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Atreides88 03-16-2009 04:10 PM

Interracial Relationships
 
A friend of mine and I were talking the other day about dating somebody of a different ethnicity than ourselves, specifically thinking about how our families and friends would respond. I personally wouldn't mind dating someone of a different race but I'm pretty sure my parents would be up in arms about my dating anyone non-white, especially if I married this girl and had kids. I have no idea how my friends would respond.

What say you TFP? Would you be against dating inter-racially and how do you think your family and friends would react?

cdwonderful 03-16-2009 04:20 PM

love is love. And if you are lucky enough to find it, it should matter little whether they are black, white, asian or tobogo islander.....
nuff said.

LoganSnake 03-16-2009 04:38 PM

I'm white. Had an asian girlfriend. My family didn't care as long as I was happy.

KirStang 03-16-2009 05:22 PM

Different parents have different views. In my experience, there's a hierarchy of races, and certain races are less acceptable to parents than others.

Honestly, in this day and age it isn't a big deal, but there'll always be a couple of people who don't like it, and the majority probably don't care.

If the day comes that my child dates someone of another race, I'll probably focus more on his/her temperament and background more-so than his/her race.

genuinegirly 03-16-2009 05:44 PM

Any difference that matters to your family can make an impact.
I married a white male. I am a white female.
My husband is Catholic. I was raised Mormon.
Parents took some time to get over this religious hangup.

Parents love you pretty much no matter what.
Friends should do the same.
Stereotypes are meant to be shattered.
Don't destroy a good thing by worrying what family and/or friends will think.

Fotzlid 03-16-2009 05:57 PM

I am white, she is Filipino. My family fully accepted her as a member. Some days I think my folks like her more than me.

My "friends" were another story. Within a few months of starting to date her, I lost all contact with just about all of them. I always knew they talked trash about other races but it stunned me initially when they cut me out. Obviously no big loss on my part.

telekinetic 03-16-2009 06:16 PM

I'm white, she's mostly Navajo. I never realized for a long time (like, after we were married) that we were an 'interracial couple'...just that she was hot!

Cynthetiq 03-16-2009 06:28 PM

Catholic married to a jew. Filipino married to a white girl.

so what?

we get more looks from other ethnicities than from either of our parents.

Xerxys 03-16-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq (Post 2609692)
we get more looks from other ethnicities than from either of our parents.

GASPS!!!

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../nelson6mu.gif


We must ostracize you ... you ... you ... you bad person you ... must make you into an outcast!!!

Seriously, I absolutely have no idea why some things can not be looked past. The thing is, I don't get this from just my parents but most of the people I used to conisder friends. I think I have grown up a bit to have severed contact with those idiots.

When will some people realize that you can never know someone simply by their race?!

snowy 03-16-2009 08:00 PM

My parents and family wouldn't bat an eye, and it wouldn't make a difference to me one way or the other.

Shaindra 03-16-2009 08:04 PM

I've dated blacks, bi-racial men, hispanics and Indians. It's a big, liberal city. Nobody batted an eyelash at me. Inter-racial couples aren't even worth comment about here and the kids are universally acknowledged as gorgeous.

My parents, on the other hand, not so thrilled.

new man 03-16-2009 08:56 PM

Dating would be fine. My personal issue is that if I had kids, I would want them to look like me. I have yet to see a biracial child that looks like the white parent. It shouldn't bug my supposedly enlightened self, but it would. For us rational empiricists, our children are our only shot at immortality, so carry on the family resemblance. I don't know, maybe if I had mixed kids the scales would fall away from my eyes, but that is how I feel now.

What if you had a sperm donation, and they gave you the wrong sample? Husband's impotent, they secretly get pregant through clinic, and the baby is the wrong color?

Martian 03-16-2009 09:20 PM

I've never dated someone who wasn't white, but I'm not opposed to the idea per se. At this point Magpie might be, but if we ignore that aspect (ie if hypothetically I were single) I don't think such things would matter.

