.

    All told, including dress, rings, suit, food, etc our cost was under $2k. Since we were not having any attendants, in lieu of a rehearsal dinner C and I took all of our friends/family who had come into town the day before out to the local casino for dinner, and to just hang out. We all spent the weekend at a hotel near the church, and so it became more about a weekend of getting to spend time with my family for 4 days.

    I had originally wanted a lakeside beach wedding, but our wedding window had been extremely quick. We were married just about 2 months after we decided we wanted to do it, and were trying to make sure my brother was able to attend - Deployment schedules wreak havoc with planning. The resulting window was November, and the weather was too unpredictable. We did end up having threatening grey skies and rain on our wedding day.
     
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  12. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Two weddings coming up this summer. I can't wait. One will be an up and back to the city. The other we will be camping with friends.

    I expect that they will be very different affairs.
     
  13. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    My wedding was at the local courthouse with two witnesses. Biggest cost was the rings, and they were not especially high price items.
    Two of my co-workers were married at a local park in 2013, I doubt they spent more than $1000 at most. I was the photographer at that one; casual was definitely the theme.
     
  14. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    The one good thing about Jewish weddings,open bar.
    Drawback to that is they ain't cheap.
    Jadzia had every detail planned out perfectly and I never asked how much but I know it was a lot.
    It was also just what it was supposed to be.

    My first wedding was in a friends back yard, with people in costumes and a cake made at the last minute.
    It was BYOB and was mostly Guinness.
    My ex was pinned into her dress because it didn't get finished on time.
    And it was all just what it was supposed to be.
    .
     
  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    My wife wants us to travel to England, where she's from, to attend her nephew's wedding in November. I like the young man, but neither of us really know him that well. When he was here about 10 years ago he had his head screwed on pretty straight for a young teenager.

    We don't have the spare money for both of us, or really even her alone, to make the trip. We can make it happen without having to file for bankruptcy (ha...ha...ha) but honestly the $$ would be better spent elsewhere. I've told my wife she should go without me, but that could present some problems. She would have to face her siblings, namely her brother who intentionally avoided speaking directly to her during the deaths of their parents here, on her own. I have no doubt that they would "gang up" on her, and make her feel badly about how she (we) dealt with her parents. No doubt my shortcomings would be addressed. And there are other factors which some of you might recall from another sub-forum here at TFP.

    Together we would be okay, I wouldn't let her siblings bully us and make us feel guilty. Her being on her own would not be a good situation. Or maybe everyone would get along just fine (doubtful, IMO).