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Sweet American Cars

Oh, I thought we were playing the oxymoron game. Sorry.

/ducks

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Originally posted by lakefire
http://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...6818_image.jpg
http://www.thecarconnection.com/imag...6820_image.jpg

the cadillac CTSv (400hp 6speed rwd) Finally a match for the m5

Actually, the CTS falls in the same category as the 3 series, C-class etc.

On top of that, the new M5 will have over 500hp, the AUDIRS6 has about 450, the Merc E55AMG has 476hp and they all have a far superior chassis when compared to the Caddy.

I prefer a good old Mustang from 1965-1967 over most (if not all) new American cars.

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Originally posted by Nyenrodian
Actually, the CTS falls in the same category as the 3 series, C-class etc.

On top of that, the new M5 will have over 500hp, the AUDIRS6 has about 450, the Merc E55AMG has 476hp and they all have a far superior chassis when compared to the Caddy.

I prefer a good old Mustang from 1965-1967 over most (if not all) new American cars.

well, actually the CTS is bigger than the M5 in almost all dimensions...yet it is also lighter. the only reason it's in the 3 series category is because of the cost. they will sell the CTSv @ $50k compared to the M5 of $78k.

the 2005 CTSv will come out with 500 hp also. :D horsepower wars. woowee!

the Caddy was tuned on the famous Nurenburger (spelling) track in germany and a m5 test car driver was given the keys to the CTSv and pulled a faster time on the track than he could ever w/ the m5.

The GT40 is quite the beautiful car.
I bet it's pretty fast too!

My uncle's car. He did the engine swap and audio system. Custom paint was there when he got it. The link is the album on his son's site.

http://www.the123kid.com/photos/2002...ette/album.htm

http://www.the123kid.com/photos/2002...e/blue0004.jpg
http://www.the123kid.com/photos/2002...e/blue0005.jpg
http://www.the123kid.com/photos/2002...e/blue0007.jpg

All nice cars, except the CTS could use some asthetic work...

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Originally posted by lakefire
well, actually the CTS is bigger than the M5 in almost all dimensions...yet it is also lighter. the only reason it's in the 3 series category is because of the cost. they will sell the CTSv @ $50k compared to the M5 of $78k.

the 2005 CTSv will come out with 500 hp also. :D horsepower wars. woowee!

the Caddy was tuned on the famous Nurenburger (spelling) track in germany and a m5 test car driver was given the keys to the CTSv and pulled a faster time on the track than he could ever w/ the m5.

I don't know where you got that last bit of information. But tested on the Nürnburg ring says absolutely nothing. I could test a Fiat Panda there. It is the results that are important and Cadillac refuses to tell the European press what those results were. So you'd understand if i'm a bit skeptical about those claims. Also the Nürnburg ring was drastically redesigned over the last few years and the old and new track are not comparable time wise.

I agree that the CTS is bigger, however that doesn't decide really what class it is in. It is in the 3 series class mainly on price. But just compare the caddy (or any American car) to a BMW 3/5 or Mercedes C/E in terms of build quality and you'll know what the price difference is based on. Also the Germans keep their value. While a Caddy is totally depreciated in about three years or so :D

According to the Dutch press it has a hard time competing with the C-class and the E-class is in every way superior to the CTS. Since Holland doesn't like the Germans (WW2;)) you can assume that the tests are as objective as can possibly be. However nothing can be 100% objective.

I have read several tests about the Caddy being measured against the 3 series/C class/A4 and the 5/E/A6. All the tests I have read all conclude that it is the best Caddy to date. Which basically means, best for European preferences. All the test drivers were pleasantly surprised with the handling and manouverability(spelling?) But still is no match for the Teutons.

I do have some personal experience with BMW and Mercedes. I own a 2002 BMW 5 series, my father owns the new E-class, the only car talked about here I haven't driven is the Cadillac. I drove a Seville STS once, but as I understand it the CTS is totally different and based on a Opel platform. Opel is a budget car brand in Europe. So it doesn't boast a lot of confidence.

Unfortunately it is a bit difficult to compare between the cars for us, because an American 5 series/E class is pretty different in terms of suspension settings to their European counterparts. So handling on the different continents will be very different.

I am actually quite interested in the CTS, not really to buy. But it is GM's hope to get a foot in the door in the European car market. They want to make their American brands more popular, something which they have failed to do for years. So I really am curious to see how it turns out. Personally i'd like to see it on our roads, something different for a change.

Yes the gnx.....one of the greatest cars ever made.

Shelby Series 1
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...a17f79/i-1.JPG

Shelby 427 A/C Cobra
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...7263/i-1_B.JPG

Dodge Viper
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...1d01/i-1_B.JPG

and you can never forget...
Vector WX3
http://www.fast-autos.net/vector/wx34.jpg
most people don't remember that if this thing had made it to production it would have handed the F40 it's ass... well maybe not, but it would have been right with it! :eek:

more info... http://www.team.net/www/ktud/vector.html

http://www.ridejudge.com/rides/00001539.jpg

and of course, THE sweetest american car EVAR! :D
Saleen S7
http://www.highresautoimages.com/saleen/s729.jpg

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Originally posted by merkerguitars
Yes the gnx.....one of the greatest cars ever made.

agreed....greatest car of the 80's at least :D

Another beautiful car, the 2003 Corvette zo6... for the price it is rediculious. Great handling, a 405 HP normally aspirated 350, and the proven quality of a corvette. Honestly, for the money, I would rather take a zo6 than a viper.

OK is it just me or did cadilac start drawing all their cars with rulers? I think they look like some kind of wana be stelth object. Oh yeah and I just creamed becasue of the GNX.

Man this is cool I tried this thread on another foruims and it died in 3 mins:)

Man that Saleen S7 is beautiful!!!!!!!

Ok - try this one boys, when I was in switzerland in 1992 the prototype of this car was being shown, unfortunatly it never went to production (oops! 3 were custom made and delivered)

Its a Monteverdi Hai 650F1

and I love the sleek lines of it

http://www.fast-autos.net/monteverdi/650f12.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/monteverdi/650f1.jpg

This is a Swiss designed car using a ford cosworth formula 1 3498 cc engine mated to a 6 speed manual box.

548 BHP and claimed top of 208mph

I think the Shelby Seriers One is a sweet car:)

http://home.cogeco.ca/~bwdthunder/ip...ries One-1.jpg

American Car: Definitely the Saleen

Otherwise

1969 MB C111

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/748-1.jpg

Anniversary Cobra

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pi...cobra_10-1.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pi...cobra_10-2.jpg

We've got one at service right now getting some carrier damage repaired. I love the interior in these things.. well, that and the supercharger whine.

Don't have enough time this morning to search for pics, but do a GIS for Cord autos. Beautiful classics from the early years

http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/JoeRush.jpg
And the new gone in 60 seconds gt 500 is a terrible bastardization of a wonderful car. How could someone ruin a gt 500 like that!:eek:

I wondered how long it would take for someone to post the 03 cobra, if it hadn't been posted already i would have. It is a sweet car.

I so badly want a GTO