Veiws on Inter-racial relationships
 

Do you think that white people should only date white people? and black only black?

What about White girl/black guy vs. white guy/black girl

I have a kinda twisted view on this.. I'm not predijuice at all.. but.. I when I see a black man walking down the street with a white girl (obviously in a relationship) it just does'nt seem right to me. However if it's a White guy with a black girl, it doesent bother me so much. What do you all think?

I think humanity should be beyond such questions... but sadly we aren't.

This is a complete non-issue.

I'm still amazed at how these issues come up. Really, we're all human ..so that kinda nullifies the color of a person's skin.

Tres, just out of curiousity, what bothers you about a black man/white woman relationship?

I have a problem with some guys and some girls too.

When any guy is with a really good-looking girl - that upsets me, bigtime. Why him and not me??? :)

Color doesnt come into it though.

It's probably the view that black men are below white people and shouldn't be allowed to date white women. But white men can do what they want and date who they want. This is purely racial thought and someone having a problem with inter-racial dating probably has a past with their family on this issue. Either that they voice their opinion to their kids that they didn't approve of it, something to that extent. Anyways, my view is that any human being can date any human being (being of legal age of course) because we all are the same species. Anyone who has a problem with this issue needs serious counseling in todays world; because simply put by "the_marq": this is a complete non-issue.

Let me re-iterate.. its not a prejidicial issue.. I have many close friends that are races other than mine..I'm not quite sure exactly what it is. I don't think lesser of them, or think they should be bashed in anyway.. but..hmm..hard to explain, kinda why I wanted other peoples input.. IMO people are still allowed to date whom even they want.. I don't think white people can do any less than or more than a black person.. I don't think less of the couple, if they are happy then great.. It's not my business, I was hoping to get inside as to why I feel this way. My dad is black and my mom is white.. so. believe me, I don't wanna get bashed for being Prejidice because I'm not..

Race relationships, as well as gender same relationships, is a non issue for me, a person should be with whomever makes them happy.

People with a more varied racial background have an interesting appearance. So, I'm all in favour of inter-racial relationships, so when I'm old, there will be more interesting young'uns to look at!

I'm just greedy that way. =)

But seriously, this really isn't an issue for me. People who consider something as shallow as skin colour to be actually important are ridiculous.

well.. aparently I'm just f**ked up.. and Should not have posted a thread for this.. so.. i'm gonna chalk this up to me being a retard..and let it go..with my apologies...

Each and every last one of us has some prejidice inside. All of us. It's human nature. But don't worry, I sure won't bash anyone for it.

Why do you feel this way? Who knows. Inter racial relationships don't bother me. My college roommate dated a black guy for 4 years, then dated another for awhile. Did I think it was weird? Nah, I didn't care.

I'm not bothered when I see inter racial couples. I think it's more common to see a black man and white woman. That's what I've seen more of. There have been times when I'll see the opposite and do a little mental "ah, cool" or some such, and go about my way.


Like others said, this should be a non issue. It's a non issue for me, and it should be for others. But I don't think that it'll ever go away.

I don't think it's an issue, but I do find it interesting that some people instantly see an interratial couple as more sexual than emotion. When someone sees a white guy with an Asian girl, for example, they think he's got a thing for Asian women, or if they see a black man with a white woman, they think she's got some preference for black men. I've seen and heard this time and time again, and it's usually with a white male/Asian female couple (as discussed in that previous, very interesting thread), where the male is instantly thought to have some fetish. That doesn't happen with white male/white female couple, sexuality doesn't seem to come into it as readily. This is just what I've seen and heard.

nobody is bashing you. I wasn't bashing you. I was just curious if there was a certain reason you felt that way. After reading your later posts I see that you're unsure why you feel this way. As Averett said everyone has some sort of prejudice in them. I'm not saying you are by any means. I wonder if you feel that way because you've had issues with your own family or if you're just greedy and you want a chance at the girl :D Either way, if you figure it out let us know

I find it interesting that couple of mixed *colour* from the same country, hell, probably even the same town, are considered a "mixed race" in this day and age.

my marriage i would consider MIXED RACE because i am from the UK and i married a girl from Panama, therefore, yes, it was the coming together of two different races of people, two different cultures.

but i would say now that most blacks in the US are just as much "American" as a white person, so I dont see where the race distinction comes in????

