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K-Wise 09-12-2003 05:23 PM

MTV2's 22 Greatest Bands...
 
So the show was hosted by Rikki Rachman and it was a list of the 22 greatest bands of the past 2 decades I believe as chosen by "the fans" well lets just say most of the time "the fans" suck ass. Granted that the list wasn't as bad as some other "Greatest" lists I've seen in the past but still has a few that really don't deserve to be in there, shoulda been higher, and some who were just plain left out and forgotten about all together. They did get some pretty cool bands on there that aren't normally on these kinds of lists so thats kinda cool. Well here it is starting from the bottom up.

22. R.E.M.
21. Van Halen
20. Limp Bizkit
19. Phish
18. Alice In Chains
17. Dave Mathews Band
16. Korn
15. Aerosmith
14. Oasis
13. The Cure
12. Nine Inch Nails
11. Smashing Pumpkins
10. No Doubt
9. Pearl Jam
8. Green Day
7. Red Hot Chili Peppers
6. Linkin Park
5. Radiohead
4. U2
3. Guns & Roses
2. Metallica
1. Nirvana

Well lotta great bands on there but fuckin No Doubt?! I'm sorry I just don't think they are as good as some of the many bands who didn't make the list at all. Heres just a few ya didn't see

Rage Against The Machine
Tool/A Perfect Circle
Silverchair
Bush
Goo Goo Dolls
Train
Living Colour
The Flaming Lips
The Cranberries
Staind
Counting Fuckin Crows one of my faves ever
Creed (I like em)
System Of A Down

Shit the list goes on with loads of bands they didn't give any mention to that are better than some of the ones that made the list. For instance you got Korn on there already so you don't need fuckin Limp Bizkit there they're pretty much just Korn with bad rap. I dunno if I personally woulda put Linkin Park on my list ahead of some of those others mentioned/not mentioned though I do think they're a pretty damn good band I mighta had them on but definitely not borderline top 5. Well asside from all that the good thing is there aren't too many not so good bands on there. Only a few tops the rest are all either great or pretty/pretty damn good. So what are your thoughts on this list?

Asta!!

Esoteric 09-12-2003 05:27 PM

Overall the list looks good aside from a few bands. I don't think Dave Matthews Band is good, but that's just my opinion.

K-Wise 09-12-2003 05:38 PM

I like Dave cause the arangement of the band is awesome and I think he's a good singer songwriter. But yeah like I said pretty good list I think most would agree with the bulk of the list minus maybe a select few they don't like.

Asta!!

h2ogo69 09-12-2003 06:53 PM

how the fuck can they place linkin park ahead of the red hot chili peppers? linkin park is the fakest most processed thing iv ever heard in rock

DownwardSpiral 09-12-2003 07:00 PM

How the fuck did Limp Bizkit and No Doubt get on the 22 Greates Bands list?!? Bah, just goes to show MTV has no clue what they're talking about.

Plan9Senior 09-12-2003 07:20 PM

Let me remind all of you that MTV is the same people who feel that their very own Carson Daily is an icon :lol: What a joke this list is!


22. R.E.M. OK artist, but top 25? Doubts
21. Van Halen
20. Limp Bizkit ROFL!!
19. Phish Kidding right?
18. Alice In Chains This is getting too funny
17. Dave Mathews Band Top 22? Not even close
16. Korn
15. Aerosmith
14. Oasis excuse me while I vomit
13. The Cure
12. Nine Inch Nails
11. Smashing Pumpkins Once again, good artist but NOT top 22
10. No Doubt Honestly, this has to be a typo
9. Pearl Jam Not a fan, but they have a huge following, they might belong here /shrug
8. Green Day I guess you don't need musical talent to get on this list
7. Red Hot Chili Peppers
6. Linkin Park Boy band with guitars? Common!
5. Radiohead
4. U2
3. Guns & Roses
2. Metallica
1. Nirvana

costello 09-12-2003 08:03 PM

it amuses me that you even care about this mtv bullcrap. they have to pander to a certain audience, therefore leaving the bands that deserve to be on that list left out. if it was me, there'd probabaly be 3 or 4 of those bands on that top 25 list. funniest of all i think is that they put green day up there and not operation ivy. eh :P

Cobalt_60 09-12-2003 08:34 PM

I dont watch MTV. I did way back in the day when they played nothing but music. Dont really care what they consider MTV's Greatest Bands.

