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The impact of aging and social isolation

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by Street Pattern, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I entered my sixties not long ago. Things are going great for me, but I find myself thinking often about my contemporaries who didn't do so well.

    Recently, I spent most of a day with one of them, a guy I've known since high school. He's very intelligent, but never developed decent social skills, never managed to start a career, never had a romantic relationship, never even been on a date.

    That's not hard for me to imagine, because when I was younger, that's how I expected to end up.

    I just came across this poignant essay by a guy in a similar situation, albeit much younger than my friend. Social isolation is one of the worst things that can happen to a person.

    Link.
     
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  2. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    But what would the impact of a spouse be on my life? I'm not sure there are too many cute girls out there who would put up with me, my schedule, and how cheap I am.

    Yes, I never thought I would have made it to my mid thirties without having any type of relationship and being on fewer than three first 'dates' with single women *not really called out as dates officially though.

    I've always held the prospect of getting a foreign bride as a possibility though. I would have to quit my job, and then the health insurance, food, and lifestyle expenses would rack up pretty fast.
     
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  3. Cayvmann

    Cayvmann Very Tilted

    I have found that you can feel just as 'forever alone' in a relationship, when you don't feel that you are worth what you have.
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Life & relationships are a crapshoot.
    Forest Gump's mom was right.

    But you survive, make due and hopefully succeed with some effort.
    Most of the older people I know say the same.

    You've got to get good at being alone...it's your life, your terms...you can't live it for others and forget yourself. You, in the end.
    But this makes you better when you're lucky enough to have them around. (but you're not trapped either, because you've defined yourself...not defined by others)
     
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  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Some questions to frame and direct the OP into a forum discussion would be helpful.

    Since there aren't any, I'll do what I do anyway and ramble off some random thoughts that may or may not be related.

    ...

    Initial Thought: Author of OP article is a hopeless romantic that confuses various emotional masturbation fantasies for failed attempts to connect with women.

    ...

    Forever Alone. Without some critical event to intervene, time only amplifies the weird in people. People are creatures of habit and like to stay in their comfort zone. The guy that couldn't talk to women in his 20s still didn't grow a pair in his 30s and now is a virgin in his 60s. Let's call it Life Trajectory.

    It's just natural selection at work, brah.

    Those men bold enough to say "Hi," to a pair of tits get to breed (or experience love). If you're somehow too timid or too ugly or too weird AND you can't overcome your hangups... you don't get to procreate (or experience love).

    It's all the Darwinism we've got left in the first world to fight the rabbiting trailer trash and Catholics.

    ...

    Dying Alone. Given that I probably won't have children, I will have to adapt to being an old person with no family or I will be isolated in a studio apartment with the woman, a frenetic kitten and back issues of Janes small arms encyclopedias. I will have to restructure my support network of friends to accommodate for being childless as infirmity sets in on both myself and my partner, deal with services to provide for our needs instead of our non-existent family and likely have to push the grand Off button alone assuming I don't die first. Part of being an adult is learning how to deal with fork in the road and accepting that most of the time you can't go back if you feel like you made the wrong choice. Use your short time in the sun wisely, they say.

    And always tell her to cup the balls.
     
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  6. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Perhaps I should have drawn some distinctions between my longtime friend (whose life I have observed) and the unknown author of the essay I posted.

    My friend has some mental and physical challenges which make him repulsive to most people. I avoid looking him full in the face because of his tardive dyskenesia, a side effect of decades on antipsychotic drugs. His personal grooming is not as bad as it once was, but still doesn't really meet middle-class standards. He has always been rude and abrupt and almost accusatory in his manner. His voice is weirdly nasal and querulous. He sounds constantly on the verge of tears, no matter how innocuous the topic.

    I don't remember him ever complaining about his lack of romantic prospects, but he complains in dour and hopeless tones about everything else: his landlord, his employer, the weather. He is Catholic, and I believe he attends Mass regularly, but he never mentions it.
     
  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Well, is it just sexual loneliness or relationship loneliness??

    Because if it's just sexual loneliness...I wonder how life would change if we lived in one of those countries that allowed prostitution...and it was totally acceptable in society's mindset.
    France emphasizes lovers and mistresses...but you have to get people to like you and be interested for that.

    As to relationship loneliness...that's a different matter, but there are some that will tolerate anything...the Key is finding them.
    But the odds are against you, if you don't make yourself agreeable to others.
    Most of us go out of our way to make ourselves agreeable...maybe too much so.
    Others are fully unaware of their traits and habits.

    But then it's like I said, you have to learn to be alone and how to enjoy yourself being alone.
    Been there, done that.
    But in truth, if you don't want to be alone...you have to put yourself out there.
    Day after day.
    Interact, interact, interact.

    Good example is my mother...a saint, sweet woman with a fully nice personality...BUT she doesn't go anywhere, do anything, has trust issues.
    So she doesn't have any friends....just immediate and nearby family. (or her friends are rare and far away)

    Well, if you don't put yourself out there, how are they going to find you???

    Yes, there's a risk in NOT being alone.
    Yes, people can be a pain in the ass...but it's like family, they're all you got.
    Life has pain.
    People can be a pain
    But you keep movin' and groovin' despite it all.
    This is YOUR responsibility.
    Most of us aren't beautiful enough to have people clamoring for you no matter what you do. (and I'd be wary of that even)

    It's all a two way street.
     
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  8. POPEYE

    POPEYE Very Tilted

    Location:
    Tulsa
    I have lived my 52 years with people mentally ill. IMO there is absolutely nothing that can be done to change their lives for the better long term. Sure for a night or weekend or month, but the darkness always win.
     
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