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DaveOrion 08-18-2007 07:11 PM

Do You Find Vaginas Attractive??? (NSFW)
 
After reading the thread in the ladies lounge,'Do you find penises attractive', I wanted so much to express my long term love affair with the female form. I must say that the overall female body drives me wild with desire, but especially a firm pair of breasts, with nipples standing out in protest, a lovely curvred ass, covered in goosebumps, and most of all a beautifully contoured vagina, neatly trimmed beside those delicate labia, leaving just a small triangle a perfumed fur just above. That is my personal preference, but almost all vagina's seem to be absolutely gorgeous, with few exceptions. I found it a bit amazing that some women didn't find their own vagina's especially attractive, till I thought of my own penis and found it somewhat utilitarian, but not that attractive in my own mind. I suppose that once again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that a personal knowledge of a particular woman makes her vagina that much more beautiful to behold.

MexicanOnABike 08-18-2007 07:28 PM

It all depends on the woman and the look of it. Most of them will be very cute and mouthwatering but theres the few ugly ones that look like they have every possible STDs or "look" like they're 200years old. I prefer the clean smooth fresh looking vaginas. so overall, my answer is YES.

Willravel 08-18-2007 07:54 PM

Yes. God yes.

Jetée 08-18-2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Yes. God yes.

That was humourously ironic. :lol:


I cannot go into enough detail of all the little, detailed, and splendorous intricacies that the female form holds, especially the essence of pure womanhood, the prized and most coveted spectacle that most men prefer to behold, the almighty vagina.


So in a word: Yes!

Plan9 08-18-2007 08:24 PM

Man, I really miss those things.

DaveOrion 08-18-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin
Man, I really miss those things.

I really did laugh out loud!!! :) :) :)

xepherys 08-18-2007 08:27 PM

In almost all shapes, sizes and colors, yes! It amazes me how much the differ and how two extremely different ones can both look so wonderful. As far as girls not thinking their own are attractive, I don't understand. I love my penis. It's a good penis. *shrug* Girls, if you read this and you have uncertain feelings towards your girl, understand that most guys love all kinds. Is it meaty? Love 'em! Slight and delicate? Yup! Small soft labia? Great! Plush cushioned labia? Awesome! Even, uneven, tiny or average, fur or bald... vaginas really are wonderful!

Plan9 08-18-2007 08:40 PM

ADVERTISEMENT:

I like chicks with big noses and cushy labia.

Grasshopper Green 08-18-2007 09:03 PM

I have a question for the guys.

What about vaginas that have been through birth? Even with all of the scar tissue and obvious healing...are they still attractive?

Just curious :)

Willravel 08-18-2007 09:06 PM

Makes no difference for me. In fact, that gives the whole situation more meaning in my case.

xepherys 08-18-2007 10:28 PM

Medusa,

Yes, they are. My wife's vagina is just as beautiful now as it was before. My ex's didn't really change much either after childbirth. It doesn't make as much of a difference, visually or physically, as a lot of women are led to believe.

Valentina_J 08-19-2007 02:37 AM

It's interesting how many men here purport to have no preferences regarding a woman's nether regions, and to find them all beautiful. On forums for stripclub patrons (where I post regularly), I notice that the men are a bit more particular, referring to "innies" and "outies," and just generally being a bit more critical and discriminating.

It wouldn't surprise me to know that what I see on this forum is more the norm among guys who don't spend inordinate amounts of time staring at unobtainable naked chicks. It's nice. Refreshing & reassuring. :)

Personally, I find some vaginas much more attractive than others. But then I, too, have spent inordinate amounts of time staring at unobtainable naked chicks. :)

Miss Mango 08-19-2007 03:12 AM

Years and years ago, I was told by a boyfriend/lover that he found me very beautiful down there. I was embarrassed at the time and kind of brushed it off, but now I think that it may just be one of the best, and most empowering, compliments that I've ever received.

Aladdin Sane 08-19-2007 06:26 AM

You are kidding, right?

In short, I love me some va-jay-jay. They all appear good to me.

As for the changes brought by childbirth, I've never noticed. What changes? Every coochie is different, and I wouldn't know if the difference is from childbirth or not. Besides, I was under the impression it is a myth that childbirth (or anything else) changes the girlie hoo-haa. On this board and elsewhere I sometimes see comments by young guys (usually) who assume large pussy lips = slut.

