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Gebbinn 07-16-2003 08:16 PM

Superstition, what do you believe
 
OK, food for thought, at least for me. I recently found me a new girlfriend, who tends to be rather superstitious. I myself have very very few superstitions, in fact only two that I can think of offhand.. but being with her, it tends to rub off a bit.

Personally, my only real superstitions that I have ever believed are

1. always hand a knife back to a person in the same position it was handed to you.. IE never close a knife someone opened, never return a knife that was closed if you leave it open... I have been cut one too many times NOT to believe that one.

2. Never walk under a ladder... thats common sense, cuz shit tends to fall on my head every time I do.

What got me thinking on this was that my Girlfriend got freaked out by a red moon tonight, and we had to turn around and come home, she wouldnt go out..(go out in this case entailed a little late night tryst in the middle of a corn field... im still horny) So blood on the moon means bad things will happen I am told.

So here is the topic at hand, what superstitions do you hold, and why do you hold them?

spectre 07-16-2003 08:19 PM

I really don't have any superstitions that I'm aware of. I'm a little uptight when it comes to handwashing, but that's not a superstition, it's a sign of being a little neurotic. :)

Fake Alias 07-16-2003 08:22 PM

I dont believe in any forms of superstition or bad luck, or any form of luck for that matter. If you walk under a ladder, you will not have bad luck. This is comon sense. Life is all chance (as I refer to it). If you win the lottery or if your parents die, its not because your lucky/unlucky, or cursed/blessed. Its just part of life.

So to answer your question, I do not believe in superstitions :)

anti fishstick 07-16-2003 08:23 PM

i have weird supersititions prolly cos i come from a different culture originally. heh i believe moths can/may be a dead spirit of a deceased relative coming back to look upon you :-x

Fake Alias 07-16-2003 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anti fishstick
i have weird supersititions prolly cos i come from a different culture originally. heh i believe moths can/may be a dead spirit of a deceased relative coming back to look upon you :-x
Hope not, I murder moths daily.

MSD 07-16-2003 09:00 PM

Interesting on that moon one. I love being out under a blood moon or a full moon. To me, it adds to the atmosphere.


I don't believe in many superstitions, but that thought on the moth just stopped me from flattening one that's fluttering around my computer screen. I'm not saying that I suddenly started believing it, I just didn't really feel like killing it anymore.

anti fishstick 07-16-2003 09:09 PM

ohhhhh! another superstition that is completely illogical, silly nonsense but that i would never try because it does freak me out (kid story you know..) is... bloody mary. where you're in the dark looking in the mirror and you say her name over and over and supposedly your face is replaced with hers and she's holding this knife out.. and yeah.. freeky.

and about the moth thing i dont know. its not that EVERY moth is a spirit. i think mainly that they can embody the moth..or something. but they're free to come and go from that body whenever. so its all good if they die :P moths have short life spans anyway right.

i just have a sortof freaky story that a moth was in my late <i>lola's</i> (grandma) room when the windows and doors were closed and everything so it couldnt have possibly gone in. and that it was fluttering around but RIGHT when they found out grandma died.. the moth died too. so moths symbolizing life? or something.

like a moth from the flame...

now everytime i see a moth in my room i think o no there's lola ;P and she's seeing me masturbate. ahhhhhhh

crow_daw 07-16-2003 09:58 PM

I'm one of those people who makes a wish every time one of those make-a-wish oppurtunities comes up, and thats about all I can think of.

MikeyChalupa 07-17-2003 04:25 AM

I believe that if I forward a chain letter to all of you, I will get a million billion dollars, and if I don't I'll die.

-Mikey

bigoldalphamale 07-17-2003 05:01 AM

i believe that when i smoke pot...bad things inevitably happen to me.

absorbentishe 07-17-2003 06:08 AM

I have just a couple.... I won't sit with my back to the door, any door, but esp. public places. This is my main superstition

But as for sports, when I used to play baseball/basketball, and still now for golf... I do the same routine all the way down to driving the same way to get there. If by chance I went a different way and did well, then I would change. Silly isn't it!

Destrox 07-17-2003 07:06 AM

I"ll say things such as "Wow, thats some bad luck"

But I really dont honestly beleive in it.

I take life with a very scientific approach, so things such as superstitions, ghost, religions all dont apply.

But for some people doing certain things that help them get thier day through, power to em. :)

more fire 07-17-2003 07:15 AM

I knew a hungarian guy who insisted on having every window in his house shut, because he thought evil mythical hungarian monsters climbed into your house through your windows. Very strange.

Lebell 07-17-2003 09:25 AM

The only silly superstitions I follow are:

-Knocking on wood
-putting money in a wallet or billfold before giving as a gift.

eci 07-17-2003 12:15 PM

I've got the whole sitting facing the door thing, but that's largely because I don't like people sneaking up on me.

