Bush or Kerry? Poll. Who are your going to vote for?
 

So who's it gonna be. Just a quick poll. Who are your going to vote for? If you would like to add "why" please do so.

Shall we guess on the outcome of this poll?

I'll say 57% for Kerry and 43% for Bush.

Anyone else want to offer a forecast? (And saying it will be shut down after 14 posts is not the kind of guess I'm talking about! ;))

are we voting on who we think will win, or who we plan to vote for?

I read it as who we plan to vote for.

k, i will also...

they're one in the same for me... but i just wanted to clarify for those who think otherwise.

The shame of it is that these are the only viable choices. My vote is more anti-Bush than pro-Kerry.

I agree that it is a shame that they are our only two choices. I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I'm going to start a new thread and open up the field to any candidate.

Pick who you would most likley vote for. Sorry about that

Not much of a surprise to anyone who reads my posts, but I am voting for and campaigning for Senator Kerry. I am voting for him because I genuinely think he will be a good President, who will surprise many at the centrist path he will take in the White House, and because I think Bush is average at best as far as Presidents go, and I disagree with a great many of his policies.

edit/ I also wanted to say that onetime2 is probably right on the money about how this vote will turn out. But I think we should do a new poll each month to see how things change or don't change.

Those not in the USA should abstain from voting I guess?

What if we plan on voting in your election, but aren't American citizens? ;-)

Bush scares the hell out of me.....Gotta go with Kerry

My thoughts exactly. Even use the same words I was about to use. *jinx*:p

Im going to vote for kerry. Lesser of two evils i think. even though i would like to see a libertarian president....

Move to Miami or Chicago.

Bush.

Sad to say that it will boil down to A.B.B. for me.
And no, I'm not a Democrat. I just don't like where Bush is taking us.

don't like either candidate but like bush a whole lot less so it's kerry.

Anyone who bothered to research the candidates back in 2000 knows Bush's history of completely fucking up anything given to him through family connections, yet personally gaining financially in spite of his mismanagement - from oil companies to the State of Texas to the United States of America - the man has not surprised me a bit - he has a consistent history of failures. That's why I'll vote for his opponent <i>again.</i>, although living in Texas, it won't mean much. Why all these "Proud Texans" will vote for a Connecticut Yankee is beyond me, but they will.

Neither. I am going to vote for Ralph Nader. Here's why. I may be a registered Republican, but I, for one, am sick of GW. If a different Republican were to run, I might vote for him, but its a bit late for that isn't it. So, do I vote for Kerry? Heck no. I am not in any way convinced that Kerry will do any better a job than GW. If you look at some of the recent polls you will see that I am not alone. The majority of people are dissatisfied with Bush's handling of the war. HOWEVER, the polls are practically 50/50 between Bush and Kerry. This means, although they don't like Bush, people don't see a reason to shift their vote to Kerry. So why Nader? Well, for one thing, he doesn't to belong to any party these days. That means, in my mind, that he is more apt to vote as he feels as opposed to how somebody else tells him to feel. Also, having browsed his website (http://www.votenader.com), I like some of his stances. I am particularly hopeful about his mass media reform policies. However, I am not so blind as to see that the US is not quite ready for an independant candidate to win, but if nobody votes for them now, there will never be a victorious independant candidate.

When did we stop voting for the best candidate and start voting for the candidate who will do the least damage?

I think that we've been heading down that path for years now.

Frankly, Kerry bores me. He shows me nothing, in the way of true leadership. But, on the other hand, Bush scares the hell out of me. No...let me correct that. Bush's administration scares the hell out of me. Until we, in the Libertarian Party, gain more ground, and become more of a viable option, I cannot, in good conscience, risk allowing my vote to perpetuate the current administration, for another four years. So, for now, Kerry it is.

By the way, I've added a couple of choices to the poll, to better serve our members. ;)

I also think that in light of the current trend of voting "anti-Bush"...this poll may go hand in hand with it

Two Important Items of Note:

1. Anyone who is proud that they do not vote, please don't bitch about politics next year, as you are NOT doing your civil duty as a free American. Only fools are proud of non-particiation.

2. We all know why the Bush Family hangs out in Texas - No State Taxes and Dub actually thinks he sounds "edumacated" as far less Texans 'per capita' catch or rather, are clued-in to all his dreadfully embarrassing "bushisms". (yeah, lower case on purpose...) We are an International one-line joke these days.


ABBA - ANYONE But Bush Again.

I'm pleased to be able to support the reelection of a great man and a great President.

I'll be voting for George Bush.

Well, it's only been a few days, but you're off a bit so far. I guess TFP IS liberal....or at least tired of Bush.