Girljunk is good looking stuff. All of it.

bloody_rose20 08-19-2007 08:14 AM

I will have to say hell no. They are in no way attractive. You might say "Well you are a female, of course you wouldn't think they are." But I will tell you, I find the female ass to be very beautiful. So there :-P

ngdawg 08-19-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xepherys
Medusa,

Yes, they are. My wife's vagina is just as beautiful now as it was before. My ex's didn't really change much either after childbirth. It doesn't make as much of a difference, visually or physically, as a lot of women are led to believe.

One or two kids doesn't, but a friend of mine has had 5 within 10 years and my mother had 4 within 9 years and they both said it makes a big difference; my friend, when she asked her doctor, was told it could take up to 9 years for her vagina to go 'back down' and regain the elasticity. And the problems magnify when a woman is older, of course.

/me is very thankful for C-sections in this regard!

Terrell 08-19-2007 09:05 AM

Yes, Vaginas are gorgeous, I like the thin lipped pinkish ones best, but the vast majority of them are very attractive. Unattractive vaginas are the exception, not the rule in my opinion.

tecoyah 08-19-2007 09:12 AM

can I just say.....DUH!

Strange Famous 08-19-2007 09:26 AM

I wont indulge in any pervert talk... but certainly.

ktspktsp 08-19-2007 09:48 AM

Wasn't there a thread on nipples too recently?

Basically, regarding women:
Vaginas are attractive
Nipples and boobs are attractive
Asses are attractive

And much more :).

RenaissanceII 08-19-2007 09:53 AM

Yes they are....But what's even better is the person to whom the vulva is a part of....

LoganSnake 08-19-2007 11:26 AM

For the most part, of course. But I have seen some that completely turned me off.

Plan9 08-19-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I wont indulge in any pervert talk... but certainly.

It's not perverted. You came outta one once.

ssratt 08-19-2007 11:01 PM

All Honestly?
I have to say not right now, NOT because of the women or who they shaved etc.
What I have gone through in my life, I have to remember there's not MEANT to be anything there.
Once I get past that they are fine, some better than others but thats life

abaya 08-20-2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssratt
All Honestly?
I have to say not right now, NOT because of the women or who they shaved etc.
What I have gone through in my life, I have to remember there's not MEANT to be anything there.
Once I get past that they are fine, some better than others but thats life

Your post is a bit vague... can you clear it up? What have you gone through? And what do you mean, "there's not MEANT to be anything there?" Are you talking about hair, or... ?!

Fast Forward 08-20-2007 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
Do You Find Vaginas Attractive???

Yes, but only if it is unshaved and labia is visible. Otherwise it's boring and not worth looking at or paying any attention to at all.

river_ratiii 08-20-2007 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Yes. God yes.

:thumbsup: werd!

*Nikki* 08-20-2007 08:38 AM

Why, yes I do.

warrrreagl 08-20-2007 08:50 AM

To put it in perspective, I love it with equal intensity as you ladies worry about it.

Some kind of cosmic symmetry, or something.

RenaissanceII 08-20-2007 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrrreagl
To put it in perspective, I love it with equal intensity as you ladies worry about it.

Some kind of cosmic symmetry, or something.


But please no cosmetic surgery symmetry, if at all possible. ;)

Real works.

World's King 08-20-2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Nikki*
Why, yes I do.


That made my day.

DaveOrion 08-20-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssratt
All Honestly?
I have to say not right now, NOT because of the women or who they shaved etc.
What I have gone through in my life, I have to remember there's not MEANT to be anything there.
Once I get past that they are fine, some better than others but thats life

Vauge??? I must agree that there's not meant to be anything there......:confused:

TheCrumblenaut 08-20-2007 10:04 AM

Most definitely :thumbsup:

kutulu 08-20-2007 10:23 AM

Hell yes

ruggerp11 08-20-2007 10:50 AM

Without going into detail about my torrid love affair with Ms. Vagina I will quietly and intensely say "Yes, very much so" and leave it like that.

The_Jazz 08-20-2007 11:12 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that any guy that DOESN'T find vaginas in general attractive is most likely homosexual. I'm sure that there are the odd exceptions to that statement, but it looks like there hasn't been a single guy that's disproved me. That said, I'm sure we'd (the guys that is) all agree that there are examples of ones that would not be as attractive - Bea Arthur's for instance or Kathy Bates. But assuming we're talking about an attractive woman (subjectively), I think I can speak for all heterosexual males in saying that they would have an attractive vagina.

