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raveneye · 04-18-2005, 10:08 AM

Time magazine this week has Ann Coulter on the cover, plus several articles and a photo essay about her:

http://www.time.com/time/

Interestingly, the magazine appears to have been fooled by the G.O.P. satire group Communists for Kerry, taking it at face value in a photo caption.

Is this a really, really slow news week? Who cares about the life of a third rate editorialist?

The Jolt · 04-18-2005, 10:37 AM

I actually tend to agree with her, although she goes off the deep end every once in a while.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003

I think you'll agree that she at least got that right.

RAGEAngel9 · 04-18-2005, 10:52 AM

What happened to her face?
Or did time just pick the worst photos of her that they could find?
Either way I think she's off her rocker.

Kadath · 04-18-2005, 11:14 AM

I'm happy to see that the poll Time is running with regard to this cover (Does Ann Coulter make a positive contribution to American political culture?) shows that most people appear to know how worthless Ann really is: 76% of a quarter of a million people say no, she is not.

Bill O'Rights · 04-18-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jolt

I actually tend to agree with her, although she goes off the deep end every once in a while.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003

I think you'll agree that she at least got that right.

A.) No, I don't agree
but, that aside...
B.) I'd be very interested in hearing your take on why women should not be given the vote.

The_Dunedan · 04-18-2005, 11:34 AM

She ( Coulter ) crunched some numbers, and concluded that absent the female vote the Republicans would have won every Presidential election for 50-odd years. It's lunacy, but what does one expect? She's the Michael Moore of the right; shrill, disingenuous, totally lacking in credibility, and a recurring PITA.

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 11:36 AM

Time runs covers of interesting and influential people. Coulter, but barely, qualifies in that regard. She may be a third rate hack, but she gets star treatment by fox news. Besides most third rate journalists don't write best sellers.

My favorite thing about her is that she makes ridiculous public statements and then tries to hide them under the hyperbole umbrella.

Willravel · 04-18-2005, 11:38 AM

I've seen magic 8 balls with better information than Anne Coulter. She has no buisness bing on the cover unless it reads: "Anne Coulter: Let's All Ignore Her from Now On, Okay?" or perhaps, "Dumbest Woman in America", or maybe "A Case for Deportation?".

Strange Famous · 04-18-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jolt

I actually tend to agree with her, although she goes off the deep end every once in a while.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003

I think you'll agree that she at least got that right.

No, thats just silly. I can only assume you are just saying something to try and get a reaction out of people.

As for Ann Coulter, I never quite worked out if she was for real, or she is a satire (like The Onion or something) ... cos she seems like she means it, but then she just comes out with things that you think "no way"... I dont know, does anyone genuinely follow this women?

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel

I've seen magic 8 balls with better information than Anne Coulter. She has no buisness bing on the cover unless it reads: "Anne Coulter: Let's All Ignore Her from Now On, Okay?" or perhaps, "Dumbest Woman in America", or maybe "A Case for Deportation?".

That seems to be everyone's attitude with no regard to the influence she actually wields. The left has Michael Moore. A fat, simpering, dramatic bag of fat. So the Right rolls out a tall, thin, blonde with the same tactics and a different message. Her books sell. You can ignore the ho-bag all day long but a lot of people don't.

What's up with those freaky long and thin hands though?

Strange Famous · 04-18-2005, 11:49 AM

I mean, look at this... is this real? Can we really believe that any ordinary American's follow someone who's publically says things like this?/

I cant take this seriously, because if she means it, and she actually has an audience... in the most advanced and wealthiest nation in the world... thats just too frightening

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 11:57 AM

Four books. Four new york times best sellers.

raveneye · 04-18-2005, 11:59 AM

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Time runs covers of interesting and influential people. Coulter, but barely, qualifies in that regard.

She's interesting in a clinical sense, yes. But in any other sense, not that I can see.

Willravel · 04-18-2005, 12:04 PM

Didn't Britney Spears have a NYT best seller? What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot?