I also tend to knock on wood, and I'm a stickler for routine so I tend to feel uncomfortable doing things a different way.

For those of you who have seen Final Destination, I also do the suitcase tag thing :)

Jim Kata 07-17-2003 12:23 PM

Everytime I have Deja Vu I say "Deja Vu like a motherfucker" no matter where I am or who is around. It doesn't have to be loud or anything, but it has to be audible to me. I think that is more OCD or something like that rather than superstitous.
And also when someone says "today is a good day", I feel the need to say "Let's keep it that way."

World's King 07-17-2003 12:26 PM

Well, I'm not blind and I don't have hairy palms so...

Mel 07-17-2003 01:18 PM

I think if you believe in them then they can come true :eek:

Eviltree 07-17-2003 03:32 PM

I'm sure I have some superstitions, but I can't think of any right now

rogue49 07-17-2003 04:44 PM

I have whatever superstition suits my mood.
sometimes I'm paranoid,
sometimes I'm not.

Mr Scorcex 07-17-2003 04:59 PM

I'm supertitious about how I drive. I try to be pretty careful and courteous, fearing that if I drive like an a-hole a bus will broadside me.

Mongolguy 07-18-2003 09:25 AM

If a black cat crosses my path, I have to spit on the crossing point and pass on the side of the cat. that way all the bad luck stops befor the spit and can't get me.
Crossing on the other side is a sure way to get screwed! ;)

Double D 07-18-2003 09:31 AM

I beleive in self-fulfilling prophesies.

CSflim 07-18-2003 10:11 AM

Nope. No superstitions.

sub zero 07-18-2003 01:38 PM

The boogy man is for serious.

yournamehere 07-18-2003 01:41 PM

It's bad luck to be superstitious.

Donkeypuncher 07-18-2003 01:53 PM

I believe I can keep doing it til I just need glasses.

Rodney 07-18-2003 02:10 PM

I occassionally throw salt over my shoulder after spilling it.

Other than that, 13 is my lucky number. It comes up all the time in everything that I do. 13's supposed to be bad luck, but I'm still here... so it must be good luck.

One other thing: I used to eat at this certain restaurant, and because of the way they priced things and, I guess, because of the particular items I liked, about one out of three times my bill was $6.66 including tax. I pointed it out to the waitress once, and she made a cross sign at me with her fingers.

Mel 07-18-2003 04:23 PM

Don't wish harm on anyone cause it will come back 3 times as bad

Locke 07-18-2003 05:40 PM

I dont pick up any coin that the tails side is facing up. Thats it though.

crayzeeredhead 07-18-2003 06:17 PM

I for one am very superstitious as you well know!! i am very superstious about umbrellas in the house, birds flying in the home, spilled saltr and alcohol(LOL), pretty much evrything so im careful!!

WhoaitsZ 07-18-2003 07:03 PM

the only superstition I believe in is the 'everything comes/happens in threes'.

i never, ever believed in such stupid sounding shit until about two years ago.

now to make myself feel even more silly i forget the main reasons i changed my mind :D

i do remember three deaths happening three times. like 2 1/2 years.... no problems..... them bamo. my nephew, my grandfather, my cousin.. in a month

onen ight we lost a beloved pet, my mother's mom and had a nasty wreck in our yard in the same night.

those there attributed... if i remember i'll post them. i fear i made myself forget why...

Kaos 07-18-2003 07:51 PM

I don't really believe in much superstition, but I am a firm believer in Karma.

GakFace 07-20-2003 01:44 AM

I walk under ladders everytime I see them. And if there are superstitious people around.. I walk backwords back thru it... :)

I remember ONE chainmail that I actually did. It was the Anti-Chainmail. It stated that if you followed the rules, you'd be immune to all the effect from then on. I figured, a lot of this is crazy, but now I have proof, and I did it. :)

I can't really think of anything I'm superstitious about.

warrrreagl 07-20-2003 04:20 AM

When I'm walking with my wife, I won't let a pole or signpost pass between us. I'll go out of my way to get behind her so that we pass on the same side of the object.

I know you're supposed to say "bread and butter" whenever something passes between you, but I never let it get that far.

grayman 07-26-2003 07:47 PM

I'm with Kaos. I believe in karma.

aedenji 07-27-2003 01:20 PM

I am not superstitious but I agree with the hand washing thing
I am a little nuerotic myself

glytch 07-27-2003 01:51 PM

not sure if this is a superstition, but i NEVER wear socks that don't match. Every time i do, shit happens.

Moonduck 07-27-2003 03:36 PM

I'm not superstitious, but I can respect it. Many people in my life are superstitious.