As long as they are consenting adults, I'm not sure why I'd care.

I have extreme prejudice against stupid people, I admit it, I dont care what color they are

I believe that race relations are improving with each successive generation. In time, it will go away. By the time that your grandchildren are ready to date...it truly will be a "non-issue".

This actually makes me smile. I love seeing interracial couples. It just goes to show that when people love each other they are able to overcome some of the boundaries that are set by society.

Just my opinion. :thumbsup:

Here's hoping :)

Well, think about it. My mother grew up in Florida in the 50s. Back when segregation was the norm. My father brought her back to Pennsylvania to live after they married. She was horrified the first time a "negro" sat down at the same lunch counter in J.J. Newberry's. Was my mother racist? You better believe it! She easily could've raised me to be a little Ku Kluxer. But, to her credit, she did not. My perception of race is a world apart from hers. Given enough time, and understanding, I fully believe that we, as a species, will achieve racial harmony. Maybe not in my lifetime...but I'd say within another 3 generations or so.

Oh I agree with you that things have gotten much better than where we used to be. But I don't know that we'll ever view eachother as equal. Humans are always trying to see the differences in eachother. I think it's part of our genetic make up. I just hope that we can some day see our differences but realize that they don't mean a damn thing.

I think I understand where Tres is coming from. I admit it, when I see a black man and a white woman, a little voice asks "is he dating her because he likes her, or does he have just want to check off the white box? Does he not date black women at all, or is this a "real" relationship?" Of course, this is none of my business and I will not know the answer, so I shrug it off and go about my business. But I am interested in the motivations about why people get together. Are they shallow or deep, or somewhere in between? I guess the same thing could be said about only dating pretty girls. Whats wrong with girls who are only average in looks? What caused the initial attraction? Appearance has a lot to do with it.

We're all the same color under the sheets at night.

Been there, done it (white guy/black girl), would do it again - hypothetically since I'm married now. I have known alot of interracial couples, some were doing it to get the notch in the bedpost then never again, some had a fetish or obsession with a certain race (white girl who was convinced black guys were better in the sack, black guy who would only date Asian chicks, etc), but most ended up that way because they liked a person who happened to be a different race from them.

I don't see what the issue is. One human falls in love with another human, they get into a relationship and maybe create more humans. Does it matter what skincolour you have or where you are from?? Not to me.

Don't feel bad tres I'm pretty sure i would be disowned at least behind my back if I was in an interracial relationship. I know my dad would have a cow, but I think he would get over it. The extended family would hold it against me.

But, I find all women attracitve and who knows where I'll end up. It just pains me to see my family this way.

That's becaue the cultures in America are still divergent enough that it's very evident and is a mixed race. The average black person will have different key experiences growing up than a white person will and an Asian or Latino person will have even more differences. I'm black and I'm dating a girl from Mexico and in the past have dated an Asian girl. We are close enough culturally that we were compatible for dating but at the same time there were things about their cultures they exposed me to that are most assuredly different from what I was considering the norm and I did the same for them.

And frankly I don't think it should be an issue concerning whether or not a couple should be together however it IS important as many people are sexually attracted to different things. One of my friends(black)dates mostly blondes. Now it's not like he descriminates against those of other races but when initital attraction sets in and he's scoping somebody from across the room the blonde will catch his eye first. Just as I've never dated a white girl because while I can appreciate their beauty I typically won't go for their looks as quickly as a black female. Just what I'm attracted to. Everybody has little things here and there that they like or find attractive and I don't think it's a fetish either.