Anne Coultier is like a zit. We pick at her because it bothers us, no reason beyond that. Some of us simply shrug and say it's a part of the world, but most of us only pay attention because it is a blemish.

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Didn't Britney Spears have a NYT best seller? What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot?

Anne Coultier is like a zit. We pick at her because it bothers us, no reason beyond that. Some of us simply shrug and say it's a part of the world, but most of us only pay attention because it is a blemish.

You're right. How could I ever imply that a woman with four bestsellers, a syndicated column, and a running gig on fox news, was influential..or even *gasp* interesting despite her idiotic politics.

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Is this a really, really slow news week? Who cares about the life of a third rate editorialist?

You? Millions of people buying her books?

silent_jay · 04-18-2005, 12:25 PM

I just watched a documentary the other night on CBC, had Ann Coulter on it arguing with a CBC reporter that Canada sent combat troops to Vietnam, sorry Ann but no go on that one Canada had troops as part of the ICC but not as combat troops.

Here's a link to the CBC documentary I am referring to, there's a place at the top where you can stream the documentary if you choose to http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

Then she says that Canada is lucky the US lets us live on the same continent as them, and that Canada better hope the US doesn't roll over and squish us. Now this doesn't sound like a woman who has a grip on reality, I mean in a normal situation this whack job would be locked up where she belongs.

This just shows how slow the news has been lately I guess when she gets a cover spot, I hate this woman, she should just go away.

Willravel · 04-18-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

You're right. How could I ever imply that a woman with four bestsellers, a syndicated column, and a running gig on fox news, was influential..or even *gasp* interesting despite her idiotic politics.

Brisney Spears is influential. Arguabally more influential than Anne. That doens't mean people respect her. That doesn't give her words meaning.

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Brisney Spears is influential. Arguabally more influential than Anne. That doens't mean people respect her. That doesn't give her words meaning.

What world of madness do you inhabit? Do you always find it hard to distinguish between teen pop stars(who really don't have any influence these days, and when they did managed to solely exert it over the spending habits of teenagers) and journalists? But don't let me stop your crazy train.

Willravel · 04-18-2005, 12:41 PM

Let's keep this respectful. Don't ever treat me with disrespect.

Anne Coultier is to journalists as Jean Cladue Van Dam is to Shakepearien actors. She is nothing more than a big neon sign that means nothing. She attracts plenty of attention, thus all the book sales, fox news and column, but she is nothing of meaning. Her words are simply there for shock value. She is a slighhtly feminine Howard Stern. She is not here to help people or to report news or valid opinions. She is here to say "Look at me!! I'm crazy!!! Women are stupid and Canada is working with Iraq!! Please, look at me!!!!"

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Let's keep this respectful. Don't ever treat me with disrespect.

Anne Coultier is to journalists as Jean Cladue Van Dam is to Shakepearien actors. She is nothing more than a big neon sign that means nothing. She attracts plenty of attention, thus all the book sales, fox news and column, but she is nothing of meaning. Her words are simply there for shock value. She is a slighhtly feminine Howard Stern. She is not here to help people or to report news or valid opinions. She is here to say "Look at me!! I'm crazy!!! Women are stupid and Canada is working with Iraq!! Please, look at me!!!!"

Notice that I never disagreed(in spirit) with your last paragraph. I even stated myself that she's a loony. But she's a loony that people listen to. The only issue I with this entire thread was that people were implying Right and Left that she was was inconsequential to the the current political climate.

And I'll sass you as much as I goddamn please. At least when your analogies are way off base.

Pacifier · 04-18-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot?

I respect Mankind much more than Coulter

But I'm also not sure if she is for real. I wouldn't be surprised if she uses such idiotic statements to be in the spotlight.

silent_jay · 04-18-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

And I'll sass you as much as I goddamn please. At least when your analogies are way off base.