Ether 07-27-2003 04:17 PM

No superstitions at all. If you believe something bad will happen to you after walking under a ladder (or whatever), then something bad will happen. Either the fact that you're thinking about it in the back of your mind might cause something bad to happen... or it's just that a random bad event happens then immedietly it stands out more in your mind because you're expecting that bad thing to happen.

Silly superstitious people.

Jonsgirl 07-27-2003 06:12 PM

I'm really picky about never closing a knife that you didn't open. When I spill salt I toss some over my left sohulder. I try to remember to knock on wood to un-jinx myself; and I never let a swing stop on it's own. I also kiss my wedding ring whenever I take it off, which isn't often. I don't think that's superstitious, just a preference.

bukaki22 07-28-2003 09:57 AM

karma

Ralvek 07-28-2003 05:11 PM

I am very superstitious about sports. I always sit in the same spot during a winning streak and turn my tv to the same volume. During my Wild's Stanley Cup run this last spring I ate the same dinner every night they had a game and sat in the same spot. I kid you not that when they lost I was watching the game at a friggin' bar!

jeenyus 07-29-2003 07:27 AM

234234
 
1.never ever runinto a car wearing a silvernecklace.
2.never jump off a 12 foot story building with a piece of cotton on.

snoop 07-29-2003 04:35 PM

I believe I'll have another beer . . . .

GakFace 07-31-2003 05:28 PM

Jeenyus: not to poke or anything... But isn't running into a car bad luck in and of itself?

if course your second one makes me want to think you're just joking anyways... as only a few people jump off building and its a GOOD thing (Stuntmen)

Mephisto2 07-31-2003 06:32 PM

Nothing.

Superstitious people are stupid.

Life is as you see it.

There are no ghosts, no "superior beings" and probably no other life in the Universe.

Almost 99.9% of every single living human on the planet will be dead in 100 years.

Make what you can of life, as you're dead a long time.

Mr Mephisto

GakFace 07-31-2003 07:02 PM

are stupid? Becareful how you phrase this. You can debate what I think, and what other people think, but to name call will not be acceptable.

As for the debating part. Why don't you explain yourself more as to why there is NOTHING in this vast Galaxy except us. Also how about more reasons as to why Spirits do not exist.

Mephisto2 07-31-2003 07:52 PM

That's a fair comment GakFace.

How about "I believe people who believe in ghosts and fairies and leprechauns are stupid"?

:)

You are also using cyclical argument.

If you believe in ghosts, please prove their existence to me.

You cannot.

Basing one's belief (and this is a core tenet in Christianity also) upon faith raises alarm-bells; at least for me.

The onus is on you, or those who believe in "supernatural" phenomena to prove their existence. Not on me to prove they don't exist.

And, just to clarify, I was not calling names. Just telling it like I see it. I hope I didn't insult you.

Also, I did not say there "was NOTHING in this vast Galaxy" [sic] but us. I said extra-terrestrial life is unlikey to exist.

Are you familiar with Drake's Formula? Before you go plugging numbers into
N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L (see http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/DrakeEq.htm for more info), you should consider Fermi's Paradox

Try the following sites:
http://www.etcontact.net/newsite/Top...sp?Topic=Fermi
http://xray.sai.msu.ru/~lipunov/text/ashkl/node3.html

And most especially:

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/s...ox_011024.html


Have fun and remember... Watch the skies!!!

LOL


Mr Mephisto

dellamag6 08-02-2003 12:58 PM

I believe it's bad luck to sleep with a linebackers girlfriend.

Jasmar 08-02-2003 01:37 PM

I believe in karma and the fortunes I get in fortune cookies and my dreams tend to come true

wario 08-02-2003 05:11 PM

Re: Superstition, what do you believe
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gebbinn

What got me thinking on this was that my Girlfriend got freaked out by a red moon tonight, and we had to turn around and come home, she wouldnt go out..(go out in this case entailed a little late night tryst in the middle of a corn field... im still horny) So blood on the moon means bad things will happen I am told.

Two horny kids going out for a late night tryst in the middle of a corn field with a blood red moon? That sounds like something right out of an 80s slasher flick.

Mephisto2 08-02-2003 07:15 PM

Re: Re: Superstition, what do you believe
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wario
Two horny kids going out for a late night tryst in the middle of a corn field with a blood red moon? That sounds like something right out of an 80s slasher flick.
LOL wario...

Mr Mephisto

GakFace 08-03-2003 04:13 PM

Well, You can't prove they don't, and me being able to see things, doesn't prove to you that they do.

Regardless, THIS is the paranoia boards.. to where the thought that they exist is reality. So on another board, my reasonings would be thee opposing thoughts, but on this board they are not.

