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Jadedfox 05-25-2004 05:25 AM

Most overhyped game (that is yet to be released)
 
I know this thread is pure speculation but which game do you feel is the most overhyped right now?

My vote goes to Doom 3.

I know, I know I might get falmed for it. But, of the all the screenshots, videos and talk I've seen and heard I'm not really impressed. With all the talk about the hardware specs that would be required for it to run, one would think the graphics would be out of this world, but are they really? I don't think so.

What game do you feel is the most overhyped?

--jaded

Lasereth 05-25-2004 06:02 AM

I can't really make any guesses because that's all they really are --- guesses. It's impossible to know if a game is overhyped until it's released and reviewed. If Doom 3 comes out and ends up being game of the year, then it's certainly not overhyped. :)

-Lasereth

Destrox 05-25-2004 06:33 AM

Duke Nukem Forever.... :D

Jadedfox 05-25-2004 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by Destrox
Duke Nukem Forever.... :D
Haha, good one!

--jaded

Church 05-25-2004 07:57 AM

I know a lot of people are gonna hate me for saying this, but I'm going to have to say Half-Life 2. I admit it looks impressive, but people are treating it likes it going to change the human race and bring world peace when it comes out. Frig, its just a game that looks a little better than the first. :p

the_marq 05-25-2004 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by YoungNastyMan
I know a lot of people are gonna hate me for saying this, but I'm going to have to say Half-Life 2. I admit it looks impressive, but people are treating it likes it going to change the human race and bring world peace when it comes out. Frig, its just a game that looks a little better than the first. :p
Hear hear... I'm so tired of update after update. Just release it already. The whole "it was delayed by a year cause we were h4xx0rd" is retarded.

When it was first announced I was pumped as all get out, after all this bullshit, I prolly won't even bother with a warez copy.

kutulu 05-25-2004 11:29 AM

HL2 has to take the cake. Stupid devs can't get the damn thing on the shelves. It's a traveshamockery.

Stompy 05-25-2004 11:31 AM

I agree on Half Life. Never been into the series.

Doom 3 will be kickass because it's a horror FPS game. It was designed with the intention of scaring the shit outta you!

I'd also like to add Gran Turismo 4. Racing games are boooooring. Not even sure why GT3 is rated so high on gaming sites. IMO, that was one of the most uninteresting games I've ever played for the PS2.

Mr.Deflok 05-25-2004 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by YoungNastyMan
I know a lot of people are gonna hate me for saying this, but I'm going to have to say Half-Life 2. I admit it looks impressive, but people are treating it likes it going to change the human race and bring world peace when it comes out. Frig, its just a game that looks a little better than the first. :p
I don't think Doom 3 has much hype at all.

Rudel73 05-25-2004 12:02 PM

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I'd also like to add Gran Turismo 4. Racing games are boooooring. Not even sure why GT3 is rated so high on gaming sites. IMO, that was one of the most uninteresting games I've ever played for the PS2.
What tha Fudge!? That is by far the most fun and realistic racing sim EVER! Its just your personal taste that you dont like the game, its like my favorite game ever. Don't be Hatin'

Grondar 05-25-2004 05:58 PM

I am going to go with Fable.

The main reason being that it is very hyped, but also because it is so "open" that there are multiple ways in which it can "flop."

Anytime you allow the user an increased amount of freedom, you open up more opportunities for issues/glitches/etc that cause the game to not play as intended.

If everything "works" in Fable it should be a great game.. For me, it has kind of fallen off the radar, but I think there are still a lot of people hyping it up. However, the hype for Fable has seemed to die down, just because it's been awhile, and I'm pretty sure it has been pushed back since it's original release date. And there are other, newer games to overhype now.

I'll likely be getting it, but it just has, and has had, so much hype around it, that I think it will be interesting to see what the finished product looks like.

Also, Halo 2 is pre-ordered "out" everywhere here, and that is likely the most hyped XBox game this year. Having played (and at the final level of) Halo 1, and seeing the mutliplayer preview of Halo 2 at IGN, the game seems to be very solid and insanely fun. However, the game is so hyped, and if one small thing goes wrong or is "missed" in testing, a ton of people will be let down.