Maybe take a wee little read of this before you decide you're going to sass someone as much as you please. The TFP doesn't work like that we respect all members here and "sass" isn't tolerated.
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/announcement.php?f=5

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Willravel · 04-18-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

Notice that I never disagreed(in spirit) with your last paragraph. I even stated myself that she's a loony. But she's a loony that people listen to. The only issue I with this entire thread was that people were implying Right and Left that she was was inconsequential to the the current political climate.

Are you sure people listen to her? Are you sure she isn't just another sideshow? If people listen to her, I feel great pity for those people. I sincerly hope that no one takes her seriously, becuase I don't theink she takes her media persona seriously. It's much like the rest of fox news: a reality tv show intended to entertain (or possibly misinform), not inform.

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

And I'll sass you as much as I goddamn please. At least when your analogies are way off base.

I'm sorry, but you don't have that right. Please read the TFP guidelines and policies if you need clarification. You can attack my analogies, but not my person. There is a huge difference. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

Lebell · 04-18-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

And I'll sass you as much as I goddamn please. At least when your analogies are way off base.

Not if you want to stay here.

If there is a problem with a post, REPORT it.

But last time I checked the forum rules, off base analogies are not against the rules.

"Sass" directed at other members, however, is.

Pacifier · 04-18-2005, 01:25 PM

poor Ms. Coulter seems not to be too happy with her picture:
COULTER RIPS MAG PHOTO 'DISTORTION'
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3act.htm

Well a distorted picture fits her distorted views.

Mbwuto · 04-18-2005, 01:26 PM

I sincerely apologize for calling you insane. It was just your analogy that glimpsed the world through a lens of madness.

Love,

Mbwuto.

Fourtyrulz · 04-18-2005, 01:38 PM

I think I might have said this in some other long obscure Coulter thread, but I (like Strange Famous) can't take her seriously. Mostly out of the fear that in 10 years a bunch of insiders will come out of the woodwork and admit that she was just a Kaufman-esque joke perpetrated by someone in the radical left, "I can't believe you guys actually listened to that crap! We were up for days writing most of her material, and now we're millionaires! We still can't believe you bought those books by the thousands!"

Other than that I think that anything she says is an attempt to draw attention to her next book sale, which the wizards are working hard behind the curtain to finish.

guy44 · 04-18-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fourtyrulz

I think I might have said this in some other long obscure Coulter thread, but I (like Strange Famous) can't take her seriously. Mostly out of the fear that in 10 years a bunch of insiders will come out of the woodwork and admit that she was just a Kaufman-esque joke perpetrated by someone in the radical left, "I can't believe you guys actually listened to that crap! We were up for days writing most of her material, and now we're millionaires! We still can't believe you bought those books by the thousands!"

Other than that I think that anything she says is an attempt to draw attention to her next book sale, which the wizards are working hard behind the curtain to finish.

Exactly. I've suspected for years that she had a "pet rock" moment. She was sitting down in her trailer, thinking of get-rich-quick schemes, when she began to wonder if she could possibly be too wingnut. So she began writing progessively stupider books and eventually discovered that, in fact, people who watch Fox News do not have any known wingnut limit.

I doubt she really means like 95% of the truly idiotic stuff that she spews forth.

Manx · 04-18-2005, 02:09 PM

I wouldn't go so far as to believe she is a puppet of some kind of pop-journalism conspiracy group.

But I wouldn't be shocked in the least to find she is but a variation of a Gail Wynand figure: well aware of the absurdity of her persona, and well and satisfied with the profits associated with it. Whether there is anything deeper to her than that is both irrelevent to me and likely to never be known.

guy44 · 04-18-2005, 02:22 PM

I thought I'd assemble some of Ann's highlights, not because I think they are worthy of debate or outrage, but because they are genuinely entertaining:

From the incomparable Washington Monthly:

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"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."---Equal Time

"It's enough [to be impeached] for the president to be a pervert."---The Case Against Bill Clinton, Coulter's 1998 book.