And yes, I do believe in God as well. You cannot tell me I am wrong because I you don't see cold hard truth that he does exist, simply because you cannot give cold hard truth that he doesn't.

Mephisto2 08-04-2003 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
Well, You can't prove they don't, and me being able to see things, doesn't prove to you that they do.
So, by your reasoning, the fact that you can't prove 50ft tall women who have rocket launchers as legs and an elephant growing out of their ass don't exist, means that you believe they may?

I think you are showing a misunderstanding on how one proves anything. From an ontological point of view at least.


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Regardless, THIS is the paranoia boards.. to where the thought that they exist is reality.

Good point, but does that mean I can't "play?"

If I don't believe in fairies and leprechauns and ghosts and God, I'm not allowed to post alternative arguments here?

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So on another board, my reasonings would be thee opposing thoughts, but on this board they are not.

Again, good point. And again, vice versa.

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And yes, I do believe in God as well. You cannot tell me I am wrong because I you don't see cold hard truth that he does exist, simply because you cannot give cold hard truth that he doesn't.
I wouldn't dream of questioning your religious beliefs and respect them entirely. I just don't share them.

:)

Mr Mephisto

GakFace 08-04-2003 04:07 PM

Sorry If i looked angry in that... None was intended AT ALL... When I come off that way, please point it out however you want.. Blatently on here.. or in a PM.. I don't care, just let me know, as I hate to come off in such a way. You can argue all you want, sorry for all that.

Personally, to me, anything is possible. No matter how SMALL the percent is... its still there. Also, According to Science, nothing is FACT.. its still a theory, as it is believed to be true, but there may be a time when its proven to be bogus. (:) and no i'm not going to argue the spelling of "AND" :D)


The proving thing wasn't quite meant like that. You were telling me that i COULDN'T prove to you that they existed. I was just pointing out that you can't prove that they don't, where as, my personal experience mean jack shit to you in the ways of proof. Kinda just showing how it kinda goes nuetral in the area.

Btw, your example.. you only said one side.. As I'm sure through Genetics, you could prove that they do not exist.. yet (with all the things going on.. ya never know anymore ;)) but again, this isn't where I was going with this. Sorry about that.

Feel free to play, I was merely pointing out that on these boards that they do exist, so it made more sense for your view to explain why they didn't. Again, what I can say on how they DO exist, will mean nothing to you, as it goes by personal experience.
Ya know its like if you heard someone say, "I know by personal experience that Rocks are the deadliest things known to man. I saw one kill somebody!".. that really won't mean much in the way of an arguement. Since this stuff is still unknown to so many people, it hard to sway on either side. As of right now, I think you either believe in it or you don't, as there just isn't enough studied know-how to sway everyone.

As for the religious thingy.. I wasn't saying anything about you judging my beliefs. I was merely just using another example. As the belief in God is still something where you either do or you don't. As the proof for either side just doesn't seem to translate correctly to the opposing side.

Again sorry for an misinterpretation.

Johnny Rotten 08-04-2003 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
That's a fair comment GakFace.

How about "I believe people who believe in ghosts and fairies and leprechauns are stupid"?

:)

You are also using cyclical argument.

If you believe in ghosts, please prove their existence to me.

You cannot.

Basing one's belief (and this is a core tenet in Christianity also) upon faith raises alarm-bells; at least for me.

The onus is on you, or those who believe in "supernatural" phenomena to prove their existence. Not on me to prove they don't exist.

And, just to clarify, I was not calling names. Just telling it like I see it. I hope I didn't insult you.

Also, I did not say there "was NOTHING in this vast Galaxy" [sic] but us. I said extra-terrestrial life is unlikey to exist.

Are you familiar with Drake's Formula? Before you go plugging numbers into
N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L (see http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/DrakeEq.htm for more info), you should consider Fermi's Paradox

Try the following sites:
http://www.etcontact.net/newsite/Top...sp?Topic=Fermi
http://xray.sai.msu.ru/~lipunov/text/ashkl/node3.html

And most especially:

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/s...ox_011024.html


Have fun and remember... Watch the skies!!!

LOL


Mr Mephisto


Allow me to respond, if I may.

First, there is no onus to prove anything. None of us are attempting to convince you of anything. Your beliefs are your own, and I'll thank you to let my beliefs to be my own.

Second, you have to be willing to believe. You are not a skeptic, Mephisto. You are a cynic. So what are you doing in this forum, save for irritating other people?

Third, when you "tell it like I see it," I would humbly offer a few handy phrases, such as:

In my opinion...

I think that...

It seems to me that...

You see where this is going? Do you see the difference between, "You, sir, are a tool," and "In my opinion, you are a tool"? Don't claim to be stating an opinion when you are, in fact, not using any of the qualifying phrases as provided above.