Lastly, Full Spectrum Warrior is a game that people are probably mis-informed about, and thus over-hyping. It is a game where you order 2 units of troops around, and they act on their own, in a sense. People that are expecting a Ghost Recon-type shooter are overhyping the game, and going to be let down, because it isn't that kind of game at all. It's not a bad thing, just a different kind of game, and that will likely result in a lot of buyers being letdown.

Apokx 05-25-2004 07:12 PM

Fable,Halo 2 and KOTOR 2..all have me somewhat concerned.

I agree with the Fable post,I really dont want to play Morrowind with a different name.

Halo 2,I've seen one movie..it discussed things new to the Multi-player aspect of the game.A few good ideas,but I hope that wasnt all there was/will be.

KOTOR 2,different team,completely new storyline..will it be an incredibly good game like the original? Or a pile of crap that leeches sales based on how good the first one was.

buclao 05-25-2004 07:16 PM

Jade Empire.

I hear alot of hype for it and don't really feel it that much.

Destrox 05-25-2004 07:28 PM

I'd say if you put HL2 and D3 on a scale of over hype'ness HL2 would come out on top. BUT I also feel that HL2 will end up proving most of that hype to be correct, and D3 will turn out to be just another pretty no mod FPS that will tax your system till 2006.

Similar to how FarCry is just a pretty looking FPS, nothing really special on it. The reviews are so far overhyped its not even funny. The AI isnt really that good ppl!!!! God I am sick of hearing that... k sorry, dont ranting. :P

shaggyy98 05-25-2004 08:09 PM

Halo 2,
I really didn't see what made the first one so good. Just an average FPS.

Johnny Rotten 05-25-2004 08:36 PM

Halo 2 has been, far away, the most intense bombardment I've personally experienced. Even though we've only gotten table scraps so far, every bit of that has been gushed over. I think it's been put on a pedestal by a generation of gamers who didn't get good exposure to the founding games of the genre, but that's probably something best left for another thread :).

MSD 05-25-2004 08:39 PM

Half Life 2. I can't wait for the game, but people are acting like it's the second coming of Christ. I tell them, "You can have fun pouring thousands of dollars into your system to make it run, but I'll be laughing my ass off when I'm playing it at medium-res while your computer becomes sentient and tries to eat you."

Tempboy 05-25-2004 09:28 PM

Doom 3 and Half Life 2 were the games that came to mind.

Ripp3r 05-26-2004 12:01 AM

Doom3 and HL2 will be stunning to say the least, if you have seen the demos and screens. Doom 3 will use new technologies in both the graphical and sound departement

But all this graphical beauty comes at a really high price i think... you will need a killer system to enjoy all the new stuff, not to mention a graphics card that supports all that.

As far as overhyped ... I think the anticipation of seeing it in action is the cause of that ... so many people want to see if the developers can deliver. I'm sure they can, but the real question should be ... is it going to be playable and replayable ?
Multiplayer is what keeps a game alive longer than the single player campaigns and whats the first thing a real fps player does ? right, turning down the settings and tweaking the gui to improve frames per second so he can kill more enemies easier...

so yes, D3 and HL are overhyped, but not too much I think... they will be cool and fun ... but for how long ?

Tusko 05-26-2004 02:39 PM

gta: san andreas

Xiangsu 05-26-2004 02:49 PM

Halo 2

impulse03 05-26-2004 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by rune
gta: san andreas

Lasereth 05-26-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Apokx
Any of those games could go either way,except for WoW which as far as I can tell,is really fun.(except for the rest system currently in wow,which is extremely retarded) \
Damn, what's wrong with the Rest System? Who wouldn't want 200% experience for leaving your character in an Inn? Why do your friends think it's "retarded?"

-Lasereth

hulk 05-26-2004 07:13 PM

I'm going to go with HL2, too. In fact, also Halo 2. And KOTOR 2. Doom 3 not really as much, they're not making it out to be something that it's not. KotOR 2 is one of those 'wait and see' projects, nobody really has a clue how it's going to turn out. Halo 2 is, well, going by Bungie's former sequels, it will be a good game but will add very little to the original in terms of gameplay. And HL2 is just rediculously loved. My favourite is when they refer to it as 'The Source' because, apparantly, no other source code exists. *smack*

H12 05-26-2004 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
I tell them, "You can have fun pouring thousands of dollars into your system to make it run, but I'll be laughing my ass off when I'm playing it at medium-res while your computer becomes sentient and tries to eat you."
I must admit, I enjoyed reading that. Damn those sentient carnivorous computers.