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97

"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97

"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00

"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

"I think [Whitewater]'s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate."---Rivera Live 3/12/99

"My track record is pretty good on predictions."---Rivera Live 12/8/98

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97

"You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard."---Washington Post 10/16/98

From Media Matters:

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In establishing Coulter's bona fides as a serious person, Cloud notes that Coulter was a lawyer before becoming a commentator, explaining her "biggest case":

"And of course the biggest case Coulter ever helped handle as an attorney (she got her law degree from the University of Michigan in 1988) was a sexual-harassment claim of an unsophisticated woman against her powerful former boss. Coulter was one of a handful of informal legal advisers quietly helping Paula Jones, who had alleged in a 1994 lawsuit that she suffered distress and retaliation at her state job after refusing Arkansas Governor Clinton's request for oral sex in 1991. Coulter interviewed Jones and helped write her legal briefs."

Left out is one seemingly important detail: the case was dismissed for complete and total lack of merit. It was a glorified nuisance suit:

In a ruling that shocked both sides, U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright rejected all of Jones's claims stemming from her 1991 encounter with Clinton in a hotel suite. Even if Clinton did make a crude proposition, the judge concluded that it would not constitute sexual assault and that there was no proof Jones was emotionally afflicted or punished in the workplace for rebuffing him. "There are no genuine issues for trial in this case," she wrote.

Also left out is Coulter's admission that to her, the purpose of the case wasn't to serve Jones's interests, but rather "bringing down the President."

"Occasionally" coarse? A "little bit" of a polemicist? This about a "commentator" who claimed that the Democratic Party "supports killing, lying, adultery, thievery, envy"; who said of the idea that the American military were targeting journalists, "Would that it were so!"; who said President Clinton "was a very good rapist"; who insisted that "[l]iberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole"; who said that "I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days" to talk to liberals; who said it was lucky for former senator Max Cleland's political career that he lost an arm and two legs in Vietnam; who has said her "only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building"; and who wrote that the only real question about Bill Clinton was "whether to impeach or assassinate."

What, exactly, would it take for Time to declare that someone is "frequently" coarse?

Perhaps taking note of her threats against liberals would do it:

When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that [American Taliban supporter] John Walker [Lindh] is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors.

Perhaps it would ... if Time had seen fit to include the full quote instead of cutting it off after "intimidate liberals," thus excluding the portion of the quote in which she intimates that liberals should fear for their lives -- just as she suggested assassinating a sitting president, bemoaned Timothy McVeigh's decision not to murder employees of The New York Times, and wished aloud that reporters in Iraq would get shot.

Here are some quotes Cloud probably didn't have in mind when he wrote of Coulter's alleged "sensitivity":

* September 23, 2004: "I'm so pleased with my gender. We're not that bright."
* Same day: "Women, though they're not as bright, don't want to die any more than men."
* From How to Talk To a Liberal (If You Must): "The real reason I loathe and detest feminists is that real feminists, the core group, the Great Thinkers of the movement, which I had until now dismissed as the invention of a frat boy on a dare, have been at the forefront in tearing down the very institutions that protect women: monogamy, marriage, chastity, and chivalry. And surveying the wreckage, the best they have to offer is: 'Call me Ms.'"
* May 5, 2004: "I think the other point that no one is making about the [Abu Ghraib] abuse photos is just the disproportionate number of women involved, including a girl general running the entire operation. I mean, this is lesson, you know, one million and 47 on why women shouldn't be in the military. In addition to not being able to carry even a medium-sized backpack, women are too vicious."

Ilow · 04-18-2005, 02:48 PM

Nice collection Guy44. I think the cliche "you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator" applies to her. Conservatives like to say that she is their version of Michael Moore, but she's far more nuts.

jorgelito · 04-18-2005, 03:03 PM

In another thread someone thought she was an attractive lady. After seeing her picture I have no idea what they were talking about.

