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Grace, Too 11-01-2004 09:19 AM

Question About The Bible
 
For my own research... pick one which most accurately suits you.

1.

a) I have never read the Bible and never will.

b) I have skimmed it, once or twice, but a long time ago. I don't understand it.

c) I have read it recently and am somewhat interested in its message.

d) I frequently read and search through the Bible for understanding.


2.

a) The Bible is completely false

b) The Bible is mostly false

c) The Bible contains some truths

d) The Bible is 100% inerrant.


3.

a) Jesus is a myth

b) Jesus was a normal man

c) Jesus was a man with extra special powers

d) Jesus was God.

4.

a) I have never sinned

b) I don't think I have ever sinned

c) I've probably sinned

d) I am a sinner.

Thanks for your answers! :thumbsup:

Lebell 11-01-2004 09:31 AM

Interesting.

What are your answers??

Anyway...

1) d
2) c (but you need an option, "The Bible has Truth, but is not as a history/science
book")
3) b AND d .... this is the wonder/mystery of the man and what makes him Unique.
4) d

adysav 11-01-2004 09:34 AM

1) between b and c, read it a long time ago, not really my scene.
2) c
3) b
4) d

Grace, Too 11-01-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lebell
Interesting.

What are your answers??


I'm sure you could guess, based on the kind of questions asked. But that's not important.

By the way, the a,b,c, or d is intended to be 'most closely' to what you believe. Obviously they aren't all encompassing.

irateplatypus 11-01-2004 10:50 AM

same as lebell...

1. D
2. C (poorly designed question imho)
3. B and D (a central tenet of Christian faith)
4. D

Strange Famous 11-01-2004 11:11 AM

1 c
2 c
3 not sure, not a
4 d

asaris 11-01-2004 11:12 AM

1d
2 -- bad question, I'd have to say none of the above (the Bible is inerrant on matters of faith and morality, but not on, say, historical fact).
3d
4 -- again, bad question. I've certainly sinned, but I'm not a sinner.

Grace, Too 11-01-2004 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asaris
2 -- bad question, I'd have to say none of the above (the Bible is inerrant on matters of faith and morality, but not on, say, historical fact).

4 -- again, bad question. I've certainly sinned, but I'm not a sinner.


If I walk, I am a walker. If I talk, I am a talker. If I eat, I am an eater. But if I sin, I am not a sinner???????

I'm sorry the questions aren't written the way you like them. It's my thread. I asked them that way on purpose.

CandleInTheDark 11-01-2004 12:38 PM

1) Bad question
2) A
3) A
4) D

11-01-2004 12:38 PM

Well that definately makes me a sinner!

c,c,c,d

SecretMethod70 11-01-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irateplatypus
same as lebell...

1. D
2. C (poorly designed question imho)
3. B and D (a central tenet of Christian faith)
4. D

Same here as well. Regarding question 2, I believe the Bible to be 100% true, but true does not mean literally true. Truth and literal truth are not dependant on each other. As for the third question, considering where I believe you stand I find the wording quite odd coming from you. It is nearly impossible (save for a few very minor denominations) to be considered a Christian without believing both B *AND* D. I'm assuming you meant for only one option to be chosen for each question, which poses a significant problem for the third one.

absorbentishe 11-01-2004 01:01 PM

I fall into a C, C, C, D pattern. The questions in whole aren't very good, not sure what you are looking for, what kind of research this could be.

hannukah harry 11-01-2004 01:29 PM

1.<b> e) i have read parts of it, but not the whole thing, and probably never will.</b>


2. c) The Bible contains some <b>historical truths and semi-truths</b>


3. <b>e) Jesus <i>may</i> have been a living person, but if so was a normal man turned into legend post-humously.</b>

4. d) I am a sinner. <b>and loving it. :suave: </b>

superiorrain 11-01-2004 02:07 PM

I'll go with a,b,c,d.

yep happy with that.