Fourth, Fermi's Paradox is not a proof or even suggestion of humanity as the sole container of life in this universe. It is a paradox. "Given x facts, why y result?" A paradox cannot really be used to support a belief, only to confound one.

Lastly (fifth, if you're still counting) go ahead and spend a night in a haunted hotel room. Spend a few nights. You have nothing to be afraid of, and I have nothing to prove, so it's a win-win situation.

anti fishstick 08-04-2003 11:54 PM

people can have personal superstitions for themselves. much like people have their own little rituals or routines for comfort, goodluck, whatever.

heh. it's silly but i notice patterns in my life that are freakishly coincedental.. and milk it. like.. the FOUR people i've had more-than-friends relations with were 1) youngest child 2) lived w/ parents and all other siblings moved out 3) lived in a cul-de-sac. 4) have played candyland with me the first time they come to my house. it's initiation dammit :P

Mephisto2 08-05-2003 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
Allow me to respond, if I may.

First, there is no onus to prove anything. None of us are attempting to convince you of anything. Your beliefs are your own, and I'll thank you to let my beliefs to be my own.

Who said I wouldn't let you hold your own beliefs?

The fact that you are not trying to convince me is noted. I didn't think you were, but it's a fair point to raise.

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Second, you have to be willing to believe. You are not a skeptic, Mephisto. You are a cynic.

No. I am simply a non-believer. I may use logical arguments based upon the current Socratic method of scientific "proof", or I may occasionally make cynical remarks.

However, you should be careful in labeling me. :)

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So what are you doing in this forum, save for irritating other people?



Now, that's a bit childish, isn't it?

I'm here debating the issues and contributing to the TFP community.

To be perfectly honest, if I'm "irritating" you, then leave or don't read my posts.

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Don't claim to be stating an opinion when you are, in fact, not using any of the qualifying phrases as provided above.

Now, that's just a silly remark. Should everyone, everywhere predicate every phrase with "In my opinion..."?

Because, using your own argument, it's just your opinion that supernatural events are real; or for that matter, that my arguments are not 100% correct.

Be consistent if you want to be pedantic.

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Fourth, Fermi's Paradox is not a proof or even suggestion of humanity as the sole container of life in this universe. It is a paradox. "Given x facts, why y result?" A paradox cannot really be used to support a belief, only to confound one.

You misunderstand the tenet.

In plain English terms, the paradox states "IF Intelligent life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now. It has not arrived. Ergo, it does not exist."

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Lastly (fifth, if you're still counting) go ahead and spend a night in a haunted hotel room. Spend a few nights. You have nothing to be afraid of, and I have nothing to prove, so it's a win-win situation.

"fifth, if [I'm] still counting"?

Isn't that just a little bit petty?

LOL

With regards to finding a "haunted hotel" room, I believe no such thing exisits. So, finding one would be difficult to start with. But even if I could find an alledged one, why would I do this? I'm not seeking reaffirmation here.

I was enjoying the debate, until you entered the fray with your personal insults and childish comments.

It's interesting to note the difference in tone and quality between the arguments of the other board-members and you, who seem rather defensive.

:)

Mr Mephisto

GakFace 08-05-2003 08:44 PM

Quote:

In plain English terms, the paradox states "IF Intelligent life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now. It has not arrived. Ergo, it does not exist."
Since you and I are debating for what its worth :D... heres one for ya. Now.. Seeing how we humans can only see a small spectrum of the colors that exist. Then couldn't it be possible that they 'slipped' through our defenses and are actually here observing us? I mean we would be unable to see them with our current five senses, and if they aren't making themselves known, I'm sure they'd evade anything that would show them visible to us. This being said.. I'll go back to the Paradox's meaning.

"IF Intelligent life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now. It has not arrived. Ergo, it does not exist."


Now, from my hypothetical situtation... How could we know they have not arrived? Perhaps they have, but we are unable to notice them. I know this is about to sound REALLY Geeky, and on the verge of Dorkish, but think like Star Trek. They would monitor groups, but they would either blend in, or use holograms to "cloak" thier observation base.

And on a side note: This can also be reflected back to ghosts and spirits as well. The normal 5 senses don't notice them, but perhaps there are other senses that we have that can.

Mephisto2 08-05-2003 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
Since you and I are debating for what its worth :D... heres one for ya. Now.. Seeing how we humans can only see a small spectrum of the colors that exist. Then couldn't it be possible that they 'slipped' through our defenses and are actually here observing us? I mean we would be unable to see them with our current five senses, and if they aren't making themselves known, I'm sure they'd evade anything that would show them visible to us. This being said.. I'll go back to the Paradox's meaning.
I'm reminded of Arthur C Clarke's famous saying that "technology of a high enough level would seem to us to be indistinguishable from magic".