Isn't advocating violence or bodily harm against the law? As "funny" as her comments are, I'm amazed no one's sued her for libel or slander yet. Regardless of your political leanings, alot of her statements seem "erroneous". Isn't publiching falsehoods against the law.

You know, Mbwuto did have a point: Four bestsellers, a "hot seat" on Fox is pretty "influential". I want to know who's buying her books, that's the real question and that's scary. However, recognizing that she is influential doesn't mean you support her or agree with her politics, nor does it necessarily ascribe value to her "influence". The Pope is influential as is Howard Stern. You can make up your own mind there on the "differences".

The scary thing is, it appears there are many people who agree with her views.

Locobot · 04-18-2005, 05:23 PM

Ann Coulter could never dream of being as influential as Britney Spears, that's the truth in today's America. Make of it what you will.

please dont encourage Time by buying this issue here's the cover:

Really she's not that bad looking...a little duct tape over the mouth...

Willravel · 04-18-2005, 05:27 PM

I never looked at her in a Kaufman-esuq way. It's pretty funny!

F-18_Driver · 04-18-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Didn't Britney Spears have a NYT best seller? What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot?

Hillary and Bill, to name two. At least I THINK they hit #1 at some point.

F-18_Driver · 04-18-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilow

Nice collection Guy44. I think the cliche "you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator" applies to her. Conservatives like to say that she is their version of Michael Moore, but she's far more nuts.

I think the opposite. Ann spouts her opinions, which you can take or leave. Moore attempts to sway people by deception, i.e. dummying up his references by editing out of context, or outright lies.

I noticed someone said Ann was wrong about Canadian combat troops. If Michael Moore had been trying to make the same point, he'd have shown some film of Canadian troops marching, and claimed it was shot in Iraq.

I'd much rather deal with her opinions than Moore's lies.

KMA-628 · 04-18-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbwuto

I sincerely apologize for calling you insane. It was just your analogy that glimpsed the world through a lens of madness.

Love,

Mbwuto.

quit while you're behind....you're being an ass.

Locobot · 04-18-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by F-18_Driver

I think the opposite. Ann spouts her opinions, which you can take or leave. Moore attempts to sway people by deception, i.e. dummying up his references by editing out of context, or outright lies.

I noticed someone said Ann was wrong about Canadian combat troops. If Michael Moore had been trying to make the same point, he'd have shown some film of Canadian troops marching, and claimed it was shot in Iraq.

I'd much rather deal with her opinions than Moore's lies.

man, did you read guy44's post above? Moore's not entitled to an opinion? Moore might decide to eat ten babies over this Time cover... then again...some would say...

The Jolt · 04-18-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

A.) No, I don't agree
but, that aside...
B.) I'd be very interested in hearing your take on why women should not be given the vote.

Actually, my view on who should be given the vote is much more complicated than that. I think that the only ones who should be able to vote are the people who have to pay if the bill is passed.

Everyone should be able to vote electing representatives.
Only those who own property should be able to vote in local bond elections that result in a property tax increase.
and Only men should be able to vote in matters concerning war, because only men can get drafted and fight in the military.

I consider Ann's quote as a shorthand for this because ALL of the guys I know read the newspaper/know about current events, when only about half of the girls I know do.

Do you really want the fate of the world being decided by someone who won't drop 25 cents for a newspaper?

That said, all news is entertainment nowadays, and Ann is simply an entertainer. Don't give her anymore thought than that. Time would be better spent debating the issues rather than Ann, because the only person who will totally defend and agree with Ann Coulter is Ann Coulter.

guy44 · 04-18-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jolt

Actually, my view on who should be given the vote is much more complicated than that. I think that the only ones who should be able to vote are the people who have to pay if the bill is passed.

Everyone should be able to vote electing representatives.
Only those who own property should be able to vote in local bond elections that result in a property tax increase.
and Only men should be able to vote in matters concerning war, because only men can get drafted and fight in the military.

