I'm starting to get freaked out
 

So...a lot of weird shit has been happening to me lately. Things that I cannot explain. I'm not a huge believer in the supernatural or anything, but after the last couple of weeks I'm starting to believe. Let me explain....

About 2 weeks ago, or there about, I was surfing the web-TFP-ing and such, when I caught movement out of the corner of my eye, I thought nothing of it, figuring it to be a bug, then one of my daughter's toys, the talking grill, starts going "Fire me up!!" and whatever else it says.

Now I was freaked, because you have to move the thing in order for it to turn on. Then the sink in her play kitchen starting making it's noise, you have to turn a knob for it to turn on. Pretty weird, eh? It gets better. After the sink turned itself on I was done for the evening shut everything down and went upstairs (My office and my daughter's playroom are in the finished basement of my house).

When I got to the top of the stairs, I noticed an overwhelming smell of cigarrette smoke, but no one in our house smokes, no one that we know smokes and the windows to the house were closed due to the 30 degree night air. When I went two steps in any direction the smoke was nowhere to be smelled...kind of freaky, what with smoke having that smoky property of drifting.

As I approached the bathroom I noticed that there was a heavy smell of pipe smoke in the air around the bathroom and my daughter's room. I figured she wasn't smoking a pipe-she's only three. Once again, when I went two steps in any direction the pipe smoke was nowhere to be smelled.

Nervously shrugging it off, I went into the bathroom, did my thing and came out and went to bed. I was thoroughly freaked out due to the smoke smells, so I was fairly wide awake. Then I noticed a circle of light on the wall. I figured it was from the neighbors driveway lights shining in through our blinds and hitting one of the holes that the strings run through. Well, they shut their lights off and the circle was still there. It was the only light in the room...now I'm completely freaked and not too happy. Nothing more really happened that night.

The circle of light has been there on and off over the last couple of weeks and I've become comfortable with it there. I've rationalized it to be something man-made-makes me feel better.

Over the last couple of days I've noticed something quite peculiar. It seems that sometimes there are warm spots here and there. I noticed it a couple of days ago. It was 85 degrees and my wife had the central AC on in the house, since the basement is ducted it was about 50 down there, but my chair was quite warm, as though someone had been sitting in it just a moment before and the immediate area in front of my keyboard was warm as well.

I flashed back to the night that everything went whacky in the basement and started wondering if there was something to all of these happenings.

I have noticed the same thing with my car seat being warm-at night, when it rainy, dark and cold, last night my side of the bed was warm along with my pillow-the whole side of my bed was warm. No electric blanket on and my wife was on her side of the bed and had not been on my side, freaky.

Just today as I sat down to my computer after lunch, my chair was hot, my mouse was hot and my wrist rest was hot, as though someone were just sitting here. I am now completely freaked out. I know no one was sitting at my desk while I was eating lunch because I was sitting at a round table in my cube with one of the other guys while I ate. We started eating at noon, we finished at about 1pm, after shooting the breeze for a while, then I got up from the chair at the table and sat down at my desk and everything is hot-the heat isn't on, the AC is. How fucked up is that??

So, those of you that lasted this long....any ideas/similar experiences? I'm grasping for answers but only one "makes sense" right now.

HOLY SHIT MAN THAT IS MESSED UP.

no stories for ya' but keep droppin' 'em in here if they carry on.

good luck man and......

no worries eh.

Well, that's definitely unnerving. As comfort I would offer the fact that once you start to get freaked out, the more you'll look for things that freak you out, and the more effect each thing will have on you.
I'll go through one by one, not to debunk your ideas or mock you in any way, but to try to provide some outside clarity. Your daughter's toys were the first thing. Each could be a simple electrical short that triggered the sound, though both happening sequentially is pretty odd. As for the pipe and cigarette smoke, memory and smell are very closely linked. Perhaps something triggered that memory in your brain. Though, again, it's odd for a memory to be concentrated in one area.
The spot of light should be investigated. See if you can determine its source, and thus put your mind at ease about it. How large of a circle? Have you tried tracing it back to the blind?
Hot and cold spots are not uncommon in a house. Perhaps the heat from the computer warmed the area noticeably.
The situation in your office is probably one that has happened before, but you never noticed it. Given that you are so alarmed by previous events, you likely accorded it more importance than it actually possesses.
I admit that all of these are a lot of ifs, and Occam's Razor would seem to suggest the answer you feel makes the most sense is correct, but see if you can eliminate some or all of these, and then consider if the freakiness diminishes. Also, look at everything odd that happens with a critical eye, and especially look at your reaction to it. Would you have noticed it before?
Good luck, man. Keep the info coming.

You're right, Kadath, these things need to be looked at with clarity and objectivity. For the most part I have, for example, I have been unable to ascertain the source of the circle of light. There is no reasonable amount of ambiant light that could make that bright of a circle of light on the wall in a pitch dark room. I've tried to cover all the bases with that one, including reflective surfaces, to no avail.

As far as the warm spots, I didn't bring every thing together until today after lunch. My mouse, chair and wrist rest were hot, not warm as the other times I experienced it, but they were hot. I have no idea how to objectify that-there is no reason for it. It has not happened before, I would have noticed it. They were hot like a mug of coffee hot. That's why I got freaked out.

The warm spot on my desk at home could not have been from the computer because it was still in my laptop bag and the other computers I have were off, not to mention that I have an AC duct about 3 feet from where I sit, under the table.

The smells and toys weren't the icing on the cake, but combined with everything else, the movement I saw and then the toys making noise and then going upstairs smelling those smells directly after....spooky shit.

I will post more stuff if I notice anything else that happens.

my personal favorite way for a demon to totally freak me out is when they open my door all by their lonesome.

i don't have the strength to open my own door. yep, i just made a lot of people say 'liar!' but it has happened.

there's a fine line between doubting the supernatural and using the LALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU way of dealing with it.

spirits are everywhere.

{cliche] The Matrix has you. {/cliche]

I say you should move.


Does the word Amityville mean anything to you.

Sorry, it was me. I have gas.

I related the story to a couple of guys I work with and they now think I'm crazy. I might be, who knows. It would explain a lot.

Well...I suggest that you enjoy the rest of the time you're here, because obviously you are a marked man.


Anyway...were you deprived of sleep, or food and drink, in any way? Maybe you were having some mild halucinations?
The thing about the circle of light sounds familiar. About a week ago, I was in my bedroom, and these light beams were coming out of the ceiling. They were pretty faint, but you could definently recognize them as beams. They would come from the ceiling in two different directions crossing to form an "X" just above my floor. I was stone sober and awake at the time of this occurence too. I find that ignoring these things helps....however you're situation sound unique, in that you are having multiple phenomena. I guess I don't really have any suggestions for you , except for just sit back and enjoy the show.

I was joking about the marked man bit...sorry.

Huh...you are crazy man...it says psycho right under your name there!:D

I wish it was sleep deprivation or starvation or something along those lines. I wasn't hallucinating, that's for sure, I know how...uh...I mean, I know what hallucinations are, these weren't them.

LSD flashbacks?

Seriously, that's some crazy shit. How come nothing cool like that ever happens to me?

Can't wait to see how things work out for you. Don't start freaking out until the messages get "personal". As long as the spooks are just surfing on your machines, you'll be OK.

.... some people can accept it, some people cannot.

I have an almost ethical view..... i don't believe in evicting anything, including demons, unless they bring harm.. at which there are measures to take to rid of them.

most demons are incredibly clever and devious but usasly benign. just pay attention and watch the kids close. if they seem different you need to re-evaluate some things.... PM if you need help.

i've been studying demonology for about 8 years.

Actually once your open to paranormal experiences you will notice them more often. It's a higher level of awareness. I've had these kind of experiences since I was 5 years old. My mom's house is haunted by ghosts that played nasty pranks on us. My mom actually called me one time to ask how to make him stop. I asked her " Is the closet door in my old bedroom unlocked and open?" She said yes...I was like "hellllll noooo close it now" One of my closets had the old door to the attic in it and when it was left open at night weird shit would happen.
The house me and alpha phi live in has some sort of ghost animal and a guy that stands there and watches us. When alpha phi first seem him it scared the shit out of him. He was like "who the f*** is in my house!!??"
I work in a nursing home and I notice paranormal stuff all the time there. I don't think this stuff is strange at all. To me it's pretty normal. Still freaks me out sometimes though.
I even had the privilage of seeing a fireball or lighting ball (can't remember what their called) once in my bedroom when I was a kid. I have way to many stories for this. :)

listen carefully........


are you SURE that there are no... ahhh....uhmmm.....eerrrrrr.......hallucinations goin' on here?


those puppies can throw you for a loop eh.

