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Camping with a Child

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by genuinemommy, May 13, 2013.

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Would you take a child camping?

  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    71.4%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Depends

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Do you have special memories of camping with your family or friends as a child?
    Have you ever been camping with children?
    How young is too young for tent camping?
    Would you ever consider taking an infant camping with you?
    What are your arguments for or against camping with "kids" of all ages (infant to college students)?
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    I can't seem to convince my husband that it's a healthy idea to take our daughter camping over a 3-day weekend in a couple of weeks. She will be almost 3 months old. She really enjoys laying outside, staring at trees, and listening to birds - a giant smile creeps across her face and she lifts up her arms as if she is trying to touch the sky, the birds, the trees - everything outdoors.

    Her needs and mobility are minimal at this point. Her clothes are tiny, her weight is still under 10 pounds. Her nutritional needs are basic. Her fecal waste is less offensive than our own. I really want to take her backpacking, but I'm willing to settle and just go with a drive-up campsite with a tent, air mattress, and our daughter's portable bassinet (snuggle nest). But it looks like even that is asking too much. My husband says he'd go for a cabin, but anything else would be too challenging with a child. But cabins seem so much more filthy to me than our own personal camping supplies - who knows what the last few people to stay there have done - and there's the risk of bed bugs in a cabin. The only significant convenience would be having a kitchen, but who wants to navigate an unfamiliar kitchen when they're getting away from it all? I'd much rather go raw or grill.

    Some of my botanist friends have been very encouraging, telling me success stories of camping with their children. But no one I know has dared to take anyone younger than 2 years. It seems that people just don't want to deal with diapers while camping. I really don't think it's an issue since I have changed diapers in all sorts of awkward places... especially if we're not primitive camping someplace where we'd need to carry out all of our waste, there would be a way to dispose of her diapers along with the rest of our waste (I doubt I'd be interested in hand-washing cloth diapers).

    Then there are the people who ask me why I'd bother taking her camping when she would be too young to remember anything of the experience. But I feel she would benefit from such an exercise in flexibility - and while she my not remember anything specific, it would be a precious memory to me.
     
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  2. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    I went camping a lot as a kid, starting when I was about 4 and my brother was about 2 1/2 but potty trained.

    I have been camping with my oldest and will be taking the middle one next month. I have set the minimum age of 5 to camp in my house.

    I would not take an infant camping. They are too young and the world is too unpredictable. I will go so far as to say that I think that taking a 3 month old backpacking is a needless risk. There are too many things that can go wrong - a fall, bad weather, animals - that could endanger her for a meaningless (for her) experience. I don't see a big problem with car camping (driving to the campsite) since there are more resources, but even packing in a couple of miles seems like a bad idea.

    Remember, you have to carry all of your gear, her gear and her. You've immediately added her body weight in gear alone - food, bed, clothing, extra clothing, etc. Add in that one person will have to carry an a smaller load of gear plus her over uneven ground and I see all sorts of falls that were not bad before becoming very bad for the adult trying protector her or her. Her diapers, as unoffensive as they may be, will be attractive enough to predators looking for an easy meal.

    Weather is something particularly troubling. My father almost lost his toes to frostbite in Florida. In May.

    Cold and wet babies are unhappy babies. I agree with your husband. Cabins actually have a lower chance of bedbugs because there will be few people through them, and they require hosts to feed from. As far as the cleanliness of them, I have to point out that the wilderness is often much less sanitary than a cabin - do a bacteria test of any water source for proof.
     
  3. fresnelly

    fresnelly Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Toronto
    We first took our son at 8 months as part of a fall road trip and it was fine. The only rough patch I remember was a really cold night in Yellowstone (fairly high altitude too) that we weren't fully prepared for and he was right miserable.

    Instead of sleeping bags we all shared a foam mattress with bedding and he lay on my wife's side for easy feeding. Obviously if co-sleeping isn't your thing then there are other solutions but it worked for us.

    In some ways it's easier with an infant than toddlers because you can contain them in a playpen or whatever and entertain them with toys and whatnot just as you would visiting Grandma or a friend's house.

    The only caveat I can think of is if baby is not a quiet sleeper and prone to late-night screaming fits, out of respect for your campsite neighbours, perhaps wait until she's older and sleeping through well enough.

    For your first trip I recommend a simple car-camping experience at a nearby state park to get the hang of it. Some of my fondest memories as a child myself are camping and I credit it for much of my appreciation of nature and the greater world we live in.

    I'll post a picture later.

    Oh and congratulations by the way!
     
  4. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Why not go backpacking?

    My in-laws have very fond memories of packing my husband around. They quit when they had two--that was too much. One of them would be responsible for carrying the kid and some light stuff while the other carried all the gear. They didn't do anything really lengthy--maybe 1-2 day trips with an easy hike in. They also did a lot of car camping. With light gear, it wouldn't be too hard to go for a short trek. I would definitely avoid anything that was more than a mile or two in case you had to get out.

    I camped as a kid. I was 18 mos. old the first time my parents took me out. From hearing all the talk, it sounds like I had a much more difficult time adjusting to camping than my husband. I was highly suspicious, and my mom couldn't sleep because I kept pulling her hair. Finally, I went and sat in my car seat and refused to get out of it, so my parents decided to go home. Later trips were much more successful, and I look back fondly on the camping adventures I can remember, starting when I was about 2.

    I think introducing kids to an activity like camping while they're young is a good thing. Whether or not they remember it isn't really important. Backpacking doesn't have to be some extreme adventure, and with proper precautions, I think you'd be fine. I agree that it can be a very rewarding experience, even for an infant. My husband still loves camping to this day. There's an adorable picture of him as an infant sitting in his bassinet by the fire while holding a stick with a marshmallow on the end over the fire. It looks like he's roasting it.

