Drug question posting?

I want to ask, since I know some people who smoke pot, before I try it I want to know if there's a change of chemistry in the bud as it burns?

Is it okay to post that thread?

 

Pretty much any question is OK here.

Good question, I know that thc is metabolized differently depending on where it is absorbed, and of course there are obvious chemical changes from oxidation, but I don't think there is any other change.

Of course, using any drug entails some risk, please make sure you know what those are before you proceed.

 

That's my intention, I know the risks involved with THC, they're negligible as far as I can see.

I was mainly wondering what happens to any nitrogen compounds in weed, do they break down into ammonia? I've been around doing research a couple times (not yet smoking) and some types can smell like ammonia when they're all black and redoxed.

 

There aren't any nitrogenases present, so I would think it unlikely, although some growers use chemical treatments that bear health risks. A lot of it comes from south of the border, and you don't know what is used in production. That's one reason I see for legalization. If we do it for cucumbers, we should do it for this...

In fact, there are some direct risks from THC itself: it is an intoxicant and a psychoactive. Some users in studies conducted in Europe had convulsive episodes, but the incidence was quite low. It is not a high risk.

Realize also that there are incidental risks, however. Like any mood altering drug, THC affects your judgement. You should not drive or operate heavy equipment (I'm not aware of any potheads running about in forklifts, but you never know). There have been a number of traffic accidents where cannabis intoxication was a factor.

Depending on local laws, you may risk arrest and imprisonment.

I am not opposed to the use of cannabis, but I think you should be aware of ALL factors, and I think you may be overlooking some.

There is enough anecdotal evidence to support a study of medicinal benefit, but here in the US our FDA refuses to reschedule the drug so that controlled studies can be conducted.

 

Okay thanks. I found one article (seems a bit bias) that says that there is ammonia and hydrogen cyanide, but as you say, that sort of treatment of the plant is avoidable if you know what you're obtaining?

 

I don't know how you would know that, unless you grow it yourself.

 

I moved this to Titled Life because it didn't belong in Tilted Support. Let me know if there are questions, otherwise carry on.

 

There are a whole lot of things produced, including a few aromatic hydrocarbons, when you burn plant matter. If you smoke, it's a lot safer to vaporize, whether with an electric vape or with something like a Vapor Genie.

 

Yeah, it transforms from herb into awesomeness.

 

A lot of people don't realize that there's more tar in ganja than a typical cigarrette. Tar is a carcinogin. I doubt a vaporizor would reduce that.

Some prefer to eat it. We used to mix it in peanut butter, nuke it for a few seconds, and eat it on a ritz cracker. That was when i was burning 70,000 calories a day....

Interestingly enough, when TCH metabolizes through the liver (from digestion) it produces a different effect than when metabolized though the lungs, by inhaling.

At some point, I developed a reaction of extreme vertigo, so I no longer partake.

 

Yeah I saw that article, scientists in Canada found that. But then the question becomes, what strains produce the least tar for the most THC?

Yes but you end up with a little bit of carbon other than the resin once it's done.

 

Meh. You can cut the carbon a little by smoking a bong instead of pipes or doobs. Not altogether, but some. As for what's left...don't smoke every day, and don't smoke ridiculous amounts. You smoke high enough quality shit, you only need a few hits to get silly, anyway.

 

Thanks, that seems to be the consensus.

 

I don't think the peanut butter solution produces any tar...

 

If you're going to eat it, you might as well do it right. You take a quantity of weed, you heat it in clarified butter (ghee) over low heat for as long as it takes the butter to become thoroughly green and fragrant, or an hour or so, and then you use the budder to make either space cake/hash brownies or the base for a bechamel sauce, and make a rasta pasta casserole.

 

When I was younger I don't think I would have the patience for that, but I'd like to hear how it works out.

If I didn't have the vertigo problem, I might give it a try....

what's a bechamel sauce?

 

A vaporizer, if you do not want to prepare butter, is going to be the way to go. The vaporizer heats up your ground up product just enough to boil the oils holding the cannabanoids The shit that gets you high). Those oils turn into vapor, which you inhale. You get none of the tars or carcinogens associated with smoking because you never actually burn the product.

 

From a chemical point of view, low temperature oil extraction, or an alcoholic tincture, would produce the least in the way of dangerous combustion products. Maximising the surface area without heating is a good starting point. Grinding with a pestle and mortar probably heats the plant matter, and using a blender will certainly overheat the material, so probably chopping by hand would be good.

The warm clarified butter option is good, but any clean light oil will do - warming the plant matter in canola or ground-nut oil over a bain marie would work, and I suspect olive oil also works.

You could do the same thing with any high proof spirit too - you can do it warm or do it slow. I bet that if you poured away 1/4 of a bottle of everclear and filled it back up with shredded herb, then left it for a month well sealed in a warm place, and filtered it off you would have the base for a pretty mind bending cocktail...

 

Why would you really want to know the chemcial structure of smoking weed? Doesn't make any sense to me, you dry it, roll it, and light it up.
Then you relax and watch a good movie or paint whatever comes to mind.
Well really I think its been 25 years since my last toke! Remember it well.

 

Yeah, I've done a bain marie before for this. It absolutely does work. And I've used both soy oil and corn oil, when in a pinch. It's less tasty than clarified butter, but it will work.

Technically, it will work, but it will really taste like ass.

I always heard that alcohol inhibited THC absorption in the body-- not preventing it entirely, but interfering with it, so that drinking actually resulted in getting less stoned. But perhaps what I heard was erroneous. And I am certainly no scientist, to be able to figure out the truth of the matter.

Also, it seems to me that the way you're talking about would require an enormous amount of weed.... Maybe that's not a problem for some, but I usually can only afford a few grams at a time....