DaveOrion 08-20-2007 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that any guy that DOESN'T find vaginas in general attractive is most likely homosexual. I'm sure that there are the odd exceptions to that statement, but it looks like there hasn't been a single guy that's disproved me. That said, I'm sure we'd (the guys that is) all agree that there are examples of ones that would not be as attractive - Bea Arthur's for instance or Kathy Bates. But assuming we're talking about an attractive woman (subjectively), I think I can speak for all heterosexual males in saying that they would have an attractive vagina.

I'd have to agree with you, I surprise myself at times.

I wonder what the heterosexual guys think about penises in general??? Their own??? I found my own functional, but not what I'd consider attractive, and I'd have to say the same about others I've seen in locker rooms, in porn videos and such as that......they're just 'there'.

Xepherys responded that he loved his penis, and while I consider mine a good one too, I cant say I love mine & I havent named it either. :) Should I???

Bearface 08-20-2007 11:59 AM

I think the majority of guys find the vagina attractive. Its what some men would even refer to as "home". I know I do. haha

to quote the old adage:
"you spend 9 months waiting to come out, and the rest of your life waiting to get back in"

Leto 08-20-2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medusa
I have a question for the guys.

What about vaginas that have been through birth? Even with all of the scar tissue and obvious healing...are they still attractive?

Just curious :)

Absolutely yes.

I love to pay attention to that little epesiotomy scar. It's a badge of courage in my mind, that deserves some tender loving licking!

- just a side note, i find it strange that some (or a lot of) guys don't like female pubic hair. I myself think it's an amazing thing in any quantity, and only serves to enhance the vaginal experience. Also servers to indicate that I am not with a little girl!

abaya 08-20-2007 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto
Absolutely yes.

I love to pay attention to that little epesiotomy scar. It's a badge of courage in my mind, that deserves some tender loving licking!

- just a side note, i find it strange that some (or a lot of) guys don't like female pubic hair. I myself think it's an amazing thing in any quantity, and only serves to enhance the vaginal experience. Also servers to indicate that I am not with a little girl!

Yay! I'm glad to know that episiotomy scars can be considered so highly, and that I'm not the only one who thinks that a bald pussy looks a little too pre-pubescent. (Not that I don't mind seeing how baldness feels now and then, but I like at least some hair down there, to feel more womanly and comfortable.)

albania 08-20-2007 03:57 PM

I guess I’ll be the first guy to differ in opinion. I don’t find them particularly attractive, my compass seems to be set on neutral. Some I find slightly attractive others not so much, but I have no strong feelings towards any vagina. I suppose this has to do with my first experience seeing a naked woman. It was my older brother’s penthouse (I was 11 or 12 at the time), my first reaction was one of disgust. I thought it looked like the mouth of some alien creature or something and did not wholly understand why my brother would want to have this magazine in his possession. Over time my attitude obviously changed, but it’s strange how such trivial things can affect us.

ssratt 08-20-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya
Your post is a bit vague... can you clear it up? What have you gone through? And what do you mean, "there's not MEANT to be anything there?" Are you talking about hair, or... ?!

umm... ok, from 11-18, I was abused starting with my father and when sent to a couple of schools it continued. I got locked into a cycle of walking into things.
Thats what I meant by somethings "missing", compared to what others views are on the subject.
It's why I prefer women with at least some hair, otherwise it looks like a cut (sorry) you asked

ejm_msp 08-20-2007 06:32 PM

<= female

The BF likes the bare look, and I indulge him every now and then. (Although I wonder whether he'd go through the trouble for some physical thing I'd like; waxing the works is a big painful chore especially when one has good hair genes that don't translate into easy removal) It kind of creeps me out in a way, although I haven't talked to him about this directly because I don't want to be accusatory. It seems to me that someone that likes this look would also be into less savory things- if you know what I mean. I also think this the interest in this hairdo is generated by the adult entertainment industry, which is after as much shock value as possible. Maybe some men like it because they have their's showing when naked so we should too. I don't really get it.

I hope that I am never in a ladies lockerroom situation sporting this one, because I would feel like an incredibly stupid, vulnerable idiot.

Shauk 08-20-2007 06:54 PM

I <3http://www.crazy4tees.com/images/i-love-vagina.gif

Miss Mango 08-20-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganSnake
For the most part, of course. But I have seen some that completely turned me off.

Like what?
I'm curious.

Ilow 08-20-2007 07:36 PM

I love vaginas, darn near all of them. I love that no two look precisely alike, and I love that some women can't believe our fascination with them as we dive in. I prefer shaved or very well groomed myself.

