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ninety09 12-15-2003 05:01 AM

Spiderman 2
 
http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/sony/spiderman2/

I didn't like the first one that much, but this one looks promising!

Conclamo Ludus 12-15-2003 08:06 AM

That looks great. Alfred Molina looks awesome as that Octopus guy. Good trailer, I didn't know they had one yet.

Lasereth 12-15-2003 08:14 AM

The trailer came out at midnight this morning. I wasn't a big fan of the first one, but that trailer looks awesome. Hopefully Parker won't be a dick like at the end of the first one!

The composer (Danny Elfman) composed Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissorhands, Batman, etc. You can tell the Spiderman 2 theme has the same man behind it (very awesome music in the trailer!).

-Lasereth

Conclamo Ludus 12-15-2003 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
The trailer came out at midnight this morning. I wasn't a big fan of the first one, but that trailer looks awesome. Hopefully Parker won't be a dick like at the end of the first one!

The composer (Danny Elfman) composed Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissorhands, Batman, etc. You can tell the Spiderman 2 theme has the same man behind it (very awesome music in the trailer!).

-Lasereth

I don't think you should do a comic book movie without Danny Elfman on the score anymore. He did the Hulk also. I'm a big fan of his music, his dramatic scores are among the best.

Redjake 12-15-2003 08:50 AM

Danny Elfman (somehow) makes musical scores that fit movies PERFECTLY. Like you sit there thinking "this IS the Spider-Man song! it always was! someone just had to produce it."

He's a damn genious!

Same with Batman and Edward Scissorhands

Cynthetiq 12-15-2003 08:55 AM

:) i have been a fan of Danny since the Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo, his first soundtrack being The Forbidden Zone, directed by his brother, Richard Elfman.

I did like the first one, liked it alot, I watch it all the time. I'm looking forward to seeing just how this franchise evolves, since the Batman franchise was killed by Joel Schumacher.

which reminds me... let me push play...

JohnnyRock 12-15-2003 09:12 AM

I am a big Fan of the first one, and anything Spidey...I can't wait for this move!!!! It looks awesome!!!

Cycler 12-15-2003 09:54 AM

If Elfman is on board at least it will have some redeeming quality. I didn't realize Elfman did the Hulk usually I pick right up on his scores. Another reason to like the Hulk, huh.

Daval 12-15-2003 10:24 AM

That trailer looks awesome, I can't wait!

July is so far away!

Fremen 12-15-2003 11:08 AM

Anybody know how to get this to "save as" so I can download this while I sleep, please?
My 56k makes this an hour-long or more job. (slight exaggeration) :rolleyes:

Halx 12-15-2003 12:03 PM

HOWWWWWWLL

Doctor Octopus looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

I can't wait!! This is gonna be awesome!

sixate 12-15-2003 12:04 PM

I absolutely loved the first one, and this looks even better!
I can't fucking wait.

Bill O'Rights 12-15-2003 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
I absolutely loved the first one, and this looks even better!
I can't fucking wait.

I know. I feel like a kid...is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet?

drag0nmanes 12-15-2003 02:30 PM

whoa, Dr Oct looks pretty good. Can't wait til this summero to go see it..=)

Moskie 12-15-2003 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fremen
Anybody know how to get this to "save as" so I can download this while I sleep, please?
My 56k makes this an hour-long or more job. (slight exaggeration) :rolleyes:

I read in the comments on Slashdot that they imbedded the file pretty damn deep into things, making it (as of yet) inaccessible.

The comment on Slashdot: http://features.slashdot.org/comment...45&cid=7725688

But there's hope! A link to a torrent of it from that thread: http://www.cyberyoda.org/download.ph...er.ogm.torrent

NeverBorn 12-15-2003 04:00 PM

Spiderman Spiderman Neverborn will watch it till it ends..again..and again

diergray 12-15-2003 04:25 PM

That is one of the best previews I have seen in a while. That car scene is excellent!