The content of a person's character is much more important than the colour of their skin.

spindles 03-16-2009 09:27 PM

Personally I don't have anything against such relationships but (even if I wasn't married), I think I'd be unlikely to have one myself. I just am attracted to white girls more than others. I can't say it would never happen, but I'm yet to meet to many non-whites that I'm hugely attracted to.

777 03-16-2009 09:29 PM

I had a thing for asian girls until I dated one in high school.

And I'm latino, which isn't unusual for asians and latinos to date out in the East Los Angeles area, since that's all that's out here. Actually, it's hard to find white people in that area :)

Xerxys 03-16-2009 10:51 PM

new man, you want pics? I can show you a family so large that I believe I am somehow related to all races possible.

Cynthetiq 03-17-2009 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 777 (Post 2609767)
I had a thing for asian girls until I dated one in high school.

And I'm latino, which isn't unusual for asians and latinos to date out in the East Los Angeles area, since that's all that's out here. Actually, it's hard to find white people in that area :)

yeah, they were in all the areas that I grew up in, the SFV and further north and west.

LoganSnake 03-17-2009 06:56 AM

When I was dating the asian, when we were at China Town, we got so many looks (mostly negative) from the asians there it was ridiculous. She actually felt bad and wondered if it bothered me. It didn't. Screw them.

little_tippler 03-17-2009 06:58 AM

there is a difference when you say race and ethnicity. For example, I am Portuguese, of latin heritage, but I would not call myself a 'Latina'. But then I am of Portuguese origin, so ethnically, I am bound to the group of people who share my heritage. So I am in a way a 'latina'. Would this be more relating to Spanish-speaking people? I would tell you I'm white-skinned, which I suppose is, in part, my race. Race encompasses more biological inherited features, whereas ethnicity encompasses culture and belief systems.

So, when asked about inter-racial relationships, my first reaction is, I have never been in one. But if I were to be considered 'latina', then I have dated many 'white' guys. It's almost funny to think about.

Basically, this never crosses my mind . I can say that I have been attracted to men of other ethnicities and races in my life. Doesn't bother me. Could happen one day. But generally I am more often attracted to white men.

I have no idea how my mom would react. She might not expect it I guess, but she'd be ok with it I think.

dlish 03-17-2009 09:59 AM

i always said that when i marry my polygamous 2nd 3rd and 4th wives, they'd have to all be of different ethnicities. one asian, one anglo and one i havent decided yet.

Daniel_ 03-17-2009 10:54 AM

I'm a Southerner, and I married a Geordie - does that count as inter-racial?

MSD 03-17-2009 12:09 PM

I have not problem with it, and I'm pretty sure my mom would outwardly approve while concealing the fact that she felt uneasy about it until she got over it. She grew up in a different time, and while she's smart and educated, ingrained things are hard to get rid of, but she can consciously overcome it. I'm pretty sure some people in my extended family would silently disapprove of me with a black girl, but to be perfectly honest, their opinions are in the hierarchy of things I give a shit about just below what my broken Magic 8-Ball says.

dlish 03-17-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2610000)
I'm a Southerner, and I married a Geordie - does that count as inter-racial?

geordie=someone from newcastle right?

cdwonderful 03-17-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2610037)
geordie=someone from newcastle right?

huh?

Cimarron29414 03-17-2009 12:47 PM

I have a good friend who is white and is a quadrapalegic (might be misspelled, to lazy to care). He was dating a black girl pretty seriously and wanted to marry her. He went to meet her parents to progress the relationship. Her parents pitched a royal fit over her choice - not because she would spend the rest of her life helping care for a disabled person....but because he was white. She broke it off shortly there after. Really sad.

highthief 03-17-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atreides88 (Post 2609630)
A friend of mine and I were talking the other day about dating somebody of a different ethnicity than ourselves, specifically thinking about how our families and friends would respond. I personally wouldn't mind dating someone of a different race but I'm pretty sure my parents would be up in arms about my dating anyone non-white, especially if I married this girl and had kids. I have no idea how my friends would respond.

What say you TFP? Would you be against dating inter-racially and how do you think your family and friends would react?

Well, my wife is half Chinese and half German, she's gorgeous, and we have a beautiful child who is obviously mixed race as well.

