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Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by girldetective, Apr 24, 2013.

  1. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    I don't know about this secure internet search engine (?). Looking it up on Wikipedia led to links for Silk Road and Hidden Wiki, which I don't know about either, but I probably should. Can any of you tell me about it, and why I might want to use it, the advantages? Or why I might NOT want to use it. Thank you.
     
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    Xerxes Bulking.

  3. Lordeden

    Lordeden Part of the Problem

    Location:
    Redneckhell, NC
    Be careful on the TOR networks, many people use it to store CP (Child porn) to trade with other pedos. My friend gave me a list once that had all the file sharing hubs that did not have CP. I only went on those. There is a lot of crazy shit out there and I don't want my fingerprints on it.

    Really, unless I was worried about what I was looking at (in a illegal or tin-foiley hat kind of way) I wouldn't worry about it. Besides file-sharing and encryption, I don't see a reason to use it.
     
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  4. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    ^^^ that's why I stopped using TOR. My friend who was thinking he was sticking it to the man by running a TOR server was turned into a babbling idiot when I revealed to him that he was helping propagate CP.

    I figured the days of real privacy were compromised years and years ago.
     
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  5. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    It was too hard to use in the early days, and still pretty questionable as to if you could trust it. Who made it, who 'really' made it, was there backdoor addresses, was it a trap, etc... It was also extremely slow, but the Internet was much slower back then too. I only tried it out for one night and I can't even remember if I got the software to work in Linux.

    The State dept will give software like this to people in foreign countries to get around their government's firewalls, but not in the US...

    The only way I would use it is on a 'new-to-me' second hand computer that I paid cash for, that I have never put my name or log-in passwords on, connected to a public wi-fi access point or neighbor-fi miles or states away from where I live or any other way to tie me to that IP address... And even then, what all is out there?
     
  6. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    I dont quite understand. There is the Internet that we all know about and then there is a Deep Internet with all the bile that is the human race?
    Would someone use Tor as their everyday search engine, rather than Google or Bing, for everyday browsing and work and such? If someone did use Tor, would they likely know that they might be in frightening territory, or could they be oblivious (as I am, or was until now)? Could someone get into innocent trouble there just by being on it or associated with it? Am I being too dramatic, asking too many questions? The trouble is Im not sure what it is I should ask, but I have a bad feeling about this and know I should be asking something.

    Geez. People can be so disappointing.
     
  7. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    Let's just say that /b has nothin' on most of Tor.
     
  8. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    TOR isn't a search engine. TOR is a method for disguising your location and making it hard for tracking you.

    here is wikipedia's definition:
     
  9. Lordeden

    Lordeden Part of the Problem

    Location:
    Redneckhell, NC
    Yeah, Tor is NOT a search engine. Tor is a series of network servers/computers that use a different set of "pathways" to reroute traffic to only those servers in order to gain online anonymity in an "internet" style space. It's basically a place for people to put things (and download them) that they don't want to get caught hosting on search engine searchable space.

    Yes, you can get in trouble just for being on some of those networks. The way the US gov operates, if you had access to it, you are involved with it. That means if you hit a TOR node that had CP on it, you are a filthy Pedo that deserves to go to jail for a long time and be socially shamed.

    The be honest GD, if you don't have a reason to be on a TOR network (or deep internettubesplaces), don't go there. If you want a taste of the deep net, just browse 4chan's /b forum and see if you want to interact with the TOR network people in a place they have "true" anonymity of their actions.

    People Suck. People are assholes and when people won't be held accountable for their actions, they do horrible, horrible things. That's human nature.
     
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  10. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    hell, skip 4chan /b and go straight for 7chan. That will really give you an idea if you want to go with TOR.

    /newfagisscurrred.
     
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  11. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    I'd like to ask you why you are asking. What do you believe you need from TOR bases on your first assumptions of it.
     
  12. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    I am asking because I had never heard of it until yesterday. I heard the word Tor, googled its definition, obviously didn't understand it, and posted for insight. A sort of personal girldetective investigation. A short sociological interest in knowing what it was, and then a worrisome one in that someone I know has been inquiring about it. Coupled with some weirdass personality traits, I wanted to gauge if there was any danger in hanging with that someone. Of course I cannot know that because I don't know what their business is in using Tor, but I can wonder why someone might feel the need for secrecy. I certainly understand privacy, but secrecy? I don't know.

    Sometimes these days I feel like Gretel (of Hansel and...), eating the sweets of the house and not seeing the foundation on which it was built. Trying to look out for myself before being pushed into the fire. And I resent having to do so.
     
  13. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    Isn't secrecy and privacy the same thing? I like to keep myself private and to many that means I'm secretive of my doings.

    I won't say what I used to do back when I was younger, but TOR would have certainly made my list of tools to have. People like to believe that they have control over privacy, and yet they don't even begin to understand just how much that's not true any longer.

    Personally, I'd not read into it anymore than a friend interested in reading survival books than thinking any more of them than what their actions dictate I should do. In other words, if they give you no reason to run away, then why run off based on an assumption? If you are so curious as to the reasons this person may have, why not be upfront and ask them directly why they think it's important to them to need to use it.
     
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  14. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    The big problem was that the Internet wasn't designed like TOR is from the start. If everyone is moving around the Internet truly anonymous, and 99% of people aren't using it for bad things, then it works. If the perception is that TOR users are all terrorists and pedophiles. Then it doesn't work, even if they are still just a small group on TOR.
     
  15. girldetective

    girldetective Getting Tilted

    Exactly. I do not want to jump to any conclusions nor do I want to ask: Are you scummy?
    Instead I wanted to do my own investigating, and in the end I will have to give the benefit of the doubt to the person because I am unwilling to ask.
    Thanks for your help in clarifying.
     
  16. MSD

    MSD Very Tilted

    Location:
    CT
    The Silk Road is a place to buy drugs online and The Hidden Wiki is like Wikipedia but with 80% of the links going to child porn instead of useful information.
     
  17. martian

    martian Server Monkey Staff Member

    Location:
    Mars
    Fair warning: I've toyed with blocking TOR on the TFP. It's my experience that nothing good comes out of the TOR network.

    For the most part, nobody gives a shit what you're doing so long as you're not misbehaving. If you are misbehaving there are equally effective ways to cover your tracks already. TOR serves no useful purpose.
     
  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Frankly, to me there really is nothing interesting on the deep net.
    I gotten to the point where I've experienced as far down the rabbit hole I've wanted to observe, both on the net and IRL.
    (BTW, there are things IRL that the net can't touch in weirdness, paranoia and the darkside...)

    Now, I keep to the shallow end of the pool and if people want to track me, let them...I'm boring.
    I'm more interested in the experiences and goals of RL...the rest of it is simply veg time like TV and movies, just more media...it fills in the blanks.

    I'd rather invest my time, mind and energy into absorbing more things of substance. (but that's just me)
    But I guess you have to experience Wonderland to know you don't want to be there.
    I'd rather be Forest Gump, than his Jenny.