:confused:

Man your are freaking me out. Do you know anything of the history of the house?
Beware. If you start investigating this stuff even if it is nothing it will become more real and you will start seeing other strange things.

the unhappy looking buddah raises a fine point. DO NOT RESEARCH IT UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO BECOME A PART OF IT.

you cann't hide once you enter....

oh ya, i've had hallucinations more times than i can count due to medications and narc abuse. i can't explain how you know, but it is very obvious to someone who's experienced both things what is real and not.

Sounds like you have entered the twilight zone. If that stuff is for real, I would be freaking. Nothing like that has ever happened to me or anyone I know so I'm skeptical. I would assume there is a logical explanation for all of it, but it still seems spooky. Hope eveything works out ok.
Post updates.

Fucked up man, I personaly go with the ignore it and it will go away ideology...works so far...one of these days I may accept it, but it really freaks me out right now...Like when you look in the mirror and see someone elses face...

i am so flabbergasted and amazed at the ammount of people who really DO live by the LALALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU defense.

no flame or offense meant. I just can't imagine ignoring anything in hopes of it going away....

but then i've had to tackle a lot of stuff so i could live.
hmm

WhoaitsZ, you're posts freak me out...watch the kids?!?! That's what I need to think about!! :)

Anyway, so tonight I told my wife everything and, of course, she now thinks I'm crazy too. I think that unless you've experienced it, you can't relate...at all.

So, I'm in my basement office right now, everything seems jiggy. Hopefully it stays that way.

Another question....why does most of this crap have to happen at night?

I'm with WhoaitsZ on this one... Demons love to annoy people, love to see them freak out, the get a joke out of it. It's when they start to hurt people that can be trouble. Anyways yeah...

hey i'm about halfway through your post wrkime and i'm already freaked out myself...

A classic case of too much TFP and not enough sleep....

There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

house on a indian burial ground?

Wrkime - sorry :D i've lived with fundy Christians my whole life!

alright. sorry. i obviously wasn't thinking to clearly when I mentioned 'watch your kids'. i do apologize for such a vauge, un-nerving statement.

a lot of spirits are childish. silly pranks, and such.... and kids and them have tendencies to connect. but going against all Christian beliefs i have zero evidence of them always trying to cause harm. a lot of them seem almost children themselves: kids are completely open to things and have built no LALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU defenses so they will accept such much easier. it can be freaky.. like an invisiible dog.

what you should do is open much more dialogues for a few weeks with your children. do not drill them or get stern. just nonchalantly discuss things, especially play and new 'games'.


i am not going to lie and say they are all harmless. but most are. i think many are simply bored.......


case in point: my door in my last residence. it would open, then close, open , then close.

one day itold it "please fucking STOP". to my surprise, it quit for several hours. it was just annoying.

then there's the Whoa This is Not Good moments... my nephew told us of a new friend who seemed harmless until he mentioned that if he told anyone she would hurt him. (slipped) we took action and found the source. we didn't play around since it could possibly be harmful.


bleh, i've got many examples, but i'm not trying to make people think i'm mad (although i fear i just did).

don't freak out...... if i were playing a joke on you and you freaked out i'd be winning.


oh. on a innocent 'Z needs to be funny har har' note...... just don't have any clown puppets and really big knives close :):):)

that clown in poltergeist scared the hell out of hell itself. eek!

Ghostbusters!
 

sounds creepy... ive smelled smoke in my closet in my dorms before... its weird... nothing should smell like smoke.... i just figured i musta got some smoke on my clothes or the neighber was smokin in his room again...


sorry i couldnt resist....

Yeah, I've seen a few things too. Mostly just black figures out of the corner of my eye. I'm a strong believer in God, therefore Angels and Demons as well. I've had experiences through other means.. but that's a different story.

My GF has seen one. It appeared to her as a stereotyped demon. tail, crouched, horns, black figure and red eyes.. yada yada yada. She had seen it several times so i'm not nocking it off as a hallucination. Damn, I wish I was there!

My mother has had the sheet gently rise up and then float down again. That was when she first started to study in the religion. But yeah.. myself I've never had anything really happen while I was awake.. unfortunately. Anways, hope things work out :D

i've already said too much to not risk being called coocoo, so here goes

:i've woken up to a silvery-white thing holding my hand in the air.

I've stared down a mostly shapeless black form once for about six hours. i knew if i slept, i'd die.

i've been attacked by a mass about the size of my bed once. black, tried to smother me.

i've had the shadowy figures walk by my doorway, but they could not enter. i have no idea why not.

i've been (again) on the verge of death, sleeping when mom went to check on me but 'was held behind the door. there were.. things.. singing to you and i could not cross into your room'. i woke up feeling -good-

i've had a blanket of mine dance around like a snake.

this is what i can think of off the top of my head.

Awesome :D
well not so for the almost dying bit...

Ya, i have experienced this kinda thing. My dorm in middle school (yes i was in boarding school since middle school) had a graveyard right behind it. A whole family, the former owner of the hotel, died in a fire before my school bought the hotel for a dorm. I still remember there would be knocking at night (really loud). At first i thought it was someone else in the dorm. but one night, we had everyone over for a sleep over (it was a smalll dorm with 5 people) and the knocking was just as violent as before. Eventually i just ignored it or told it to shutup. One other time, we had another sleepover and the windows were all squeaking while closed. We freaked so i suggested to turn on the music. After 10 minutes, as my friend commented on how he liked the song the radio, the stereo turned off. (we had to fit everyone on the floor and bunk bed) Everyone freaked out.... we couldn't sleep for the whole night. We will turn on music and it would shut off. The door would knock and the window would squeak.... It was scary as hell

ya know. i just moved to a new house in march. until then, i lived next to a graveyard since the summer of 92. i as scared the first night. so, i went to it the next day.. never got scared again. except once.

anyhow, my niece moved nextdoor and liked me to take her for walks. i took her to it often. we helped set things back up and what not. we ended up tending the place quite a lot.

i've only had one bothersome experience. if you wanna know, ask and i'll post it.

but as far as 'seeing dead people', its never happened to me. and seeing toys and/or objects do weird shit hasn't happened either (except that blanket oding the snake thing)

i sound like a crazy person :(

lol.. crazy.. nah.. just sensitive

post it on up, I'm interested in seeing what it is :)

NOTE!!!!
For those of you that think this stuff is crazy, be forwarned as I just kinda spilled my guts on a lot of my "sightings." It is a good read, but if you are interesting in the paranormal, then you won't be disappointed.
NOTE!!!!

WhoaitsaZ... no no you do not. If you've been studying this stuff for 7 years or so, i SERIOUSLY would love a forum section just about the paranormal... As there is SO much to talk about, I'd be much obliged (man when did i use that word last..) if you'd post it.

Spose I should explain why I don't consider anyone to be insane, especially Z and Atropos and such. You guys speak of demons, from that there are angels. I've seen both. I don't take medicine, never smoked a joint in my life. Clean in every respect, but I see spirits, but only in glances. Beyond that i FEEL them. It goes beyond just a simple feeling. All my life I'd feel cold chills run through my body. I always tried to figure out what it meant...at one point I think it meant Elvis was my friend... hehehe..
But finally I came to the realization that I see spirits like a blind man sees the world. I Feel them, mainly their presence, but when I am in the correct mindset, I can actually pinpoint their location with a weird gut feeling. I can tell how many are in the room and WHERE they are walking... Kinda like a Sonar Sense. Though I've only known about the "Sonar" ability for about 6 months. Its an amazing feeling when I do it too. Also these cold chills (outside of the Gut " Sonar" Feeling) are like a language with spirits. I know I have a gaurdian, one that watches over me, and has become a great friend to me. I actually will talk with her (A friend who sees spirits told me is a she). Of course she can hear my words, but how do i hear hers? Simple, its through the "cold chills" that I get. Depending where the chill starts... either broad or pinpointing from an area of my body, and then how it passes thru my body, flows across the skin or just like a tap of coldness, they are all different things. So I know when she's happy, sad, or even pissed with what I am doing. I'll be watching a sad movie and I'll have that feeling to shed a tear (I'm a sappy guy, when i get a girl, I'm sure she'll appreciate it ;)) and then I'll feel the spirit "applaud" me. Its really great as she works as a partner in the spiritual world with me. When I speak about this information with others, alongside what i can see and notice, she verifies what others say. Again there is this distinct feeling that is like a.. "Yes, he speaks the truth." Its pretty cool.
I remember ever since I was little, I would always talk to something in my basement room, never knew why. At first it was because i was scared because i felt something, later on I wasn't talking to myself but to it, as i KNEW something was there. Apparently Demons like to stay in a closet down there as well, though they do much any more. Its okay tho, as I just give them a show when i go down there. I tell 'em jokes, and I know they're laughing at me, and hey.. If it makes them happy and i still get a laugh outta there... Good things right? :)

