Why is it girls are ho's?¿? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

dumbnutofak · 03-16-2004, 11:59 AM

Ok, I was jabbin up a storm on yahoo chat last night... VERY BORED and a chick asked two questions...

Why is it a guy can sleep with lotta chicks and noone cares, but if a girl does it with a lotta guys she's a ho?

and

Why is it when we're young we like one person but as we get older we want more?

I just told her people a judgemental and hypocritical.

I was kinda curious on what everyone thinkss about these 2 questions...

Also mind you the girl was 17 and im 19 so not like I have too much wisdom like some of you out there

RoboBlaster · 03-16-2004, 12:18 PM

The reason we like different types of people as we get older is that we ourselves become different people as we get older.

motdakasha · 03-16-2004, 03:54 PM

The reason for the first question is the Madonna-Whore complex (or Madonna-Whore dichtomy).

VF19 · 03-16-2004, 04:24 PM

because (hot) woman can get sex anytime they want, they just go up to some guy and tell him and they do it.
but if it was a guy going up to a girl its sexual harassment and all that shit.
so a guy who sleeps around is viewed as cool and a girl who does is viewed as wierd.

Lunchbox7 · 03-16-2004, 05:00 PM

I like your explaination VF19. If as guy does it then its an acccomplishment thus respect comes from it. But it is no big deal for a girl so she doesnt recieve any positive reinforcement. But a girl gets payed out for it out of jelousy from guys that she can get it whenever she wants while a guy cant.

Himbo · 03-16-2004, 05:49 PM

I suppose its a double standard. There's lots of them.

Cheers
Jason

bermuDa · 03-16-2004, 06:29 PM

it's sort of a two way street. A hot girl probably has about the same chance of going out and getting laid as a hot guy that now how to act around women, it's just a matter of who is being pursued, who is doing the pursuing, and how well they do it. I'm guilty of saying to a friend that she could go out and get "some" whenever she wants, but not everyone wants lots of sex with random people just because they can, I know I don't.

As for the double standard, I think we can partially blame traditional gender roles for that. Men are seen as the pursuers, so they have to "work for the nookie", whereas women (the pursued) only have to be receptive to the man's efforts to initiate a physical encounter.

So from that point of view, men who sleep with a lot of women are just hard workers and women that are "too" receptive are "hos"

Cynthetiq · 03-16-2004, 06:50 PM

i know plenty of male sluts, both gay and straight. still they are sluts.

Mojo_PeiPei · 03-16-2004, 09:23 PM

I'm still standing by my philosophy... If you are having sex and not in a committed relationship with someone other then me, you are a ho.

Johnny Rotten · 03-16-2004, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
If you are having sex and not in a committed relationship with someone other then me, you are a ho.

Could you clarify that? Are you saying that someone should only have sex with someone they're in a committed relationship with? I respect that, but I don't know if that's what you're saying

Mojo_PeiPei · 03-16-2004, 09:46 PM

No, I'm saying if your hot and not in a relationship, you should only be having sex with me.

Booboo · 03-16-2004, 11:03 PM

I think its something like every 7 years you change chemically.. can like different foods ect and It probably applies to other things as well... from what I understand anyway.. wouldn't quote me on it.

Annabella · 03-17-2004, 02:40 AM

I tjinks it's ok if a girl wants to have a lot of sex..:!

Sleepyjack · 03-17-2004, 03:17 AM

What i don't get is that MOST guys (probably women as well?) want to have lots of sex, however they judge and degrade women who are more willing to have more sex?

You'd think we should be encouraging it or something?

I am generally only disagreeable when sex isn't done for a pleasurable thing, like if it's used to blackmail or get money etc off someone. Although i am somewhat indifferrent to the idea of prostitution.

So i think it be encouraging if more people (women) were disposed to having sex, and not be worried about others throwing around derogatory terms about them!

Quote:

Annabella said
I tjinks it's ok if a girl wants to have a lot of sex..:!

Huzzah!

Vaultboy · 03-17-2004, 05:58 AM

There is actually a lot of discussion on whether the sexual liberation has of women has been beneficial to women or not. The argumnt is that sure, women are having more sex nowadays and they're free to have as much as they want, but are they any happier than their sexually repressed and enslaved foremothers because of it?