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Originally posted by rune
gta: san andreas
That's my pick...I think it'll still be plenty fun, but I just don't think it'll live up to the hype it's getting.

Lasereth 05-26-2004 07:36 PM

Oh, so this thread is about games that I don't think will live up to expectations?

Ha ha, I get it now. I was thinking about it as if we had to name games that suck even though they got a lot of hype. Had me confused!

What games do I think will not live up to expectations? Doom 3 definitely. Half-Life 2 might live up to its hype...out of pure gameplay, but not graphics. I actually have good hopes for San Andreas. Metroid Prime 2 will probably bomb, or simply be an ok game. Halo 2...I think it'll be a great game, but nothing compared to the expectations it has.

The biggest game that I think won't be as good as the hype behind it is Gran Turismo 4. I'm looking forward to it, but I simply don't think it's gonna be as good as I'm hoping.

-Lasereth

Apokx 05-26-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
Damn, what's wrong with the Rest System? Who wouldn't want 200% experience for leaving your character in an Inn? Why do your friends think it's "retarded?"

-Lasereth


A system where your character gains different amounts of experience depending on how "tired" they are sounds cool to you? We're talking about realism in a game with wizards and undead.

I'd rather be able to log on and take my time doing whatever than to worry about how much of an exp bonus I'm at.

"The reason Blizzard implemented this is to encourage social non-combat activities. One of the great assets of a MMO is the social aspect. By forcing players to take a rest they can enjoy the smaller nuances of the game. this includes fishing and other trade skills. Hanging out at the inns where I'm sure some games etc will be implemented. Also just making the world more complete by having players not just running around killing things as well."

Small quote taken from the forums.Not everyone is into Tradeskilling,I for one am not.I would much prefer to be out slaying monsters or questing with friends,and not have to worry about how large my current experience bonus is.

Another tidbit:

"I agree with you Severe, the rest system should be gone. I hate it! I forgot to log off at an inn last night, and although I was off for 10 hours, my guy was as fatigued as he was when I logged off last night. Now my whole day is ruined with him unless I make a new character, which I do not want to do."

I didnt have time to run to an inn last night,so I have an experience penalty today.

Good stuff.

Redjake 05-26-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Apokx
A system where your character gains different amounts of experience depending on how "tired" they are sounds cool to you? We're talking about realism in a game with wizards and undead.

I'd rather be able to log on and take my time doing whatever than to worry about how much of an exp bonus I'm at.

"The reason Blizzard implemented this is to encourage social non-combat activities. One of the great assets of a MMO is the social aspect. By forcing players to take a rest they can enjoy the smaller nuances of the game. this includes fishing and other trade skills. Hanging out at the inns where I'm sure some games etc will be implemented. Also just making the world more complete by having players not just running around killing things as well."

Small quote taken from the forums.Not everyone is into Tradeskilling,I for one am not.I would much prefer to be out slaying monsters or questing with friends,and not have to worry about how large my current experience bonus is.

Another tidbit:

"I agree with you Severe, the rest system should be gone. I hate it! I forgot to log off at an inn last night, and although I was off for 10 hours, my guy was as fatigued as he was when I logged off last night. Now my whole day is ruined with him unless I make a new character, which I do not want to do."

I didnt have time to run to an inn last night,so I have an experience penalty today.

Good stuff.


They can say it's to make you socialize all they want, but the REAL reason is to keep people from power leveling like a bitch. You can still level up even if you are Normal or even Fatigued. You just won't get as much XP for it. Your day isn't "ruined" if you forgot to rest in an Inn overnight. Just do QUESTS, which do NOT rely on how Rested you are. Do some quests that are heavily dependant on walking back and forth and delivering items. Not a big deal. If you MUST level during your alotted "leveling time" that is set into your daily schedule, just do quests. Otherwise, let your poor character rest in an Inn. It's not the end of the world :) I love the system. By the time my character gets under "Well-Rested" (200% XP) I'm about to fucking pass out anyway from playing the game for so long. I think it's the best system ever implemented in an MMORPG as far as leveling goes.

