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Locobot 05-22-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moosenose
spread that f***er's legs WIDE. We need that oil. And who gives a crap about a few thousand acres of popsickle? It's not like it's a mangrove swamp or something....

If I wasn't accustomed to your "style" moosenose I would think this was satire. Do you really think introducing rape imagery will help your cause?

Willravel 05-23-2005 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Locobot
If I wasn't accustomed to your "style" moosenose I would think this was satire. Do you really think introducing rape imagery will help your cause?

It will help his cause if he is trying to convince the 'rapist' vote. Otherwise, he is doing a wonderful job of oversimplifying his argument and alienating his readers.

Leave the legs alone. We don't need that oil. A lot of people 'give a crap' about that land.

moosenose 05-23-2005 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
A lot of people 'give a crap' about that land.

Have you ever been to the area in question? Hell, for that matter, have you ever been up to your ass in alligators in a mangrove swamp???

There are people who are "buying property" on the MOON. As the saying goes: "A fool and his money are soon partying."

As for the environmental argument: I refer you to Denis Leary's "No cure for cancer" performance. He said it far better than I can...

Willravel 05-23-2005 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by moosenose
Have you ever been to the area in question? Hell, for that matter, have you ever been up to your ass in alligators in a mangrove swamp???

The 'W' and 'R' in ANWR stand for wildlife refuge. It's not just up there for shits and giggles, it has a reason. It's purpose is to allow species (many endangered by oil driling and development) to thrive and multiply. Much as it is our responsibility not to blow up the planet, it is our responsibility not to commit knowing murder of entire species. This helps to undo the damage we have inflicted. What pro-drillers want is to ruin this wildlife refuge in order tyo extract a fuel that poisons the air and environment. Thats two wrongs for those who are counting. What is the benifit for this wrong? A tiny little drop in a global bucket that will have basically no effect on our oil reserves.
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Originally Posted by moosenose
There are people who are "buying property" on the MOON. As the saying goes: "A fool and his money are soon partying."

This has nothing to do with that. When and if man starts to colonize the galaxy, I might be therte to sign up. As for the moon? I'd say we'd be better off starting at Mars. This is of course a different conversation.
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As for the environmental argument: I refer you to Denis Leary's "No cure for cancer" performance. He said it far better than I can...

He was being ironic. He's ironic a lot, actually. There is irony in the name of the performance even.

moosenose 05-23-2005 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel
The 'W' and 'R' in ANWR stand for wildlife refuge. It's not just up there for shits and giggles, it has a reason. It's purpose is to allow species (many endangered by oil driling and development) to thrive and multiply. Much as it is our responsibility not to blow up the planet, it is our responsibility not to commit knowing murder of entire species. This helps to undo the damage we have inflicted. What pro-drillers want is to ruin this wildlife refuge in order tyo extract a fuel that poisons the air and environment. Thats two wrongs for those who are counting. What is the benifit for this wrong? A tiny little drop in a global bucket that will have basically no effect on our oil reserves.

So, you're not so much opposed to drilling in ANWR, you're opposed to fossil fuel driven power, right? I suspect that if that "tiny drop in the global bucket" was the drop keeping your family from freezing to death in the winter, you MIGHT change your mind. You say it's our responsibility to not knowingly kill entire species. I'd disagree with you. There are some species that SHOULD be exterminated. Mosquitos and fleas come to mind, simply because they can and routinely do transmit disease.

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He was being ironic. He's ironic a lot, actually. There is irony in the name of the performance even.
I dunno...the part when he's talking about representing angry gun-toting meat-eating people seems pretty straight-forward to me...


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