Sion 08-20-2007 07:39 PM

this thread is (almost) worthless without pictures

Infinite_Loser 08-20-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sion
this thread is completely worthless without pictures

Fixed.

Fast Forward 08-21-2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sion
this thread is (almost) worthless without pictures

Yes. It's difficult to pass judgement without the aid of a visual example on the subject. I mean .... what does this thing look like, anyway? :surprised:

ejm_msp 08-21-2007 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilow
I prefer shaved or very well groomed myself.


Why?

ASU2003 08-21-2007 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Forward
Yes, but only if it is unshaved and labia is visible. Otherwise it's boring and not worth looking at or paying any attention to at all.


Because it can't hide as easily if there is no hair, it is more visually appealing.

And I am attracted to the girlie bits, not to the hair.

Leto 08-21-2007 05:33 AM

hmmm, but the hair is all part of the girlie bits.:confused:

river_ratiii 08-21-2007 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto
- just a side note, i find it strange that some (or a lot of) guys don't like female pubic hair. I myself think it's an amazing thing in any quantity, and only serves to enhance the vaginal experience. Also servers to indicate that I am not with a little girl!

I'm with you there. I said on the other thread, I'll take them anyway they come, but hair is my preference...mmmmm!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

DaveOrion 08-21-2007 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin
Man, I really miss those things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
I really did laugh out loud!! :) :) :)

Just to clarify, I didnt find it humerous that you missed 'those things'. It struck me as funny the way you said it....thats all.

Ok, please continue, visual aids would be nice when presenting your opinion about those things. :)

fooie 08-21-2007 04:47 PM

For the most part, very attractive, especially without pubic hair.

LoganSnake 08-21-2007 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Mango
Like what?
I'm curious.

As far as I can tell, my opinion is unpopular around these parts, but I find the shaved, clamshell shaped vaginas most attractive (that is, without the hanging labia). The ones that have turned me off featured enormous labias (much larger/longer than average) in various shapes or forms as well as one that was all bush and no flesh. Seriously, it was like a jungle. And then somebody decided to link me to a diseased looking vagina that almost made me throw up my lunch.

As for in real life, I haven't seen one that I didn't like. Yet.

ejm_msp 08-21-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fooie
For the most part, very attractive, especially without pubic hair.

But don't you ever think twice about how pre-pubescent that looks?

Infinite_Loser 08-21-2007 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejm_msp
But don't you ever think twice about how pre-pubescent that looks?

I don't. A little hair is nice, but totally unshaven is just a huge turn-off as far as I'm concerned.

*Shudders*

Ilow 08-21-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejm_msp
But don't you ever think twice about how pre-pubescent that looks?

No, I honestly don't think twice about it, and frankly often wonder about the people who associate shaved vaginas with prepubescents and feel the need to constantly comment on it. I prefer it for several reasons. In my experience, the women who shave or otherwise groom their vaginas are more sexually liberated and in-touch with their sexuality. Sex with shaved women feels exceptional (especially if I am closely groomed). No stupid hairs to get stuck to your tongue as you administer oral sex. It just looks "neater" and allows the beauty of the labia to be fully appreciated. The girl's hairs do not get caught during sex and pulled (had one complain about that before). I'm sure that there are more reasons, but those are a few off the top of my head.

ASU2003 08-21-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilow
No, I honestly don't think twice about it, and frankly often wonder about the people who associate shaved vaginas with prepubescents and feel the need to constantly comment on it.

I agree with that. I doubt that shaving the hair off a 40 year old will make her look 12.

And the most imporant factor is not how old it looks, but how old the woman attached to it is. If it is a 22 year old, it will be a 22 year old vagina, if it is a 34 year old, it will be a 34 year old vagina. It doesn't matter if their is any hair or not.

What I am attracted to is the shape, the color, the parts, the juices, but not the hair. And that doesn't mean I would want it shaved 100% of the time though. 95% would be good. :lol:

Fast Forward 08-21-2007 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto
hmmm, but the hair is all part of the girlie bits.:confused:

To the highest degree. Without it you might just as well borrow one of those blow-up dolls, sprinke it with talcum powder, and shove a vibrator up its' bum.

A real woman, with real hair on her good bits, is the reason why life exsists and the human race is not yet extinct. :)

ejm_msp 08-22-2007 04:21 AM

I'm glad someone finally had something smart to say about this. For me, having some hair is part of the over all 'I'm a woman' look and feel. Having NONE makes me feel vulnerable in a way- I guess women are lucky in that with hair their parts aren't usually exposed.