I believe most people who "study" (or theorize about) ET life tend to believe that if an advanced civilization reached us it would make contact.

Believing otherwise is certainly an option, but a little paranoid and "Plan B from Outer Space"-like...

:)


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"IF Intelligent life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now. It has not arrived. Ergo, it does not exist."


Now, from my hypothetical situtation... How could we know they have not arrived? Perhaps they have, but we are unable to notice them. I know this is about to sound REALLY Geeky, and on the verge of Dorkish, but think like Star Trek. They would monitor groups, but they would either blend in, or use holograms to "cloak" thier observation base.[/b]
We don't know they haven't arrived. It's just assumed that if they got here, they would make contact.

Fermi's Paradox is not meant to prove anything, but is a thought experiment. And a very good one at that.

Like all statements, theories and "laws", it is based upon assumptions. One of those core assumptions is that intelligent life would not hide itself from us after taking the extraordinary effort of travelling through inter-stellar space. I hate to break it to you, but in the "real world" there is no "warp drive" etc. The speed of light is as fast as it gets.


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And on a side note: This can also be reflected back to ghosts and spirits as well. The normal 5 senses don't notice them, but perhaps there are other senses that we have that can.

Well, ghosts are another kettle of fish entirely. A belief in them posits a belief in the after-life. Something I don't have. It's a bummer really, because I'm not looking forward to dying. But there you go.

And now, finally, for the clincher...

For the record, I personally believe that there IS intelligent life somewhere "out there" in the Universe. I just don't think they're capturing wayward motorists in West Virginia and performing anal probes on them.

Like us, they are doomed to die out in their small, trivial solar system when their sun goes nova.

Isn't the Universe a wonderfully positive place?! :)

Mr Mephisto

GakFace 08-05-2003 11:26 PM

i gotta sleep, but I just thought I'd add, that I'm rather enjoying our debate..

Blazin 08-06-2003 06:11 AM

the only superstition i really believe in is the one about breaking a mirror. 7 years of bad luck is a long time...

almostaugust 08-07-2003 03:45 AM

Im not sure if its superstition, but i generally have this belief about things turning up for a reason. So for instance if i happen across a cool interesting looking book while shopping for something else, ill buy it (without flinching).
I have stumbled across some really cool things this way.

Mephisto2 08-07-2003 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by almostaugust
Im not sure if its superstition, but i generally have this belief about things turning up for a reason. So for instance if i happen across a cool interesting looking book while shopping for something else, ill buy it (without flinching).
I have stumbled across some really cool things this way.

Erm...

What exactly does this MEAN?

If you come across a good book you will buy it? There may be a reason for it?

I'm lost...

Mr Mephisto (who, it appears, is the Paranormal Board's resident sceptic; or so I'm told)

GakFace 08-10-2003 01:46 PM

not sure If i'm catchin' it either.. :)

Just sounds like if you buy a lot of stuff impulse-wise, you'll end up with some freaky cool stuff... (no offense, thats just what i got)

lola218 08-10-2003 04:26 PM

OMG! I believe in so many superstions: the salt thing, black cats( I once cancelled a trip because of an ebony feline), ladders, umbrellas, No shoes on the table, hats on a bed, purse on the floor, knocking on wood, have someone spit on you if you touch maternity clothes if you don't want to become pregnant, and many more. I was brought w/ Polish/Italian /Irish family ( all very superstitious people).

TwistedFate 08-11-2003 02:39 AM

We are getting a little off the superstition topic, but anyway.


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Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
In plain English terms, the paradox states "IF Intelligent life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now. It has not arrived. Ergo, it does not exist."

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I've just recently heard of this paradox but wouldn't the actual paradox be "If intelligent, starfaring, colonizing life outside the solar system exists, it would be here by now"? Because we are intelligent (I assume we rate as intelligent) life and we haven't gotten anybody past the moon, yet. We can't put the race in the paradox on the same level as us or it falls apart, because we aren't going anywhere. We are just starting to get unmanned probes to the 4th rock from the sun. That said, they would also have to be able to colonize, the paradox only works for a self replicating society.
i.e Planet 1 sends out 2 colonies: 10 and 11.
10 sends out 100 and 101 while 11 sends out 110 and 111
100->1000, 1001. 101->1010, 1011 110->1100, 1101. 111->1110, 1111.
Eventually we can't help but be hit that way. but if they are just sending probes from 1 planet it may take billions and billions and billions of years before they get around to our little sector of the sky.


