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Champions league

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Strange Famous, May 20, 2012.

  1. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

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    Probably the most negative and poorest quality performance to win it I've ever seen, but congrats to Chelsea. Not sure what I thought of terry in match kit celebrating with the lads who won it but at least he let lampard lift the cup. Di Matteo has to get the job now doesn't he?

    Also... If you do a google search on "the man for the big occasion" didier drogba is like the first 5 results. whatever you think of his theatrics sometimes: 9 cup finals, 9 goals.
     
  2. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    I must admit I know pretty much nothing about English soccer but the teams have the coolest names.
     
  3. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

    Location:
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    well. this was European football... Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

    Ashley Cole was just in a different class last night also. Plus Peter Cech, 6 penalties faced, went the right way 6 times, saved 3.
     
  4. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I still don't understand how soccer can be so universally popular everywhere BUT the US.

    I've tried watching a few matches and just can't get into it. But you'd think with it being so incredibly popular worldwide it would be somewhere above the 83rd most popular sport in the US.
     
  5. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I think it's because Americans only mostly like sports that are only played in America.

    I don't like Chelsea much, or at least I'm not fond of the current crop. However, it's nice to see a Brit team win again.
     
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  6. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Baseball, basketball, and hockey are three of the top four sports here. All of them have a pretty decent following around the world, albeit nowhere near soccer. Golf is up there too, both here and worldwide.

    I'm sure there is something to your argument, since baseball, basketball, and American football all three originated here. But there has to be something else.

    I think the low scoring has something to do with it too. Hockey is similar, but is also towards the lower end of the popular sports here.

    It's just odd to me that it is practically a religion in huge portions of the world and basically ignored here.
     
  7. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

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    I thought in terms of participation its 5th or 6th in the US though?

    Football isnt universally popular really... it isn't that big in India and Pakistan... but in South America, Europe and Africa I would guess it would be the 1st sport in most countries.

    I am pretty sure basketball was first played in Italy or somewhere like that also?
     
  8. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I was being sarcastic about it being 87th. But if you were to rank it by sports people here follow closely it would be behind football (NFL and NCAA), baseball, basketball (NBA and NCAA), hockey, golf, NASCAR, and probably a couple others. Participation numbers are higher because tons of kids play it from the ages of about 4-12, then it pretty much fizzles out older than that.


    Basketball was invented in the late 1800's by James Naismith in Springfield, MA, USA.
     
  9. highjinx

    highjinx "My phobia drowned while i was gettin' down."

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    maybe it's BECAUSE we're forced to play it as kids that it fizzles. once we turn 12, we're ushered into the other sports with higher scores and smaller fields, so maybe there's an underlying feeling of outgrowing soccer and it's big ass field and low scores. it kind of goes the way of handball, dodgeball, and tetherball i suppose.

    i know once i picked up a basketball i never looked back after having played soccer 10 years. and i start to drowse off when i watch it as a fan, but i can say that about baseball too.

    it's weird because when i went to amsterdam and it was soccer day it was quiet as a church and people were mesmerized by it.
     
  10. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

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    my interest in European football is almost as low as my desire to watch American NFL style football. Neither one holds my interest at all.
    I can say the same thing for baseball though, the only time I have truly enjoyed seeing games in that sport were the minor league team for the Giants that is/was based in Keizer Oregon. After being dragged to enough games at Candlestick Park, The Kingdome, and at least one in Texas when Nolan Ryan was pitching I found out they make good places for a nap though.
    Football teams do have much cooler names than teams in the United States, and the fan bases are rabidly loyal.

    I would watch a futball game anytime over cars covered in sponsor stickers making endless left turns though. Semi truck racing is sooooo much cooler to watch; I caught some of that on the satellite feed while floating around in the Mediterean and absolutely loved that sport. That added element of "you just might tip over" if you turn too sharp really adds something and those really haul not pulling any weight behind them.
     
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  11. highjinx

    highjinx "My phobia drowned while i was gettin' down."

    Location:
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    one of my favorite fighters who is also a master trash talker spoke on this last week.... he said, "you know what else chases itself around in a circle? a headless chicken. if you raced your neighbor today and won, what makes you think you wouldn't win in the same car a week from now?"


     
  12. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I'm not a huge NASCAR fan, but there is a ton more science in it than that. Tracks haven't different banking, different sharpness to the turns, various lengthed straightaways, weather is different, the engines are completely rebuilt before every race, a lot can go wrong over 400-600 miles, etc.



    Plus, it's way exciting when one of them finally accidently turns right. :eek:
     
  13. Alistair Eurotrash

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    Just round and round in a circle? How far? Couldn't they just do 2 laps and call it done? And I thought F1 was boring!

    Oh, and while I'm at it, what's basketball all about? It seems to be two teams taking turns to try and throw a ball in a basket and seeing who misses most.
     
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  14. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

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    Frankfurt, Germany
    Mate, I've asked myself the same question repeatedly when it comes to US sports.

    Compare Rugby with American Football. The way you guys see American Football as a manly and tough sport is so hilarious when it is such a pussy sport. Comparison here. :D

    ZombieSquirrel , back me up on this.

    EDIT: Also, AFL (local Australian version of Rugby) is apparently considered the second toughest sport out there, while traditional Rugby ranks 4th and American Football 6th.


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    And yes, Americans, we from the rest of the world fully realize you just love Made in America. Doesn't make your stuff any better, though. :D
     
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  15. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    I agree that NASCAR races are too long, that's why I don't follow the sport closely. Though the races seem much shorter when you are there in person. Part of the strategy is when to pit, whether to get four tires or just two, etc., so the distance of the race does play an important factor in the overall outcome of the race. Plus, part of being successful is building an engine that can survive an entire race putting out that kind of power while taking that constant beating.

    I don't know much about rugby, though I have a couple of buddies who played fairly competitively at the club level. But I've seen enough to know not to question how rough and tough it can be.
     
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  16. Alistair Eurotrash

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    Remixer , Aussie Rules is awesome!

     
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  17. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

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    I played rugby up to uni/club level, and I love NFL

    The main difference to me is the NFL is about power, and rugby is about strength and fitness.

    Rugby can break down into a real ugly mess at the breakdown if not reffed properly and it is a lot more technical. An elite NFL player is going to be a lot better pure athlete. Rugby is rougher in terms of getting stamped on, ear biting, sneaky punches in the scrum, etc... but you very rarely will see a big one on one full tilt hit in rugby (which is common place in NFL)

    I'd rather play rugby, but I do enjoy watching NFL.
     
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  18. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

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    I may be wrong here, but I was always under the impression that strength + fitness = power.
     
  19. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I have to admire the athleticism in NFL. There are some great athletes and I'm getting to understand the game better.

    I have to admit that it still irritates me how often they stop and I don't understand why they can't a) think on their feet without having a meeting and b) both attack AND defend. Too much stop/start for me.

    The last quarter can be tense and exciting, though.
     
  20. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

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    Ipswich, UK