I don't understand folks who won't date someone of another ethnicity (or religion for that matter). Why cut yourself off from the billions of opportunities in the world?

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Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2610037)
geordie=someone from newcastle right?

Yup. And the Geordies are much nicer than those nasty southerners!

:thumbsup:

LoganSnake 03-17-2009 02:52 PM

It's one thing to not date a person of another race purely because they are of another race than it is to simply be not attracted to a particular skin color and/or physical features.

I'm not attracted to very dark skin and African features at all. However, tanned looking girls with european facial features can be quite hot. Serena Williams? No thanks. Christina Milian? Yes, please!

spindles 03-17-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2609978)
one i havent decided yet.

Martian perhaps? (as in from Mars/outer space)?

blar 03-18-2009 01:00 PM

the only problem I have with interracial relationships is the people that like/ date other of a certain race because of some sort of obsession, "fetish", status etc etc

liek the person for who they are not what they are.....too much times I have seen people turn down someone because they are not the race they want....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganSnake (Post 2609883)
When I was dating the asian, when we were at China Town, we got so many looks (mostly negative) from the asians there it was ridiculous. She actually felt bad and wondered if it bothered me. It didn't. Screw them.

yea....that is very common where I live

if you are not korean, japannese or chinese and are dating one your dating life will turn into a Zoo exhbit where ever you go

cdwonderful 03-18-2009 01:03 PM

now thats inscrutable.....

dlish 03-18-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles (Post 2610131)
Martian perhaps? (as in from Mars/outer space)?

anything of the female species is a candidate... blue, green, pink..does it really matter?

i have no issues with interracial relationships. it does become an issue with arab families a lot though. even arabs marrying non arabs, or lebanese marry lebanese are issues depending of where you come from. lebanese are racist against their own people.

its a strange world we have

Xerxys 03-18-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2610559)
anything of the female species is a candidate...

Please sir, correct this statement and right my foothold on reality. Failure to do so will have catastrophic results on my imagination.

ItWasMe 03-18-2009 04:41 PM

We have many inter-racial marriages in our family. So many, that if any family member does object, they are probably afraid to open their mouth to protest. That would be a quick way to be 'forgotten' around here when the next family potluck invites get mailed. I know they wouldn't be on my guest list.

SabrinaFair 03-19-2009 02:31 PM

I personally have no problem with interracial dating/relationships/sex/whatever. My parents would accept it if I brought home someone of a different race, although I can imagine they might not be thrilled. My extended family, on the other hand....yeah, they'd have a problem with it. My grandparents in particular have a problem with anyone who's not white straight Protestant, which is why they've not been informed that my brother is gay and I'm dating a Jew. I'm not close with my extended family, though, so their approval has no bearing on my decisions.

Dawolf13 03-19-2009 02:39 PM

Being from toronto where everyone seems to come from everywhere but toronto, I have ended up dating a persian girl (me being white). Both our families are cool with it.

Esoteric 03-20-2009 05:39 AM

Doesn't matter to me, and I know it wouldn't to my family either.

Leto 03-20-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawolf13 (Post 2611004)
Being from toronto where everyone seems to come from everywhere but toronto, I have ended up dating a persian girl (me being white). Both our families are cool with it.

so... Persians are white. I think (as Little tippler stated) that people get more often hung up on ethnic (in this case Persian or Iranian) differences than the obvious racial (Persians, Europeans, Arabs/Israelis, Latinos, etc all being Caucasian) differences that come about when the three traditional racial types comingle.

I am Caucasian, (German/Scottish background) married to an Oriental girl (Han / Chinese) with three sons. At first there was more resistance from her side with the racial admixture, as my side of the family was already jaded by the ethnic mixing of british/german ethnicities. But her family is well onside now, and 2 more daughter married Caucasion as well. My friends? Well, being from Toronto, they could care less, as this city is a city of mixtures...

belle_enigma 03-20-2009 06:56 PM

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duskytip 03-21-2009 05:10 PM

This is about you and your happiness. Stop thinking about what your parents want and start focusing on your happiness. The rest will settle itself out.

blar 03-22-2009 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto (Post 2611289)
so... Persians are white. I think (as Little tippler stated) that people get more often hung up on ethnic (in this case Persian or Iranian) differences than the obvious racial (Persians, Europeans, Arabs/Israelis, Latinos, etc all being Caucasian) differences that come about when the three traditional racial types comingle.

