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soccerchamp76 07-09-2003 09:08 PM

Mercedes SLR McLaren
 
This luxury supercar will have a supercharged V-8 producing over 600 horsepower and travel over 200 mph.

Let's see how the other car manufacturers react to this (BMW, etc.)

KeyserSoze 07-10-2003 06:39 AM

0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds and a price tag of $750000.00:)

But we will be asking about 50 to $100000.00 over sticker price.

Let me know if you're interested in one, I will put you on the list and take you to Hawaii when I get my commission check:D



2003 Mercedes SRL

Base Price: $750,000 (est.)
Price as tested: N/A)
Drivetrain layout: Front-engine, rear-wheel drive
Engine type: AMG 5.5 liter supercharged-V8
Horsepower: hp 557@ 6500 rpm
Suspension: N/A
Steering type: N/A
Brakes: new electro-hydraulic Sensortronic Brake System
Weight: 3000 (est.)
Length, in./mm 179.7/4564
Width, in./mm N/A
Height, in./mm N/A
Transmission: Automatic


Performance Data:

Acceleration, sec, 0-60 mph, 3.9 (est.)
Acceleration, sec, 0-120 mph,10.5 (est.)
Top Speed, 200 mph (est.)
Standing quarter mile, N/A
Braking,N/A
Lateral acceleration, N/A
Speed through 600-ft slalom, N/A



kajagoogoo 07-10-2003 07:12 AM

the SLR rocks! :D

Cynthetiq 07-10-2003 12:28 PM

how can we drool with no pics?????

it's like talking about the nice babe that talked to you.. it's great and all but let's see some pics of the hottie...

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1696-1.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1696-2.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1696-3.jpg

otter 07-10-2003 05:19 PM

Automatic, WTF?? What a waste.

MSD 07-10-2003 07:59 PM

Same reason they have autos in funny cars. With that much power, you want quick, clutchless shifts. With a locking converter, you can get a lot more out of an auto than you would out of a manual.

Jbinh4 07-10-2003 09:35 PM

Auto tranny aside, that is simply a beautiful car.

Deuce66 07-10-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
Same reason they have autos in funny cars. With that much power, you want quick, clutchless shifts
That much power? 600hp isnt that much. Funny cars = over 10khp. I cant think of a car under 2khp that doesnt use a manual tranny..it weighs less, transfers more power to wheels...not to mention more fun to drive =p

ducati999 07-12-2003 10:46 PM

that thing looks reallllly sweet

macmanmike6100 09-08-2003 10:37 PM

wow yeah i saw pics of this car over the summer and wondered just where I could get one Stateside

gorgeous, thanks

Peryn 09-09-2003 07:53 AM

Almost all of the high end exotic cars use some for of auto tranny. Be it paddle shift, or another form of sequential-shift tranny, most do a lot of it with no clutch/pedal from the driver. Makes for quicker more precise shifts and times.


I dont know that i like that styling so much though. The front is very sharp, edgy and aggressive, while the back end is much more smooth and flowing. I think the front half of that car looks kinda out of place on a luxory sports car.

CrazySaturn 09-09-2003 09:02 AM

If it's sequential shift I have no problem, but an auto would spoil it a little, besides performance problems.

Anyways, sweet looking car. For the money I would take the (faster) S7 or CC8S though.

JStrider 09-09-2003 09:48 AM

damn... very nice lookin car... id drive it...

TM875 09-09-2003 03:22 PM

Eeh...not impressed.

For $750k, I want at least 1500hp and top speeds in the 230s. Come on, no sports car is worth that much with so little power.

I'm stickin' with the SL55 for now, thanks.

jhericurl21 09-09-2003 03:27 PM

but can u add a sideskirts and a spoiler to it? :p, personally i think it looks a little odd,looks a little long(kinda like a funnycar/\) and the rims do it no justice(how bout sum 19in spinners :p)


but i'd still go for a skyline

WarWagon 09-09-2003 05:00 PM

Umm, funny cars dont use automatics. They use a straight clutch made of several discs and steel floater plates.

DEI37 09-09-2003 05:53 PM

You're right WarWagon. And, on top of that, they don't make 10,000+ hp. It's in the neighborhood of 5500-6000.