I suspect there just aren't as many people coming to politics anymore (and perhaps the "conservative exodus" is still in effect). We'll see how it shakes out when people stop voting.

voting appears to have either slowed to a near-stop or has averaged itself out...

you can count on Bush taking 45-52% percent of the electorate (allowing for a small presence of a 3rd party candidate) and kerry taking the balance whether that be more or less.

but here on tfp, Bush is getting less than half of what he would get in the general election. if you're looking at this statistically, that is a HUGE deviance fromt the rest of the population.

this doesn't take into account how many people foreign to the US that voted, i'm sure that would skew the poll quite a bit.

but, it's not like this surprises many people.

No doubt our little community is far from representative of the country as a whole. My estimate was based on the skew I see here at TFP Politics on a daily basis.

As opposed to the last time when we got the evil of two lessers...

Kerry, I vote for a return to honesty and truth in the white house. I just don't trust Bush's intelligence or his staff.

Wow, everyone is so Democratic. Heh.

I will not vote for Bush, and I don't wanna vote for Nader or whoever is Independent.

the only faith I have in bush is that he'll continue his aggressive actions against the will of our allies and the rest of the world, ignore our economic situation and hope it corrects itself, and ignore the environmentalist concerns that are only going to get more serious in the next decade.

I can count on him to do his best to chip away at a woman's right to choose.

I can also count on him to force a lot of qualified people to lose their jobs (I'm talking about teaching assistants and aides) because they don't have a college education thanks to no child left behind.
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I can count on kerry to sit on the fence for as long as possible to try and offend as few people as possible. I don't particularly like him, or his politics. He's just another talker, hoping people will think "well, he's NOT bush..."

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Ralph Nader will NEVER win an election. And I doubt any third-party candidate will become president in my lifetime.

I'm having serious doubts about the whole electoral process and the validity of anything that comes out of a politician's mouth (on camera)... I'm not sure if i want to be a part of this next election.

I shall abstain from voting on this poll to begin with.

I just like bush, I liked his dad too but his dad only had one term so I think he will too.

John Adams

Hehe, I like that answer Tophat.

I personally am not sure who I will vote for. All I know if Bush will damn near kill us economically. Kerry has not impressed me in the least, can't make up his mind, and seems far too liberal for me.

Guess that leaves some third-party candidate that won't win.

just because I do not know many people on here, I am curious how many people are over 40 and voting for kerry.

2,987,466,827 people over forty are voting for Kerry....oops just lost one. Oh....gained three...............

Damn,

I could have written that, word for word.

I will be voting Bush, but reluctantly.

KHAN!!!!!

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I'm in a lackadaisical mood today...in case you couldn't tell

I can tell :D

bush.......kerry is just a joke.....i would vote demo but kerry has nothing to bring to the table......

last election i did not vote for bush....but this one he gets my vote by default

even stern who supports kerry hard core.....because of the whole fcc thing hasnt said anything good about kerry other than he isnt bush

I believe in voting early and often. The more times you vote for your man, the better chance he has to win.

I'll vote against Bush. Right now, that means Kerry. I'd prefer a better option.

Good enough reason for me.

I swear, I read someone in another thread say no one around here supported Kerry. Guess they were wrong.

well it isnt a good enought reason for me....


i think bush has done a good job the last 4 years....


i think he could have done better ...but im not gonna vote for someone who has nothing to bring to the table just because i dont agree with the current president....

i mean he handled this war as good as can be expected

the economy is heading up steadily....


under the bush......i got two jobs...left the first one for more money at my current.......


and am in the process of purchasing my first house......

I didn't say Bush didn't do a good job, I never said that. He's done things I don't think anyone could have expected.

However, the way he handled the war so far is acceptable? Yeah, I suppose, to some people. I think it's ludicris to call it acceptable. The whole situation there is out of control. Not that it's not expected to have a little turmoil. It is a war.

I just think the entire Bush administration sucks. Not that any other politician would, but I just don't think he's been 100% honest with himself, or the American people, or the members of congress funding this freak show.

oops double post blah

The rumor is indeed true. No one wants to vote for Kerry, just against the President for their perception of his job at this point of his administration that has been filtered through the media they choose to follow. Actually I feel bad for Kerry, no one "wants" to vote for him.

Don't feel that badly. More people wanted Davis out than wanted Schwarzenegger in, and he got elected. Sometimes being the lesser of two evils is all it takes. I don't think it's that I don't want Kerry. It's that I dislike Bush so very much more than I want Kerry that it's ceased to become an issue. I don't dislike Bush because I think he's doing a bad job. I dislike him because I disagree with just about every one of his beliefs.

Ditto. I like Kerry, I just don't love him. But I really, really, really dislike Bush. As I said before, if a potted plant was electable, I would be voting for it against Bush. :)

I like potted plants.

