sandusky

guilty on 45 of 48 charges... faces 440+ years of sodomy... may he die in the first

 

I hope he gets raped in the shower every day.

 

i'm sorry but i fail to see how "treatment" would help a person with serial frame of mind as sadistic as this... he has years of molestation history multiplied by the number of victims to include his own adopted son...

his "treatment" will be just and i hope "appropriate"

 

Just read that due to prison rape more men now are raped in the US than women.

That right there should be the basis for an anti-crime campaign.

However I don't know if Sandusky will get raped, more likely shanked.

 

What blows my mind about this is HOW LONG it took for this to come to light. It went on for years, and the kids were scared because of the prestige of his position, much like the Catholic priest phenomenon, or like that idiot Bobby Knight at Indiana (for his years of physical/mental abuse of his players). Sandusky aside - he's getting what he deserves, or at least as close to that as the law allows - we need to make it easier for victims to come forward, and to convince them that they will be believed/protected/comforted. I know there is the issue that a false allegation can be devastating to a man and his family/career, but there has to be a balance where victims don't feel they are going to be re-victimised if they say anything.

 

Silly Canadian, don't you know the only point of the justice system is revenge?

Besides, everyone knows sodomizing the rapist undoes their rapes.

 

Bobby Knight?

 

Legendary basketball coach at Indiana University. Finally got turfed after it was revealed that he was physically and mentally (NOT sexually) abusing his players, and had been for years. Should have made that clear... he WAS not sexually abusing anyone, but the prestige of being the second winningest coach in NCAA division I history made the kids afraid to stand up to him or say anything.

 

I just don't think treatment works with sex offenders. I had a caseload that was nothing but SO's for nearly 8 years. at first I bought into the idea of treatment but after about 3 yrs of watching no one succeed I decided it's a lost cause. I ended up building a house 100 miles north and moving just to get rid of that caseload only find in my new location, since I had experience in the area, I was still assigned all SO cases. There I had other cases as well but still a majority of my case load were SO's.

I don't believe he should be raped or sodomized but he should be separated from society for the rest of his life.

 

Many states have mandatory psychological/psychiatric evaluations and mandatory treatment for sex offenders. I dont know if PA is one of those states.

My broader interest is pursuing criminal charges against those at Penn State who were aware of his actions and did nothing.

 

I think it's important to address the frame of reference people approach this problem from. A person can no more be held to account for the fact that they don't have the brain of a pedophile than they can the brain of schizophrenic or any other type of brain you'd care to compare. I would guess not everyone agrees or at least wants to accept that it's dumb luck that they aren't sexually attracted to children and so aren't really prepared to be sympathetic to such a person.

 

I agree with you, Baraka, in the brainy places that house my reason and compassion. I don't know if rehabilitation or psychiatric treatment might serve to relieve or repair him but I think it's a shame not to pursue it anyway. I think it's barbaric to imprison convicted criminals of any sort and let them simply rot, which is more or less the way most maximum security prisons in the US Prison system operate these days. Also, as you mentioned and I fully agree with, there's so much we don't understand about what factors into the creation of serial pedophiles, murderers, rapists, etc.

If we loathe and despise such behavior, which we undeniably do; why isn't there greater effort to explore and understand these factors in the hopes of minimizing their occurrence or discovering ways to treat them more effectively? It makes me wonder if we, as a society are truly interested in reducing or eradicating abhorrent behavior, or if the revenge we feel after these acts have been discovered is too satisfying to give up in trade for less offense. Withdrawal's a bitch.

Sandusky is a human being who has done things that society and those of us who are not likewise afflicted, have forbidden. He's spent a good portion of his adult life denying this awful behavior (probably to himself, as well or at least found ways to self-justify) and if someone was able to get him to admit to it, does anyone here think that he would not also admit to wishing he wasn't a pedophile?

I guess if you buy into the idea of "evil", you might well believe that these were the acts of man who had the choice not to be a pedophile and chose to molest young boys anyway because he was just plain evil and of course, there can be no compassion for the evil.

"Oh yeah! What about the victims? They're the ones who deserve compassion." Of course they do but it isn't as if compassion is a limited resource and can't be applied to both victim and abuser (probably also a victim at one time)

Evolution provided us with a higher brain. Sadly, some simply refuse to use it.

I'm thrilled they found him guilty. I was seriously concerned that there might be enough reasonable doubt created by the defense to get him off.

I can only assume there'll be an appeal and wonder if he'll be let out on bond until the appeal date. Hope not.

 

Very well said. Agree completely.

Many people calling for offender like Mr. Sandusky to be submitted to what amounts to torture and basically a living hell don't really think it through in my opinion. Are they saying it's ok for another person to be an animal towards him because he was animal? I mean if he's being raped someones doing the raping, right? So they are in favor of rapists? Pretty poor logic if you ask me. Plus when a prison has a atmosphere of violence it's bad for everyone. Bad for the inmates. Bad for the staff and bad for society since the % of people who will one day be released is far higher than the % that will remain forever. If you treat a person like an animal for 5, 10,15 years and then let them out the results are fairly predictable.

 

And proven.