K-Wise 09-12-2003 09:50 PM

Hey...Phish are a fantastic band man. Don't downplay the Phish homie ;). Some more bands they didn't give any props to.

Deftones
Blues Traveler
3 Doors Down
Nickleback
Live

etc. All I think are better than Limp and No Doubt.

Asta!!

Double D 09-12-2003 10:53 PM

MTV is Not Relevant
 
To quote from Pete Townshend's Jools and Jim:

Anyone can have an opinion
Anyone can join in and jump
Anyone can pay or just stay away
Anyone can crash and thump


Some bands are popular because they are innovative & creative, some are highly technically skilled, some are great showmen, some are excellent lyrically.

Bottom line is, we like what sounds good to us.
Arguing in generalities (they suck, etc.) about which band is better than the next is pointless.
You're not going to get a person who either loves/hates a band to change his/her mind.

K-Wise 09-12-2003 11:38 PM

Liar!
j/k

Asta!!

bundy 09-13-2003 12:27 AM

this is a large joke.

Linkin Park = no.6 ???

thats got to be the biggest mistake there.
they even put them above RHCP and Pearl Jam!

crackpot 09-13-2003 12:29 AM

God, lists like that make me barf.
But maybe that's the tequila talkin'. 22 greatest bands. Not your favorites. Not the most popular. The greatest.
So, how do we quantify "great"? Not by putting names like Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam and, lordy lord, Living Colour on the list, fer sure. Ugh.
Don't get me wrong; my taste in music runs in that general direction, but please, stop making me barf. Some perspective is needed. 22 greatest bands. Ever, I presume.

Now in the word(s?) of K-Wise:

Asta!!

perripken 09-13-2003 04:44 AM

MTV SUCKS!

Soda_BoB 09-13-2003 06:08 AM

NIRVANA NIRVANA NIRVANA NIRVANA!!

eris 09-13-2003 06:43 AM

Korn? I've got to be kidding me...

Shpoop 09-13-2003 06:54 AM

i agree with everyone else...how the hell did they go and put limp bizkit on there.. they just suck

Gortexfogg 09-13-2003 08:15 AM

Where's Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? They've made albums and videos in the last 2 decades and are better than over 3/4 of the bands on that list...

stldickie 09-13-2003 08:19 AM

Come on now, Phish and Radiohead on any "great" list makes it questionable.

Arc101 09-13-2003 08:36 AM

Quote:

How the fuck did Limp Bizkit and No Doubt get on the 22 Greates Bands list?!?
I don't know, but somone must think putting them there is a great joke !

spectre 09-13-2003 09:05 AM

I think this quote from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back fits MTV's list pretty well:
Quote:

Originally said by Banky:
This is the pulse. And this is your finger, far away from the pulse, jammed straight up your ass. Say, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
:)

perripken 09-13-2003 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gortexfogg
Where's Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? They've made albums and videos in the last 2 decades and are better than over 3/4 of the bands on that list...
Like I said, MTV SUCKS! There is a whole list of bands that still are playing that tower over alot of those bands, Rolling Stone's were left out? Rididulous!

K-Wise 09-13-2003 04:22 PM

Yeah I forgot about Tom Petty there was another one left out that are fuckin phenominal. Just too many names unacounted for

Asta!!

asudevil83 09-13-2003 04:32 PM

my fucking big gripe is that a list of the 22 greatest bands of the past two decades should include bands that have been around for at least half that time....Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit. how long have they been around, 5 years or so.