Now for the fun part. Here is why Z is NOT crazy. I am a religious man, and I can say with all my heart that I have been to Hell and back. Try taking that lightly... heh. I helped free a friend's soul from hell. One amazing experience, that took me a while afterword to fully accept, its alot to take in. I know that Satan... or the ultimate demonic spirit, take your choice, tells people that they would make them powerful when they die, but with my friend, I honestly do not believe he was joking. My friend was honestly 1st in command of many MANY demons when he would have died. He can see demons and they would say hi to him daily, as someday he would be their leader. When i finally uncovered all the truth about this I helped him without thinking of myself. Okay I spose this require even more backstory. (quite a lengthy post... :)) When I was about 15 or so, I had a despression. I didn't realize how severe until about a hear ago, but one where i doubted everything and... it just terrible. During this time I had a demon taunt me in my dreams (I mentioned these dream in teh last version of TFP if any of you remember, as someone said it coulda have been a night terror, but the symptoms didn't fill out). This demon was huge and just laughed and taunted me, until the last one, when i showed no fear, and stated that i had backup, namely my god. It got scared, ran away never to be seen again. Well when i was helping my friend, I got demons in my dreams again. Obviously Satan didn't like me helping this particular soul very as he began to attack me too... IN my dreams. The last dream I was attacked by Satan's Daughter. This Z is partly why I wish to speak with you. The friend who I was helping also (obviously) has studied a lot about demons. So i'm curious to know if he had a daughter(tho this may or may not be your demon expertise). Now to wrap up and save the whole thing Hell story for another day. I decided to help him one day, and I spiritually stepped into the inner sanctums of hell. Yet I had no fear, I was more or less pissed by now, but I had safety precautions, so don't worry. I went in, helped to free his soul and left. An amazing feeling, and also that feeling of where time does not exist.

NOW, for those of you that persisted through all of this... Hopefully you have Z as I really wanted you to hear this, as I normally don't even say this much to people I don't know, but I trust you with this, and I trust the rest of TFP who now think I lied when i said i don't smoke pot, that they won't go off blabbing this to anyone.

I'll be here for more of this, as this kind of stuff just gets my mind moving. I once again can make my old Siggy for making a Paranormal/Dreams Forum ;) I'll return don't doubt it, but now I must stop, as this is long and i'm getting that crazy vertigo feeling. ;);)

Later,
GakFace

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woah dude that's alot to take in... I've had demons attack me in my dreams to once.. I've 'destroyed', if you could put it that way, one with a sword of incredible light, don't know where it came from or if I'll ever get it back.. hope to one day.. :)

It's not as cool as it sounds. A door swinging open or shut by itself may sound like a cool occurrance, but when it happens in your presence, it can range from unsettling to terrifying.

I've had my share of paranormal experiences.

Last year, the day after my father died, my mother and I were simultaneously awakened by his voice calling her name.

There is a spirit, who I assume to be a Native American who lived in this area hundreds of years ago. He stands at the entrance to the woods behind my house, never moving, just standing, I assume he is watching over the land. The dirt on our property is only about 1-3 inches above the layer of bedrock, otherwise I'd worry about an Indian graveyard.

I've seen an "orb" on my webcam; it was not visible to the naked eye. I took extensive measures to ensure that it was not a camera problem or a reflection of something else.

My basement is arranged with a main room(the "playroom"), a smaller room (the "piaino room" at one end of it with an open arch as the door, and a storage area (the "workshop," which it used to be) with the door on the wall next to and perpendicular to the piano room door. Earlier this week, I was in the workshop getting something, the piano room light was on so that I could walk far enough into the workshop to turn on the light without tripping and falling. Once I was done, I turned off the workshop light, turned off the piano room light, and walked to the stairs (in the playroom) about 10 feet away. As I turned to flip the lightswitch, I saw that the piano room light was on. I assumed that I had only pushed the switch halfway down and that it had bounced back up. the same thing happened again, and I assumed the same thing. I turned it off and thought nothing of it as I went back upstairs. Later that night, I went down to get some laundry, and teh light was on again. I turned it off, and started to wonder about it. The next morning, it was back on. The night that it happened, my mother heard my father's voice again.

A few weeks ago, another interesting incident occured in the basement. I left the workshop, and as the door has a tendency to fall open, I took a shall box from a table and put it in front of the door to keep it shut. As I turned around to shut off the light, the box was back on the table and the door wide open.

I've had other encounters with the supernatural, and I am studying various related topics. I have learned to "see" auras around people and some spirits, and I have been able to count the auras in a dark room.

Of all the paranormal experiences I've had, I've saved the best for last. We've all probably had dreams about flying, but mine once went a step further. I woke up with my nose on the ceiling, and sprained my wrist when I fell 6 feet down to my bed.

wow, who knows if i really fly, when i do i always hit the ground, and I won't really know as my sister just says i hit the wall alot.. heh. Although it just occured to me that a few years ago my parents asked me how I got the ceiling all dirty in my room. Still don't know, but weird to think that it could have been one nite when i slept with my shoes on...

BTW how did you learn to see aura's? I've heard of people who could do that, but I have yet to LEARN how to do this, I just realize of "innate abilities" of my own and then practice with them so I can use them with finesse. I can never see the spirits, not with more than a glance, but I always know when to say Hi. Even tho no one sees anything, I still know to say hi to whoever it is that we cannot see... ;) Ironic, i type this without speaking, and i get cold chills, namely wanting me to say "HI".. hehe that was kinda funny.

whoa. (no pun intended)
alright, i'm much more comfortable now. I will post in a few minutes about the not so quite fun experience with the cemetary. i have a lot more to tell, mainly exorcisms, which people are scared of - for good reason and a lot of nonesense (no offen catholics) tha is sometimes expected.

as a race, we've seriously managed to fuck up some stuff.

i'll get back to this soon. i wish they'd give us a Paranorma board...

I vote for the Paranormal board too...anyone suggested it yet?
I firmly believe in ghosts, spirits, whichever name you want to give them. My sister has had several very unsettling episodes during which she saw a ghost. The first was upon my the anniversary of my grandmother's death (we weren't aware of the significance of the date until later). My sister was born only a few weeks after our grandmother died so they never knew each other. One night my sister saw this old lady near her bed, reaching out to her...then she smiled and disappeared. That was it. We think it was grandma coming back to see the grandchild she missed out on. My sister also suffered from migraines. One night she was waiting for a ride (we lived way out in the country) and she was approached by a girl her age wearing old fashioned English riding gear. This girl calmly told my sister she had been killed by her horse by a blow to the head and everyone had blamed the horse when it was just an accident. She disappeared and from that moment on my sister's headaches never bothered her again. Wierd stuff.
While I have not seen a ghost myself I do know I have felt a definite presence before. The first house I owned had been previously owned by a hermit lady. She died in the house, alone, it was renovated and I bought it. Numerous times I would be in the basement doing laundry and I could feel someone watching me. I used to shrug if off as an over-active imagination until I would watch my animal's reactions when I felt it. My dog would start to whimper and boot it up the stairs as fast as she could (man's best friend, indeed) but my cat would freak! That's what made me start to think I wasn't just crazy but that they felt a presence as well. It got to the point where I would say hello to her anytime I went in the basement....but it really freaked me out, I have to admit.