Spyder_Venom 09-10-2003 08:16 AM

People always talk about these "super" cars.... granted they are very nice, look awsome etc. etc..... But think abou it this way, for a 10th of the cost you could have a car running circles around that thing at the track - but it may not get the looks.

Awsome car, just to f---ing expensive.

Scorps 09-10-2003 09:46 AM

Re: Mercedes SLR McLaren
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soccerchamp76
This luxury supercar will have a supercharged V-8 producing over 600 horsepower and travel over 200 mph.

Let's see how the other car manufacturers react to this (BMW, etc.)

OMG now that a benz to buy if your getting one;)

mystic511 09-10-2003 09:48 PM

I can top it,

Bugatti Veyron

Quad Turbo W16 engine. In laymen terms, that's a four turbo 16 cylinder engine.
0-60 in 2.9 seconds
top speed 252
All wheel drive.

$1,000,000 dollars.

I think those stats beat a McLaren F1, which Mercedes seems to have shamelessly included the name of in their exotic sportscar. (at least, i'm under that impression from the title of the thread)

If you're gonna pay 750,000 for a car, might as well throw in another 250k for the best money can buy.

I like the mercedes though, does it remind anyone else of a dodge viper?

Scorps 09-11-2003 07:32 AM

I like the side pic of it....so NICE!

stingc 09-11-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mystic511
I think those stats beat a McLaren F1, which Mercedes seems to have shamelessly included the name of in their exotic sportscar. (at least, i'm under that impression from the title of the thread)

Mercedes and McLaren both designed the car. I think Mercedes owns McLaren now, as all of their recent F1 cars (real F1, not the street car) are called Mercedes-McLarens.

Very sweet car though.

0001 09-11-2003 03:54 PM

eh. I think the various competition has this car beat. Veyron, F1, Murcielago, Zonda... etc etc etc.

I'd still drive it though :D

soccerchamp76 09-11-2003 05:25 PM

If you are going to spend $750,000 dollars on a car, you might also be able to afford a souped-up Lingenfelter Corvette also for performance. Super cars are so expensive because they combine ultra-luxury, super-style, exotic-ness (average person miht ever see on in person, let alone once), and performance.
Sure you can spend $120,000 dollars on a LingenfelterCorvette and get a 0-60 time if 1.97 seconds, but you are still driving a car that most people see every day, or every other day.
When you see this car, you go for a second look.

Yes, the Bugatti can beat the SLR in performance, hell it has 2 more turbos and 8 more cylinders, doesn't take a genious to figure that one out. But the Mercedes has a lot more style, while the Bugatti is an ugly-ass car, albeit one of the, if not the, fastest cars in the world.

In other words, I would take the Mercesdes SLR McLaren instead of a Bugatti. Owning the fastest car in the world would be nice, but this car can beat out 99.99% of the cars made, enough for me.

stingc 09-11-2003 05:45 PM

The difference between driving this, a Murcielago, or anything similar comes down to feel, not ability. The limits on these cars are so far beyond the skills of 99% of the population that magazine numbers really don't matter. The personal excitement a car generates is made up of many more things than skid pad numbers and 0-60.

DiffEng 09-12-2003 09:54 AM

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e/fb1c750e.jpg


Long hood
Short rear deck
Goofy side intake
Side exhaust

Looks like...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fb1c7512.jpg

The Ambiguously Gay Duo's car!


Okay, a friend emailed me this comparison. I think it's funny. And for the record, I like the SLR.

:)

Esoteric 09-12-2003 01:47 PM

That is a nice car.

WarWagon 09-13-2003 05:33 PM

At that price may as well spring for an F1.

bundy 09-13-2003 08:49 PM

i think it looks vaguely like the Batmobile.
it´ll do.
i love it.

actually, i prefer it to the Veyron if we´re comparing to other super-expensive, super-cars.

Peryn 09-14-2003 08:47 AM

What really makes it a supercar. now that i think about it, thats rediculous. Just compare it to a much less expensive Sportcar.

Mercedes 0-60 ; 3.9 sec (someone else said, im just quoting)
03 Viper ; 3.9sec.

Merceded top speed ; 200MPH
Viper ; not positive but new ones around 180 i believe.

Mercedes Power ; 600hp
Viper, 500.