I consider Ann's quote as a shorthand for this because ALL of the guys I know read the newspaper/know about current events, when only about half of the girls I know do.

Do you really want the fate of the world being decided by someone who won't drop 25 cents for a newspaper?

*Draw drops in disbelief*

Did I ever mention that I love living in a country where the right to vote is pretty much unconditional?

04-18-2005, 10:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
raveneye Born Against	Ann Coulter on the cover of Time Magazine Time magazine this week has Ann Coulter on the cover, plus several articles and a photo essay about her: http://www.time.com/time/ Interestingly, the magazine appears to have been fooled by the G.O.P. satire group Communists for Kerry, taking it at face value in a photo caption. Is this a really, really slow news week? Who cares about the life of a third rate editorialist?

04-18-2005, 11:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I'm happy to see that the poll Time is running with regard to this cover (Does Ann Coulter make a positive contribution to American political culture?) shows that most people appear to know how worthless Ann really is: 76% of a quarter of a million people say no, she is not. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-18-2005, 11:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mbwuto Crazy	Time runs covers of interesting and influential people. Coulter, but barely, qualifies in that regard. She may be a third rate hack, but she gets star treatment by fox news. Besides most third rate journalists don't write best sellers. My favorite thing about her is that she makes ridiculous public statements and then tries to hide them under the hyperbole umbrella. __________________ - people who have fallen into solitary, half-mad grooves of life and given up trying to be normal or decent. George Orwell

04-18-2005, 11:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	I mean, look at this... is this real? Can we really believe that any ordinary American's follow someone who's publically says things like this?/ I cant take this seriously, because if she means it, and she actually has an audience... in the most advanced and wealthiest nation in the world... thats just too frightening __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

04-18-2005, 11:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mbwuto Crazy	Four books. Four new york times best sellers. __________________ - people who have fallen into solitary, half-mad grooves of life and given up trying to be normal or decent. George Orwell

04-18-2005, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Jolt Upright	I actually tend to agree with her, although she goes off the deep end every once in a while. "It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003 I think you'll agree that she at least got that right.

04-18-2005, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
RAGEAngel9 Insane Location: Vermont	What happened to her face? Or did time just pick the worst photos of her that they could find? Either way I think she's off her rocker.

04-18-2005, 11:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
The_Dunedan Junkie	She ( Coulter ) crunched some numbers, and concluded that absent the female vote the Republicans would have won every Presidential election for 50-odd years. It's lunacy, but what does one expect? She's the Michael Moore of the right; shrill, disingenuous, totally lacking in credibility, and a recurring PITA.

04-18-2005, 11:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I've seen magic 8 balls with better information than Anne Coulter. She has no buisness bing on the cover unless it reads: "Anne Coulter: Let's All Ignore Her from Now On, Okay?" or perhaps, "Dumbest Woman in America", or maybe "A Case for Deportation?".

04-18-2005, 12:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Didn't Britney Spears have a NYT best seller? What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot? Anne Coultier is like a zit. We pick at her because it bothers us, no reason beyond that. Some of us simply shrug and say it's a part of the world, but most of us only pay attention because it is a blemish.

04-18-2005, 12:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	I just watched a documentary the other night on CBC, had Ann Coulter on it arguing with a CBC reporter that Canada sent combat troops to Vietnam, sorry Ann but no go on that one Canada had troops as part of the ICC but not as combat troops. Here's a link to the CBC documentary I am referring to, there's a place at the top where you can stream the documentary if you choose to http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html Then she says that Canada is lucky the US lets us live on the same continent as them, and that Canada better hope the US doesn't roll over and squish us. Now this doesn't sound like a woman who has a grip on reality, I mean in a normal situation this whack job would be locked up where she belongs. This just shows how slow the news has been lately I guess when she gets a cover spot, I hate this woman, she should just go away. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

04-18-2005, 12:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Let's keep this respectful. Don't ever treat me with disrespect. Anne Coultier is to journalists as Jean Cladue Van Dam is to Shakepearien actors. She is nothing more than a big neon sign that means nothing. She attracts plenty of attention, thus all the book sales, fox news and column, but she is nothing of meaning. Her words are simply there for shock value. She is a slighhtly feminine Howard Stern. She is not here to help people or to report news or valid opinions. She is here to say "Look at me!! I'm crazy!!! Women are stupid and Canada is working with Iraq!! Please, look at me!!!!"