BuddyHawks 12-15-2003 04:26 PM

Oh man, I cant wait till the friendly neighborhood Spiderman comes back.
http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/...spiderman2.jpg

Hrothgar 12-15-2003 06:25 PM

I loved Spiderman as a kid but this franchise just isn't doing it for me.

Fremen 12-15-2003 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moskie
I read in the comments on Slashdot that they imbedded the file pretty damn deep into things, making it (as of yet) inaccessible.

The comment on Slashdot: http://features.slashdot.org/comment...45&cid=7725688

But there's hope! A link to a torrent of it from that thread: http://www.cyberyoda.org/download.ph...er.ogm.torrent

Damn.
Oh well, thanks for the info, Moskie.
Someone will figure it out.

Da Munk 12-15-2003 07:07 PM

This makes the comic geek in me as giddy as a school girl.

Batman976 12-15-2003 07:30 PM

Looks pretty good. I don't think I'm quite as excited about it as some of you guys, but I'll definately go see it sometime.

archer2371 12-15-2003 08:23 PM

Sweetness, I loved the first one and I can't wait for this one.

gnort 12-15-2003 09:23 PM

Ive watched this more times today than I can count...I even watched the first movie tonight...im so pumped

Mr.Deflok 12-15-2003 10:52 PM

The trailer is arse, I don't want a whole minutes filled with Spidey flying around the city, gets boring after a while. However the car flying through the window was money, and Doc Oc looks pretty cool. Should be a decent film, the first one definately was (but didn't deserve the praise it received).

ngobo 12-16-2003 01:49 AM

trailer looked awesome.. i hope the computer graphics willl look better than the first., but other than that.. i loved the first one..

gnort 12-16-2003 10:14 AM

The trailer is now in Quicktime format:

<a href="http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/spiderman2qt.html" target="_blank">Spider-man 2 in Quicktime</a>

Batman976 12-16-2003 10:40 AM

Thanks gnort!

Fremen 12-16-2003 04:17 PM

Wow! Talk about looking like Doc Ock is straight out of the comics!
That looked awe inspiring.
Puts the Green Goblins' revamped costume to shame. :D

Thanks gnort and ninety09.

fhqwhgads 12-16-2003 04:43 PM

There's also a .mov version available for those who use bit torrent. Check on suprnova.org.

moonstrucksoul 12-16-2003 08:09 PM

yeah i am hella excited

agentsmith 12-17-2003 11:54 PM

the first 60 seconds was definitely a step up, but afterwards was a little iffy.

Bonesaw 12-18-2003 08:17 PM

The car flying through the window was definitely cool. Sam Raimi is one of the best directors working today who can really get the feel of making a living comic book. I love all of his weird angles and close ups. 2 will be a great movie.

bltzkriegmcanon 12-19-2003 09:01 PM

The trailer has the perfect comic book feel. Unnecessary rack-focusing between Parker and Doc Ock in the first part is perfect. The rest of it moves so fluidly, it feels way better than the first one.

Lasereth 06-29-2004 05:46 AM

Roger Ebert just gave this movie 4 stars. He gave the first one 2 stars...I think this movie may be a masterpiece. I can't wait to see it!

-Lasereth

Stompy 06-29-2004 06:21 AM

I'll probably see it at some point. I'm not exactly lookin forward to it. The first was pretty good.

I just HATE the marketing that surrounds it. We'll be seeing spiderman cookies, plates, balloons, shoes, video games, etc.. for the next 6 months :(

Now that Sam Raimi is filthy f'n rich, I expect him to make another Evil Dead :D

SuperJay 06-29-2004 06:48 AM

There are at least 25 of us from work going on opening night. I cannot wait, I am getting so excited that I can't sit still.

bltzkriegmcanon 06-29-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stompy
I just HATE the marketing that surrounds it. We'll be seeing spiderman cookies, plates, balloons, shoes, video games, etc.. for the next 6 months :(
Well, speaking of cookies...