As much as I want to believe that in the future the human race we will be beyond this kind of crap, it hasn't happened yet.

We've replaced one unfounded prejudice with another unfounded prejudice. So, while we might be past the whole color/race 'thing' in three generations, some other arbitrary difference will just take it's place.

I have high hopes, however, that maybe this won't be the case.

I will make one statement..

some of the most astoundingly attractive people I know are the result of a mixed 'race' union. It goes to prove that life encourages the mixture of all it's compatible entities.

I'm going to have to go with FatherTed on this one. Actually though, I think that it's more if I see an ugly dude with a good looking girl it upsets me.... It's like, I want a chick like that, and I'm not even ugly.

95% of you are lying, giving conditioned responses.

What I don't understand is why? If you aren't going to be truthful about it, why post? He was looking for some honest opinions, not cookie cutter scripted responses.

I think different races are what makes the world go round. And no, I do not like to see different races mating.

You're talking out of your butt. Just because people are not so narrow-minded as to be racially biased, does not make them liars. My view is different than yours so I'm lying? Very thoughtfull.

It's bold of you to accuse the previous posters like that. No matter how much the idea bugs you, it doesn't necessarily bother other people.

I dated a girl out of my race (whatever my race is), and it's not only OK, it's interesting because you get to learn about your partner's background and culture.

It's rare that I see a black man with a woman of another race where I live, but when I do they get a silent applause in my mind for saying "nanny-nanny-boo-boo" to the taboo.

yuck...that's all i really have to say. i've dated inter-racially before, and it was the least of the issues involved in each of the relationships. getting looks for it was stressful, and i really learned to appriciate what white priviledge is, and how quickly it can be revoked.

Nope sorry, got 5 years worth of pictures to prove it too. After the initial OMG its a white guy/black girl thing from the families, which they never really got over but just learned to live with it (actually with her family the issue was more I was from a poor family than I was white, they were very wealthy and I guess thought I was a gold digger), we were like any other couple.

Well that's too bad for you, because even here in the deep south you see more and more of it

ok here's the deal.. I post what I feel and what I think..if it's cookie cutter to you then don't eat the cookies.. just ignore it. I have no problem with interracial relationships...that's why I posted what I did. The only thing I see worth while in your post is that you were honest in your final statement. Seriously though, don't call people out (95%) when you don't know them or how they feel.

unless there are people in this thread that you actually know in real life, I dont think you have any right to speak for any of us

I'm a white girl dating a mexican guy. Do I get uncomfortable when people stare or stutter when we confirm that yes, we are together? Not after the first couple of times. I was raised that whites date whites, blacks date blacks, mexicans date mexicans. I always thought it was a stupid thing. I constantly got the 'you marry who you date' spiel, and was told that dating out of my race wasn't supposed to happen.

You know what? I am madly, deeply, truly, wholeheartedly in love.

I also agree with what was said about learning about the background too. He was born in Oaxaca, his parents grew up in different cities in Mexico, and I've learned so much and been exposed to so many interesting new things. It's wonderful what people have to share when you look at them as PEOPLE, not as a COLOR.

The only thing that bugs me is that some people insist on racially categorizing everybody, as if everybody had to be pigeonholed into a little box based on their skin color and a few other superficialities.

My daughter goes to a school on whose website it says that 90% of the students are "black" and 10% are "hispanic". When I visit her school what I see is that about 90% of the kids are clearly of mixed ancestry. There is no way in hell that I would presume to guess which pigeon hole to stick them in. As far as I'm concerned, they're all human beings.

I've lived in racially mixed neighborhoods all my life (Hawaii, Vancouver, Miami). In Hawaii it is not uncommon for a high school kid to have four grandparents from four different continents. On my block here in a Miami suburb there are 5 different languages spoken by parents (english, spanish, creole, french, german, chinese), but all the kids speak english, watch the same TV shows, go to the same school, play on the same sports teams, play in the same bands, want the same stuff for christmas. One of my daughter's best friends has a Chinese mother and a Haitian father.