I would like to point out that the hairlessness look is perpetuated by certain industries, which then is imitated in life. Art imitates life imitates art? It's another part of the 'media and societal pressure to look a certain way...blah blah blah'. Not only is it a 'beauty standard' in the most intimate place (there is no refuge)when it's reinforced at home, it seems there really is no escape from these ideals, not in public or private.

Anyway, going bare is painful, and can be a considerable expense if getting waxed in a salon. Shaving doesn't last more than a day, and the grow back results in an extremely itchy crotch. I would invite any gentleman to go bare using these means and see how enthused he is.

That being said, I'm almost always a well-groomed (but sometimes bitter) girl.

RenaissanceII 08-22-2007 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejm_msp
I would invite any gentleman to go bare using these means and see how enthused he is.


I have... It is a Bitch.

match000 08-22-2007 05:31 PM

The answer is of course they are attractive, but not all.

Sometimes in porn I've seen one that looks like an ape or chimp's nose.. you guys know what i mean. those r hella nasty looking

TheCrumblenaut 08-22-2007 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejm_msp
Anyway, going bare is painful, and can be a considerable expense if getting waxed in a salon. Shaving doesn't last more than a day, and the grow back results in an extremely itchy crotch. I would invite any gentleman to go bare using these means and see how enthused he is.

I've never waxed, but I shave regularly - sure it was itchy the first one or two times, but now I'm rather used to it. As long as you don't constantly cycle from bare to hair I think the itchiness will subside. I don't know why but I prefer the feel of being shaved, when I first started I noticed it felt more cool (temp wise), though now it's been three years so I couldn't compare.

...As for waxing, I've seen some painful videos of bikini waxes - I'd never ask my SO to have one done (and thus justify myself not waxing). :thumbsup:

Hyacinthe 08-22-2007 10:32 PM

If I don't wax my legs I doubt I will wax anything else. I have very sensitive skin and waxing leaves wonderful black and blue lines even trying a variety of different waxes and salons.

Sometimes I can see the appeal of the vagina, some of them do look rather nice but so often part of my mind just goes blech! I'm not quite sure what makes the difference between attractive and not for me though ...

But then again I have the same opinion when it comes to penises.

Infinite_Loser 08-22-2007 10:59 PM

I just realized that I never actually responded to the question asked... :sad:

Anywho... Do I find vaginas attractive? Well, no. Not really. I like them, sure, but I don't find them attractive, per se. If you've seen one, you've seen 'em all. Personally, I'm more interested in the person it's attached to (If that makes any sense).

Fast Forward 08-23-2007 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejm_msp
I would like to point out that the hairlessness look is perpetuated by certain industries, which then is imitated in life.

Exactly!

"Back in the day" Playboy magazine pushed the limits of "smut" versus "art" straight into a corner and the only way they could display a COMPLETELY NAKED woman in their pages was if no pubic hair (or labia) was visible. Hence, the shaved pussy.

The "industrial imitation in life" you mention took over from there. I recently saw a TV documentary film about an increasing number of women who have their labia surgically removed. Every one of the women they interviewed said it was either (1)the centre-fold model portrayed in nudie magazines that motivated them - or (2)"to make it more attractive for their boyfriend/husband". The interesting thing is (but no surprise to me!) is that interviewing those boyfriends/husbands revealed that none of them had been consulted nor had they consented to the operation. :no: 2 - 1 = 1.

xepherys 08-23-2007 05:23 AM

Having their labia removed? At the risk of offending any females here who have undertaken such a procedure I must ask a giant and heartfelt WHAT THE FUCK? (no, WTF doesn't do this one justice). I can already see someone trying to compare this to circumcision, but uhm... yeah... I just can't even imagine. I know labia are different shapes, sizes, colors, et cetera, but if I went down on a woman and she simply was missing them, I think I'd be pretty freaked out. Labia, both sets, are a largely visual part of the attractiveness of a vagina. Otherwise it'd just be a hole.

bendsley 08-23-2007 05:52 AM

As long as they don't look like an old catcher's mitt, I'm all in.

JumpinJesus 08-23-2007 07:31 AM

There are way too many girls posting in here. We need a Men's Room so girls can't put in their icky thoughts.


Oh, yeah, the vagina. It really depends. Just like the penis, there are many different types, some I find more attractive than others.

RenaissanceII 08-23-2007 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
There are way too many girls posting in here. We need a Men's Room so girls can't put in their icky thoughts.