So your paying TEN times as much money for the mercedes brand? Its not much more powerful than an 80k sportscar. Its got a little more power and slightly higher top end. for 10x that of a less prestigious car. Hennessey has shown that if he does the work and if he gives you a completed car (a big if) that the viper can easily be taken to match the power of that mercedes.

I've heard people paying the price for luxory and quality build, but a $650k price tag is a bit steep.


Even for mercedes this thing is way overpriced for its class.

DEI37 09-14-2003 03:10 PM

Peryn...don't forget exclusivity. In contrast to the SLR, Vipers are a dime a dozen. We've got four running around our little town of 11,000. I know of 6 more in the area twenty minutes south of us...some 50,000 people. Plus, the Viper looks like ass, and if you've ever really driven one...and I mean hard...they aren't a whole lot of fun. Especially at high speeds.

MSD 09-14-2003 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deuce66
That much power? 600hp isnt that much. Funny cars = over 10khp. I cant think of a car under 2khp that doesnt use a manual tranny..it weighs less, transfers more power to wheels...not to mention more fun to drive =p
OK OK, you win, we Americans are jujst lazy basteards who can't drive stick :) (not me, I actually learned to drive stick in ten minutes and the next time I did was on a test drive)

kajagoogoo 09-15-2003 05:43 AM

I thought that these went for $400,000 or $500,000

soccerchamp76 09-15-2003 12:37 PM

Sure the Vipers could be as fast the the SLR, but would it a) be as fun to drive b) be as prestigious c) looks as awesome d) be as luxurious? Answer is no.

Even with that, if you were to get a Mercedes tuner on this car you could probably crank out more HP and a faster 0-60 time.

Peryn 09-15-2003 01:14 PM

i totally agree that this car is about far more than performance numbers. You dont buy a high end car for the performance. While its there, you buy it for the image.

If i want a high performance car, i could get an enzo for cheaper than that. If i wanted luxory i could get a Bentley or Rolls-Royce for far less than that. Both of which are for more prestigious than a mercedes - supercar or not.

If that base price IS accurate, it is incredibly high. Too high. You can get better performance, build quality, luxory and prestige for much less than this mercedes.

DiffEng 09-15-2003 01:30 PM

The car is growing on me, and I have no doubt it will be amazing. Personally, I'd rather save money and spend $440000 on the Porsche Carrera GT. That's what it's all about. Full carbon body and chassis, 612hp V10, 0 to 100km/h in 3.5 seconds, 0 to 200kmh in under 9 seconds. Oh yeah.

I sell Porsche, I wonder if I can use my employee discount on that one?

:)

soccerchamp76 09-15-2003 07:01 PM

The Carrera GT is an awesome machine, and faster than the SLR.

But the style of the SLR is better hands down.

I just wonder how fast the SLR would be with a V12 instead of a V8. How about a TT V12? Or one of the Bugatti, a quad-turbo W16?

DEI37 09-15-2003 07:15 PM

Uhh...soccerchamp...the Bugatti is a W-16, not a V12...although, either way, it's an impressive piece of work.

soccerchamp76 09-15-2003 07:39 PM

Whoops....lil mistake there, thanks for catching me there DEI37

But to illustrate the point even more, the SLR has over 600 horsepower with just a V8. If they were to drop a V12 in there, they could easily add another 100-200 more horsepower and drop the 0-60 by a couple tenths of a second.

Mercedes-Benz + V8 + 600+ HP + luxury + side exhaust = awesome car

Stinky Pee 09-15-2003 10:26 PM

Vipers can get that fast, but they have a tendancy to blow engine bits, catch fire, and spew oil when they do.

Here's the world's fastest pickup truck:
http://www.bankspower.com/sidewinder.cfm

It's street legal, a diesel, and does 222mph.

newman 09-16-2003 03:53 AM

Quote:

I cant think of a car under 2khp that doesnt use a manual tranny..it weighs less, transfers more power to wheels...not to mention more fun to drive =p
Does no one like drag racing? Fastest cars at the drags where I live (southern cali) all use autos. There's no substitute for it. Instant shifts and its really hard to screw up in an auto. Any high HP dragster at the strip uses an auto. Unless you're a ricer, cause they think that autos are useless on the strip. Then again, they also think "NAWS" stickers add 20 HP so...