The whole concept of "race" in the U.S. is becoming increasingly arbitrary. Where do you draw the line?

I'd rather not draw it at all. For me it's totally a non-issue.

I agree up to a point. I think that most of white America is beyond that. Black America is getting close (Yes, I feel that black America still has distrust, both warranted and unwarranted, towards white America and that in turn leads to racism).

However, I feel that classism has replaced racism in America. I believe that more people would have a problem with a poor, ghetto raised black man dating a white woman than a middle class, well educated black man dating a white women.

im very sorry about the confusion, it was late and i thought we were talking about same sex marriage.


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Inter-racial? As in Human Race with another Race? I'm not okay with that.

Oh, you mean white and black. You're a fool. You know that, right?

A very good white friend of mine went out with a black girl for a while and he said to me that on several occasions he witnessed abuse from blacks towards the girl. Stuff like "sell out" being uttered while passing by just loud enough to be heard.

It always seems the ones to jump on the "racist" bandwagon are the worst perpetrators.

OOo, an actual good subject!

If mankind managed to uplift dolphins, apes, or other life forms to near or at human intelligence, would you be ok with sexual activity occuring accross species bounderies?

How about human-computer sexual activity?

We already have that. It's called AOL Instant Messenger. ;)

From what I've read posters say in other threads that deal with this topic it seems like a lot of people on TFP have beef with people of African descent and are very much against dating black people.

Sad to say, but of all poeple on this planet black people are the most hated and despised. Racism still lingers and is very much institutionalized to this day albeit in a less blatant way than in the 1950s.

(oops wrong button - TOK)

I want examples.

I haven't been around as long as you have but I haven't seen this and I'm fairly keen at picking up on that. Usually from what I've seen it isn't really all that common for "people of African descent" to be the subject of a topic. Then again I don't go into the Political forum where that MIGHT come up.

I dont have anything against them but I think it takes more understanding than a white on white realtion. Ive seen different race couples seriously lock horns on how to raise their children.

*Applause*

You have quite the balls to make a statement out of the blue like that with no evidence to back it up. I'm part of the most despised group of people on the planet? Wow, I don't know whether to feel honored to receive so much attention or feel sorry that there are still humans on this rock that judge people by their skin pigmentation. Make me really wonder about the future of our species if we can't get along with each other.

Anyway, to answer the original posters question, date whoever the fuck you want to date. I don't give a shit. I'm black and my wife if half eskimo/white and we've been married for almost 9 years now. Do we still get funny looks from blacks and whites after all this time who have no clue as to who we are or what we're about? You bet. Do I feel sorry for them that they live such shallowed lives? You bet. In the year 2005 you would think that this is a non issue with consenting adults. But unfortunately, that's not the case. This is still an issue with many people due to their upbringing. To everyone who thinks that this should be a non-issue, I'm with you. I wish that were the case as well. Maybe one day it will be. As long as people keep bringing up their kids with their one sided beliefs, then this will continue. No matter if it's the year 2100 or 2200. Until then, what can we do? Try to educate people that we're all the same species, bleed the same blood and feel the same pain.

Maybe one day we'll see ourselves for what we really are. Human.

The "mixed race" thing used to bother me quite a bit...then it happened and when I held that first baby grand daughter, nothing mattered anymore...she was perfect and beautiful...

the second one was just as great, also...

now I am proud to introduce him as my son-in-law...

To be fair that's just as common to see in couples of mixed religion,mixed backgrounds(privledged versus blue collar),mixed nationality but same race. Heck I've seen most of the conflicts concerning child rearing come from couples with the exact same backgrounds so that's not really an interacial couple thing.

That is Beautiful.


Thank you.