Now HUSH!
Besides those of us who love them, who better to comment on vaginas then their owners....

Tho I do believe that the vulvaectomy is imho beyond the pale.

abaya 08-23-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by match000
Sometimes in porn I've seen one that looks like an ape or chimp's nose.. you guys know what i mean. those r hella nasty looking

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendsley
As long as they don't look like an old catcher's mitt, I'm all in.

Hm, I know everyone has a right to their preferences and all... but what exactly are you guys talking about? For some reason these posts are reminding me of the thread about labia being "ugly" and "misshapen" or "discolored," etc. Is it really necessary to make these kinds of comments? Is someone's vaginal appearance going to be a dealbreaker for some people?!

Dilbert1234567 08-23-2007 11:26 AM

I've never met a vagina i didn't like... (barring those in medical books of diseases)

each one i've seen and been with has been a pleasure, shape, size, texture, they are each unique and special in there own wonderful way.

to each vagina out there::hearts::love::hearts::love::hearts:

Ilow 08-23-2007 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Forward
Exactly!

"Back in the day" Playboy magazine pushed the limits of "smut" versus "art" straight into a corner and the only way they could display a COMPLETELY NAKED woman in their pages was if no pubic hair (or labia) was visible. Hence, the shaved pussy.

The "industrial imitation in life" you mention took over from there. I recently saw a TV documentary film about an increasing number of women who have their labia surgically removed. Every one of the women they interviewed said it was either (1)the centre-fold model portrayed in nudie magazines that motivated them - or (2)"to make it more attractive for their boyfriend/husband". The interesting thing is (but no surprise to me!) is that interviewing those boyfriends/husbands revealed that none of them had been consulted nor had they consented to the operation. :no: 2 - 1 = 1.

Firstly, if youare looking to Playboy to prove your point about "certain industries" influencing society you are most assuredly barking up the wrong tree. In fact for a "smut" publication they are sort of conservative in this way. As near as I can recall (and since this is in regards to a topic that I hold quite an interest in--vaginas) they didn't really place a fully shaved playmate in their pages until quite recently, opting for what they saw as "artistic" instead. Since I was intimately involved with shaved vaginas since the mid 90's, I would have to say that this is a case of art imitating society, rather than the other way around. Now you could certainly make the case for the porn film industry or other publications, such as Hustler or Penthouse influencing society more, but truthfully I think it is more of a reaction to the ridiculous merkin-esque pubic afros of the 70's and 80's. Check out this link if you wonder what I am referring to (link NSFW) http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=121469

As far as the labiaplasty that i believe that you are referring to, I generally look at it as a form of Body Dismorphic Disorder where the person believes that there is really something wrong with their body, when in fact there is not (see Michael Jackson's nose). I would say that it's not unlike some eating disorders in that way. Of course society influences this in a certain way, but so does the rise of the cosmetic surgery industry. For the record I am not at all in favor of labiaplasty unless it is a matter of comfort (some women request it to make riding horses, bikes easier or for wearing swimwear) [shrug] I'm only the messenger.

Ourcrazymodern? 08-23-2007 03:14 PM

Frog od's sake!

We all came out of them, didn't we?

Vaginas are infinitely lovable.

ejm_msp 08-23-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilow
I think it is more of a reaction to the ridiculous merkin-esque pubic afros of the 70's and 80's. Check out this link if you wonder what I am referring to

I'm really glad someone else knows what a merkin is- quite possibly the funniest personal adornment ever.

BTW, most men are very merkin-esque if they don't trim. I could make a comment about how we should all be natural, but I'm not a fan of the ZZ top beard, so I'll stfu about that.



Hair growth and removal is basically a fashion trend. I predict that in ten years, hair down there will be back in fashion. I mean, remember Burt Reynolds? (ok, I was too young to REALLY remember) Now MEN are getting waxed.

Sorry to derail this perfectly fine thread about vaginas into a hair/no hair sinkhole.


Most women place much of their self-image/esteem based upon how their physical attractiveness matches up with an ideal, whatever that ideal is for that generation. With good reason, we've been judged on these parameters since before farming happened probably, and it's not going away. Most women just want acceptance, they want to know that it's ok to be themselves. Isn't that what everyone wants?

I'm glad to hear vaginas of all stripes make most of you happy!

Infinite_Loser 08-23-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ourcrazymodern?
We all came out of them, didn't we?

No. Some people came out through the stomach :D

Fast Forward 08-24-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ilow
I'm only the messenger.