Next, why should we expect some other intelligent civilization to be more advanced than us? Who is to say that we aren't the pinnacle of intra/extragalactic evolution right now? That our nearest neighbors aren't just learning to harness the power of steam, looking up at the stars and waiting for us to stop by and say 'Howdy'?

anti fishstick 08-11-2003 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by almostaugust
Im not sure if its superstition, but i generally have this belief about things turning up for a reason. So for instance if i happen across a cool interesting looking book while shopping for something else, ill buy it (without flinching).
I have stumbled across some really cool things this way.

i dont know if this is the same thing but a friend of mine told me to check out this book called zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. its a really good book but kind of a hard read, etc and everyone he's recommended it to hasn't ever finished it but he thinks i could.. so one day i was going to portland with a friend when we randomly decided to stay in town for awhile at the little downtown area there.. and i'm like... hmmmm used bookstore, we should check it out! i'd never been in there ever before and have always noticed it but its one of those old used book stores in the corner by an alley that everyone always overlooks... but for some reason i felt compelled to go in. so we browse around for awhile, and when i got to the metaphysical/religion section..what do i see but zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance for only $3.50. so i bought it. one of my favorite books. read it twice. life changing :-D to put a twist on things, i told this friend i had gotten the book and the -very- same day, he said he was at the bookstore trying to decide if he should buy zen... for me. but decided not to.

macmanmike6100 08-11-2003 11:25 PM

non-believer

Steffi 08-15-2003 09:19 PM

The main superstition that i have is making sure that i touch glass when going over railroad tracks. Occasionally i will get weird looks, but i've grown up doing this, so it's stuck with me. When i was younger i used to hold my breath while passing a cemetary, but then when i would have to visit a cemetary, i wondered if i should hold my breath while there. I decided that i didn't need to, and i stopped holding my breath when passing them from that day on.

Munku 09-13-2003 11:57 AM

I have NO Supserstitions whatsoever. Nothing freaks me out like that. No black cats, ladders, broken mirrors, knives, moons. Blah I say. I will never believe it.

hunnychile 09-13-2003 02:50 PM

Karma is real.

Superstitions are not.

I've found that people who are superstitious are generally not very well educated or well read. That is a sociological fact determined by region and cultural background. College anyone?

Do it for them.

meff 09-14-2003 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by Kaos
I don't really believe in much superstition, but I am a firm believer in Karma.
Same here. superstition's don't really make sense for me, but I believe if I do good things than good things will happen to me sometime in my life when I need them to.

harhar 09-15-2003 03:29 PM

karma, do unto others ;)

Pheatius 09-17-2003 12:46 PM

If I see a penny face down, I flip it over and leave it. If I see a penny face up, I pick it up and walk away. Not really a superstition, more like a habit.

nightwatcher 09-22-2003 05:18 AM

Firstly, hand washing is obsessive compulsive, not superstition. However, superstition can be obsessive compulsive behaviour. It is just a game that bored people made up to amuse themselves with before they got all fancy and invented religion! As soon as anything changes the way you live your life..it's a problem! Make the black cat take a different path, I say! Walking under ladders and opening umbrellas inside are safety instructions that have made their way into folklore, not recipes for disaster.

However, Sub-Zero is correct when he reminds us of the boogyman being real.

bobw 09-22-2003 05:31 AM

I do some pretty goofy things at the BlackJack table ....

fuzzix 09-24-2003 06:44 AM

I guess the only superstition I have is about not making up nasty stories about people being in nasty accidents or dying - in case something DOES happen to them.

battlemouth 09-25-2003 04:54 PM

i believe that the last bite of food always tastes the best

BulletBob 09-28-2003 06:20 PM

Karma is very real

Fortune Cookies don't count for shit

I never close a knife that was opened by someone else

fallen_angel 09-29-2003 10:15 PM

when i take money and put it into the register i face it all the same way and i always take the first bill ontop no matter what cuz if you skip like you are trying to give them a crisper dollar its bad luck. coins face up are good luck, i never ever pick up change on tails cuz its very bad luck. also salt over the left shoulder if you spill any. cant think of any more right now oh ya and for me i have to count things and even eat the same amount of foods like 2 chips or 4 tomatoes ya know

gwr_gwir 09-30-2003 10:19 PM

I don't have any (serious) superstitions, and I'm not about to get into an argument on karma v. dogma right now.. besides, that would belong elsewhere. What superstitions I do hold, are limited to: 1. Don't run with a knife held at throat level, and 2. you can't play Calvinball the same way twice.

beofotch5 11-01-2004 04:19 AM

its way too early for all of this!

ShaniFaye 11-01-2004 04:44 AM

I could "say" I dont believe in superstitions but...