Okay well I for one after reading most of the posts here can confirm two things for sure.
1) Satan does have a daughter. I know this as I've dated her.
2) If you try hard enough to ignore something in time it'll go away

Okay. I took a long break. (3 or 4 hours.. long for me!)

one night i was going to the cemetary and nothing about the day was any different than any other. no meds change, no mood swings, no odd weather. Ordinary Boring Day.

so i'm going down the road when i'm hit with an electrical feeling... in a major way and i felt myself ... pulled toward it and i saw it rush to me then poof i'm back in my chair driving. it all happened in like one second, if that long. i remember stopping driving and shaking my head, wondering if i had a seizure or something. after replaying and self diagnoses i went ahead and went... when i got this it is as if someone took over my mood. i felt a major wave of shock and fear, then anger. i told myself this just isn't me and i hauled ass. when i got home i felt fine.

now most people would feel all kinds of shit if they had a seizure or something. no doubt. but remember, my body is very different and i am use to changing on a dime. i've lalmost croaked in two minutes flat a couple of times by this point. i was wigged out due to the episode.

oh yeah. on my way to the cemetary at first a wire came unplugged in my chair, stranding me about half way. nice! lovely feeling! my brother saw me, came by, hooked it back up... the wire could not have jangled loose. it looked to had been physically unplugged.

the next morning i got to go back...... and there was a funeral being held. i called my grandfather to see just what was going on over there and he told me at 9:13 or so an old lady had passed away. the time she passed was the time i went for my walk.

at this moment in time i just didn't know what to think.... that night i went back again. i am not easily scared off and i'm exceptionally ballsy. i wouldn't let my niece go, though.. anyhow, i went and i went up to the gate and leaned on it and felt nothing. i felt silly but i was alone nand asked out loud if i did something wrong. no answers of course. then BOOM. emotions not of my own again. fear, anger and then a strong unwanted feeling. this time i left with ssome dignity and then like a kid when i was out of sight i hauled ass again.

at this point i was wigging out and i could find no answers anywhere. my parents believed me somewhat but no help. i needed to get back and face it down because i know my niece could slip off there (she was only five) and if she was harmed ... i couldn't let that happen. and also i fixed the flowers and all at the site when they'd fall over.

so i logged on to an old BBS and found a woman who at one time was a witch but bowed out of it due to some bad temptations. she no longer trusted herself not to do bad things. ihave known her for years so we talked in length and her figuring is this

i was going there when the woman died. somehow, though no body was yet buried, she was pulled to the site. somehow, she hit me. thus me seeing the cemetary "come to me" during that little spell. you know in books how, if a person turns upside down or falls they say 'the road rushed up to meet him'? that's how it felt,

so somehow she... went trhough me, and for a split second i saw through her eyes and senses and i think it is why i had the troublesome emotions afterwards.

so i went bck again... and i went straight up and spoke out that if i had offended, i was sorry. fifi had to go, i would, but i had been helping out and wished to continue. i plead. then i told them something silly i cannot recall, a type of warning to not fuck with my niece.

from that night on the only emotion i had there was peace.

-shrug-

oh yeah. one time I went to look around. i had had a little Chihuahua named Gizmo from 96 until thanksgiving 2001. anyhow, he followed me everywhere and acted like a pitbull. he was protective. he oftentimes went with me to the cemetary and would sit outside of it and wait on me (this is the only place ever where i didn't allow my pets.

i had another dog too for a few weeks (had to take him to the humane society) and he was very protective of me also. so the two dogs and I went to the cemetary and i turned around.. they were sittin g on the main road like 'have fun! see ya!'

it was odd. i went back to them, they followed me in the direction home. i circled back. they stopped. they would *not* cross over. period. they just looked at me like im dumb. so i left early.. he next day, both followed me, Gizmo sat down and Black Dog tried to get into the gate.

its just odd. and no, there were no skunks around :)

When a lot of wierd stuff was happening to us kids when I lived at home my dad finally researched the house. He found out that a funeral home used it to stored coffins...kinda creepy..

When we first moved there I was five years old. My sister made friends with "Herman" her "imaginary friend." Very real. She told us he had two kids. Those kids played all kinds of pranks on us. There are 3 bedrooms upstairs, two in the back where the attic used to be. One day my sister and I were playing house in one of those back bedrooms and we wanted to go down and play outside. The only thing is the door wouldn't open to the bedroom. Now this door doesn't latch. At all, and still doesn't. You can open it by just tapping it with your index finger. Anyways, the door would open a little and then slam shut again. The only other person at the house was my mom and she was downstairs watching tv. We starting screaming and crying and suddenly the door just opened and let us out. Really freaked us out.

I always felt and seen spirits when I worked in the basement of my work. (nursing home) One of them a male would freak me out a little. But only because he would run behind me or stand just behind me when I was washing my hands. I talked to him. He would also watch me fold linen. One time I thought one of the other workers was standing across the room (I didn't look up) and I started talking to her. She didn't answer me. I looked up and he dissapeared. Kinda startled me and I told him so. That happened after I hadn't seen him for awhile. I've only seen him once or twice since I switched jobs within the home. .

My mother told me that when I was a baby we lived in gheto neighborhood in Houston. She saw my grandma (who died when my mom was 6) twice. Once she was leaning in the crib and gave me a kiss and the other she was hovering over my aunt Missy. A couple of years ago my sister lost a baby after carrying it for four months. Back home she was laying on the couch stareing into the kitchen and then she saw what turned out to be gramma holding a little blonde baby boy. She told my sister (through feeling) that he was ok now and that everything would be ok.
sorry so long...Many more if you'd like to hear them.

First I would like you to see my siggy. I suggest so that word gets around that you replace my name with yours and add it to your siggy. The more its seen, the better chance we have of having a place dedicated to this, and I know with just 3 people we could fill it up, and I know LOTS of people are interested.

Secondly, that is simply amazing Z, freaky but amazing none-the-less. Before i knew what the presence was, I would NOT enter my laundry room until I had music playing or something to distract me.. and i'd always haul ass up my stairs to the main floor. Since then I just walk down there, but I'm usually talking to them. It weird when you're freezing and you get a cold chill (as you're already ice cold....) or its a hot HOT sunny day, with no wind... Thats how I became interesting in my "chills"

My friend has told me to never try to speak with animals, mentally that is, as if I ever connected they would crush my mind. I dunno about that, I still try on occasion.. might be a simple fantasy that'll never come true, but i'd love to speak with them, as they are no where near as stupid as some people like to think. This of course is yet another thread for our forum to be... ;)

Bender, You say you've dated Satan's Daughter? How did you do that? Perhaps I should post my picture up sometime so you could show, I bet she'd be pissed. She's attacked me in my dreams and I succeeded, then attacked me in real life, when I was spiritually in hell and physically still on Earth (really confusing to explain that). Of course when she attacked me while i was concious, my angel stopped her lash to mind, and then she casted a spell only to miscast because she was in too much of a hurry. Who knows... Maybe she respects me to a degree, seeing how i just jumped in to help my friend out, that and the demons that enter my house i do not yell at, I just tell them Jokes, just like anyone else. Also as i said, I "dueled" with her, and held my own.

I simply cannot wait until we have a forum of our own so all these thoughts can be analyzed individually in their own threads.

--GakFace

we all owe an apology to Wrkime (spelling)
we've taken over his thread.

sorry, man. a bunch of people have finally met...

ek i fucking hatet hose chills you embrace.

good point, sorry dude, feel free to post about your stuff too. :)

If you guys would like to see this stuff in its own area, think about modifying my sig to hold you name. :)

My mom once told me that when I was very little, and my grandfather had recently passed away, we were driving to town, and I began talking. She asked me who I was talking to and I said "Grampa" I was too young to make this stuff up (like 4 or somthin) and anyway, she asked how he was, and I told her. It happened a few other times as well. I wish I could talk to him now.

ahem, back to the circle of light. Have you tried holding a piece of paper up against the wall over the circle of light? You could then move the paper away, keeping the circle of light on it to see where it came from.

If you have a laptop, it's fan may have turned on while you were away at lunch and blown warm air over your mouse and wrist pad. Or maybe someone was 'borrowing' your computer, and warmed the chair that way.

You mentioned that you have an AC vent below your desk at home. If the heat turned on, it could have possibly warmed the circle on your desk.

Maybe you were smelling pipe smoke. It could have come from outside, and your air vents could have caused the irregular smell distribution.

the globes of light are the only thing scientest, parapsychologests and even movie makers cannot figure out. there is no way to correctly duplicate them due to shadows and what not. people have been trying to figure them out for years.

So here's something interesting...the globe of light is gone. Neighbor's light on or off doesn't seem to matter. The globe of light just is not there. No new vegetation has grown to block our window. Very odd.....oh well.

I haven't worked in my basement office for a while, so I have nothing new from that aspect. Maybe it was all just a bunch of freak occurrences that when lumped together seem like something more.


The whole thing with the globe of light going away is still a bit weird though.

For any of you interested I stumbled across this interesting site the other day.

http://www.ghoststudy.com/gallery.html

Found that site the other day whilst I was searching for some answers and trying to validate that I'm not crazy. It's got some interesting things on it. The pictures in the library are the most unsettling/interesting.

Right now I'm listening to bumps and bangs in the house and getting freaked a little, but I know it's just my kids hitting the wall while they're sleeping, freaky nonetheless.

You all have some really great stories, very interesting stuff. I will post some of the things that happened to me in college in a separate post.