Apokx 05-26-2004 08:08 PM

I'm not a power-gamer,by far.I get bored too easily,but I still don't see the reasoning they want to end the power gaming.

Once person hits the level cap weeks before others do,whats the problem? Something about alienating players irks me,even if it's "for the best".

You did answer a question I had though,I was curious if it affected quest exp,but it apparently doesent. That kind of makes quests suck,if you cant go below 100% experience from being fatigued.(So where is the benefit from questing?) Do quests give massive exp when you complete them,or is it about the same as experience gained from killing monsters in about the same time as the quest takes?

So many questions
:(

Lasereth 05-26-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apokx
A system where your character gains different amounts of experience depending on how "tired" they are sounds cool to you? We're talking about realism in a game with wizards and undead.

I'd rather be able to log on and take my time doing whatever than to worry about how much of an exp bonus I'm at.

"The reason Blizzard implemented this is to encourage social non-combat activities. One of the great assets of a MMO is the social aspect. By forcing players to take a rest they can enjoy the smaller nuances of the game. this includes fishing and other trade skills. Hanging out at the inns where I'm sure some games etc will be implemented. Also just making the world more complete by having players not just running around killing things as well."

Small quote taken from the forums.Not everyone is into Tradeskilling,I for one am not.I would much prefer to be out slaying monsters or questing with friends,and not have to worry about how large my current experience bonus is.

Another tidbit:

"I agree with you Severe, the rest system should be gone. I hate it! I forgot to log off at an inn last night, and although I was off for 10 hours, my guy was as fatigued as he was when I logged off last night. Now my whole day is ruined with him unless I make a new character, which I do not want to do."

I didnt have time to run to an inn last night,so I have an experience penalty today.

Good stuff.

Another point: Blizzard is making it where you gain Rested Status no matter where you log off. No more worries there!

On top of that, like I said before, even if your Rested Bar is all the way gone, you still get "normal" experience. It doesn't matter if your character isn't rested anymore...you're still getting the experience players are meant to get from enemies. If ya wanna fight that bad, keep fighting...you'll still get the normal experience!

Redjake is right about the quests. WoW is almost entirely composed of quests. I got my Undead Warrior to level 11 without "Leveling up." If I got experience, it was doing a quest. The quests have no impact on your rested bar, either. The Rest System has little impact on most players. The *only* players that are affected are those that want to power level and get to level 60 in a month. Those that are that obsessed level up despite getting normal experience, so it doesn't really matter.

The main points are the facts that no one in WoW simply levels up or goes out to kill monsters. You're constantly questing or on some kind of mission. The experience received from completing these quests is not affected by the rest system. Some quests give you enough exp to gain half a level!

What's the bit about making a new character because he forgot to log off in an Inn? Umm, unless his character was level 3 (which takes 5 minutes to get to), there's no reason to start over. If he can't go for a few hours without playing, that's sad. Furthermore, he can still play, and even get normal experience! People are acting like 200% experience is the normal amount. It's not. 200% exp is a bonus you get for leaving your character in an Inn. You're not penalized for not following this method.

Like I said before, Blizzard is allowing people to log off anywhere in the game and get rested in the next patch, so that's not a valid argument anymore.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 05-26-2004 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apokx
You did answer a question I had though,I was curious if it affected quest exp,but it apparently doesent. That kind of makes quests suck,if you cant go below 100% experience from being fatigued.(So where is the benefit from questing?) Do quests give massive exp when you complete them,or is it about the same as experience gained from killing monsters in about the same time as the quest takes?
My Undead Warrior got about 5,000 experience for completing a 10 minute quest. You get about 50-90 exp for killing an enemy at that level. I could probably kill 10-15 enemies in 10 minutes. I've seen quests that gave enough exp to gain half a level. That's a lot when there's only 60 levels in the game.

-Lasereth

Apokx 05-26-2004 08:18 PM

That's good to hear,changing the rest system to work anywhere you log out is a nice change.

I never made it into the beta,so as far as the rest system being retarded..that was from others I know who do play...and their reaction to it.


At least it isnt the end of the world like it was made to sound.

Probably going to revoke my comment about it being retarded,first hand experience speaks more than hearsay :)


One case I was honestly glad to be wrong in ^_^

Scipio 05-26-2004 09:23 PM

Doom 3 for sure. That's what I thought of when I saw the title, and is the only appropriate answer today.

