maybe you're right, cyn, and such problems as there are here with debate are structural, the nature of the beast.
i cant say as i have my head fully around that yet.
do you?

on the other hand, if the problems are structural, then maybe a coffee woudln't be so bad....who's to know?


will: thanks. i think the performance went well. i could talk about it at length....but it is late.....i am tired,.....and i think whatever i said would be misunderstood as one of those threadjack things.

signing off.
regular roachboy programming will resume with the next post.

Coffee wouldn't be as bad as I imagine. It's here when we can take 15-20 minutes to create a response, have infinite reference tomes etc to cut and paste can create a deluge of information. When speaking I'm pretty sure (from my personal observations) that reference would be made, possibly the person not understanding of the reference would inquire, other would explain, and then the onus on the inquirer would be then to investigate at a later time. Explainer and inquirer would then move onto the next points of the subject, inquirer understanding the foundation of the rest of the discussion but not scrutinizing facts since they are couched for the moment.

I have my head around it as best as I can for what works for me, which is usually similar in manner to my 3D persona which is to try to continue the conversation as best as possible. Sometimes when something seems so "out there" contrasting to my opinion I have to take that time to investigate.