Let me give some background first. The building that I lived in was a house that had been converted to student living, there were about 15 of them on campus. All row houses for the old mills that were in town. There were only nine people living in ours. Our room was on the first floor just off the front door and we had three windows that opened on to the wrap around porch. The walkway to the front porch was half dirt and half pavment so it got a little muddy when it rained....now for the first of many eerie things that happened.....

My roommate and I were just sitting around drinking copious amounts of Coke to stay awake to study. We were shooting the breeze at 3 am when we heard someone come up on the porch. We didn't really think much about this since people came home at 3 am all the time. We heard heavy footsteps go around the porch three times, pausing at the side door-someone else's room and pausing at the front door.

Now we were totally freaked out, but figured that someone forgot their keys. We decided, though it was raining, that we weren't going to offer to let them in unless they asked nice. Moments after deciding that the front door slammed open. The force of the door opening shook the bookshelf on the wall the door hit. We got pissed and decided to investigate.

We both went out ready to kick someone's ass and noticed that there were no foot prints anywhere. No mud. No wet rugs. The door jamb wasn't damaged. At this point the guys in the room above ours were coming down the stairs. They had heard the door and were also pissed. We explained what happened and summarily freaked them out.

We checked the porch, bringing our keys with us, just in case. Not foot prints. We checked the muddy walkway-no footprints. No one could have jumped from the sidewalk to the porch so now, we were terrified.

When we got back inside the two guys from the room in the back of the house were up and pretty pissed off. It seems that someone was banging on their door, very hard and very loud. We all explained what had happened and the terror in our voices and our pallor gave creedence to our story.

That was one of many freaky things that happened. Some of the things happened during the day, others at night. There was no pattern and everyone was experiencing weird things. It went on like that for the two years I lived in that house.

dude..... i figured it out.......

it was a signal for Batman.

:lol: Apparently, he's answered the call. Hopefully Gotham is safe tonight.

Very strange. I've had my daughter's toys make noise on their own. It usually happens when the batteries are running low. If they were from the same kitchen set, that could explain it.

The one you have the best chance of explaining is the light. What you need to do is get your heard right where the light is, even if you have to stand on a ladder. Try and intercept the source of the light with your eye. If that doesn't work, get a piece of cardboard and hold it up to the spot. Make sure the spot on the wall is gone. Now move the cardboard in various directions to see when the spot comes back and when it's gone. You should be able to chase it to its source.

Other than that, do like they do in the movies and find out if anyone was murdered in your house :>

okay, this thread has some seriously freaky stuff in it. I've never seen anything like this but my mother swears she has a guardian angel that she can see every now and then and she even knows his name...

However, I have felt some strange stuff that I don't know how to begin to explain. I've always chalked it up to my mind playing tricks on me. And why does seem that every time I hear about demons they always hide and never come out in the "open" persay? Its in books, its in movies and in peoples posts in this thread... If demons are real and can't be seen anyway, why don't they just walk in the open??

I have about 5 solid ghost/paranormal stories... and I'll share with you sometime, but I'm at work now so I just pose a question.

Those of you w/ spirits in your house (me included) do you feel a bit akward with sex or masterbation? It creeps into the back of my mind at times that someone is disapproving...

I also believe that some one is resposible for waking the kids 9 out of 10 times I'm about to get nasty.

Damn ghost... her name is sarah by the way, she's nine years old and died of the flu many many mnay years ago... My house is just shy of a 100 years old.

Then there that damn Berdella two doors down... had to go and torture, fuck and then chop up gay prostitutes, burying them in his back yard (5 bodies total). his house is gone but the lot is there.

So if anyone knows their seriel killer history and knows Bob Berdellas story... hey you know where I live now come on down.

Another wierd thing that just happened to me just recently.

Alpha phi and I had just arrived home and it was a beautiful night. Not a cloud in the sky. I commented on the stars and continued to look at them. Alpha phi went inside and got on the computer. I always look for shooting stars so I leaned against the truck watching and waiting. I noticed a small white light and watched it for a few seconds. All of a sudden a really tiny light flew really fast next to it. Not fluid movements either, very eradic. I followed the lights and the bigger one stayed on a straight course and eventually the other broke off and flew around a bit. A car drove by the house and broke my concentration. I looked at the car and when I looked back up the lights were gone. I sighed and went inside to tell Alpha phi what I had just seen and he was like " My god I was just about to come out and ask you if you got lost!" I laughed cuz I thought he was joking and pointed out that I'd only been outside for maybe 10 minutes but I doubt even that. He looked at me like I was crazy and said I was out there for over an hour!! I argued with him for quite awhile because I know I wasn't. But then I looked at the clock and was shocked. He jokeningly asked me if I was obducted or something. Before I even told him what I saw!! When my face went slack he asked what my problem was. I told him he wasn't funny and then told him what I saw. I can't explain the time difference. My brain tells me I was only looking at the stars for not even 10 minutes but the clock and Alpha phi say otherwise. I haven't star gazed since. Kinda scared to.

i had a theory a few years ago and I'm curious to what you guys think:

perception. all creatures that see normally see in a different manner and some animals would not even realize that some of us exists until we actually touch them. its where the positioning and the speedo f the being percieves things:

i think maybe some people are wired to see things the normal guy can't.

its far fetched.. but i think the beliefe in the lack of anything supernatural is silly . and i think a lot of ghost stories are too.

you thing to seriously consider though:

a weird sound off and on. creepy. it can be a rat.

you sit and your door opens completely, shuts, then opens again.... dude..... that's no fucking rat....

GStrider: Either they watch quietly or they give me my time, either way I don't feel bad about it. As long as they hide from my eye, I wont' feel freaked. And if they do show themselves, I'm sure the know that I'll talk to them to no end to teach them a lesson ;) I do tho, if they bug me, I just talk to 'em and shit... I say hi to them, and them back. I don't think any of them want to annoy me, as I treat them as equals.

Well, 9 years old and masturbation is still thought ill of, and for sex? 9 years old is that cooties stage isn't it? ;) Also you say the house is almost a hundred years old, well if you go back just 50 years, those things were thought a lot worse than now, AND we're still dealing with a nine year old girl(if it was a guy he'd whack with ya ;), or (sex wise)just watch you instead of waking kids up :D). But yeah that kinda sucks, how do you know all that about her? Find out information about the house? or can you see AND speak with them?


Atropos: Thats freaky cool. I always look up for moving things, and want to talk with them, but thats freaky. As for the abuction, I'd think we'd remember, I still don't know how they could "erase" memories, the only way i could remotely believe that is if you combined atlantis with some aliens. Then you'd have ancient advanced civilization that would know our brains as we're similar in species and even that is a big iffy (the brain eraser part). You did what many of us gamers do, you just completely zoned out. When i'm playing in a good game, I'll say to myself, "Just 10 more minutes Joe, then you gotta do your homework" Then after "10 minutes" I'll stop, look at the clock and find out that it has been 2 hours! I know I was abducted, someone would have known. And notice, since a car distracted you, then that means no cars drove by before that, so you were able to ignore everything except for the UFO's. I would have loved to see that with you. I've seen 2 instances where I believe to have seen a UFO, facinated yet freaked out both times. I'd love to meet one, but I honestly don't know exactly how I would act in the presence of another form of life (no matter how similar) from space.

Z:Yeah I think that holds some truth, not all of it, but some. I mean if i was only in tune with solid objects, then a ghost might be hard, heck this kinda works when a bird flies into a window. It sees thru it and so it doesn't exist in its mind. Heck I can sit in the main room of my house and have 20 people (all at once) walk into the house and pass the room I'm in, and sometimes i'll be so oblivious i won't notice. I've had times where i'd see them go downstairs... then 20 minutes later since seeing them, they'd go downstairs again! heh so yeah, so people(and animals) just won't see certain things... This also goes to show how you can train yourself in some of the "psychic" abilities, as you open your mind more so that you can perceive what you already say....subconciously. Also tho, I think there are some abilites that are unique to people, animals.. and even individuals. I MIGHT be able to train myself to see them, but i'm not sure if I'll ever be able to hear them speak in words. Others who can hear voices, might just be able to train themselves to see too (very wise if you wanna stay out of looney bin), but they may never learn to feel a spirit. I'm sure there are more than just those three, but I kinda of look at those as the general 3. But yeah, thats what I think about that. ;)

Yeah, some things you won't be able to explain, no matter what idea you can think of, some of them are supernatural... period. Its not a rat, Oh the window is open.. differences in pressure made it open and close..... wait, i just sat down as it opened again.. window is closed.. Ah its the rat again... {click}... there its locked and shut now.....

