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I have a dream... The MLK Estate and what is wrong with copyright

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by cynthetiq, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    One of my teammates works with the King Family from time to time. She has nothing but disdain for them because of the copyright choices they have made in the past and continue to make in the future.

    I'm in the business of helping protect and pay authors/illustrators for their intellectual property. I get the idea of this but in many ways why couldn't the family have donated it to the Library of Congress or to the Smithsonian? They would have preserved his legacy just as well as any other organization. I believe that the King family wanted money more than preserving his legacy.

    What do you think? How would you feel if one individual owned Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address?
     
  2. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

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    I agree its all about the money. I live close to atlanta and the kings are always in the news for something. I remember a year or two ago when the king center went bankrupt. Lots of people were mad at the family stating they had misused money, or were corrupt.

    My own option is that the family is afraid they will miss out on money. Dr. King and his wife are both dead now and there are only 2 or 3 ( I think) children left. I don't see why they don't let the state handle the king center. Maybe it would get more visitors if they changed a few things, and. Be able to spread dr kings legacy throughout the world instead of trying to keep it in the state of Georgia. If im not mistaken reverend joseph lowery said it was a tragedy when it was going to go bankrupt. (If I remember correctly). Seems to me as if its all about the money.
     
  3. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    If it's a source of income, it has monetary value. Why give it away for the public good? Isn't that socialism?

    But seriously: it's a source of income, and one cannot be expected to give that up. If the estate or owner is otherwise filthy rich, then maybe it would be an issue of greed. But still: you can't expect people to just give stuff away unless they're charitable in the first place.

    It's like any other art in a way. You can't expect people to donate their privately owned artifacts or paintings to museums and galleries instead of selling them. That's something the fabulously rich do. That's what makes them fabulous rather than filthy.
     
  4. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    No doubt, rumor has it that when the US soldiers were in the Philippines, they ate up all the head of cattle that was owned by the family. When the US Government returned (not MacArthur) to settle the bill after the Philippines was liberated from the Japanese, my great grandfather said something like, "There is no charge." There's something that is greater than money, in the culture I grew up within it's called "utang na loob". I can't define it very well, but it's more like a debt of the heart.

    Sometimes, it's as simple as that. One owes it to the community, not any single individual should benefit, but it should benefit everyone equally.
     
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  5. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Copyright is a messy business... no question. I predict that things are going to get a lot worse, regarding copyright enforcement, before they get better.

    Too many holders of copyright are fighting the future. Things have changed. Massively. And that change isn't finished happening. Things like SOPA are just the latest reaction to this change.

    The truth of the matter is that old business models are crumbling and new ones are being born all over the place. Those fighting for copyright to remain as it always has, are just delaying the inevitable.

    As for Dr. King's family... somethings are more important that a source of income. This might just be one of them.
     
  6. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    To quote Rage Against The Machine, "You don't have to burn the books, you just remove them." It is scary that EMI can 'own' this historic speech, and is willing to enforce it when used in historical documentaries. It is also a huge problem that it isn't on-line on YouTube or other websites.

    I'm sorry, but copyright should end with the authors death, or 20 years later if they are killed/assassinated. Only if someone is making money from rebroadcasting or using the performances in the public domain should royalties be paid.
     
  7. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    Why is it? How is it different from any other performance by an artist, poet, author? My friend was at Woodstock, he has some rare footage of Hendrix and other performers that no one else has, it's "never before seen." It's historic. It was game changing. Why is that different?
     
  8. greywolf

    greywolf Slightly Tilted

    Copyright was never intended to keep things out of the hands of the masses. It wasn't intended as a means of keeping an author's work as a future source of income for him. The content was supposed to do that in that people who wanted to know of his work would buy their own copy. Until the advent of mass/digital copying, this was evident with libraries, designed to help share works with people who could not afford their own copy.

    Now, copyright is seen as a financial/control instrument, and has been absolutely corrupted from the original intent. The King family dishonours this man by not trying to get copies of his dream in the hands of every person in the world, and restricting access to the images of his incredibly powerful speech as recorded. It's as much about control as it is about money; it is NOT about him, or his legacy.

    God help us when scientists start copyrighting their research so that you can't even use that to extend it without their permission. Oh wait... that's happening now, too, isn't it?
     
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

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    I herd on the radio this morning that mlk3 resigned from the king center. Bernice king will take over.