Also, funny cars are hardly a manual tranny. It's basically a modified to shit auto, and some of them use autos. Not to mention if they had 10kHP they'd be going faster than 4.8 second quarters.

DEI37 09-17-2003 03:06 PM

OK...we've been through this before. Funny cars and top fuel draggers make 5500-6000hp. Not 10,000+. Also, they don't use transmissions in the typical sense. It's not an automatic, but it's not a manual, either. There are no gears in these cars. The Pro-Stocks use a sequential style kind of thing. I do hate to say this, but yes, automatics do provide a more consistent time. That's all they are good for. If you bracket race, an auto will be to your benefit. But, those are typically lower powered cars. A good driver in a manual, all other things equal, will beat the automatic by a good margin, usually.

soccerchamp76 09-17-2003 06:25 PM

But we are talking about a fast luxury car.
I mean if you want to spend $400,000 on a super fast manual, buy a Lambo or a Ferrari for the raw power. You would buy the SLR if you wanted power, but ease of drive also, not having to worry about shifting. It is more of a super-fast luxury car.

peacy 09-18-2003 06:18 AM

Where did you guys get the $750000 price tag?
'Cause the UK price will be ~275000 GBP which is ~$440000...

soccerchamp76 09-19-2003 07:02 PM

Awesome video at
http://www.mercesdes-benz.com

Do not go to the U.S. site, go to the international site and they have several wallpapers and a video on the car. Pretty cool.

Peryn 09-19-2003 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by peacy
Where did you guys get the $750000 price tag?
'Cause the UK price will be ~275000 GBP which is ~$440000...

Well, if that IS true, it totally changes my opinion on the car. Not the looks, but the practicality. a 3/4 Million dollar price tag is rediculously over priced. 400k or so is a good price for the performance, prestige, luxory, as well as Rare and Unique factor.

peacy 09-20-2003 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peryn
Well, if that IS true, it totally changes my opinion on the car. Not the looks, but the practicality. a 3/4 Million dollar price tag is rediculously over priced. 400k or so is a good price for the performance, prestige, luxory, as well as Rare and Unique factor.
Well according to the latest UK edition of "Car" it's true... They tend to get car prices right... :)

nickt 09-23-2003 08:21 PM

I heard it would be around $750,000 down here, so $400K sounds about right for the US.

Many of you are talking about what is faster, what has more power, blah blah blah!!!!

If a car is capable of 3.9 seconds or 4.5 seconds or 3.1 seconds, are you really gonna notice it???

Also, are you David Coulthard to be able to drive this thing at its full potential? I would say a big fat NO to the vast majority of you!

Further, when will you ever roll up next to a Bugatti at traffic lights to be beaten if you are in a SLR? Its not like these type of cars are everywhere! Like someone said earlier, most people will never see one, so what makes you think someone who owns one will come across a car which can match it? On top of that, those who can afford these things generally won't want to drag them against anything that pulls up next to them!

This car is sensational for two reasons. One is because it is a hand-made Mercedes which is as rare as tits on a bull, and two is because the performance is up there with the best, but it is still a Mercedes, which has certain connotations to it, like being really good cars that dont fall apart!

And besides, if you can afford to spend $750K on a car like that, I'm sure you aren't looking for something to drive your kids to school in, or race down at the local street meet against the local petrolheads, but something that will turn heads, which this thing will do quite nicely.

soccerchamp76 09-24-2003 01:36 PM

My thoughts exactly, Nickt.

Sure, a McLaren or the Bugatti could beat the SLR 0-60. So if you had the choice between a Mclaren F1, Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari Enzo, Mercedes-Benz SLR; you would choose the McLaren, its the fastest isn't it?

You must factor in the entire car. All the other cars are ass ugly while the SLR is, in my opinion, the nicest and fastest looking car I have ever seen (combines speed looks with luxurious looks).
In my years living, the fastest car I have seen is the Viper. I have probably seen around 5 Vipers, tons of 'Vettes, some M-series, and 1 Ferrari. Now how often will you see a Bugatti, or Mclaren? Almost never

soccerchamp76 10-10-2003 06:35 PM

Some more pics:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1696-12.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1696-11.jpg

http://www.youngbabez.com/mercedes/slr2/pic03.jpg

Deuce66 10-10-2003 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by soccerchamp76
My thoughts exactly, Nickt.