The general consensus among women is "no". Sexual freedom has not brought any real happiness. Part of this reason is the topic of this thread, and another is that even women regard their peers who get laid a lot as whores. Added to that is the fact that a women's sexual makeup is dependant on more factors than the mere physical makeup of the sexual drives of men. By pushing women to explore "meaningless" sex, we are just making them surrogate men. And they dont even have to pursue a man to get sex: they just have to open their legs.

Sure, guys would like this sutuation, but over the centuries women have evolved as caregivers and carry the weight of the emotional components of a relationship. Its thus expected that a male "partner" should mean more than just a lay for a women. Otherwise she's losing what essentially makes her woman. In simple terms: Sluts are just pussy. They're not women.
This of course does not contribute to the already long-suffering fight for gender equality.

This long explanation brings us back to VF19's original assessment at the top of the thread.

cynicalgrrlll · 03-17-2004, 06:50 AM

Women are held to the double standard, but I think guys can by whores too

cynicalgrrlll · 03-17-2004, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mojo_PeiPei
No, I'm saying if your hot and not in a relationship, you should only be having sex with me.

Yes i second that!

bermuDa · 03-17-2004, 08:48 AM

while there are a lot of euphemisms for promiscuous women, I agree with an assertment that motdakasha made a long time ago that the term "slut" be reserved for people who sleep with others with malicious intent. As sleepyjack said,

Quote:

I am generally only disagreeable when sex isn't done for a pleasurable thing, like if it's used to blackmail or get money etc off someone. Although i am somewhat indifferrent to the idea of prostitution.

~~~
Sex for sex's sake without a committed relationship isn't necessarily a bad thing, and I don't think we should be applying labels for that reason alone.

Iliftrocks · 03-17-2004, 11:41 AM

I likes ho's.... ho ho ho

Plan9Senior · 03-17-2004, 11:43 AM

Simple answer...

Its very easy to open the legs. It is the parting of them that is difficult which is why us men deserve credit while you ladies get frowned upon.

Fenton-J-Cool · 03-17-2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cynthetiq
i know plenty of male sluts, both gay and straight. still they are sluts.

But the thing is, 'slut' doesn't have the same searing effect when you apply it to a male. Being called a slut is devastating for most girls (that I know. Once I said it to my sister in passing, and didnt hear her voice for about two weeks), but guys generally couldn't give a flying rat's ass if you say it.

thespian86 · 03-22-2004, 10:39 AM

One, when a man has sex with a woman all the guy's friends respect him ( I've never taken part in that but it's pretty much a rule, when your young at least) and two, men are assholes, dicks, pricks, losers, fucking idoits, shit for brains and so on and so forth... Women can take on Whore Slut and Bitch

03-16-2004, 11:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
dumbnutofak Crazy Location: Anchorage Alaska	Why is it girls are ho's?¿? Ok, I was jabbin up a storm on yahoo chat last night... VERY BORED and a chick asked two questions... Why is it a guy can sleep with lotta chicks and noone cares, but if a girl does it with a lotta guys she's a ho? and Why is it when we're young we like one person but as we get older we want more? I just told her people a judgemental and hypocritical. I was kinda curious on what everyone thinkss about these 2 questions... Also mind you the girl was 17 and im 19 so not like I have too much wisdom like some of you out there __________________ If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?

03-16-2004, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
motdakasha Hiya Puddin'! Miss me? Location: Silicon Valley, CA	The reason for the first question is the Madonna-Whore complex (or Madonna-Whore dichtomy). __________________ =^-^= motdakasha =^-^= Just Google It. BA Psychology & Photography (I'm not going psychoanalyze you nor will I let you cry on my shoulder. Have a nice day.)

03-16-2004, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Himbo Tilted Location: Canada	double standard I suppose its a double standard. There's lots of them. Cheers Jason

03-16-2004, 06:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	it's sort of a two way street. A hot girl probably has about the same chance of going out and getting laid as a hot guy that now how to act around women, it's just a matter of who is being pursued, who is doing the pursuing, and how well they do it. I'm guilty of saying to a friend that she could go out and get "some" whenever she wants, but not everyone wants lots of sex with random people just because they can, I know I don't. As for the double standard, I think we can partially blame traditional gender roles for that. Men are seen as the pursuers, so they have to "work for the nookie", whereas women (the pursued) only have to be receptive to the man's efforts to initiate a physical encounter. So from that point of view, men who sleep with a lot of women are just hard workers and women that are "too" receptive are "hos" __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

03-16-2004, 06:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	i know plenty of male sluts, both gay and straight. still they are sluts. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

03-16-2004, 12:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
RoboBlaster Psycho Location: Ouuuterrrr Spaaaaacccceeee	The reason we like different types of people as we get older is that we ourselves become different people as we get older.

03-16-2004, 04:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
VF19 Banned Location: back to my old location	because (hot) woman can get sex anytime they want, they just go up to some guy and tell him and they do it. but if it was a guy going up to a girl its sexual harassment and all that shit. so a guy who sleeps around is viewed as cool and a girl who does is viewed as wierd.

03-16-2004, 05:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lunchbox7 Addict	I like your explaination VF19. If as guy does it then its an acccomplishment thus respect comes from it. But it is no big deal for a girl so she doesnt recieve any positive reinforcement. But a girl gets payed out for it out of jelousy from guys that she can get it whenever she wants while a guy cant.

03-16-2004, 09:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I'm still standing by my philosophy... If you are having sex and not in a committed relationship with someone other then me, you are a ho. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

03-16-2004, 09:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	No, I'm saying if your hot and not in a relationship, you should only be having sex with me. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

03-16-2004, 11:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
Booboo Insane	I think its something like every 7 years you change chemically.. can like different foods ect and It probably applies to other things as well... from what I understand anyway.. wouldn't quote me on it. __________________ "Your life is yours to live, go out and live it" - Richard Rahl

03-17-2004, 02:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
Annabella Tilted	I tjinks it's ok if a girl wants to have a lot of sex..:! __________________ Milloin vaan voi kiihoittua!!

03-17-2004, 05:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
Vaultboy Addict Location: Third World	There is actually a lot of discussion on whether the sexual liberation has of women has been beneficial to women or not. The argumnt is that sure, women are having more sex nowadays and they're free to have as much as they want, but are they any happier than their sexually repressed and enslaved foremothers because of it? The general consensus among women is "no". Sexual freedom has not brought any real happiness. Part of this reason is the topic of this thread, and another is that even women regard their peers who get laid a lot as whores. Added to that is the fact that a women's sexual makeup is dependant on more factors than the mere physical makeup of the sexual drives of men. By pushing women to explore "meaningless" sex, we are just making them surrogate men. And they dont even have to pursue a man to get sex: they just have to open their legs. Sure, guys would like this sutuation, but over the centuries women have evolved as caregivers and carry the weight of the emotional components of a relationship. Its thus expected that a male "partner" should mean more than just a lay for a women. Otherwise she's losing what essentially makes her woman. In simple terms: Sluts are just pussy. They're not women. This of course does not contribute to the already long-suffering fight for gender equality. This long explanation brings us back to VF19's original assessment at the top of the thread. __________________ "Failing tastes of bile and dog vomit. Pity any man that gets used to that taste."

03-17-2004, 06:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
cynicalgrrlll Banned Location: We Have Just Lost Cabin Pressure	Women are held to the double standard, but I think guys can by whores too

03-17-2004, 11:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Iliftrocks Junkie Location: Near Raleigh, NC	I likes ho's.... ho ho ho __________________ bill hicks - "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."

03-17-2004, 11:43 AM	#20 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	Simple answer... Its very easy to open the legs. It is the parting of them that is difficult which is why us men deserve credit while you ladies get frowned upon.

03-22-2004, 10:39 AM	#22 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	One, when a man has sex with a woman all the guy's friends respect him ( I've never taken part in that but it's pretty much a rule, when your young at least) and two, men are assholes, dicks, pricks, losers, fucking idoits, shit for brains and so on and so forth... Women can take on Whore Slut and Bitch __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.