04-18-2005, 01:25 PM	#25 (permalink)
Pacifier undead Location: Duisburg, Germany	poor Ms. Coulter seems not to be too happy with her picture: COULTER RIPS MAG PHOTO 'DISTORTION' http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3act.htm Well a distorted picture fits her distorted views. __________________ "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death — Albert Einstein

04-18-2005, 01:26 PM	#26 (permalink)
Mbwuto Crazy	I sincerely apologize for calling you insane. It was just your analogy that glimpsed the world through a lens of madness. Love, Mbwuto. __________________ - people who have fallen into solitary, half-mad grooves of life and given up trying to be normal or decent. George Orwell

04-18-2005, 01:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
Fourtyrulz Psycho Location: io-where?	I think I might have said this in some other long obscure Coulter thread, but I (like Strange Famous) can't take her seriously. Mostly out of the fear that in 10 years a bunch of insiders will come out of the woodwork and admit that she was just a Kaufman-esque joke perpetrated by someone in the radical left, "I can't believe you guys actually listened to that crap! We were up for days writing most of her material, and now we're millionaires! We still can't believe you bought those books by the thousands!" Other than that I think that anything she says is an attempt to draw attention to her next book sale, which the wizards are working hard behind the curtain to finish. __________________ the·o·ry - a working hypothesis that is considered probable based on experimental evidence or factual or conceptual analysis and is accepted as a basis for experimentation. faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. - Merriam-Webster's dictionary

04-18-2005, 02:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
Manx Loser	I wouldn't go so far as to believe she is a puppet of some kind of pop-journalism conspiracy group. But I wouldn't be shocked in the least to find she is but a variation of a Gail Wynand figure: well aware of the absurdity of her persona, and well and satisfied with the profits associated with it. Whether there is anything deeper to her than that is both irrelevent to me and likely to never be known.

04-18-2005, 02:48 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ilow Junkie Location: Pats country	Nice collection Guy44. I think the cliche "you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator" applies to her. Conservatives like to say that she is their version of Michael Moore, but she's far more nuts. __________________ "Religion is the one area of our discourse in which it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about things no human being could possibly be certain about" --Sam Harris

04-18-2005, 03:03 PM	#32 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	In another thread someone thought she was an attractive lady. After seeing her picture I have no idea what they were talking about. Isn't advocating violence or bodily harm against the law? As "funny" as her comments are, I'm amazed no one's sued her for libel or slander yet. Regardless of your political leanings, alot of her statements seem "erroneous". Isn't publiching falsehoods against the law. You know, Mbwuto did have a point: Four bestsellers, a "hot seat" on Fox is pretty "influential". I want to know who's buying her books, that's the real question and that's scary. However, recognizing that she is influential doesn't mean you support her or agree with her politics, nor does it necessarily ascribe value to her "influence". The Pope is influential as is Howard Stern. You can make up your own mind there on the "differences". The scary thing is, it appears there are many people who agree with her views.

04-18-2005, 05:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	Ann Coulter could never dream of being as influential as Britney Spears, that's the truth in today's America. Make of it what you will. please dont encourage Time by buying this issue here's the cover: Really she's not that bad looking...a little duct tape over the mouth... Last edited by Locobot; 04-18-2005 at 05:27 PM..

04-18-2005, 05:27 PM	#34 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I never looked at her in a Kaufman-esuq way. It's pretty funny!