Mr.Deflok 05-27-2004 01:55 AM

Realistically, how can a game be classed as overhyped if you haven't actually played it?

Jadedfox 05-27-2004 02:29 AM

You can't but that's why I mentioned that "I know this thread is pure speculation but which game do you feel is the most overhyped right now?".

It's just interesting to see what people think that's all.

--jaded

Lasereth 05-27-2004 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Realistically, how can a game be classed as overhyped if you haven't actually played it?
Me and you are probably thinking of the same definition of "Overhyped." I figured it was which game got too much hype and then ended up sucking. I guess everyone else doesn't look at it that way!

The point of this thread is to determine which hyped games right now do you think will ended up being disappointing. That's not really the definition of "overhyped," but I think that's what everyone else means.

-Lasereth

bundy 05-27-2004 03:22 AM

i'd have to say that Half Life 2, Halo 2 and gta san andreas are all really hyped...

but, as Las/Deflok have been suggesting, they won't be 'overhyped' until they're released. (and if they're shit)

Ricer 05-27-2004 04:47 AM

World of warcraft, without one doubt. Its getting an FFXI replay of history already. Super supporter confidence and hype. Then when I finally go out and buy it i find out that it is more entertaining to slit my wrist. The only way an MMORPG nowadays can attract enough people out of the shadow of the other pre-established titans is through fanbase from non MMORPG players, rich people who pay for many MMORPGs, or a combat system that doesnt consist of bunnybashing.

WoW only applies for the first two, so I see FFXI level of hype and failure.

hulk 05-27-2004 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by Ricer
or a combat system that doesnt consist of bunnybashing.

WoW only applies for the first two, so I see FFXI level of hype and failure.

Uhm, people have mentioned the quest aspect of WoW levelling, so it looks like it applies to all 3 =)

Stompy 05-27-2004 05:51 AM

I guarantee you that GTA: San Andreas won't bomb. Rockstar has a lot to live up to and they know it. They've made claims that this sequel will be revolutionary as opposed to evolutionary in the series.

Doom 3 won't bomb. Again, Id has a lot to live up to after Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Wasn't a horrible game, but it wasn't a revolutionary one and certainly not as popular as Quake 3. Doom 3 was written as horror FPS and they said it was guaranteed to scare the shit out of you. Quite a claim, but I think Id can pull it off. They're a very reputable company for a reason.

HL2 and Halo 2... well, those just happen to be, IMO, run-of-the-mill FPS games that sold well. Neither were very revolutionary. Will the sequels do good? Yes, and many people will like them... but does the hype their getting match what will be the end result? I doubt it. More people play Counterstrike, the HL addon, as opposed to HalfLife itself. So unless the multiplayer screams, it'll just be a rehash.

People claim that Doom 3 and HL2 will suck up a lot of computer resources, but I don't think they will. They have to realize that most people will NOT go out and revamp their systems just to play a game... and not everyone has the latest graphics cards, so it HAS to run decently on cards from the past 2 years. It'd be suicide to make a game that does otherwise.

WoW will do great. Again, Blizzard is a very reputable company and when it comes down to gameplay and game mechanics, they're the masters. If other less quality MMORPGs are still up and running (Anarchy Online, for example), then WoW will do great. It all depends on it's gameplay. If it's exactly like Everquest or FF11, then there's not much of a reason for people to play it. If it has it's own unique style of play AND it's fun, then you can bet $$ that it'll do well.

I also think MGS3 is overhyped. I was quite pissed w/ MGS2 considering I paid $50 for it and it was only a 7 hour game. Screw that. Unless this sequel gives me over 20 hours of gameplay, they can shove it. I don't give a shiz how great the graphics look, if the gameplay is lacking, then you're just wasting time.

Metroid Prime 2 will be good, but the coverage is definitely overhyped (concerning multiplayer). Multiplayer Metroid would have to be the most awkward thing ever... and that 4 player split screen crap is goddamn irritating. Metroid isn't a party game. Judging this is a bit premature as they haven't released details on how it will play or how it will differ from the original.

Other than that, most of the games that are being hyped haven't had any real information leaked.

You can dig this thread up later as these games are released if I'm wrong so you can say "I told you so".


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