I actually have to say that I'm really looking forward to this. I mean, 4 fuckin' stars from ebert is meaningful. Also, it should be duly noted that it's still got 98% on rottentomatoes.com, after 45 reviews, only one being rotten, and not even that bad. I mean, we're talking a C+, which is better than most can hope for in a "rotten" situation. Anyways, one naysayer isn't going to detract my hope for this movie.

Mr.Deflok 06-29-2004 12:17 PM

I have low expectations for this film primarily due to the first one being nowhere near as good as people made it out to be, the trailers haven't impressed me much either. Like I said before, seeing Spidey fly around the city for so long gets incredibly boring. If Venom or Carnage are in Spidey 3 (and it looks like they will be, or at least Brock will be) then I'll be genuinely excited for that sequel.

Halx 06-29-2004 12:35 PM

all of the critics love it... I am so anxious.. I am gonna see it at MIDNIGHT

Bill O'Rights 06-29-2004 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stompy
I just HATE the marketing that surrounds it. We'll be seeing spiderman cookies, plates, balloons, shoes, video games, etc.. for the next 6 months :(
Don't forget kids slippers, jammies and fruit snacks. (Robbie's already got these) :D

I dunno. I don't hold much hope for the actual quality of the movie. Like Mr.Deflok, I too get bored watching "Spidey fly around the city for so long". (Cool CGI, but give it a rest) Thing is, I've always been a big Spiderman fan. He first came out the year I was born, 1962. So, you could say...we grew up together. On a side note. Superman came out in 1938, the year my father was born. Yup, he's a Superman fan. The point of all this is...yeah, I'm as excited as a kid at Christmas time!! And if absolutely nothing else...there's always Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst...as a redhead even...rrrowrr.

bparker805 06-29-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
all of the critics love it... I am so anxious.. I am gonna see it at MIDNIGHT
I am so jealous!!! I got my tickets for Wednesday at noon! Really excited about this one!

choskins 06-29-2004 01:09 PM

I will probably see it tomorrow during the day. I can't wait either.

Lasereth 06-29-2004 03:38 PM

We got tickets for tomorrow after work. I can't wait!! I still can't believe it's getting so good of reviews. This movie must be incredible (don't give me crap about how all reviewers suck, because I disagree and trust a few of them 100% and can't be persuaded otherwise).

-Lasereth

KellyC 06-29-2004 04:08 PM

The first one kicked so much ass, I hope this one will too. :D

Kazic 06-29-2004 07:00 PM

Was excited for this one more so than the first.
I like some limited trailers but now there are too many for the same movie so I avoid them altogether. I don't even watch tv spots.
So I am more excited to see what others have seen already.

Kazic 06-29-2004 07:01 PM

Oh yeah going tomorrow straight afterwork aswell.

Reese 06-30-2004 12:04 AM

I just watched the midnight show, Maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can help me out with a few things.

Spoiler: What was the deal with the "rain drops are fallin on my head" scene? I figure it was paying homage to something, but what?

And was Henry Jackson a character I should know? The kid next door? they seemed to be hinting that he was going to be an important character someday, but who is he?


Halx 06-30-2004 01:27 AM

A BILLION KAJILLION FUCKING STARS!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

I AM NOT FUCKING SHITTING YOU!! BEST FUCKING MOVIE!!!!!!!!

Halx 06-30-2004 01:37 AM

Ok.. I've caught my breath.

I read Spider-Man comics when I was a kid. Everything in this movie was satisfying to my very soul. I absolutely loved every single scene and every line that was spoken. I almost cried because I was so happy. The story was masterfully crafted. I don't know if there is any more or less action in this than the first movie, but the non-action scenes are just as engaging and impactful as the ones where shit's going down. Doctor Octopus was pulled off excellently.

