raveneye

Time magazine this week has Ann Coulter on the cover, plus several articles and a photo essay about her:

http://www.time.com/time/

Interestingly, the magazine appears to have been fooled by the G.O.P. satire group Communists for Kerry, taking it at face value in a photo caption.

Is this a really, really slow news week? Who cares about the life of a third rate editorialist?

The Jolt

I actually tend to agree with her, although she goes off the deep end every once in a while.

"It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact." - Ann Coulter, May 17, 2003

I think you'll agree that she at least got that right.

RAGEAngel9

What happened to her face?
Or did time just pick the worst photos of her that they could find?
Either way I think she's off her rocker.

Kadath

I'm happy to see that the poll Time is running with regard to this cover (Does Ann Coulter make a positive contribution to American political culture?) shows that most people appear to know how worthless Ann really is: 76% of a quarter of a million people say no, she is not.

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Bill O'Rights

A.) No, I don't agree
but, that aside...
B.) I'd be very interested in hearing your take on why women should not be given the vote.

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The_Dunedan

She ( Coulter ) crunched some numbers, and concluded that absent the female vote the Republicans would have won every Presidential election for 50-odd years. It's lunacy, but what does one expect? She's the Michael Moore of the right; shrill, disingenuous, totally lacking in credibility, and a recurring PITA.

Mbwuto

Time runs covers of interesting and influential people. Coulter, but barely, qualifies in that regard. She may be a third rate hack, but she gets star treatment by fox news. Besides most third rate journalists don't write best sellers.

My favorite thing about her is that she makes ridiculous public statements and then tries to hide them under the hyperbole umbrella.

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Willravel

I've seen magic 8 balls with better information than Anne Coulter. She has no buisness bing on the cover unless it reads: "Anne Coulter: Let's All Ignore Her from Now On, Okay?" or perhaps, "Dumbest Woman in America", or maybe "A Case for Deportation?".

Strange Famous

No, thats just silly. I can only assume you are just saying something to try and get a reaction out of people.

As for Ann Coulter, I never quite worked out if she was for real, or she is a satire (like The Onion or something) ... cos she seems like she means it, but then she just comes out with things that you think "no way"... I dont know, does anyone genuinely follow this women?

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Mbwuto

That seems to be everyone's attitude with no regard to the influence she actually wields. The left has Michael Moore. A fat, simpering, dramatic bag of fat. So the Right rolls out a tall, thin, blonde with the same tactics and a different message. Her books sell. You can ignore the ho-bag all day long but a lot of people don't.

What's up with those freaky long and thin hands though?

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Strange Famous

I mean, look at this... is this real? Can we really believe that any ordinary American's follow someone who's publically says things like this?/

I cant take this seriously, because if she means it, and she actually has an audience... in the most advanced and wealthiest nation in the world... thats just too frightening

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Mbwuto

Four books. Four new york times best sellers.

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raveneye

She's interesting in a clinical sense, yes. But in any other sense, not that I can see.

Willravel

Didn't Britney Spears have a NYT best seller? What about the wrestler Mankind? How many shmucks with zero respectabilit have gotten to the #1 spot?

Anne Coultier is like a zit. We pick at her because it bothers us, no reason beyond that. Some of us simply shrug and say it's a part of the world, but most of us only pay attention because it is a blemish.

Mbwuto

You're right. How could I ever imply that a woman with four bestsellers, a syndicated column, and a running gig on fox news, was influential..or even *gasp* interesting despite her idiotic politics.

You? Millions of people buying her books?

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silent_jay

I just watched a documentary the other night on CBC, had Ann Coulter on it arguing with a CBC reporter that Canada sent combat troops to Vietnam, sorry Ann but no go on that one Canada had troops as part of the ICC but not as combat troops.

Here's a link to the CBC documentary I am referring to, there's a place at the top where you can stream the documentary if you choose to http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/sticksandstones.html

Then she says that Canada is lucky the US lets us live on the same continent as them, and that Canada better hope the US doesn't roll over and squish us. Now this doesn't sound like a woman who has a grip on reality, I mean in a normal situation this whack job would be locked up where she belongs.

This just shows how slow the news has been lately I guess when she gets a cover spot, I hate this woman, she should just go away.

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Willravel

Brisney Spears is influential. Arguabally more influential than Anne. That doens't mean people respect her. That doesn't give her words meaning.

Mbwuto

What world of madness do you inhabit? Do you always find it hard to distinguish between teen pop stars(who really don't have any influence these days, and when they did managed to solely exert it over the spending habits of teenagers) and journalists? But don't let me stop your crazy train.

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Willravel

Let's keep this respectful. Don't ever treat me with disrespect.

Anne Coultier is to journalists as Jean Cladue Van Dam is to Shakepearien actors. She is nothing more than a big neon sign that means nothing. She attracts plenty of attention, thus all the book sales, fox news and column, but she is nothing of meaning. Her words are simply there for shock value. She is a slighhtly feminine Howard Stern. She is not here to help people or to report news or valid opinions. She is here to say "Look at me!! I'm crazy!!! Women are stupid and Canada is working with Iraq!! Please, look at me!!!!"

Mbwuto

Notice that I never disagreed(in spirit) with your last paragraph. I even stated myself that she's a loony. But she's a loony that people listen to. The only issue I with this entire thread was that people were implying Right and Left that she was was inconsequential to the the current political climate.

And I'll sass you as much as I goddamn please. At least when your analogies are way off base.