And, no Rage, Tool, Deftones...that makes no sense.
Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, No Doubt, Oasis, and Green Day should not have made it. its ridiculous. IMO these bands just road the wave of the fads of the time to rise to stardom.

K-Wise 09-13-2003 04:58 PM

I think Oasis are pretty great musically but 1 imparticular is a jackass snob who thinks he's the shit. It was funny when they listed em though cause they showed like 6 guys even Ian Robinson compare them to The Beatles...they just flashed em one by one "Beatles...beatles...Beatles...Beatles..." then it gets to Jim Bruer and it pauses for a sec. "The Beatles? Oasis ain't the fuckin Beatles nobody is the beatles but The Beatles" or something like that. I damn near fell out of my chair.

Asta!!

DownwardSpiral 09-13-2003 07:37 PM

Stupid ass MTV and their stupid ass list, no way the 'fans' put some of these bands on there oh no, these bands paid off MTV for recognition because they know thats the only recognition they'll ever get as far as being one of the 'greatest' bands ever.

Begora21 09-14-2003 06:30 PM

Aerosmith? Limp Bizkit?? Linkin Park?????


Pardon me while I go hang myself

Totally Head 09-14-2003 07:08 PM

Thanks for the post! you have my vote

K-Wise 09-14-2003 07:24 PM

Whoa now...do not talk bad about the Aerosmith. Their most recent stuff might not be amazing but that band is one a the best I've ever heard. Dream On, Janies Got A Gun, Crazy, Cryin, Don't Wanna Miss A Thing, Fly Away From Here, Livin On The Edge, Walk This Way, Dude Looks Like A Lady, Amazing, etc. all great songs, fun songs. Great band Joe Perry is an awesome guitarist and Steven Tyler has madd pipes. Even more amazing is the fact that he can still sing just as good today as he could 30 years ago which is crazy. I think to myself "Theres no way he can still hit those notes on Dream On at his age" and then he does it almost even better than he did the first time. Crazy shit.

Asta!!

SkanK0r 09-14-2003 07:50 PM

I can see how they came up with 1-5, but then they must've stopped trying. Linkin Park!?

meff 09-14-2003 08:12 PM

Where.. Is.. MTV.. Must.. Kill.. MTV

lions20 09-15-2003 05:59 AM

I would have liked to see Mudvayne and Queens of the Stone Age on the list.

JohnnyRock 09-15-2003 11:31 AM

First of all, I'm assuming that this isn't an all-time list [no Zeppelin, etc.]

22. R.E.M.--TOP 50, MAYBE
21. Van Halen
20. Limp Bizkit--HUH?!?!?
19. Phish--NOT EVEN CLOSE!!
18. Alice In Chains
17. Dave Mathews Band--PEOPLE SEEM TO LIKE THEM...NOT ME!
16. Korn
15. Aerosmith
14. Oasis--GOTTA LAUGH AT THIS ONE
13. The Cure
12. Nine Inch Nails
11. Smashing Pumpkins
10. No Doubt--GOOD BAND...TOP ANYTHING, I THINK NOT
9. Pearl Jam
8. Green Day
7. Red Hot Chili Peppers
6. Linkin Park--AAAAARRRGGGHHH
5. Radiohead--OVERRATED!
4. U2--GREAT FIRST COUPLE OF ALBUMS...
3. Guns & Roses
2. Metallica_I'D FLIP-FLOP METALLICA AND NIRVANA
1. Nirvana

pocon1 09-15-2003 05:11 PM

I don't get nirvana. To me, they had a couple of songs. Foo Fighters is better then Nirvana. Hole is better then Nirvana. He was an anchor tied to the neck of radio, and I am sick of his same old whiny songs playing on the radio so many years later. He sucked on a shotgun. That does not make his music great. It just weakens the power of his musical message. Cowards commit suicide. Couragous people strive to make things better. Fuck Him.

sixate 09-15-2003 06:45 PM

This stupid ass list just a reminder, not that I needed one, why I don't watch MTV. It's pop culture is enough to make me want to hurl. Some bands on this list shouldn't even make a top 500 list. What a fucking joke.

