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Xsas 04-23-2004 11:42 PM

Fight Club Book ending *Spoilers*
 
I did a search and couldn't find anything:

Spoilers ahead:






What exactly happens at the end? Did he kill himself and is actually in heaven? Or was he just really injured, so now he lives in a hospital (white on white, janitor mopping, etc.)

hilbert25 04-24-2004 10:09 AM

It was kinda ambiguous to me, I don't have my copy of the book handy, but I always saw it as still alive, with Tyler either having planned for it or Tyler still alive. I'm pretty sure a space monkey showed up too. And the likelyhood of Space Monkey's in heaven is pretty slim (only one had died that we know about at that point).

Golgothas 04-24-2004 01:07 PM

Spoiler: He's in a mental institution, he didn't die; the bombs didn't work.

DonnieBoy 04-24-2004 02:15 PM

Who wrote this book? And is it called "Fight Club" or something else... never new that the movie was based on a book...

DB

Mr.Deflok 04-24-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by DonnieBoy
Who wrote this book? And is it called "Fight Club" or something else... never new that the movie was based on a book...

DB

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Redjake 04-24-2004 06:25 PM

Fight Club is one of my favorite movies. I have two friends who have read the book. They say it's a lot different than the movie, but they are both great. I'll have to read it sometime.

04-24-2004 07:00 PM

Chuck has a lot of great ideas in the book but he was still beggining as a writer and although he portrayed his ideas well he didn't always write as well as I would have expected. Fightclub the movie is better but Fightclub the book is still a good read.

maximusveritas 04-24-2004 10:24 PM

I thought the book was better than the movie, but that's what I always think. The ending, I thought, was much better in the book. I read it as though it took place in a hospital, probably a mental hospital, but I think it was written ambiguously so that people would think about it and eventually come to their own conclusions.

Golgothas 04-24-2004 11:07 PM

I don't think the ending is very ambigous at all.

Mr.Deflok 04-25-2004 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
I don't think the ending is very ambigous at all.
Really, so what do you make of it?

Speed_Gibson 04-25-2004 12:27 AM

sounds like an interesting ending; might read the book one of these days. I have no real desire to see the movie.

Charlatan 04-25-2004 11:57 AM

Both the movie and the book are excellent.

A lot of people were turned off the movie by the prospect of the violence. All I can say is that it isn't really about the violence per se.

I also thought the movie was one of the best adaptations of a book I have ever seen.

...as for the ending... the end of the book is very clear. He is in an institution and the bombs didn't go off...

Golgothas 04-25-2004 02:25 PM

My take on it is in my spoiler tags.... which Charlatan just said =P

flamingdog 04-25-2004 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
sounds like an interesting ending; might read the book one of these days. I have no real desire to see the movie.
You should. If you value fims at all, it's worth seeing. Fincher does a really good job with the themes.

Speed_Gibson 04-25-2004 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by flamingdog
You should. If you value fims at all, it's worth seeing. Fincher does a really good job with the themes.
Will definitely read the book first if I do watch it; I have yet to see a film surpass the original novel* and prefer to know just what is changed or missing when I see the films.

*or cases like Running Man come to mind where they completely destroy a very interesting, thought-provoking story with an incredibly powerful ending by turning it into a tired cliched action movie :rolleyes: .

kl0pper 04-26-2004 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
Spoiler: He's in a mental institution, he didn't die; the bombs didn't work.
i agree

ive read the book probably 20 times
absolutely magnificent work

Charlatan 04-26-2004 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
Will definitely read the book first if I do watch it; I have yet to see a film surpass the original novel* and prefer to know just what is changed or missing when I see the films.

*or cases like Running Man come to mind where they completely destroy a very interesting, thought-provoking story with an incredibly powerful ending by turning it into a tired cliched action movie :rolleyes: .

I'll say it again... Fight Club is probably the best adaptation of book to film ever done. The film stays very true to the source material.

kutulu 04-26-2004 01:50 PM

Before I saw the movie, a girl I know told me that the movie was about mental health. When I finally realized that Tyler and Jack were the same person I also realized that she said way too much about the movie. It's definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.

ChrisJericho 04-26-2004 02:38 PM

Fight Club is the only case in which I think the movie is better than the book. The book is good, however the writing was just too fragmented and scattered whereas the movie had a clear direction and flowed much better.

I can also say that Fight Club is the only movie that changed my life.

flamingdog 04-26-2004 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
Will definitely read the book first if I do watch it; I have yet to see a film surpass the original novel* and prefer to know just what is changed or missing when I see the films.
I don't compare them. The film is definitive in my view. It captures Tyler Durden perfectly. And it is very close to the book.