The only issue that should and can be argued in this discussion is that of culture. I once heard a comment in the movie Thirteen that stated this "If everyone dated someone outside of their race..there would be no more racism" Is that true? Possibly but there would also be no more individual cultures. Our cultures are our own and should be treasured. As hard as it will be for some to admitt it when people date outside the race and marry outside the race a lot of the time 1 submitts to the others culture and lifestyle and disregards their own. This is a fact because I've seen it happen. It is a bad thing but the coming together of 2 people who are different but yet not different is a good thing. So you have to take in the good with the bad. I guess one might ask if the good outweighs the bad but in truth love is color blind and love conquers all.

To be completely honest I am VERY proud to say I am a Mexican American. I have people who are my own people who have come up from and through struggles unique to my ethnicity. I wouldn't have that if my race kept mixing with every other race over and over and over until wait...what are we now? Well we're human and thats all you can say now..Does that kind of suck that my culture and people faded away over time? Yes but what I just said "We're human and thats all you can say now" is actually pretty fuckin nice too. You may call me torn on this issue.

In truth I do have preferences in my taste of the opposite sex, I'm partial to brunettes and I favor latina's but does that mean I will always date one or marry one? No. Because we date our "types" and search them up for porn, and other such trivial things but we marry because of a connection. We love because of a connection and a sharing of that love and I don't always find that within my own race. Not every woman of my color has everything I'm looking for in a woman. So I don't know who I'll settle down with and I don't think anyone does.

Should it be an issue? Probably not but also understand there are reasons why it's an issue besides blatant predjudice and racism.

Also my sister married a white man. He's a great guy I love him like a brother and my neice? She's beautiful :D

Asta!! :thumbsup:

Inter-racial relationships, I just don't get why people have a problem with this. I still see people's heads turn when an inter-racial couple walks through the door. Who cares! If they love eachother then so be it. Clive Barker said it best, doesn't matter what color your skin is, when you open us up we're all red.

I can speak from my personal experience.

Interracial never bothered me. I was very non-prejudice until I lived in Indianapolis in 1994-95. There I met quite a few interracial couples (99% black male/white female) and they were around my age or younger (27).

The thing that made me really take notice and become racist on this issue, was the fact that in almost all the cases I saw the black man was with a white woman as a social statement and the white woman was either into serious drugs or a true bitch.

I know this experience tainted me for a long time. Now, when I see couples I don't care any more but at that point and what I saw, did affect my opinion for a long time.

I will say, these women that say they will only date a black man bothers me because that in and of itself is racist. It's like me saying I will only date white women (I have dated some extremely nice black women and have no problem falling in love with one.)

I have just found if you love someone the color of their skin, their religion, their ethnic background doesn't matter. But there was a time when my experiences did allow me to have a negative opinion on this topic.

I'd like examples as well. I can't really recall any kind of "beef" anyone on these boards has with black people... or asian, hispanic, albino, whatever. I have also seen a few other threads on this subject matter, and the overwhelming tone is support and understanding. If there are one or two less accepting folk who decide to drop their intolerant $0.02 into the thread, you will find their comments are rather quickly dispatched.

I'm big on allowing people to do whatever they want. I see no problem at all with interracial relationships. It really shouldn't be an issue as many have said before, but there will always be people that are bothered by it unfortunately.

I'm in a mixed race relationship; I'm white and she's Asian, and nobody's ever made an issue of it.

I (white) have dated basically every race in the human species. Everything from Eskimo to Combodian to African. The only time I've been given looks is when I was dating a black girl or a latina girl, and it was always from men of her race. I just chalked it up to racial superiorism (why is she with that honkey?). If they were good enough for her, she'd be dating them.

I'm in a white girl/black-white guy relationship. Err.. I mean he's half white and black.. I'm not with 2 men. @.x
Anyway, why should this even cross people's minds anymore? I actually thought people were over this sorta stuff. It's pointless really. If you're not attracted to other races, then so be it.