I feel i need to explain my answer of 3c. I consider that jesus more and likely existed in fact i'm almost sure that he did (don't ask me why i feel this way, as i don't really know - not religous in the slightest). As for i powers i'll just say that perhaphs he could do some special shit and engage with people. Also i'm sure he did heal people just like many people that work with alternative meds. But in saying all that i think he was human to and shared in all the vices of mere mortals - I mean sex amongst other things here, the fundamental desires of all living creatures.

I have only sinned in regards to the bible not my own beliefs.

1slOwCD8 11-01-2004 02:17 PM

1)C.
2)C./D.
3)D.
4)D.

CSflim 11-01-2004 03:18 PM

I tried to answer your questions as best I could, but you have created what could almost be considered as textbook examples of loaded questions.

e.g.
Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
a)Yes.
b)No.

For the record my answers are
1. b, though I take issue with your assertion that anyone who doesn't read the bible regularly doesn't understand it.
2. a, b or c, with regards to historical information it is reasonably accurate, with regards to moral, spiritual, metaphysical information it is, in my opinion, completely false.
3. b
4. d, though I don't agree with the bible's definition of "Sin", if I were to be judged on that basis I would be a sinner. (Lack of belief in god)

martinguerre 11-01-2004 03:26 PM

I'll hitch to the Lebell band wagon.

1) d
2) c (but you need an option, "The Bible has Truth, but is not as a history/science
book")
3) b AND d .... this is the wonder/mystery of the man and what makes him Unique.
4) d

Lebell 11-01-2004 04:04 PM

Woohoo!

I have a band wagon!

asaris 11-01-2004 04:32 PM

Go Lebell! Looking over the questions again, I guess I should say B AND D for 3. Depends how you parse 'normal'.

Coppertop 11-01-2004 04:47 PM

B, C, B, D

radioguy 11-01-2004 05:02 PM

1. b
2. d
3. d
4. d

Halx 11-01-2004 05:24 PM

1. The first question doesn't contain my answer. You've loaded each answer with bias.
2. B
3. B
4. There is no such thing as sin.

Suave 11-01-2004 05:27 PM

I must warn you that I haven't used any of the supplied answers for this. I assume it's research only for your own self-interest, in which case, I hope you find something interesting in my answers.

1.

a) I have never read the Bible and never will.

b) I have skimmed it, once or twice, but a long time ago. I don't understand it.

c) I have read it recently and am somewhat interested in its message.

d) I frequently read and search through the Bible for understanding.

I choose not to answer this question using the supplied choices, because the possible responses are loaded. My answer would be the first part of b, and the second part of c.

2.

a) The Bible is completely false

b) The Bible is mostly false

c) The Bible contains some truths

d) The Bible is 100% inerrant.

I do not believe that the Bible is meant to be taken as truth, and therefore its having of truth, or lack of truth is irrelevant. I would have to say "d", although not in the context within which you've phrased the responses. It is free from error, because it is completely reliant on interpretation.


3.

b) Jesus was a man.


4.

e) I do not believe in sin. However, by the standards of someone with fundamental belief in The Old Testament, I've probably sinned.

Kagemusha222 11-01-2004 07:30 PM

1)c
2)c
3)b
4)d

Again like the others I have some problems with your questions. I have read the bible many many times and understand it, I am interested in some of its messages yet I have problems with its many contradictions.

I also have issues with what the church has left OUT of the bible such as the Gospel of St. Thomas (for the New Testament). We must remember that the bible is a collection of stories meant to teach. Each story was chosen to speak to the greatest amount of people. This is why we get 2 creation stories in Genesis. Many others were left out.

I believe Jesus was a man, a teacher and holy. I do not believe he was God incarnate.

Also sin is subjective. There are many contradictions within the bible as to what a sin is and isnt. Also unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of the Old and New Testaments (as well as the Gospels and books that were left out of the bible) it is probable that you have sinned errantly. Should you still be judged?