I am Caucasian, (German/Scottish background) married to an Oriental girl (Han / Chinese) with three sons. At first there was more resistance from her side with the racial admixture, as my side of the family was already jaded by the ethnic mixing of british/german ethnicities. But her family is well onside now, and 2 more daughter married Caucasion as well. My friends? Well, being from Toronto, they could care less, as this city is a city of mixtures...

I am from toronto as well

from your location I am guessing you live downtown if you goto to markham or richmond hill etc etc OMG the looks one gets get he is with a chinese or korean girl

actinic 03-22-2009 03:08 PM

I'm Chinese Buddhist w/French/Irish/English Canadian Catholic. Her grandparents were the most resistant and my parents gave up on me marrying/dating Chinese ages ago...LOL!

Growing up in New Brunswick in the 70's and 80's, I've grown quite a thick skin to jeers, whispers and such. In 2005 we took a cross Canada road trip and it was her first time experiencing of blatant bigotry and at times was quite uncomfortable when we had to fill up, stop to eat, etc, in the smaller towns.

In a small town in Alberta, we were having lunch in a quaint cafe and a woman discreetly slipped a note to me that we had 5mins to eat up, pay get out. When we got to Calgary to see my sister and her husband (white), it was my wife and I that got more attention than my sis and her husband when the Calgary Stampede was going on and the "good ol' boys" flocked in.

Religious differences aside, IME/HO, it's more of a challenge when it's the male that's of "color" in an interracial relationship.

Can't we all frikken get along...LOL!

Man/Amazing 03-23-2009 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actinic (Post 2612261)
I'm Chinese Buddhist w/French/Irish/English Canadian Catholic. Her grandparents were the most resistant and my parents gave up on me marrying/dating Chinese ages ago...LOL!

Growing up in New Brunswick in the 70's and 80's, I've grown quite a thick skin to jeers, whispers and such. In 2005 we took a cross Canada road trip and it was her first time experiencing of blatant bigotry and at times was quite uncomfortable when we had to fill up, stop to eat, etc, in the smaller towns.

In a small town in Alberta, we were having lunch in a quaint cafe and a woman discreetly slipped a note to me that we had 5mins to eat up, pay get out. When we got to Calgary to see my sister and her husband (white), it was my wife and I that got more attention than my sis and her husband when the Calgary Stampede was going on and the "good ol' boys" flocked in.

Religious differences aside, IME/HO, it's more of a challenge when it's the male that's of "color" in an interracial relationship.


Can't we all frikken get along...LOL!

Myself Black/Native American/German, any time I dated someone outside my own races i've got jeers from pass cars, stares the whole nine. Gotten thick skin over the years. As the the OPs question I wouldn't be here if it weren't for a little race mixing back in the day, so I don't see anything wrong with it.

Leto 03-23-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blar (Post 2611940)
I am from toronto as well

from your location I am guessing you live downtown if you goto to markham or richmond hill etc etc OMG the looks one gets get he is with a chinese or korean girl

LOL - you 'd be correct. The 'burbs do tend to be a bit ghetto-ized (i.e. very little integration) but yes, I've been up to Richmond Hill / Markham many many times, and find the Asians up there to be far too self consumed to even notice what we do up there. Spent many an hour in the Pacific Mall, and all they want is my $$$.

dlish 03-23-2009 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belle_enigma (Post 2611551)
Okay so here's what I've had to deal with in regard to marrying other ethnicities. I'm white (mix of 6 different western european nationalities) with a Catholic background. I also was born in the US, but have dual citizenship with France too.

