Bill O'Reilly.

[Kadath]

I'm sitting here watching a rebroadcast of a show he did earlier(at least, I can only assume it was earlier.)
O'Reilly does nothing but obfuscate and override. When he is allowed his own commentary, he misrepresents the situation and makes assumptions that no one can call him on. In debate, he shouts down his opponents(in this case, the editor of The Progressive) when they disagree, and when they bring up valid points he says "Come on" or "You know what I'm talking about," as if they are being unreasonable. At one point Rothschild(the editor) pointed out that many homosexual Americans, attacked during Bennett's role in the "Culture Wars" of the '80s and '90s, would be understandably happy to see him get his comeuppance(re: his gambling). Eventually O'Reilly made the statement that a homosexual couple should not be walking down the street kissing or holding hands because "you don't want to ruin a child's whole childhood by explaining [that]." He then said, by way of covering his ass, that you wouldn't want to see inappropriate sexual behavior from hetero or homosexual couples. Rothschild asked him if it would be inappropriate for a heterosexual couple to walk down the street holding hands, to which O'Reilly responded, in top form "Come on, you know what I'm talking about."
How can anyone consider this man informed or intelligent? It is not his politics that offend me, but his behavior and way of dealing with people who disagree with him. He is dismissive, insulting, outright rude. He is not a respectable person in any way.

[WhoaitsZ]

Bill O'Reilly is a nazi who claims to have morals with Fox News political views.

I'd as soon burst my own ear drums before listening to his hypocritical rants and burn my eyes out before seeing him act.

i've always been taught to not hate, but he's getting awfully close. i cannot stand him.

[Simple_Min]

Is he/was he a correspondent or a anchor man for Fox? I have only read his hipocritical "moral" mumbo jumbo but I have no idea what he sounds like.

I should be so glad, according to Z above.

[sixate]

Originally posted by Kadath
He is dismissive, insulting, outright rude.

Or people like me call that telling it the way it is and not sugar coating things for people. That's why I like him. He's part entertainer too. Don't forget that.

[Phaenx]

I think the reason why most liberals hate him is because he's right, and they're wrong. Ho, ho, ho.

[Kadath]

Originally posted by sixate
Or people like me call that telling it the way it is and not sugar coating things for people. That's why I like him. He's part entertainer too. Don't forget that.

So then you're okay with entertainers being part political commentators, right?

[ToiletDuck]

Originally posted by Kadath
So then you're okay with entertainers being part political commentators, right?

Why not? we had 8 years of Clinton playing the saxaphone and smoking his "scented" cigars in the oval office. That made him an entertainer and part president.

[TaLoN]

yes what sixate said is very true. O'Reilly is harsh with words and we need more people like him.

[seretogis]

O'Reilly reminds me a lot of Jesse Ventura (our former governor). He says a lot of things that should be said more often, but he doesn't deserve to say them.

[sixate]

Originally posted by Kadath
So then you're okay with entertainers being part political commentators, right?

Aren't all politicians entertainers in some way? I think so. O'Reilly isn't even a politician. He's a talk show host. That is considered entertainment, right?

[Kadath]

Originally posted by sixate
Aren't all politicians entertainers in some way? I think so. O'Reilly isn't even a politician. He's a talk show host. That is considered entertainment, right?

I didn't say anything about politicians. Ever. Political commentators. I was more referring to people such as the Dixie Chicks, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Madonna...

[sixate]

Originally posted by Kadath
I didn't say anything about politicians. Ever. Political commentators. I was more referring to people such as the Dixie Chicks, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Madonna...

Oh, I misunderstood you. They can say whatever they want, but they need to realize that people can bash them too. For example, I've never understood why famous people bash the president and feel that they aren't open for a bashing by bigmouth people like me. I think it's all the same. It's no different than people disagreeing with my opinions and I don't have a problem with that.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally posted by Kadath
How can anyone consider this man informed or intelligent? It is not his politics that offend me, but his behavior and way of dealing with people who disagree with him. He is dismissive, insulting, and outright rude. He is not a respectable person in any way.