These questions were interesting yet had a fundamental bias that may turn people off. Perhaps rather than limit the answers to 4 choices (life and theology are not that simple) you should ask the questions and have open responses?

tecoyah 11-01-2004 08:23 PM

1= C....have also read many other religious texts

2= C....All myths carry seeds of truth

3= C....Jesus was likely an Avatar, as was the Buddah, and others

4= A....I do not believe in Sin, as defined in the texts you refer to



By the way....which version of the Bible(s) are you refering to, as they differ quite a bit

ravenradiodj 11-01-2004 09:16 PM

I've read several different versions of the Bible, but I'm not a Christian. I believe it contains many moral and historical truths, as well as many inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, inconsistencies, and altered texts.

Jeheshua Bar Joseph was a man, an extraordinarily good man, healer and teacher.

My personal belief system rejects the notion of sin. Everything you do has consequences, and you have to live with and deal with those consequences, whatever they may be, and hold yourself accountable to your karmic debt.

________________________________________________________________________

Gimme That Old Time Religion - PAGAN FOR LIFE!

NegativeNine 11-01-2004 09:25 PM

1) C. there needs to be a more medium answer. I'd go about B.7
2) C.
3) C. Others are saying B & D. I consider this to be a mix of the 2...
4) D. Interesting that everybody said answered D. or stated they dont believe in it...(edit: well... almost everybody.)

Grace, Too 11-02-2004 08:11 AM

As I said, I don't care if you don't like the questions. You don't have to answer them. Thanks to everyone who answered. Keep going...

edited for tone.
-lebell

Stug 11-02-2004 08:19 AM

O.K then Grace:

1.) B
2.) C
3.) B
4.) C

Lebell 11-02-2004 08:31 AM



Grace, Too,

Once a post is born, rarely does it follow the exact path that the originator wishes it to take. Unfortunately, this is the nature of a dynamic communication medium.

It is also the unfortunate side effect of the same medium that comments that may (or may not) be innocent can be taken the wrong way.

In any event, I would ask that you and everyone reading this post to please pay attention to what you type and to please think of how it might sound to those reading it.


Grace, Too 11-02-2004 08:49 AM

And who are you that is so wise in the ways of thread posting???

(Disclaimer: Just in case you don't get it, that was a joke. It was a reference to Monty Python and the Search For The Holy Grail. A JOKE. I feel the need to make disclaimers every time I post now so that everyone knows my tone.)

Lebell 11-02-2004 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grace, Too
And who are you that is so wise in the ways of thread posting???


*points to the text on the left that says, "super moderator"*

While it does not guarentee "wisdom", it does help enforce board rules regarding conduct.

tecoyah 11-02-2004 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grace, Too
I feel the need to make disclaimers every time I post now so that everyone knows my tone.)

This is probably a very good Idea.........be it ever so unfortunate

flstf 11-02-2004 10:58 AM

1. C
2. C
3. C
4. B

Great book, mostly fiction, with interesting historical content (especially the old testament)

bill96ab 11-02-2004 07:00 PM

D,D,D,D

heh... D^4

11-02-2004 08:18 PM

boy, a lot of my answers weren't shown....

1. E (none of the above) I have read it numerous times frequently a long time ago, I occassionally do now- because there are good messages in it, I am not searching for understanding

2. C

3. ALL OF THEM ( I could explain why, but that could lead to a long-winded post)

4. E- I don't believe in sin

Phantom Power 11-03-2004 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill96ab
D,D,D,D

heh... D^4


Me too bill96ab! Me too.

socal 11-03-2004 04:26 AM

Interesting,
d
d
d
d

solaron1 11-04-2004 02:31 AM

1)d
2)d
3)d - (Jesus is God's first creation -- Another variance in bible believers)
4)d - (Definitely a sinner... thinking some sinful stuff as I type...


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