So I met this guy in France, we fell in love, but I soon discovered that French are very racist against Albanians. (The stereotype being that they were all drug dealers in gangs trying to find young innocent girls to kidnap and turn into prostitutes/sex slaves.) He was from Kosovo, spoke very little French, and to top it off... was a Muslim. (The Muslim stereotype being that they condone violence towards women and enslave their women as well.) More than once did my mother express to me how she viewed him to be the scum of the earth and I quote "was not like "us"".

Of course there was also the underlying issue that he may be using me to get to America, but I believe to this day that although I'm sure the idea crossed his mind all he ever wanted was to love me and be with me. Both of my parents hated the idea of him and although they let me continue the relationship as far as it could go, they truly made my life a living hell for being with him. All my friends always made dumb Muslim jokes as well and never showed any kind of support of it ever working out. My mother during the course of our relationship always said that I would be miserable because he would expect me to clean and cook and just make babies.

I ended it with him 5 months ago after trying everything I could to get him to America. Unfortunately, I don't have the money to help him or the desire to marry so I figured there was no future and that if I ended it now, he would have better luck finding someone else. However, he still calls me saying he loves me and it breaks my heart to have to ignore his calls as to not give him any hope for us when it's obvious we can't be together. I do love him though and miss him terribly.

as one of the few muslims here on this board, i can say with authority that what your parents speak of is plain stereotpical bigotry. my wife also of lebanese origin does not cook clean and make babies. she actually has a successful career and is one of the best in her field.

education is vital, if only to open up your (and your parents) mind to understand other ways of life. if only for your sake.

at the end of the day, a muslim is the same as the next person. we all want the same thing. believing in a certain religion does not make someone a monster. i certainly do not have those traits that your parents speak of, and quite frankly find it quite offensive. as for your friends, i'd drop them in a flash if they were treating you and your relationship in that fashin

SexyCat 03-23-2009 05:24 PM

I am white and married to a black guy, no one really seems to care unless we go to a super small towns with close minded people. We just as a general rule avoid going to little shit towns like those.

belle_enigma 03-23-2009 07:16 PM

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Terrell 03-24-2009 04:55 PM

I've dated women of other ethnicities before and have no problem with it.

KirStang 03-25-2009 01:05 AM

I'd imagine a more 'response provoking' question would ask, "How do you feel about other ethnicities dating women of your race?" I thought actinic brought up a good point. Most men will be ok with their own race dating other ethnicities, but when it comes to other men dating their ethnicity, ire arises.

Then again, guys tend to be competitive and consider some attractive woman's boyfriend inferior to themselves...

Terrell 03-25-2009 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirStang (Post 2613324)
I'd imagine a more 'response provoking' question would ask, "How do you feel about other ethnicities dating women of your race?" I thought actinic brought up a good point. Most men will be ok with their own race dating other ethnicities, but when it comes to other men dating their ethnicity, ire arises.

Then again, guys tend to be competitive and consider some attractive woman's boyfriend inferior to themselves...

I don't have a problem with men of other ethnicities dating women of my same ethnicity either. I never saw much of a point in telling people they couldn't date particular people, simply on the basis of skin color.

Nisses 03-25-2009 06:25 AM

Every time I see a thread with something like this in the title, is about the only time I actually consider/realize that I'm in an interracial relationship.

It simply doesn't matter.

Hasn't for the last 4 years.

Just came back from a trip to Japan, to meet my gf's other side of the family, and even there I didn't notice a single person looking twice at me for not being Japanese.


My cousin is dating a black girl;
And my niece (other part of the family) hangs out & has dated several spanish guys.


And we all grew up in a little shit-village as so eloquently put by somebody earlier in this thread.

I suppose if you let it bother you, ...

curiousbear 04-05-2009 06:05 AM

It is social behavior evolved out of so many generations. It has a purpose.

Now the power of YOUR love can beat it :)

Toaster126 04-17-2009 10:41 PM

As someone who is half black/white, every relationship I've been in has been with someone of a different race. :) I have dealt with prejudiced comments and outright slurs from people I'm blood related to, so I can say I have enough varying viewpoints to confidently say that all of it is silly and if you love someone go love them. Other people and their reactions are something to consider, but only for your reaction to them, not a reason to not pursue things with someone not like you or what someone else wants for you.

