I don't think it's the medical profession that's doing the hoodwinking... people hoodwink themselves...

Ever read the pamphlet that comes with the prescriptions? Most people don't. Pages of contraindications... It's not exciting reading, but it should be required or no prescription. The majority of the human race only hears what they want to hear... (oooh, i'm on birth control I can't get pregnant, but doesn't want to know that there's responsibilities there as well, like taking the pill at a specific time every day... and watching other drug interactions...

It's frightening to me that anyone would put something into their body and not check out thoroughly what the side effects could be.

Yep, that was the first thing ktspktsp and I did when I first got on BC. We read all the fine print... pretty scary stuff, right there for everyone to see. Hence our doubling up with condoms. :D

You're right though, Mal... people do hoodwink themselves... but then again, if the companies really cared about people's fertility outcomes, they'd make that info bigger than 2-point font. :rolleyes: I think it is error on both the part of the producer and the consumer.

I'm extremely detail oriented (aka: OCD). So yeah, I paid attention to all the fine print and was very careful about when I took my pills. It wasn't really the BC pills we had trouble with, though. (I think they're the only method of BC on which I didn't carry a child to term, and were the method responsible for the most years pregnant-less. If I had to choose BC again that's what I'd go with...) I can believe the condoms were personal error, but what about the Norplant? I specifically asked my doctor if I had to use any back-up methods. His answer was "No, definitely not. You're covered for five years." Tell that to my redheaded 6yr old. :D

Wow. He didn't even give you a percentage on how many people have gotten pregnant on Norplant? Damn doctors. Seriously, some of them are wayyy too confident in medicine... it's an injustice, I think.

Do people still use Norplant now, btw?? I heard the took it off the market, but maybe I am wrong.

No, he didn't say anything else. Of course, most of the time I'm dealing with military doctors. They have different rules and I'm not allowed to sue them. I'm not sure if Norplant is still in use or not. Maybe they took it off the market because it doesn't work effectively enough to make the process worthwhile?? :hmm: Having them put _in_ wasn't so bad, but having them taken back out... I thought Mojo was going to pass out and he's not normally squeamish. :lol: He compared it accurately to a science fiction movie and refused to watch after they fished out the first rod.

Say my female counterpart is on said pill and I don't cum inside her. Is there still a chance that she can get pregnant from, say, pre-cum?

There's always a chance ... even if you use a condom AND she's on the pill. Nothing is fool-proof.

damn, that is some bad luck.

well, hopefully you consider it good luck by this point.

Just thought this piece was fitting here....heh

Blessed be the blade is keen
The hands that hold it true
For in my mind I play the scene
Of what he means to do
A little snip is all it takes
Some thread to make it stick
My little swimmers now have brakes
And still I have my Dick

So now would be a bad time to tell you all about my friend that got a tubal 16 years ago and is now expecting a child in october?(No joke)

at least it was not the husband who got the snip and she is expecting...

I’ve read some where before that some times the vas deferens can reconnect after the snip, but I’ve not heard of a fallopian tube doing it. Maybe the doc then went on to manage a jiffy lube ;)
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105580

Mojodragon is a brave man to say such a thing here. My sister and I were both unintended. Smile, my mom chose life twice!

I had the same thought myself and as a result I didn't have sex until I was an adult and now only have sex with my fiance :)

The problem is compounded if you don't accept abortion as a way out, which I don't. I have planned my entire life around the possibility of unintended motherhood, even though I am REALLY REALLY HOPING never to have kids at all.

If more people could do math, maybe there would be fewer surprise pregnancies!

>>>Now, mathematically, we have a 1/216 chance of throwing three 6's. >>>

I throw condoms on my dick. You can too. Works 100% for me. (^: Dice sounds like gambling.

Jonathan

PS Have you done a background check on the doctors who did the norplant ?

The human body is astounding!
It has an undeniable ability to heal itself.... its done it to me and made me VERY angry. I liked being sterile and then one day my old "friend" came back to visit. Oh, I was LIVID! However, someone "upstairs" seems to have plans for me... granted I do not in any way agree with these plans mind you.
Alas, who am I to deny the diety of choice their fun and games?