...20 minutes later....

Wtf??? Its open? But i've been hard at work at this report... how'd the door open?

Yeah that might seem really extreme, but I wouldn't doubt it happening to someone, besides the door lock might just provoke them to bang on the door, which would REALLY freak you out, and slow you down as now you're constantly hiding out at the door so you can open it up and scare the person who is behind the door (even tho you know that nobody else is home).

Psychic abilities eh? hehe.. I reckon I can sense people looking at me.. like ESP.. but I think everyone has something like that. I firsted reckoned it when I was little on a paper run. ok I wasn't THAT little, around 15, but yeah I was on my paper run and it was like a tingle in my mind from the direction, after I put the paper in the letter box I turned my head real fast in it's direction, I have NEVER seen curtains move so fast in my whole entire life. hehe :D
These days it's just automatic, I think people think I'm just weird when I look at them when they're looking at me from a distance.

And why don't Demons walk around for everyone to see, cause most people don't believe in them, if they WERE to walk around in plain sight then then that'd open up the to the probability of god which is what they're trying to prevent.

i'd kill to get MRIs on all of us weird motherfuckers.

i dunno about psychic abilities. i just say:

there's a whole lot of shit that happens that we cannot explain.

i just remembered one connection to me. in dec. '99 til mid -jan 2000 i was in the hosp including ICU for three or so weeks. i kept passing out like sporaticly. no rhyme or reason.

once i passed out and mom was at home asleep. it was a tough one. abou 20 mins later i called mom. couldn't get her........ then she walked in.

said she was asleep when she 'heard' mee. she came imediatly. this-is-just-one-of-many-things-i-experience-very-often.
not like once a year or some what. some of us have really really fucking weird lives. me included.

so to completely say 'there is absolutely nothing to believe in but people and animals on earth', to me, is like say "I know you have the flu but i can't see the germs with my naked eyes, therefore it doesn't exist!!!"

i don't get complete full skeptisism. hell, i'm a skeptic until i check shit out. but i know its quite possible.

anyhow

random rant

<b>GakFace</b>

I know the history from the nieghbors. Also from her name etched in one of the beams in the basement.

I've never "seen" her. But I hear her all the time. Coming up the stairs and up in the attic. I found a bunch of her toys under the floor boards as I was ripping them up months ago. Doll dresses so old they pretty much crumbled when I touched them.

woah.. interesting thread.. I'd have my own to add but I've got other things to type at the moment..

adding to my list of things to do.

I have one experience I'd like to share but, I have to idea if it deals with the "supernatural" per say.

Several years ago, I remember vividly waking up in the middle of the night from a peaceful sleep in cold sweat. But that wasn’t all as soon as I woke up I had an intense feeling of something being serious wrong and that someone had been killed. This plain freaked me out, because this feeling didn’t just come and go, it lingered with me for several minutes. I mean this feeling was so strong that I can’t describe it in words. I remember looking at the clock and trying my best to shrug the feeling off and go back to sleep. After God knows how long I managed to fall asleep. As it turns out later the next day my parents got a call from my aunt saying that my cousin had died last night in a car wreck a little after midnight. Which it turns out was about the same time I woke up and freaked out. Personally I don’t know what to think about the whole thing.

prophecy: exactly. your 'connection' cut off when he died, shocking your system, thus awakening you.

how many people here have known something is just not right with someone we are 'connected' to?

another example:

one of my best friends and I connected. she lives about 1,200 miles from me. if i felt sick, she'd call with no tip off. if something happened to her, i'd feel it. I'd call and find out what is wrong.

I do not mean like 'oh yeah i broke a nail' or a sittuation where you can throw any possibility to fit. i'm talking possible serious effects. a friend was devestated once, thought she had aids: I felt it. she had a really bad fight with her b/f. i felt it.

to deny our sight of such instincts, of such evidence screaming "look at me" is just insane.

Z-had the same feeling once...I had a dream that one of my college friends was in trouble and needed me. I woke up and realized I had no way of finding her. I had no phone number or anything. Oddly enough, she called me the next day, she had broken up with her b/f and was devastated and wanted to talk to me. It was a freaky thing.

Here's my only direct paranormal experience. It's so minor that you'll probably snicker at me, but being an engineer, it's very significant to me.

When my wife and I were dating, we used to spend a lot of time on the phone because she lived 50 miles away. One night we had been talking for some hours, when we decided it was way past time to be in bed. We said our goodnights and hung up the phone, but I heard her say "Oh, wait!" So I diled her back again. Only as it was ringing, I realized that it was in just the order I wrote it: I had hung up the phone and <i>then</i> heard her say "Oh, wait!" And I also realized that I didn't hear it with my ears. It was clear as anything, her voice, in my head, but there hadn't been sound. She picked up the phone, and I didn't quite know what to say. Sheepishly, I said "Um, did you say "Oh, wait!" right as we hung up just now?" There was a long pause. She said, "No, I didn't <i>say</i> it, but right after I hung up I thought it. I remembered something I wanted to tell you." Every hair on my entire body stood straight up. (and that's a lot of hair). It was the strangest experience I've ever had, and there's no "logical" explanation for it.

wrkime
Is it possible the light on the wall was a reflection from a CD? That's happened to me before and it hardly needs any light to make a visible reflection. Maybe someone moved the CD, and that's why it's disappeared.

Id move :(

tooo poltergiesty for me

Okay, I'm gonna take my shot at this, and spill some crap, too. I know this thread is old, but what the hell. Kadath has a great point: once you get freaked out by something, you'll be even more sensitive to it. Take a deep breath and relax. Put some music on or whatever to get your mind off of it.

The most interesting part of your post, to me, was the "hot spots" you mentioned in your house. I've done some research on paranormal (due to some peculiarities of my own house) and found that 'hot spots' are unique to paranormal research. Mostly because they can be measured. If they extend to areas of your house instead of chairs and objects, especially if they are combined with the smoke smell, you might want to search online for more information. They could be linked. As for the pipe smell itself, I dunno. You should research a few items for your own sanity: the history of your house and previous occupants; and the history of the land. If the house is old, focus on the first one, if the house is new, focus on the second one.

My house is 15 years old. Previous owner was single, and she had been married twice. We did not find out what happened with the marriages. One of her front bedrooms had been decorated with lots of antiques. Bedframe, dolls, etc. When we first viewed the house, she showed us a 100-year-old wedding gown she had just bought. I thought it peculiar, but interesting just the same. When we moved in, my computer room was in the other front bedroom, and for the first year we lived there, the antique room was just darker than the rest of the house. As I walked by to my computer, I occasionally thought I saw male figures in the room, out of the corner of my vision, but brushed it off. I knew it was freaking me out, so I ignored it. There was just a presence to that room that was nowhere else in the house. But then the smoke smells showed up a year later, in odd spots in the hallway. When I was out at work and my wife at home, she would hear footfalls coming down the hallway towards our room. They were so realistic she often thought I was home. They began occurring at night, also. It was unmistakeable. I would hear them come down the hall and stop in front of the closed door, sometimes going back down the hallway to where the floor doesn't creak. I slept facing the door for a year. We also experienced some warm spots in that odd room which were too far away from the floor mounted heater vent.

At this point, we began dreaming up stories of what fate the previous owners' husband had met, and joked about the two freezers she had kept in her garage. One hot afternoon, we were cleaning up left-behind stuff on the side of the house with a rented pickup truck, and found two odd items. One of them was a rather freaky looking totem pole (I still remember the top face). The other was an item tightly wrapped in plastic, and rather heavy. By shape, it would be the exact same size as a human thigh, and weighing possibly twenty-five pounds. We did not unwrap this item, although we should have. It was not potting soil as it had little 'give' to it, and did not bend in any way. It was quickly loaded into the truck and driven to the dump. Good riddance.

The upstairs phenomena continued. After writing to a California paranomal society and getting no response, I took my own course. I know this sounds silly, but hey, you never know what you'll do until you're faced with it. I began talking to them. Out loud. I'm happy to report I heard no verbal response. I began telling them they really were keeping up awake and freaking us out. I asked it if would be okay for them to go next door, or even down the street. I was really trying to be nice. Within a month, the phenomena stopped. I'm hoping for good. Except....