K-Wise 09-15-2003 11:42 PM

The worst part about it is it was picked by "The Fans" I know I didn't fuckin pick Limp Biscuit and No Doubt. Other than those 2 which really fuckin suck I think Greenday and Linkin Park are 2 good bands...possibly really good but not fuckin top 20 of the last 2 decades of music. Other than those I think all the other bands on the list are great though(Oasis are still kinda iffy with me though) I would have changed the order around a shit load. This just proves these fans are strictly T.V. fans and fad fans. Cause only MTV would forget how fuckin great Tom Petty, The Counting Crows, Train, The Rolling Stones, Tool, Silverchair, etc. are and stop playing their fuckin videos. Linkin Park are on MTV all the time so of course they were voted onto the list. Eh stupid fuckin choices I'd like to know who these "Fans" are so I can shove records down their fuckin throats.

Asta!!

student 09-16-2003 03:59 AM

watch the vh1 top 100 bands of all time....they did a far better job...zeppelin was 1...i think cream was like 2, van halen 7. they might have actually done some research. if you get a chance watch it.

Tempboy 09-16-2003 11:35 AM

Radiohead sure as hell does belong there.
I wouldn't object if they were higher than fifth place, either.

IckUber 09-16-2003 12:36 PM

Fuck creed in there jesus lovin asses.

K-Wise 09-16-2003 02:10 PM

Yeah I saw the VH1 list. And it wasn't the hundred greatest bands of all time it was the Hundred greatest "hard rock" bands of all time. If it was just greatest bands period ya know they prolly woulda voted the fuckin beatles #1 instead a Zep. That one was a good list but it was also an all time list not the last 2 decades. And I believe Black Sabath was #2 to Zepplin and Cream was #4 I'm not sure. It sounds right. I tend to like VH1's lists more than I like MTV's except for VH1's stupid asses voting Eminem's "Lose Yourself" the #4 fuckin greatest song OF ALL TIME! I think thats a crock a shit. That isn't even the best rap song of the past 10 years let alone of all time. That really pissed me off. I hate how he gets all the credit it absolutely sickens me.

Asta!!

student 09-17-2003 05:16 AM

ah yeh sorry..i saw it awhile ago.

Stare At The Sun 09-17-2003 06:53 AM

Pretty funny, considering MTV never gives those bands awards, or plays any of the music..

mystmarimatt 09-21-2003 04:08 PM

Linkin Park...? Korn...?? i love how most of these bands are the ones that get the most airplay, too. i'm sure that has no effect on the list whatsoever.

K-Wise 09-21-2003 07:36 PM

Maybe we should bombard this post with our own personal Top 20 bands of the past 2 decades eh? :)

Asta!!

battlemouth 09-22-2003 11:19 AM

why must nirvana always be #1??? i should start a band then kill myself and i too will be one of the greatest artists ever

K-Wise 09-22-2003 04:07 PM

Like I said in the greatest guitar players post. It's because Nirvana is a "safe choice" Nirvana is one band everyone can agree on...or everyone doesn't have the heart to not agree on because he's dead. So lord forbid they don't put them #1. I personally like Pearl Jam better but I'm not too vexed at Nirvana being #1 cause I thought they actually were pretty damn good. And you gotta be really good first then die before you get considered the greatest. Ex: Drowning Pool....they just started out....guy died...very sad but they don't get any band nominations.

Asta!!

CyCo PL 09-22-2003 06:11 PM

Re: MTV2's 22 Greatest Bands...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by K-Wise

20. Limp Bizkit

6. Linkin Park

1. Nirvana

Uh uh.

Nope.