I don’t know if contradict is the word and is probably a little harsh because your just stating your opinion, but you ask how anyone can consider him informed or intelligent and yet while you don’t say you disagree with his politics. His demeanor doesn’t factor into how informed he is, because Vie seen him pull out facts in hard copy that have validity few can dispute.
IMO allot of people I know (including myself in the past) have grown accustomed to fake conversations. A small example that may illustrate: You were talking to someone you only consider an acquaintance; upon parting one of you makes the statement "Hey give me a call" when you actually prefer not to. The other responds "OK" knowing that they aren’t going to call. Person A knows person B is bullshiting and person B knows person A knows they're bullshiting and yet they go through the conversation anyway. Political correctness, the fear of confrontation, ass kissing, etc are all forms of fake conversations. Bill doesnt have them and usually wont allow them. Alot of people when called on their shit will take it as being rude. I just think it’s what alot of us have grown accustomed to. The ones he’s rude to usually say things that are apparently bullshit, but no one around them calls them on. So he’s doing them a favor. I’m not stating that here because I don’t want to get into the argument he was having with Rothschild I think that subject is a little to heated for this forum, maybe that’s why I've never seen it posted here. I don’t watch him every night, but the times I do watch I find entertaining.

[seretogis]

Originally posted by Kadath
I was more referring to people such as the Dixie Chicks, [..], Madonna...

I wouldn't go so far as to describe those two as political commentators. Perhaps mindless bandwagon jumpers would be more appropriate. In interviews with both Madonna and the Dixie Chicks, they never seemed to understand the reason for controversy in their "statements".

[Kadath]

Originally posted by seretogis
I wouldn't go so far as to describe those two as political commentators. Perhaps mindless bandwagon jumpers would be more appropriate. In interviews with both Madonna and the Dixie Chicks, they never seemed to understand the reason for controversy in their "statements".

Indeed. The "be cast as anti-American and be openly threatened with reprisal" bandwagon sure is a popular one to jump on these days...

[WhoaitsZ]

if i knew that there was an Anti-Christ on eartth and i had to meet him or BoR i'd meet the anti-christ

and i'm a Christian.

truly, I simply can't overstate the ammount of animosity I hold for the guy.

hell. i love carrot-top more!

[Nomad]

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
if i knew that there was an Anti-Christ on eartth and i had to meet him or BoR i'd meet the anti-christ

and i'm a Christian.

truly, I simply can't overstate the ammount of animosity I hold for the guy.

hell. i love carrot-top more!

WOW ... That's something I thought I would never see, A Christian that hates Bill O'Reilly.

Your a good person WhoaitsZ, I wish more of my Christian friends were like you.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/shut-up.html

[Macheath]

I remember watching an O'Reilly where he had some PhD author on. Basically he laid a really "damning" sociological statistic on the author.

Funniest thing was the author was familiar with the statistic and proceeded to address the stat and why it didn't refute his argument. When he finished, Bill basically says "well that's all well and good but what about THIS statistic."

He then laid down a second somewhat more irrelevant statistic which he again presented as "damning" of his opponent's case.

I think he has them all on teleprompter from studio researchers - he can keep going until he comes up with a stat or case study you're not familiar with and then BANG you're instantly made to look ill-informed. You may be a Nobel Prize winner, but at that moment you may as well be Homer Simpson.

It'd be like an argument in Tilted Politics where one person has access to Lexis-Nexis and Google and the other person is allowed to consult their pet goldfish.

I could imagine him arguing with some savant or human computer, reeling through stats until he finds one they're not familiar with. It'd end up something like "Well sir why did you neglect to mention the average rainfall of Guatemala circa 1967 in your book on teen pregnancy in New York - it does make it look as if your glossing over (sorry *spinning*) what's really going on here, doesn't it."

[The_Dude]

fox just has him for his ratings, his views are way too extreme and he's too arrogant to be on tv.

[Cynthetiq]

Originally posted by The_Dude
fox just has him for his ratings, his views are way too extreme and he's too arrogant to be on tv.

he started on Hard Copy and blew up that spot really well. He's got his days where he can seem tyranical, but I can say that he's a nice man. He lives a couple of towns over from me.