EDIT: Removed response to belle_enigma because I didn't finish reading the thread and I'm a terrible person that can't read good and stuff.

Short Putt 04-23-2009 03:40 AM

As a parent, with several married children, I must say that no one seems good enough for your child while they are dating, particularly if they have a stormy relationship. But if they love your child, and treat him/her well, pretty soon they become good enough in your parental heart. What a parent really wants is for their child to be/ to find happiness. Some differences in a mate will not fit the image in a parent's mind, but that will be overcome when the child is happy with their mate over time. That's my experience.

JohnBua 04-23-2009 04:52 AM

I have dated may girls of other races. They were filled with the same joys and sorrows of any other relationship. The only odd momemts were suplied by my own family when they awkwardly went out of their way to show how cool they were with me dating a black girl. My ex just laughed and said that they were just trying to be nice. It was a bit uncomfortable. Had we dated longer I am sure all would have been normal.

asaris 04-23-2009 05:02 AM

I'm Dutch Protestant, and my fiancee is Jewish. We haven't had any issues from the friends, but it definitely has taken the family a while to warm up to us! Fortunately, she's amazing, so they're coming around :)

Plan9 04-23-2009 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirStang (Post 2613324)
I'd imagine a more 'response provoking' question would ask, "How do you feel about other ethnicities dating women of your race?" I thought actinic brought up a good point. Most men will be ok with their own race dating other ethnicities, but when it comes to other men dating their ethnicity, ire arises.

Then again, guys tend to be competitive and consider some attractive woman's boyfriend inferior to themselves...

Interesting observation. Does that fit in with the "we're all a little racist" thing?

raptor9k 04-23-2009 12:33 PM

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cdwonderful 04-23-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptor9k (Post 2627738)
I don't have a problem with interracial relationships. I find women from many races attractive and could see myself dating interracially were I single. Don't have a problem with women doing what they want either. It's your life; if they don't like it fuck'em.

yea, like he said but with more exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anti fishstick 04-23-2009 09:27 PM

as an asian, i pretty much ONLY date inter-racially. I am not around a strong asian community so I have always dated caucasian men. I don't see a problem with it and I haven't noticed anyone bothered by it. I think it is more "accepted" for an asian female to date a caucasian male, however. If it were the other way around it might be different.

Plan9 04-23-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti fishstick (Post 2627930)
as an asian, i pretty much ONLY date inter-racially. I am not around a strong asian community so I have always dated caucasian men. I don't see a problem with it and I haven't noticed anyone bothered by it. I think it is more "accepted" for an asian female to date a caucasian male, however. If it were the other way around it might be different.

Yeah, I've found that "White Guy with Asian Girl" thing seems to be related to the post WWII / Korea / Vietnam phenomena. Just look outside Quantico, VA or Fort Bragg, NC. Seems like a million Caucasian crewcuts with Korean girlfriends. Hah, I was one of them for a while back in the day. Relationship had nothing to do with race, of course. She was smart, funny, and great in the kitchen (especially on the floor).

creepysusie 04-27-2009 12:23 AM

Following the, "Oriental Girl" phenomenon, I am a first generation Chinese Canadian and I have never really given thought about the "inter racial couples". It is just normal. When my parents met my boyfriend, they thought he was just a normal white guy. I never really bothered to tell them his cultural background; i didn't think i needed to. My friends are as diverse as the city is and I never really thought about it.

Later, my parents realized that he was mostly Scottish and a bit Aboriginal; had they not already had a good impression of him, things could have gone really differently. I wouldn't say that my parents are consciously racist, but they do have little racists moments that come out that i call out on. I honestly believe that it is because they grew up in a different time and even when there are individuals that "stereotype" mould, there are always excuses for them. And this goes for many people, not just my parents.

In my large extended family, I am the only one who is in a serious relationship with a non-Chinese person. I don't know what they think of him, but I think the world of him and I love him dearly and that is all that matters. (Though, my grandma did say that I "had tons of time to find a nice chinese boy" at the first impression, but has changed her opinion since)


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