I'm another 40+ GWB fan. Finally, we have a president with a moral compass that actually does what he says he is going to do.

I'm voting for Bush. That being said, I don't really like Bush all that much. I would never vote for a liberal because they push for increasing amounts of government control over the every day functions of society and private citizens. Eventually, they will try to turn us all into subjects. Laugh now, cry later. Also, I like what Bush has done in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as turning the economy around after Clinton's blundering.

Uhhh, apparently no one reads my posts - much saddness I am ignored :(

Actually, I am pro Kerry, I even volunteered for him during the Arizona primaries and will do so again this summer and leading up to the general election.

*cough* DHS *cough*

I will be voting for Bush, and dancing at the inaugural ball, just like last time.

I would love to see a good libritarian though.

I'm shocked at how many people are actually willing to vote for Kerry. This is the same man who wants to turn our national security over to the UN Security Council... yes, the same group that was nice and comfy in Saddam's back pocket taking billions of bribes in the oil-for-food scandal. Kerry wants to entrust America's safety to those goons? No thanks.

People get angry at Bush for Iraq, and I can understand that, but when those same people start claiming that he should have done more before 9-11, I have to do a double take. Action in Iraq is preventing the next 9-11, and it's part of a larger strategy that will eliminate terrorists at their roots.

Bush all the way.

I'd have to say Kerry.

I dislike Bush. I voted for him the first time because his platform was a lot better than Gore's, however, he hasn't really done anything positive for this country. He's simply too scary to have in power. I don't mean that we should turtle ourselves in our country, but goddamn Bush is going about things the WRONG way.

He has to be the most hated leader in allf the world right now, and there's a reason for it.

Voting anything other than the primary two is just a waste of a vote. 3rd party will NOT win. I know we'd like to think the possibility is there, but let's face the facts here.. it's not gonna happen. I'm willing to bet my next year's worth of paychecks on that one, too. Anyone care to bet? ;)

If you're voting for Nader, you might as well not vote at all, because the winner will be either Bush or Kerry. If you don't like those two choices, by all means, don't just throw your vote away. You have a chance in swaying the outcome.

The chasm between your worldview and mine should be properly named the Grand Canyon.

I'm voting for John Kerry, because he will bring dignity and honor back to the White House.

I'm voting kerry because i think four years of a lame duck bush would truly be a frightening thing.

I wish there was a better 3rd option. OK so I'm not American.... but the choice is not a great one. However... I don't understand how anyone could vote for Bush after what he's done.

see...i see the republican party as exerting more control over private lives, monitoring what you're doing, becoming 'Big brother,' if you will...
Also, i consider the clinton economic status to be pretty high, i was making great money for a college student, was able to work for a new business that popped up, ate out, had money, school was doing much better, budget cuts weren't happening as often as have since 2001, etc.
republicans wtih the war on drugs, war on terror, pornography, music, everything seems so determined to make everyone follow a certain rule. Gay rights? Choice? Certain parts of the patriot act? And this is the party that is supposed to stay out of personal lives?

Easiest question I've been asked in years!

"Libertarian president?" Can that exist? :p No offense, of course.

Well, consider that GW is an incumbent... so that "50/50" is more like "50/25/25 who just vote incumbent 'because he's doing a good job' " :p

And while I agree on principle with voting independent or Green, I just don't see a third party candidate EVER becoming president with our current system. Sorry. Maybe I'm jaded. Heh.

Does what he says he is going to do? "We WILL find weapons of mass destruction." (among others...) Sorry, I'm not convinced.

Also, when doing what you say you're going to do means ignoring the will of the general populace... is that a GOOD thing? Er.

Kerry. Bush wants to turn this country into a theocracy. Scary.

I expect to vote for Bush. I don't care for much of the Democratic party agenda and don't like what I've read about Kerry's absentee record in Congress or his flip flops on issues.

So whay exactly do you think the democratic party agenda is? Big govt? How could you increase the size of govt. more than Bush has? Tax and spend? Worse than borrow and spend? Big brother? C'mon now, you claiming that Bush has increased you personal liberties and freedoms?

No really. What do you think the Dem. agenda is?


I'll vote Kerry because Bush's moral compass is being warped by the neo-cons and that's just SCARY. I mean it. I'm scared for my country, it's going the wrong way. Bush was voted in to office as a moderate republican. Along the way he has turned into a radical, not holding republican views anymore. Where is his mandate from the public for turning the country so sharply? He wasn't even voted in by a majority. And that's why he has to go.

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My view is Democrats favor welfare entitlement programs and programs such as affirmative action. Granted, they have gotten better with welfare programs, but not enough for me.