Shoot 'im! :)

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Originally Posted by abaya
Is it really necessary to make these kinds of comments? Is someone's vaginal appearance going to be a dealbreaker for some people?!

Aparently, yes.

Look here! The man who wrote this (at the link below) ought to be shot. Here you have high-pressure sales propaganda at its' worst.

Note his free useage of words such as ”the problem of ..... pain .... discomfort .... embarrassment, also ”over-sized” (says who?) ....”inelegance”(!) ....”worsened anatomical variation”(?).

And then he concludes ”reduction is necessary” ("NECESSARY"? oh, of course!) .... ”improvement” (by what standard?), ”enhance”, ”better define ” (compared to what, a Lamborghini Countach without the gull-wing doors?)!

Here you go: http://www.labiaplastysurgeon.com/labiaplasty.html

Some perople will stop at nothing in order to line their pockets with gold. Have they no consciences at all?

ejm_msp 08-24-2007 03:37 AM

Encouraging us to feel ashamed about our bodies is worth billions of dollars. It all comes down to our evil consumerist economy that wants to suck our wallets, bodies, minds, and spirits dry. Many of us willingly let it.

abaya 08-24-2007 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ejm_msp
Encouraging us to feel ashamed about our bodies is worth billions of dollars. It all comes down to our evil consumerist economy that wants to suck our wallets, bodies, minds, and spirits dry. Many of us willingly let it.

Fuck that, man! Kill your television.

I'm still waiting to hear responses about the vagina looking like an ape's nose or baseball mitt... preferably from those who made the comments. What exactly are you implying?

fooie 08-24-2007 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ejm_msp
But don't you ever think twice about how pre-pubescent that looks?

Yes, I have. Kinda kinky, huh?

Dilbert1234567 08-24-2007 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fooie
Yes, I have. Kinda kinky, huh?

no.

Sharon 08-25-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ejm_msp
But don't you ever think twice about how pre-pubescent that looks?

To be honest (and I may be alone on this), I think that's ridiculous. Do you look at a man who shaves his moustache and beard and think, "God, he really should grow some facial hair, because he looks like a kid and I'd feel like a pervert"?

Of course not.

The non-scalp hair comes with puberty, and you can leave it or remove it as you please, whether it's on your face, armpits, chest or crotch. I like to be bare under my arms and down there. I don't think having hair there or not makes me any less of a woman.

healer 08-25-2007 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bendsley
As long as they don't look like an old catcher's mitt, I'm all in.

As if women didn't have enough to be self-conscious about. :shakehead:

squeeeb 08-25-2007 06:25 AM

i think all vaginas are beautiful, some more than others, but there is no ugly one...

Esoteric 08-25-2007 08:01 AM

I sure do.

DaveOrion 08-25-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya
Fuck that, man! Kill your television.

I'm still waiting to hear responses about the vagina looking like an ape's nose or baseball mitt... preferably from those who made the comments. What exactly are you implying?

Uh oh, you guys have pissed off abaya, she's waiting.........:eek:

TH12 08-25-2007 10:41 AM

Yes, in multiple ways. Sometimes the frangrance is intoxicating, but other times it can be rank, which is off putting. But visually, they're just super. The fury ones are kind of fun to part the fur and open up, then expore. The bare ones are beautiful without hiding, but can be scratchy. Just like faces, they are all different, though similar. Just as I would never tire of meeting pretty women, and exchanging smiles, I can hardly imagine tiring of meeting their little clams and exchanging, well, getting to know them.

Sion 08-25-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeeb
i think all vaginas are beautiful, some more than others, but there is no ugly one...


you haven't seen enough porn yet

DaveOrion 08-25-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharon
To be honest (and I may be alone on this), I think that's ridiculous. Do you look at a man who shaves his moustache and beard and think, "God, he really should grow some facial hair, because he looks like a kid and I'd feel like a pervert"?

Of course not.

The non-scalp hair comes with puberty, and you can leave it or remove it as you please, whether it's on your face, armpits, chest or crotch. I like to be bare under my arms and down there. I don't think having hair there or not makes me any less of a woman.

You're not alone, and it is ridiculous Sharon. I'm sure you're no less a woman, because you shave down there. I'd love to help. :)

Ilow 08-25-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharon
To be honest (and I may be alone on this), I think that's ridiculous. Do you look at a man who shaves his moustache and beard and think, "God, he really should grow some facial hair, because he looks like a kid and I'd feel like a pervert"?