Our house was listed for sale last summer. All of the agents who toured it were jealous of our selected agent: they knew the house was in tip-top shape, had beautiful landscaping, and would sell quckly. While no noises showed up during the time it was for sale, no offers did either. We only experienced two odd things during this time: one shopper expressed to our agent that our house was 'too clean.' The other we watched: from a block away, we viewed a family and agent get out of the car, and walk to the front door. Someone spotted something near the front door, and they never went inside. They quickly got in the car and left. What did they see??? Our agent was not able to get any information from this, but I still wonder. I want out of this house.

I'll take some time later and describe a few other freaky items that occurred during my childhood.

Hey, are we going to get a paranormal board on tfp?

Wow, there's a lot of people on this thread. Cool!

One item I wanted to mentionthat goes right back to Kadath's early post: smell and memory are very well linked. They are side by side in the front of your brain. This is why you can easily remember the smell of Grandma's house, or Grandma's cooking.

Next, Atropos4: if you're s/o is gonna leave you outside for over an hour, he should be smacked upside the head! In fact, give him a good smack for me when you see him again! :)

Finally, I'm so glad to see so many people sharing these stories without any interjected jokes or people telling us that we're nuts. Very cool.

Found some links I used previously.

Bay Area Paranormal http://www.linkdot.com/altbapi/
Atlanta PS: http://the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/

I found the source of the light. It appears that on certain nights our neighbors (plural) lights reflect in a certain way that it shines on our wall through the gap between the window and the shade. PHEW!!! So far that's the only explainable thing I have found.

:( not Batman, wrk?

yes this is a good thread where we aren't flamed or called loonies

::shhhhhh, Z:: it was Batman...I'm trying to divert attention from the fact that I'm Batman....

How's robin then? :p

That little, faggety, son of a bitch...he stopped coming around...said that I was getting too old and that I wasn't edgy enough for him ***pause to take geritol*** I don't know where he gets off talking like that...why, in my day........

Why? I'm always outdoors doing different things. He doesn't think anything of it. ;)


speaking of connections

A few years ago my sister was pregnant (4months) and I was working 3rd shift. One night I thought I kept hearing my name over the intercom. I went up and asked my boss about it probably about 4 times. He started to think I was crazy. When I got home that morning the phone was ringing. I picked it up and it was my mom. She told me that my sister was in the hospitol that night and had lost her baby. I broke down. She told me that my sister really needed me and that she had asked for me all night. I asked her if she had called me at work. My mom said they had tried but they didn't know the number.
I knew when she lost her second one also.
I also knew when my sister's boyfriend kicked her out. I was working and all the sudden the thought "he kicked her out" was in my head. Out of nowhere. That kind of stuff happens a lot.

That's really f-ed up Atropos. Sorry to hear about your sister's loss.

You hear about that stuff happening all the time...some kind of telepathy between people that are very close.

More of Gak!!
 

Well then explain this one to me. Remember the Columbia Burn Up? I love space, and the spaceship, I'm not going to be an astronaught or anything, but I just simply love that stuff, and I love watching the shuttle take off and land, its simply amazing. Well I completely forgot when they were going to land, totally slipped my mind, then that morning out of no where (after about 2 hours of sleep.. I don't wake up PERIOD without 3 hours of sleep...[you could drop me to no avail]). I woke up with this horrible feeling. As I said before, I "hear" things thru feelings. I had no clue what this meant, so i just went back to sleep, One hour later my mom woke me up to let me in on the news about the shuttle. That moment it clicked. I woke up the PRECISE moment as it was ABOUT to disentigrate. I felt their horror as they knew they were about to die. That entire day i was not myself. I was just simply there, I tried to be happy and energetic, but nothing.... Really sucks when people wondered about if ANYONE could have survived, and I knew that that THEY knew they were going to die just before it happened. Come to think of it... I bet no one else reading this knew that the astronaughts knew they were going to die. I remembered when i woke up as i looked at the clock (atomic clock, and it shines on the ceiling when the main light in my room isn't on), and times matched up to about when the ship went bye bye.

That one I know the connection. A while ago tho, A month or two ago, I remember just filling up with tears for no apparent reason. I still don't know why, but i became inexplicably sad and teary eyed. Something happened to someone, I only wish I knew who.. :(

Hmm, just realized, I hear my name all the time.. Constantly I'm yelling out to the main room, asking who just called me, yet I always get the answer, "NO ONE!!!" Freaky, Who keeps thinking of me?

JuJuEye : We need to keep this stuff up in order for a paranormal board, I suggest to get word around, you mimic my siggy (the paranormal part obviously), Just switch my name with yours.

Podmore: Nothing is too little... According to many people, all of this is "looney bin" material. They don't realize just how real all of this really is. And if you haven't noticed, you're "minor" thing has only brought up more to speak about!

GSTRIDER: Yeah see? She's just a little girl. That kinda explains why she'd be freaked out when a guy has fun, with or without a woman. As for what she still does there? I have not a clue, but just make sure not to destroy her toys, as if they still exist, I'm sure she loves them.

Has anyone suggested a paranormal board in the " Tilted Suggestions forum?"

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For all those wanting a Forum, Mimic my siggy with your name. Then the more we post elsewhere, the more they'll be reminded ;);)

I've got a few questions.....
 

Okay, let me set my stage for you. I believe in all this stuff, although I've had on rare occasion to see it or experience it. I can count on my hands the number of times I've come up against something I can't explain away and it's never something as blatantly in your face as demonic activity or hostile poltergeists.

I've read over the three pages of replies; I've read countless websites; I've watched endless amounts of television on this; interviewed dozens of folks who have experienced these kinds of phenomena.

Where are all the cavemen ghosts? I'm not being facetious, far from it. If folks have been dying for hundreds of thousands of years how come I only read stories about American Revolution era to present ghosts. I've only heard tales of "recent death" spirits. Everyone tells the tale of the wounded soldier standing outside their door, but never have I seen a story of Grog the caveman walking across the field outside..... Is that clear? :( I'm trying....

If the theory that ghosts are leftovers of horrendous happenings, then do horrendous happenings overlap previous horrendous happenings? :crazy:

Why are orbs such a recent phenomena? I'd never seen reference to ghostly orbs until a few years ago when I saw them on a television show and now they're all over the place. Same thing with "ribbon ecto." Whatever it's called it seems to be a recent phenomena as well.

Like I've said I've had my fair share of spooky happenings as well, but they're relatively tame compared to some of you guys' experiences. I've hit "see my breath" cold spots in houses in the middle of summer. I've seen flashes of figures from the corner of my eyes. I've watched chairs move across the floor by themselves. And I've had a serious staring contest with this guy before....


But again, nothing....nothing compared to some of you. Some of you seem to be communicating with your ghosts....how do you do that? :hmm:

Re: I've got a few questions.....
 

in all honesty I seriously doubt you want to; or at least when its over you'll wish it didn't take place.

seeing inanimate objects is cool, seeing a demon is fucking scary. not scary like a horror movie... true, deep primal fear untill you've seen enough...

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Where are all the cavemen ghosts? I'm not being facetious, far from it. If folks have been dying for hundreds of thousands of years how come I only read stories about American Revolution era to present ghosts. I've only heard tales of "recent death" spirits. Everyone tells the tale of the wounded soldier standing outside their door, but never have I seen a story of Grog the caveman walking across the field outside..... Is that clear? :( I'm trying....

one thing i can offer that may help (though it gives me no solace) is that maybe they had no soul. or maybe they were too innocent to know true evil for what it is, thus escaping murder/violence normally assosiacted with 'ghosts'.

(btw, i still have many doubts and questions concerning ghosts)

one thing that strikes me odd are lack of spirits in hospitals. not a total lack, i've stared one down over a course of hours, but no 'ghosts' or anything. i use to stroll the hiospitals every day cuz i was admitted for weekss. all in all i've probably covered 50+ miles in them to see nothing.

HOWEVER, there are ministers and priests all over. priests rites are possible cleansers and i think this is why.

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If the theory that ghosts are leftovers of horrendous happenings, then do horrendous happenings overlap previous horrendous happenings? :crazy:

because horror would be at its peak with the realization of death, maybe?

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Why are orbs such a recent phenomena? I'd never seen reference to ghostly orbs until a few years ago when I saw them on a television show and now they're all over the place. Same thing with "ribbon ecto." Whatever it's called it seems to be a recent phenomena as well. Like I've said I've had my fair share of spooky happenings as well, but they're relatively tame compared to some of you guys' experiences. I've hit "see my breath" cold spots in houses in the middle of summer. I've seen flashes of figures from the corner of my eyes. I've watched chairs move across the floor by themselves. And I've had a serious staring contest with this guy before....

i have no idea what to say about the globes. its a fuckin mystery. they can't (so far) be caught or captured and masters of graphical skills have had no luck with trying to mimic..... we just don't know.