Nirvana the #1 band?! I wonder if anybody else sees anything wrong with this. I mean, they wrote some good music, but they are FAR from the best band of the past 2 decades. Kurt Cobain wasn't even half as talented as everybody hypes him up to be.

K-Wise 09-22-2003 09:39 PM

I love to repeat myself....so I won't.

Asta!!

brandon11983 09-23-2003 01:27 PM

My personal critique:

22. R.E.M. A good band, nothing special.
21. Van Halen Talented guitarist, top 22 worthy? No.
20. Limp Bizkit Disgusting, but worthy of the list because they have done a lot for/to modern music.
19. Phish Psshaw!!
18. Alice In Chains Excellent band of the mid 90's. Worthy of the ist.
17. Dave Mathews Band No.
16. Korn Apalling. But again, they are one of the MOST influential bands out there. Look at all the copy cats.
15. Aerosmith Robbed!! Should be top 10!
14. Oasis Good band. Not top 22 material though.
13. The Cure Top 10 for sure.
12. Nine Inch Nails Waaaay robbed. Top 5
11. Smashing Pumpkins Good stuff, top 20.
10. No Doubt I really like Rock Steady, but musically, it is nothing out of the ordinary.
9. Pearl Jam Not sure where to place them.
8. Green Day No arguments here.
7. Red Hot Chili Peppers See #8
6. Linkin Park Someone fetch me a gun.
5. Radiohead I won't complain about this one. Completely unique.
4. U2 Excellent!! I give it #3 slot.
3. Guns & Roses eeeh... good tunes, nothing life altering. Top 50.
2. Metallica Hate the nu-Metallica, but their old stuff was/is awesome.
1. Nirvana No fucking doubts here!! I credit them with giving birth to modern rock music. My favorite band ever. Well deserved.

student 09-24-2003 04:36 AM

sorry...van halen should be top 10. they were the next big band after zeppelin who should be on the list.

cetacean 09-25-2003 02:51 PM

My honest and I am sure unpopular opinion:

Phish is the best band on this list. Their music is complex and amazing, not easily digested by the masses. They actually have the ability to improvise, something missing from most groups these days. You won't catch these guys playing the same set of three minute songs night after night.

ToiletDuck 09-25-2003 04:57 PM

YAY!! finally a list that doesnt have Led Zepplin on it, there is a god.

ForgottenKnight 09-27-2003 11:22 PM

Are you sure this isn't the list of bands with the most air time? Definately not the all time greatest bands list. It's missing way too many great artist.

KWSN 09-28-2003 08:52 AM

My opinion:

22. R.E.M. (Good, yes. 22 greatest EVER? Questionable.)
21. Van Halen (See above)
20. Limp Bizkit (Please tell me that one was a joke... PLEASE)
19. Phish (...no)
18. Alice In Chains (One of thew few that could actually make the REAL 22 greatest)
17. Dave Mathews Band (Talented, sure. 22 greatest, no way in hell)
16. Korn (...not even CLOSE)
15. Aerosmith (They deserve to be DESTROYED for every song they've written since 1990)
14. Oasis (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... ok they're a decent band but PLEASE)
13. The Cure (I fucking love The Cure and have no objection to them being on the list... then again I may be a bit biased cause I've had sex to their music... heh)
12. Nine Inch Nails (They're good. But not top 22 ever.)
11. Smashing Pumpkins (Great band, I suppose you could make an argument for them on this list)
10. No Doubt (NO WAY IN HELL)
9. Pearl Jam (I've never liked pearl jam but I suppose they are decent enough to make the list...)
8. Green Day (hahahahahahahahahahah NO)
7. Red Hot Chili Peppers (Arguable, but possibly enough to make the list)
6. Linkin Park (NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.)
5. Radiohead (I love Radiohead but I don't know if they're THIS HIGH on the list)
4. U2 (I've never liked U2. But... maybe)
3. Guns & Roses (No. They're good, not this good)
2. Metallica (They should have their status revoked just for St. Anger)
1. Nirvana (#1? Ehhh.... Top 22... yes.)

