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NFL Rule Changes - Endzone Celebrations
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?ID=160533
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That's JUST what we need... more team-shattering egos like Owens I'm also happy about the down by contact rule revision. Any NFL fan knows that it is VERY frustrating when you clearly witness a fumble but the runner was "down by contact"... I'm glad it's reviewable now.
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Some end zone celebrations were fun... anyone old enough to remember Ickey woods and the Ickey Shuffle-- it was entertainment... The fun bunch from redskins - -the group high five was also a little fun.. (and this comes from someone who dislikes the redskins almost as much as I dislike the cowboys )
The packers habit of jumping into the stands is fun... doesn't really hurt anything... There was a quote a few years ago - when they first started cracking down in the celerations (and Ickey was relagated to doing thei shuffle on the sidelines) is to ACT LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE... I'd agree that the monumental egos of some of today's players it's just unsportsmanlike conduct and it has no place in the game...
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There's a difference between a tradition like the Lambeau Leap, and high fiving, and doing a dance...
and pulling a sharpie out of your sock and autographing the ball, or pulling a cell phone out of the upright pads, or using all kinds of props in your celebration. You want to impress the fans, your coach, and your team? Go catch another fucking touchdown and stop looking like a moron.
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Some of the celebrations were over the top, but I think that all the ones that you mentioned, Mal, are still legal under the new rule, although I'm not 100% sure about Green Bay. Most of Owen's antics would be out, although I'm not sure about spiking the ball at midfield when he played for the 49ers.
It was interesting watching the tournament games last weekend with a friend of mine who's a huge critic of what he calls "unnecessary celebration". He hates Chad Johnson for that reason, and he's a huge Bengals fan (I know, doesn't make sense to me either but whatever). So George Mason wins, and their players went absolutely nuts, running up and down the court and jumping up on tables. He started off with his usual diatribe about "acting like you've been there before" when my wife pointed out that none of the George Mason guys have ever "been there before" and that this was unprecidented. God, I love being married to a sports fan sometimes (except during baseball season, but that's because she's a dirty South Sider).
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Eh, so what if they celebrate? I liked the suggestion about having a celebration clock. Give the guy 7 seconds to do what they want and then flag him. It's fun. Football doesn't just have to be about catching passes.. let the guys have fun or they won't want to play.
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I didn't say they <i>wouldn't</i> play. I said they wouldn't <b>WANT</b> to play. There's a difference there. What's so bad about an endzone celebration?? Who cares if a player is cocky or talks shit? It's part of the game. Deal with it.
I hate T.O. as much as the next guy but I actually enjoy some of his endzone antics. They bring a smile to the game. Hell they even make the fans *more* into it. You hate T.O. more after he ran to the middle of the star at Dallas, now there's a story line developing on how the fans will react with him there. Will he run to the star now in a Dallas uniform?? I think (while sometimes overdone) that a little endzone celebration isn't that bad of a thing. Hell it gives ya time to drink more beer. |
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An end zone celebration is great when it simply involves a spontaneous display of enthusiasm, but when props get involved and there is clear evidence that it was pre-meditated it is about as interesting as a WWF ringside stunt IMO. These guys can find some other way to display their egos that don’t involve spending time in front of the camera on Sunday afternoon.
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I personally HATE the end zone celebrations that have developed in the past few years. They're absolutely un-necessary, and send the absolute wrong message to the kids who are playing football these days.
I've thought for about three years that this kind of crackdown should happen - it took the celebrations getting out of hand, and players BRAGGING about their next celebrations (a la Chad Johnson) for the league to do something about it. One thing I worry a bit about, though...the league's rules would prevent a player dropping to a knee and offering thanks to God. Although I don't LIKE that kind of display, I wonder how long it will take before a player challenges the rule as being discriminatory against his religion.
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About these celebrations sending the wrong messages to kids... I disagree. I've coached kids and if you don't want them to do that crap you tell them that. Unlike spoiled professionals, they usually listen I've found.
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I grew up a Packer fan, and in my opinion the Lambeau Leap is the best celebration in all of sports; an excited player jumps into the stands to be congratulated by all of his teams fans. Hell, the leap was started by Leroy Butler, a Packer fan favorite for over a decade, after he scored one of his 3 career touchdowns (in a game that also secured the Packers a playoff spot). He was just so excited he leaped into the stands. Ever since that game it's been a tradition at Lambeau to jump into the stands after you score a touchdown, and no matter who you are, whether you're paid $10 million or $300,000, the fans will reach down and pull you up.
According to these rule changes a leap would be a 15-yard penalty. That is, to put it in simple terms, BULLSHIT. Heres to hoping at every home game the Pack kickoff at the 15 yard line a few times a game next year.
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Let me preface this with the full disclosure that I'm a Bears fan and therefore hate just about everything there is to hate about the Packers. That said, I think that the leap is one of the coolest things there is. It leds to the college football atmosphere that Lambeau has, something that's sorely lacking around most of the rest of the league.
God, I've got to go take a shower now that I've said something nice about the damn Packers. I feel dirty and used. ![]()
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I can't recall where I read it, but I thought I saw somewhere that the Lambeau Leap wouldn't be an excessive celebration. Remember they tried this a few years back and it didn't curb the spiking, dunking and whatnot that most people don't see as a problem.
Edit: According to this article from nfl.com, leaps are excluded. Quote:
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