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Krokodil & other Nasty Drugs

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by genuinemommy, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    I keep seeing stories about Krokodil. I first heard about this drug over a year ago. At that time it was an interesting story about a drug that desperate people were crazy enough to use in Russia. I thought " Who would ever intentionally do this to themselves?"
    But then in recent months, it has been making headlines about its use spreading to the United States.
    Krokodil: Flesh-eating 'zombie' drug may be in U.S. - CNN.com
    It kills tissue by the injection site, then gangrene... it's a nasty, nasty thing. And yet more people are using it. The scary part is that people who are hospitalized because of this drug are telling authorities that they were sold krokodil under the impression that it was heroin. Now, everyone agrees that heroin is a terrible, nasty drug, but it does not cause the obvious external flesh-eating damage of krokodil, and honestly it's a little more difficult to tell that someone is a heroin addict. One might make the argument that a person might use heroin for recreation, but I don't think anyone would bring krokodil to a party. What the heck are people thinking?

    What other nasty drugs are out there?
    What motivates people to use these incredibly harmful substances?
    As a person who doesn't even like taking pain pills when they're prescribed for valid reasons, I don't understand drug culture. I really don't get it. I'd love to have someone explain this wacky stuff to me, though.
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    This is not a discussion on the politics behind drugs.
     
    genuinemommy, Oct 17, 2013
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  2. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    Siberia: Krokodil Tears | VICE United States

    It is cheap to make, and if it is used wrong or made wrong, then it has worse effects.

    If you have nothing to live for and no hope to improve, and drugs are easy to get and make you feel great, it is hard to change.

    I wonder if Heroin is getting harder to find because of Afghanistan? I would have thought that the US would have wiped out the poppy seeds to really mess with the drug users financing terrorism, but I don't know.
     
    ASU2003, Oct 17, 2013
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  3. DamnitAll

    DamnitAll Wait... what?

    Location:
    Central MD
    I remember the first time I heard about recreational use of Ketamine and its intended effects (K holes), and I remember wondering what in the hell could possibly have inspired anyone to experiment with a horse tranquilizer for recreational use. Granted, even as a college freshman I was still unbelievably naive for this to have left as much of a shocked impression on me as it did. But that's nowhere as disturbing as Krokodil, especially based on pictures I've see of what it does to its users.
     
    DamnitAll, Oct 17, 2013
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  4. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    Location:
    The land of drugs, violence, and 8 Mile Road
    I think when you get to the Krokodil phase, it becomes more of a mental illness than something for recreation. It gets to a point where you're not looking to have fun, you're desperately searching for the next high that will be different and more intense than the ones before, that your body has gotten used to. You can only do heroin and meth and every other scary drug for so long before the tolerance makes it not fun anymore. Krokodil is fucked up, but it probably gives them exactly what they're searching for the first few times.

    These kinds of drug addicts are scary people. It reminds me of when I first started hearing about bath salts and making meth with cough syrup. It's nothing that most rational minds would come up with. It also makes me think that a lot of these people, with their "creative problem solving" and tenacity, could be absolute geniuses if they directed that passion towards other things...
     
    GeneticShift, Oct 17, 2013
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  5. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    There have been several of the Krokodil cases near me. It sounds like terribly scary stuff. They have interviewed some of the users who thought they were getting heroin. My impression is that they were struggling to afford their addiction and just thought they were getting a cheap hit. One case was a mother and her two adult daughters, all three ended up in the hospital.

    Part of the problem is that the people who used it are mostly unwilling to say where they have gotten it from because they are afraid the dealers will come after them.

    I'm with GeneticShift, at the point that most of these people have gotten, it seems to be almost a mental illness or compulsion. I think it starts as fun, then becomes an escape from reality, then a crutch to deal with life, then a craving that they can't suppress. I don't think we are very good as a society when it comes to dealing with reality anymore.
     
    Borla, Oct 18, 2013
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  6. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    SO has on several occasions shown me pictures of Krokodil addicts. It's a horrendous fate to those who can't stop their urges.

    I don't have much of an opinion on this, other than if any of my relatives or close friends uses a drug like it to my knowledge, I'd be very tempted to take drastic action to make them stop.
     
    Remixer, Oct 18, 2013
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