My $0.02

Oh and by the way... some INCREDIBLE artists got COMPLETELY stiffed here... I think personally that the Smiths could take most of the bands on the list... and if this list was supposed to be about INFLUENCE, where are the Sex Pistols? Dead Kennedys? Bad Brains? Minor Threat? Anything that's even a slight derivative of 'punk' that's on the airwaves today owe their careers in large part to at least one of those bands. A lot of other underground bands influenced music like NO OTHER that aren't on the list. Sunny Day Real Estate gave birth to all of the 'emo' music that's so popular today...

Other bands that I'd (personally) put on the list:
SLAYER (best metal band ever? Probably.)
AT THE DRIVE-IN (Not the most popular band ever, but just listen to their music, it's the most innovative stuff out there, the Mars Volta are following right where they left off. Not to mention ATDI had the best stage show EVER. Trust me.)
BECK (Ok, I'm probably gonna get flamed for this one. But I think he's the best songwriter in the last 20 years, and has produced some of the best music, not to mention most influential on the 'indie' scene)
SNAPCASE (Completely biased opinion on my part, as they're one of my favorites, but I think they have the best lyrics and music of any band out there)
GLASSJAW (See Snapcase's description)
THE WHITE STRIPES (Yes, this is an unpopular opinion, with all the 'they have no talent blah blah blah' bullshit out there, but you have to realize that for one thing they have INCREDIBLE lyrics (all written by Meg, for all those that think she has no talent), and Jack is an OUTSTANDING musician, you really have to be a guitarist and see them live to understand how good he is... singing and soloing at the same time is just about the most difficult thing you can do in music. He makes it look simple)

Again, just my $0.02

Atomic Pinkie 09-29-2003 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pocon1
I don't get nirvana. To me, they had a couple of songs. Foo Fighters is better then Nirvana. Hole is better then Nirvana. He was an anchor tied to the neck of radio, and I am sick of his same old whiny songs playing on the radio so many years later. He sucked on a shotgun. That does not make his music great. It just weakens the power of his musical message. Cowards commit suicide. Couragous people strive to make things better. Fuck Him.
He was bipolar. You know what its like to be bipolar? 10% make it out clean. 60% commit suicide, 30% live and are addicted to alcohol or drugs.

Sometimes, the odds are stacked against you.

And how the hell can you take something not music related and turn it into the reason why they are great?

stinkynutz 09-30-2003 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by h2ogo69
how the fuck can they place linkin park ahead of the red hot chili peppers? linkin park is the fakest most processed thing iv ever heard in rock
dude, that is the FIRST thing that i thought about. i almost shit a brick when i saw that.

that just reinforces my belief that mtv has become a complete pile of steaming donkey shit.

Conclamo Ludus 09-30-2003 09:07 AM

Music television my ass. Marketing television, now your talkin'. Aside from the Chili Peppers, Radiohead, The Cure, NIN, Guns & Roses, and an honorable mention of Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Phish. I'll file this list under "kids who buy the hype's top 22 picks."

K-Wise 09-30-2003 11:27 PM

^^ Blame "the fans" cause thats supposedly who chose the list. I don't remember seeing them advertise for it. And don't bad talk Pearl Jam. They're an amazing band and very deserving of the list.

Asta!!

ser1alkiller 10-01-2003 04:53 AM

My views on a few:
20. Limp Bizkit -what were they thinking??
19. Phish -Who the fuck are they?
16. Korn -When are ppl gonna realise, they are shit!
15. Aerosmith -no doubt beating aerosmith, what is wrong with these ppl?
14. Oasis - wonderwall; that's it!
10. No Doubt - I Laugh
6. Linkin Park -Of the last two years maybe sixth best
5. Radiohead - Best band to kill yourself listening to!

flutter_girl 10-01-2003 06:15 AM

*sob* what, no soundgarden? i demand a recount!!!!!! damn mtv....


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