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Cuball 01-30-2004 03:25 AM

1 = -1 ??
 
1 = 1 * 1 = -1 * -1 = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i = -1

i = complex


any idea :-) ?

Silvy 01-30-2004 03:34 AM

How do you figure that -1 = sqrt(-1) ?
(3rd equality you mention)

Because that would mean that -1 * -1 = -1 and that isn't the case....

Disclaimer: I'm only so-so in math, so I could be very wrong.

Peetster 01-30-2004 05:20 AM

Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cuball
-1 * -1 = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)
x*x =! sqrt(x)*sqrt(x)

It's only true for positive values of x

Giltwist 01-30-2004 05:25 AM

It's not even true for positive values of x other than 1.

What he is doing wrong is he keeps applying transforms to the right hand side without applying it to the left hand side. Bad algebra! bad! No treat for you.

Jakejake 01-30-2004 10:40 AM

Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cuball
1 = 1 * 1 = -1 * -1 = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i = -1

It would surely be

1 = 1 * 1 = -1 * -1 = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1) = i * i * i * i = 1

Ace_O_Spades 01-30-2004 12:47 PM

as soon as i saw sqrt(-1) i lost it... i was under the impression that it would produce an imaginary number

goddfather40 01-30-2004 06:58 PM

Here is a webpage with some more things like this:

http://mcraefamily.com/MathHelp/Jokes.htm

Cuball 01-31-2004 02:16 AM

Re: Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Peetster
x*x =! sqrt(x)*sqrt(x)

It's only true for positive values of x


idd that's the spoof :-)


sqrt isn't defined for negative numbers :-)

CSflim 01-31-2004 09:47 AM

Re: Re: Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cuball
idd that's the spoof :-)


sqrt isn't defined for negative numbers :-)

sqrt is defined for negative numbers

sqrt(-1) = i
sqrt(-2) = 2i
etc.

the spoof is that
-1 * -1 = sqrt(-1) * sqrt(-1)
is false, not just in this instance using negative numbers, but it is false for all numbers except 0 and 1.
e.g.
4 * 4 != sqrt(4) * sqrt(4)

FleaCircus 01-31-2004 02:58 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim
[B]sqrt is defined for negative numbers

sqrt(-1) = i
sqrt(-2) = 2i
etc.
Actually, sqrt(-2) = i * sqrt(2)

CSflim 01-31-2004 03:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 1 = -1 ??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FleaCircus
Actually, sqrt(-2) = i * sqrt(2)
errk....you got me! :D


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