    I know when we have children we have some specific places in mind to take them.
     
  5. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    This time of year would be the best when the temperatures are good. In the Summer it is too hot and there are bugs.

    If she is sleeping through the night, I don't see a problem with it. The only thing is finding the right camping spot that is far enough away from everyone if she did start crying at 2am. That might mean hiking though. And I would think you would want to be close to the car if the weather gets too cold or too wet.

    Humans have been born and live in much worse conditions than first world camping conditions.
     
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  6. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    I took both of my daughters camping when they were small. A toddler is more problematic; there's no end to the trouble that a toddler can find in a campground. Like others have said, be kind to your neighbors. I'd also suggest making sure that you can bail out easily if the need arises.

    When faced with a choice of Disney World, a cruise, or backpacking, my daughters always picked backpacking. We've taken week long trips in Montana and Alaska ... their husbands had to take them to Disney World.
     
  7. I've taken my youngest son camping at Road America in Elkhart Lake many years ago. He was in middle school, so not really a child, more like a junior adult. It rained for nearly 24 hours straight and was one of the best experiences in my life. It would have been extremely difficult with a younger child.
     
  8. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    We've been camping with the boys for a few years now, though I don't think they are ready for hiking too far to a camp spot yet. We first went when my youngest was 4. He was mobile, day time toilet trained (though wearing nappies at night). Not that I'm getting the chance, as we aren't having any more children, but I don't think I'd be keen to go younger.

    On our most recent trip (3 weeks ago) the people next to us had a baby that howled (what seemed like) all night. Talking to them in the morning, they said they had camped with her quite a bit and this was out of character. They ended up cutting their stay short to take their little one to the doctor. IMO, part of my reason *not* to go would be the possibility of disturbing others if the little one gets upset/has trouble sleeping etc. Plus, most of the places we would go camping *don't* have any rubbish collection, so we would be carrying the dirty nappies out again - not too keen on that ;)

    Still, I don't see any major reason not to car camp, especially if there is an easy bail out option if required.
     
  9. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    So much great advice!
    the_jazz thank you for laying out many risks and helping me to better understand my husband's perspective.
    fresnelly, we do co-sleep, so your experience is very applicable. Sounds like the setup you used with your son will work out similarly well for us. Thank you for your expert tips.
    snowy thank you for sharing your husband's and your own early camping experiences. I was really hoping to get a positive response from you, but this exceeds my expectations. I love the marshmallow-roasting baby imagery.
    ASU2003 Yes, this time of year would be nice. Avoiding bugs while camping is huge for my husband, since he's a mosquito magnet.
    Stan, your daughters sound awesome! I hope my daughter develops a deep love for the outdoors like yours.
    Craven Morehead, that's a lot of rain! I can't picture myself having a good time with that particular experience. I'll definitely make sure we have good weather before we take off.
    spindles, she wakes up once in the night, at about 2:30am. She doesn't cry in the night, so being a nuisance to neighbors is less of a concern. She does get fussy sometimes in the early evenings around dinnertime, and she cries when I change her clothing (pulling a shirt over her head is always cause for tears) but my car is pretty well sound-proofed against her wimpy voice, so I figure if we're car camping we can just go in the car when she's fussy. If we hike-in someplace we wouldn't have to worry so much about disturbing neighbors.
     
  10. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Car camping sounds like a good compromise for the first trip.
    My wife and I are experienced campers. We have not taken our little ones, 5 and 3, yet but it might happen this summer.
    GG if you go I hope you report back on your experience. I would love to hear about it.
     
  11. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks fflowley. I'll definitely let you know how it goes, however we decide to enjoy the outdoors. So far we've just taken littlegirly out on paved trails in her jogging stroller.
     
  12. Freetofly

    Freetofly Diving deep into the abyss

    I always went camping as a kid and with my kids when they were babies to in their teens.

    The husband never came along.

    The kids loved going and still talk about some of the places I took them. The campfires were the best. Did a lot of hiking and fishing.

    Yes good memories!
     
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  13. amonkie

    amonkie Very Tilted

    Location:
    Windy City
    My parents took me out camping as early as 6-8 months. They were car camping though, and were able to pack up and call it quits if weather conditions or something else came up.

    I know for me personally I would never be comfortable with backpacking with an infant simply because of my own balance issues due to my ear/nerve damage. Just carrying a pack is not recommended for me, so I can't leave my husband to carry everything PLUS a baby.

    I would possibly suggest trying longer day trips and seeing what your experience is like.
     
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  14. Cubby

    Cubby Vertical

    I'm heading out on a father-son camping trip with a bunch of Dad's from my hockey team. It will possibly be the first time (unless we go before July) that my three sons have camped and they and I am looking forward to it. Two nights but nice and close to home (only about 45 mins away) in case things don't work out too well.
     
  15. Fraeia

    Fraeia Getting Tilted

    Location:
    Newfoundland
    I don't have kids (yet) myself, so I might not be a very good source for advice, but I think it's awesome that you want to go camping with your daughter, even at such a young age. As long as you're realistic and really plan things out, I totally think it could be a great experience for her. I mean, we talk so much about what a child can feel when they're still in the womb - about how music and our voices can affect them... I think a weekend out in the wilderness could be a positive experience at any age.

    I once saw a documentary where a couple goes on a canoeing trip across Canada, and they take their <2 year old with them. The kid was used to going places with his parents, and he behaved so well along the trip, it was amazing how many skills this kid had from just getting out there and experiencing stuff. It was inspirational.