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Pacifier

I respect Mankind much more than Coulter

But I'm also not sure if she is for real. I wouldn't be surprised if she uses such idiotic statements to be in the spotlight.

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silent_jay

Maybe take a wee little read of this before you decide you're going to sass someone as much as you please. The TFP doesn't work like that we respect all members here and "sass" isn't tolerated.
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/announcement.php?f=5

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Willravel

Are you sure people listen to her? Are you sure she isn't just another sideshow? If people listen to her, I feel great pity for those people. I sincerly hope that no one takes her seriously, becuase I don't theink she takes her media persona seriously. It's much like the rest of fox news: a reality tv show intended to entertain (or possibly misinform), not inform.
I'm sorry, but you don't have that right. Please read the TFP guidelines and policies if you need clarification. You can attack my analogies, but not my person. There is a huge difference. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

Lebell

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Pacifier

poor Ms. Coulter seems not to be too happy with her picture:
COULTER RIPS MAG PHOTO 'DISTORTION'
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3act.htm

Well a distorted picture fits her distorted views.

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Mbwuto

I sincerely apologize for calling you insane. It was just your analogy that glimpsed the world through a lens of madness.

Love,

Mbwuto.

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Fourtyrulz

I think I might have said this in some other long obscure Coulter thread, but I (like Strange Famous) can't take her seriously. Mostly out of the fear that in 10 years a bunch of insiders will come out of the woodwork and admit that she was just a Kaufman-esque joke perpetrated by someone in the radical left, "I can't believe you guys actually listened to that crap! We were up for days writing most of her material, and now we're millionaires! We still can't believe you bought those books by the thousands!"

Other than that I think that anything she says is an attempt to draw attention to her next book sale, which the wizards are working hard behind the curtain to finish.

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guy44

Exactly. I've suspected for years that she had a "pet rock" moment. She was sitting down in her trailer, thinking of get-rich-quick schemes, when she began to wonder if she could possibly be too wingnut. So she began writing progessively stupider books and eventually discovered that, in fact, people who watch Fox News do not have any known wingnut limit.

I doubt she really means like 95% of the truly idiotic stuff that she spews forth.

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Manx

I wouldn't go so far as to believe she is a puppet of some kind of pop-journalism conspiracy group.

But I wouldn't be shocked in the least to find she is but a variation of a Gail Wynand figure: well aware of the absurdity of her persona, and well and satisfied with the profits associated with it. Whether there is anything deeper to her than that is both irrelevent to me and likely to never be known.

guy44

I thought I'd assemble some of Ann's highlights, not because I think they are worthy of debate or outrage, but because they are genuinely entertaining:

From the incomparable Washington Monthly:
From Media Matters:

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Ilow

Nice collection Guy44. I think the cliche "you never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator" applies to her. Conservatives like to say that she is their version of Michael Moore, but she's far more nuts.

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jorgelito

In another thread someone thought she was an attractive lady. After seeing her picture I have no idea what they were talking about.

Isn't advocating violence or bodily harm against the law? As "funny" as her comments are, I'm amazed no one's sued her for libel or slander yet. Regardless of your political leanings, alot of her statements seem "erroneous". Isn't publiching falsehoods against the law.

You know, Mbwuto did have a point: Four bestsellers, a "hot seat" on Fox is pretty "influential". I want to know who's buying her books, that's the real question and that's scary. However, recognizing that she is influential doesn't mean you support her or agree with her politics, nor does it necessarily ascribe value to her "influence". The Pope is influential as is Howard Stern. You can make up your own mind there on the "differences".

The scary thing is, it appears there are many people who agree with her views.

Locobot

Ann Coulter could never dream of being as influential as Britney Spears, that's the truth in today's America. Make of it what you will.


please dont encourage Time by buying this issue here's the cover:



Really she's not that bad looking...a little duct tape over the mouth...

Willravel

I never looked at her in a Kaufman-esuq way. It's pretty funny!

F-18_Driver

Hillary and Bill, to name two. At least I THINK they hit #1 at some point.

F-18_Driver

I think the opposite. Ann spouts her opinions, which you can take or leave. Moore attempts to sway people by deception, i.e. dummying up his references by editing out of context, or outright lies.

I noticed someone said Ann was wrong about Canadian combat troops. If Michael Moore had been trying to make the same point, he'd have shown some film of Canadian troops marching, and claimed it was shot in Iraq.

I'd much rather deal with her opinions than Moore's lies.

KMA-628

quit while you're behind....you're being an ass.

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Locobot

man, did you read guy44's post above? Moore's not entitled to an opinion? Moore might decide to eat ten babies over this Time cover... then again...some would say...

The Jolt

Actually, my view on who should be given the vote is much more complicated than that. I think that the only ones who should be able to vote are the people who have to pay if the bill is passed.

Everyone should be able to vote electing representatives.
Only those who own property should be able to vote in local bond elections that result in a property tax increase.
and Only men should be able to vote in matters concerning war, because only men can get drafted and fight in the military.

I consider Ann's quote as a shorthand for this because ALL of the guys I know read the newspaper/know about current events, when only about half of the girls I know do.

Do you really want the fate of the world being decided by someone who won't drop 25 cents for a newspaper?

That said, all news is entertainment nowadays, and Ann is simply an entertainer. Don't give her anymore thought than that. Time would be better spent debating the issues rather than Ann, because the only person who will totally defend and agree with Ann Coulter is Ann Coulter.

guy44

*Draw drops in disbelief*

Did I ever mention that I love living in a country where the right to vote is pretty much unconditional?

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