Sure, a McLaren or the Bugatti could beat the SLR 0-60. So if you had the choice between a Mclaren F1, Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari Enzo, Mercedes-Benz SLR; you would choose the McLaren, its the fastest isn't it?

You must factor in the entire car. All the other cars are ass ugly while the SLR is, in my opinion, the nicest and fastest looking car I have ever seen (combines speed looks with luxurious looks).
In my years living, the fastest car I have seen is the Viper. I have probably seen around 5 Vipers, tons of 'Vettes, some M-series, and 1 Ferrari. Now how often will you see a Bugatti, or Mclaren? Almost never

But..the Benz is an AUTO. Autos are BORING, and you have so much less control over your car. I dont understand the point of putting a standard auto on a sports car...it boggles the mind!!

And I agree that all the afformented cars are ugly (including this mercedes POS), but there are plenty of alternatives that arent ugly (Dinan BMW M3, M coupe, Porsche GT2, a lambo, Koenigsegg, etc etc).

And if the fastest car you've ever seen is a viper, you must not live anywhere near me.. =)

stingc 10-10-2003 09:11 PM

I think they should have a manual option, but I can understand why this car is an auto. Its more of a super-GT than a race car. Its target audience is middle-aged men who will have this as one of their fun cars and/or status symbols. The car has enough power that shifting it would just get in the way for most people. The auto has a manual mode anyway (more involved than the normal manual shift on an auto box), and algorithms taylored to sporty driving.

I guarantee that this car would not be boring. I have a modified corvette with an auto transmission. I would have prefered a manual (my autobox doesn't have all the neat stuff that the SLR's does either), but the car is still incredibly fast. Go through a windy mountain road at 9/10, and there is no way that I would feel confident having to think about shifting properly on top of eveything else. And the SLR is (should be!) much faster than my car.

soccerchamp76 10-27-2003 03:20 PM

Whadya know, just some more pics....
http://www.heimsnet.is/hafst/bilar/M...McLaren/38.jpg

http://www.heimsnet.is/hafst/bilar/M...McLaren/30.jpg

http://www.heimsnet.is/hafst/bilar/M...McLaren/45.jpg

Blahman 10-28-2003 01:41 PM

*drool*

Snakebyt 10-28-2003 01:46 PM

Re: Mercedes SLR McLaren
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soccerchamp76
This luxury supercar will have a supercharged V-8 producing over 600 horsepower and travel over 200 mph.

Dont get me wrong, its an awesome car, but for quarter million.. thats a bit steep.. besides the fact i can take a 30K Z28, and less than 10K in mods, and it will run circles around the benz

Snakebyt 10-28-2003 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DEI37
OK...we've been through this before. Funny cars and top fuel draggers make 5500-6000hp. Not 10,000+. Also, they don't use transmissions in the typical sense. It's not an automatic, but it's not a manual, either. There are no gears in these cars. The Pro-Stocks use a sequential style kind of thing. I do hate to say this, but yes, automatics do provide a more consistent time. That's all they are good for. If you bracket race, an auto will be to your benefit. But, those are typically lower powered cars. A good driver in a manual, all other things equal, will beat the automatic by a good margin, usually.

i agree.. autos rock for bracket racing, but nothing better than a stick for heads up racing

bennyb 10-28-2003 02:24 PM

I want this car sooo bad, to bad its too much... way too much :P

monkeysofthebut 10-28-2003 02:52 PM

man thoes are nice

soccerchamp76 10-28-2003 06:38 PM

But will the souped up Z28 look as nice as the Benz? Full leather interior designed by Mercedes?
With these supercars, people bring up that souped up Vettes, Z28's, etc. will be faster; maybe, possibly. But this is a sweet as looking luxury car that cna back its ass up in performance as well. Tt was not designed to be the fastest car in the world, just a kick-ass car that can beat 99.99% cars out there, and look nice doing it.

WireX 10-28-2003 07:15 PM

Ok, that makes me want to splooge, just the way it melds into the car is beautifull. I will never afford one of these, but I can dream (although I would love a veyron)

ace81385 11-12-2003 10:15 PM

That car is so sexy and so expensive !!!


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