I still wont..
open an umbrella inside
cross knives
mend clothes while Im wearing them
walk under a ladder
pass anyone on a stair case (If I can at all avoid it)
kill ladybugs
kill spiders

and I DO
lift my feet going over rail road tracks in a car
hold my breath passing a graveyard
eat blackeyed peas on new years
have all my christmas decorations down by new years eve
give knives back the way they were handed to me

I think there are some others but I dont recall them at the moment....both my grandmothers were extremely superstitious women and I had those ingrained in me in a very early age

drivenman 11-02-2004 05:34 PM

i am a superstitous man it has to do alote with were i live here in Texas i have seen some pritty strange things and the blood moon is a verry old superstition in witch i belive in firmly i have chanced the blood moon on sevral ocasions and nothing good has ever come of it have you ever had that erie felling like something bad is fixing to happen but u cant figure out what it is or that someone is watching you but know one is there it makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up and the skin on your face tighten up that is a verry comin thing here people that live here are all superstitous

nomorensx 11-03-2004 09:13 PM

The boogie man is definitely for real!

liquidlight 05-13-2005 11:53 AM

Being Friday the 13th (thank you Templar Knights) I thought that I would give this thread a bump and hopefully learn some more about TFP'ers.

I'm not superstitious about most things, I giggle at black cats, but won't walk under ladders because I'm a klutz and it's faster to go around them. I wonder about broken mirrors but don't stress, I don't think I've ever broken one anyway. Probably the worst that I do is get nervous when my horoscope seemed right that day. How about everybody else?

Seeker 05-13-2005 08:42 PM

Hmm, I heard you should never destroy a picture of someone.

I was mad at my brother when I tore his photo up... and he killed himself about one month later...

I wonder, but I think it was coincidental...

Skelington 05-14-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gebbinn
What got me thinking on this was that my Girlfriend got freaked out by a red moon tonight, and we had to turn around and come home, she wouldnt go out. So blood on the moon means bad things will happen I am told.
?


the only thing i have heard about the color of the moon that has anything to do with the color red is this "Red sky in the morning, saliors warning. Red sky at night, sailors delight." translated, if the sky is red in the morning, there will be a storm, if the sky (or moon) is red at night, there won't be a storm.....

Flip-flop 06-02-2005 02:49 AM

I’m not a superstitious person I’ve never really had anything happen to make me believe otherwise. Though I do think about it like say if a black cat crosses in front of me I’ll joke with myself about it in my head. Between my circle of friends I’d say most of them believe in some.

cellophanedeity 06-02-2005 02:10 PM

I won't give someone a wallet or purse as a gift without giving money in it.
I don't kill spiders.
I make wishes on everything.

ty300x 06-07-2005 08:50 PM

I think superstitions are unlucky.

maleficent 06-08-2005 12:53 PM

If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all... so broken mirrors don't bother me any... Stepping on cracks doesn't bother me.... Someone pointed out to me that I did this one... which was pretty funny when I explained why i did it...

You must hold your breath while going past a cemetery or you will breathe in the spirit of someone who has recently died.


The ones I do beleive in :
Nothing new should be worn to a funeral, especially new shoes. (I don't know why, I just was always told this

When I bought my bed a few years ago, the person who was setting it up, told me it had to face north, because if it faced south, I'd face nothing but misfortune... (I really need to get a compass and check to see if my bed is facing south)

Some of my favorite mom'isms

Dropping an umbrella on the floor means that there will be a murder in the house. (No umbrellas were allowed in the house, they were all out in the garage)

Dropping silverware causes company. Drop a spoon and the company will be female, drop a fork and the company will be male. Dropping a knife causes a disappointment.

You clink glasses of alcohol to scare the demon out of the alcohol.

If your right ear itches, someone is speaking well of you.

If your left ear itches, someone is speaking ill of you.

maleficent 06-08-2005 01:02 PM

Ooooh just remembered one.. I don't remember where this one came from, but it's always been in my head - Supposedly a cricket in the house brings good luck... A few years back, a former aquaintance of mine was having a pretty shitty life...too many kids, no job, blah blah... as part of a joint christmas gift, I included a brass hearth cricket... and not soon after, she got a job, moved to a nicer house, got the car of her dreams... still with her same shitty attitude - I think it was a mighty powerful cricket.

I gave a similar cricket to another friend who also had some good things happen to them...

Pip 06-08-2005 03:21 PM

I have a bit of a fear of jinxing things, sometimes I knock on wood but mostly if there's something good I hope will happen I avoid talking about it. I get a bit nervous when I see shoes on a table too.
Theatre folks are horribly superstitious, which pisses me off sometimes. There was this theatre where the stage hands had special rituals concerning the theatre ghost and told us stories of bad things that had happened when someone had angried the ghost... spotlights falling down on stage during performances and such. When I climbed up in the rafters I saw the reason. The place was a security inspector's nightmare. I've never seen such a mess. No wonder stuff fell down, but they blamed the ghost.

For the record, if you want to see a big tough stagehand turn white with fear, just whistle on stage. :D


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