Of course not.

The non-scalp hair comes with puberty, and you can leave it or remove it as you please, whether it's on your face, armpits, chest or crotch. I like to be bare under my arms and down there. I don't think having hair there or not makes me any less of a woman.

of course you're not alone. I said nearly the same thing earlier, although you may have said it better. It is a good point that being an adult does not mean having hair, it means having the choice to do as you wish with it.

Midnight 08-25-2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leto
Absolutely yes.

I love to pay attention to that little epesiotomy scar. It's a badge of courage in my mind, that deserves some tender loving licking!

- just a side note, i find it strange that some (or a lot of) guys don't like female pubic hair. I myself think it's an amazing thing in any quantity, and only serves to enhance the vaginal experience. Also servers to indicate that I am not with a little girl!

Oh my god - a real man! Thank you so much.

Do I find vaginas attractive? Not particularly. Like DaveMatrix and his penis, I've seen my netherregions and find it to be fairly boring. it's just .... well.. there. BUT - that doesnt mean I don't want a man like Leto down there having a look. I totally agree about both my epesiotomy scar, and the fact that there is hair there. I am NOT a little girl and don't want any man near me that wants things shaved bare down there. (well manicured/trimmed of course is more than reasonable to ask for) but bare pussies belong on little girls. I wan't men, not pedophiles around me down there thanks.

Sion 08-25-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight
but bare pussies belong on little girls. I wan't men, not pedophiles around me down there thanks.



men who like shaved pussies are pedophiles huh?


horsefeathers!

DaveOrion 08-25-2007 03:58 PM

Real men tend to be into whatever the women in their lives are into, or vice versa. While I do prefer some hair down there as I said in the OP, I'm sure I could completely get into a shaved muff. I'm flexible on this matter.

Midnight 08-25-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion
men who like shaved pussies are pedophiles huh?


horsefeathers!

hey I'm willing to admit that everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. This happens to be MY view. Everyone is welcome to share or NOT share my opinion on it.

That happens to be how I see it. It's an issue I've worked on trying to get over. I can't. Nothing anyone is going to say will change MY mind on this one. I completely respect everyone's right to agree with me or DIS agree with me , regardless of where their opinion falls on the subject.

All it really comes down to at the end of the say is, if you want to be playing with me, that area is either natural or trimmed. To state a strong preference for it to be bald is to get the boot out of my bed and life, and to state said preference BEFORE making it that far just ensures you will NEVER get there. Thats all. It's no biggie gentlemen. You want that sort of thing - I'm not it, go find it. Thats all. Unlike DaveMatrix, I'm NOT flexible on the matter.

abaya 08-25-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveMatrix
Uh oh, you guys have pissed off abaya, she's waiting.........:eek:

That's right, bitches... I don't just go away. Answer me. :D

DaveOrion 08-25-2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight
hey I'm willing to admit that everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. This happens to be MY view. Everyone is welcome to share or NOT share my opinion on it.

That happens to be how I see it. It's an issue I've worked on trying to get over. I can't. Nothing anyone is going to say will change MY mind on this one. I completely respect everyone's right to agree with me or DIS agree with me , regardless of where their opinion falls on the subject.

All it really comes down to at the end of the say is, if you want to be playing with me, that area is either natural or trimmed. To state a strong preference for it to be bald is to get the boot out of my bed and life, and to state said preference BEFORE making it that far just ensures you will NEVER get there. Thats all. It's no biggie gentlemen. You want that sort of thing - I'm not it, go find it. Thats all. Unlike DaveMatrix, I'm NOT flexible on the matter.

So if you met your dream man, everything you ever wanted in a man, I mean just absolutely perfect for you, but he preferred that you shaved your monkey, you'd just let him go???

Midnight 08-25-2007 06:16 PM

Yeah Dave. I would. What can I say... Some hang ups we never get over...

For the record, I have good reason for this particular one being cemented in place.

(to decode that for the masses - theres a story there I don't want to get into more than I would think you could surmise from my stance on the subject)

DaveOrion 08-25-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight
Yeah Dave. I would. What can I say... Some hang ups we never get over...

For the record, I have good reason for this particular one being cemented in place.

(to decode that for the masses - theres a story there I don't want to get into more than I would think you could surmise from my stance on the subject)

Hypothetically speaking your dream guy only preferred that you shave, he wasnt adamant about it. I wasnt trying to pry into your personal life. I thought you might teach your dream man about the satiating pleasure of a nice bush, thats all.


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