I know if it turns out to be a lightning bug on crystal meth i'm gonna laugh for years.

i loathe cold spots. that is so fucking fucked up. its another thing sciencetists are baffled about. occasional equipment drops down, what 30 degrees? ass to why, no idea.

the animated objects is what gets me that people see and still say 'oh its not real'.

i wanna see a spirit build like an entired house out of Legos and THEN someone try to disprove it :)

i don't think anybody has a pure answer to why they are unique with their ability to make some kind of communication with the things. it just happens. i just talk in everyday speach, although i've once rebuked a would be attacker through angelica possession, and i listen. i kill all noise, all electro anything. i look and listen... remember they can get their point accross in many different ways.


sorry i'm not much help :(

My guess to why we never see Grog is like this. Before anyeone can see, hear, know... UNDERSTAND the paranormal, they have to be open to it. Well if you aren't prepared to see it, then you chances of it being noticed by YOU aren't as likely. Because of this, we're open to ghosts, and yet we are more open to the sight of people within the last coupla hundred years. And that is why we see them. Perhaps Grog is standing behind me, I don't know, I have yet to open fully to that far ago. Past that, I don't even know what i'm looking for, so I'd probably shove it off for a long time still thinking it was just a blurb.

Of course if you put religion into the aspect, which I personally would do. Then you have to figure out why ghosts are here. Not demons or angels, as they are always here, but ghosts.. ofpeople that once lived. WHY would they be here if God existed? Well some might say that they are wandering the Earth until their Spot in line has reached God, and would begin their Judgement. If this is true, then we don't see Grog because Grog has already been judged, he is no longer wandering the Earth. This of course would also show why we only see spirits within the last hundred years or so. Perhaps that is how long the line is. You could also say that .... Times Change. If the spirit can look like s/he is wearing clothes, then can't they change them?? So times change, and Grog decided why wear a loin cloth when he can be decked out in the best tux you've ever seen? And past that why not shave that beard off, now that you don't cut your chin off in the process. This would make us confused of what we're seeing.

I had yet another Hypothetical situation, but upon hearing that my uncle and aunt had a baby girl last night, my thoughts have wandered off. But perhaps these are idea that might happen.


As to you "nothing compared to some of you." Not really, every Little thing is JUST as great as every 'big' thing. I feel spirits, and i see them with a glance, that is me. I have NEVER seen a chair move on its own. The really warm areas and cold areas? The closest I've ever come to those are the hot and cold spots on my floor, but thats due to the heating (2 story house + tile floor does that). Maybe there are all around me, but since temp changes don't really bother me (especially cold ones), I just don't notice.... Either way I've never noticed the "see your breath" cold spots. So to say you're little stuff is little, well its not. Because we haven't all gone through what you have gone thru, thus making your ventures just as great and amazing,... and Awesome as ours.

--Gak

Re: Re: I've got a few questions.....
 

Yeah people don't die with many thoughts left behind when they're in a hospital, that probably helps. And if they DO die with thoughts left, I assume they'd go THERE, not stay in the hospital... And yeah the Feeling of Priests would be calming, so i doubt you'd see them running or anything

Globes? Spirits playing tricks? Angels with their true light actually shwoing through to our realm? Or aliens confusing us? Who knows... Not I.

Cold spot, again I know not. I feel cold chills all the time, but i feel them anywhere. I have noticed them to be how I "communicate" with spirits/ghosts. So perhaps a cold spot to you, is a happy feeling to me. I would have to team up with you for that one.

Animated Objects :( I have not seen, tho I have seen vehicles drive by (thats my comic relief for the day :))

For me, I talk to them, out loud and sometimes with thoughts, perhaps they can feel what I feel, as I can feel what they feel. The difference between me and you Z, is when you listen to shut everything down, When i purposely try to do that, I have to be in a "religious mode." At that point I seriously feel enlightened as one would put it. There I can notice things like crazy. I feel spirits all around, it is quite amazing. Testing this in a hospital would be weird tho, as then I would be unsure if I was feeling spirits or just living peoples' emotions. But as for normal listening, to me, I've just accepted that I see them at glances and feel them when they are near me or want to "talk" with me. From that they just happen to me on a day to day occurance wheni'm not actively SEARCHING for it. I've spoken with a demon.. in a sense, and yeah i was trying to (he started it... heh) but it wasn't an active.. "I'm going to see a spirit now and talk with him" kinda attidude, just there he is..... "hey whats up?"

Laugh at my antics, reply to my thoughts. I'll give my answer, and then debate for the truth.

if it worked the same for everybody, figuring this shit out would be so much easier.

i dunno either. i wish my memory hadn't failed so bad lately...

Re: Re: I've got a few questions.....
 

Believe you me I hope I never run across something like that. I don't have enough underwear :)

That would be one helluva show with the lego house, eh? :D

Not so, You and Gak have proffered some interesting ideas.

I look forward to seeing more posts on this and hope you guys get your paranormal board.

yeah as he said about seeing demonic shit? Seeing the face of the devil is NOT something you wanna see EVER. I did once.. and holy shit. I mean yeah, it was one of the most beautiful things I ever did see, but the fear that came afterwords.... Something I can never supress. I have supressed the face to where i just see colors, but i can't make anything out... But that fear.... unforgettable evil. Scary movies... blehg, devil face? Something that makes you run.... i did.. i moved FAST when i saw it. Wasn't an ability tho, A friend saw a normal spirit, and told me where to look, so I tried to see it too. I tried SO hard I opened my mind too much, and Satan decided to show up instead. Had it not dawned on me that I was looking at him.. I would have stared for more than half a second, and he probably would have seriously fucked up my mind. I was VERY lucky that day. Problem, once i felt the fear... wow. See If he just killed me, he wouldn't have my soul, but if he corrupted me.. thats another story, so instead he just tried to capture me, My mind just races, and that worked in my favor. Sorry if i rambled a bit, didn't think the thought would cause me too.


Either way here is my tip for you. If you really like this stuff, go for it, but make sure you realize what your going into. And more importantly.. you CAN be toooo Open. Open up all the way and ANYTHING can enter your mind. If you allow that, you might as well disappear from this world, as you won't be any better off sooner or later when a demon realizes it. Hope no one thinks ill of this (non-believers (of God) out there). If you don't believe, well then what about positive and negative energy.. equate it to that. That could simply be our difference, and not a big one in my book. Just take heed to what I have said, and to what others have as well.

to everyone reading any of this:

let gak and myself remind you... and this cannot be stressed enough.... that most likely if you willingly dabble.. you're in for life.

period. gangs make this kind of deal seem easy to leave...

so, if i were you, I would not ignore such things but don't be like 'hey can we talk?!?' its just a bad idea.

i needed a rest badly at age fifteen or so cuz i was having way too much stres physically and the... abilities were simply to heavy sso i prayed to be protected. and i was for years. then I realized i was missing out... so i prayed again and asked for some courage and reopen my eyes.

now i'm 24 and still in the game.


it is awesome, its neat, but i can be a mind breaking game.

Just dont' want it to sound misleading... If you're new to this stuff and you really like it.. Go for it, but don't think of it as a Game. Guess me an Z are just so used to it now, that we do it just like anything else.. so we can joke with the word. But its not a game, its your life, and your soul. Becareful where you wander. And I'm pretty sure I can speak for Z, When I say that we got your backs if you ever need the help.

sorry me and gak are posting so much.

i said 'the game'. 'the game' i refer to is broad.

my life is a game. everything to me is a game... bad analogy i guess.

and yeah like gak said i'm more than willing to talk and help anyone with problems in this area.

-wave-

Fortunately, I haven't had any type of paranormal experiences as of yet. However, I find all of this incredibly interesting.

I'd love to hear more!

In my opinion I would think that the reason you don't see spirits in the hospitals is because that is not the location that means anything to them...it is only the place their body expired. I would think that if something is strong enough for them to "stay" it would be from an emotional tie...be it bad or good. So yes, while they may die in a hospital....if their heart lies in a certain spot that is where they will go back to. Not sure if you get my meaning with that but...
I am big on the idea that, not only on the fact that there are spirits (for lack of a better word) out there but that animals have the ability to "haunt" us as well. My Mother phoned me one night totally freaked out....she was reading her book and felt her cat jump up on the bed and walk along side her leg and lie down. She (engrossed in her book) reached out to pat it and felt nothing.....then she looked up and saw the cat was curled up, fast asleep on a chair beside her bed. She looked down and could see the INDENTATION the "ghost" cat was making.....she could feel it against her leg.
Bizarre.