Golgothas 04-26-2004 06:01 PM

I love the film but I think it makes the point seem more about anarchy and terrorism and less about the problems of collectivism, the importance of fathers, marla doesn't seem as significant and really about changing yourself to change the world. It also doesn't have a certain scene that better explains why he ends up becoming obsessed with the support groups in the first place.

hilbert25 04-26-2004 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by NotMinus
Chuck has a lot of great ideas in the book but he was still beggining as a writer and although he portrayed his ideas well he didn't always write as well as I would have expected. Fightclub the movie is better but Fightclub the book is still a good read.
You realize it wasn't his first book, right? And his earlier book, Invisible Monsters was actually better in my humble opinion.

kl0pper 04-28-2004 12:07 AM

invisible monsters was written first
it was rejected, and that was the inspiration for fight club

Moobie 04-29-2004 08:16 AM

Wow, I never realized that IM was written first. I always pegged Fight Club as his first one, because as good as it was it just seemed unpolished.

Quote:

Originally posted by Golgothas
I love the film but I think it makes the point seem more about anarchy and terrorism and less about the problems of collectivism, the importance of fathers, marla doesn't seem as significant and really about changing yourself to change the world. It also doesn't have a certain scene that better explains why he ends up becoming obsessed with the support groups in the first place.
I actually thought that the movie did a better job of this than the book. In the movie you actually see that Tyler is not trying to actively hurt people. He makes sure that the buildings are empty. He wants to bring down the social structures that bind humanity, not kill people. In the book he has space monkeys throwing office furniture in to the crowds. So the Tyler in the book is more anarchist and far more violent than the movie Tyler. Movie Tyler is also alot more philosophical.

It's been a while since I've read the book or watched the movie, but I know a running theme in all of Chuck's books is that in order to truly grow as a human you have to do the one thing that you're most afraid of.

Golgothas 04-29-2004 09:56 AM

Terrorism doesn't really require violence, but I see what you are saying. But really, although the movie has many parts of Tyler explaining his views and goals for change, the audience is bombarded with the constant, and highly entertaining, images of Project Mayhem. It may make me sound pretentious, but I think most movie goers think what is happening on screen is what a film is about (and it sometimes is just what is happening on sreen), and don't really look at it enough to think that it's maybe about something more; which is why I think the film ends up appearing to focus on anarchy and terrorism and anti-corporate sentiments. I have friends who don't think fight club is that great and think it's just weird or just some crazy guy that hates his life - which really just makes me totally pissed off =P

Homey_V 04-29-2004 04:59 PM

Personally, from my readings of the book, I think he ended up in a mental institution and the bombs didnt work.

As for the book being better than the movie, the book was FAR better than the movie. I found the style of the writing in the book to suit it quite well. It may be fractured and broken, but so is the life of the main character. Whether or not it was intentional, I didnt notice it at all.

Stompy 04-29-2004 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
I have friends who don't think fight club is that great and think it's just weird or just some crazy guy that hates his life - which really just makes me totally pissed off =P
That's what I think of it! Except, I love the movie.

I've seen it a million times, but all I really got from it is that a guy hates his life and developed some kind of schizo mental disorder in a need to create chaos.

nogoodreason 04-30-2004 10:57 AM

I'm quite certain that he didn't die and that he's in an institution.

One interesting question, earlier in the book there's mention of fathers being our models for God. Then, at the end, he's refering to what I assume is his psychiatrist as God.

I wonder if I'm going to far, but does anyone think the adoption of a new model for God shows a sort of rebirth through the therapy? His doctor is now his father figure, the support group attendees his family? Does that make Marla a mother to him? It was directly through her that he came to this new life...

Am I reaching here? Probably.

Golgothas 05-01-2004 03:40 PM

You're not reaching too far, although I wouldn't say he has adopted the pyschiatrist as a new model for his father, but that the psychiatrist could be viewed as one; as he is trying to indoctrinate him with ideas that are contrary to the narrators beliefs.

Marla is definately not just a girlfriend to the narrator, but I wouldn't say she is a mother figure exactly. I think she is more of a dysfunctional representation of women, possibly like the narrators mother - he never mentions his mother, just his father, except for once when he mentions them together. Though the fact that his mother fell for a guy like his father probably says something about his mother, since we can assume Tyler is a close representation of his father, and marla fell for Tyler. Marla also seems to be more of a threat to the Tyler pesona and the collectivism of all men; there is something very important about just having one female figure aswell.

Although, as a symbolic part of his rebirth, combined with the father-figure of tyler and the psychiatrist, I think it's a good assessment to say she is like a 'mother' to the narrator.

animosity 05-02-2004 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
I have friends who don't think fight club is that great and think it's just weird or just some crazy guy that hates his life - which really just makes me totally pissed off =P
yea i have some friends who dont care for the movie.... but they are stupid.


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chuck is a great writter. i have read all of his books(except invisible monsters) id say my favorate was Survivor.


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