There is really not much else to say. A review I skimmed over earlier said it fairly well... it's the most comic-booky comic-book movie to date. It's more than that, though. It's damn amazing... Spider-Man!!!

cardfrek 06-30-2004 04:42 AM

I totally agree Hal. I liked how they made Doc Ock likeable at the beginning and how he dealt with the arms later on in the movie, and poor Peter Parker can never get a break. When it rains it pours on him. And the 2 big fights in the movie were amazing. Best comic book movie ever.

hulk 06-30-2004 05:04 AM

Indeed. Just saw it about 4 hours ago, and it DOES ROCK AWESOME. The train scene was just mindblowing. Held me from beginning to end. ROLL ON WITH NUMBER 3!

bookerV 06-30-2004 06:43 AM

My buddy is out picking up tickets for the late show right now. I love long weekends. Very much looking forward to seeing this.

Cynthetiq 06-30-2004 07:16 AM

gah... missed my opportunity for a freebie screening the other night... but I'll go to a late show on Friday night :)

mystmarimatt 06-30-2004 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill O'Rights
And if absolutely nothing else...there's always Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst...as a redhead even...rrrowrr.
Damn straight, BOR ;)

I saw it last night and was thrilled, it was LOADS better than the first, in my opinion, not so much exposition, just plenty of story and plenty of action, just great.

The script was utterly fantastic. (I expect nothing less when one of the screenwriters recently won a Pulitzer). The fights scenes were spectacular. The direction was varied, they used several different filiming techniques and styles that made it entertaining to watch.

The only complaint I have is that some of the extras/one-line actors were just complete shit, and my friends and I laughed at how badly theser folks delivered their ONE line.

And I loved the ending. that is all i will say...(sigh...)


moonstrucksoul 06-30-2004 10:32 AM

saw it this morning, excellent !. took my four year old son. he loved it.

primal 06-30-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
A BILLION KAJILLION FUCKING STARS!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

I AM NOT FUCKING SHITTING YOU!! BEST FUCKING MOVIE!!!!!!!!

How can I say it any better than that. Peter Parker's story was so good that I forgot completely about the fantasy elements of the movie. I've never watched a superhero movie without thinking in the back of my head "I can't wait until they fight". In this movie I just wanted things to be resolved for Peter. Tobey took this role serious, and this really adds a lot of weight to the movie. At times it seemed like I was watching something just as serious as "Cider House Rules". I can't wait to see it again!

Asuka{eve} 06-30-2004 01:53 PM

I watched it IT ROCKED> OMGWTF IT ROX0r. MAn there is too many good things to say about the movie. In other words this movie is the "must see movie of the summer".

Fremen 06-30-2004 04:12 PM

Goosebumps broke out all over me just reading your posts/reviews, any idea when this sucker comes out on dvd?

*pant-pant* :thumbsup:


Anticipation....

Quadraton 06-30-2004 04:23 PM

Saw the movie this afternoon.

This movie proves what I've been telling others all along. Give the audience an intelligent story line, put some effort into developing the characters, and stop focussing so much on things like special effects and battle scenes (Matrix anyone?), and you will create a movie that people will absolutely love.

(Spoilers: Highlight white to read)

<span style="background-color:White;color:White;">This movie absolutely rocked! It defies the Law of Sequels that states the second movie will be worst than the first. Sam Raimi made a brilliant move by taking the least expected route. That is, he focussed the better part of the movie, not on Spiderman, but on Peter Parker. To that end, they played up the part of 'tormented hero' really well. By the time Peter Parker decided to give up being Spiderman, you actually felt the frustration he was feeling.

(I also love how they're playing the bit about Spiderman losing his powers. I wonder if the in next movie he begins mutating into the spider creature).

The only thing I hate is how all these really cool bad guys keep finding out Spiderman's identity, then dying by the end of the movie. This means there's no chance of ever seeing them again, which means we'll never get to see Doc Ock again.

On a side note, I wonder how long it will take them to come out with Venom and Carnage?</span>

Overall, even if you didn't like the first movie too much, you should definitely go see this one. It provides you with more than just simple eye candy like most sequels do. This one actually makes you feel a part of the movie, which is why you will most likely enjoy this one so much.

sadistikdreams 06-30-2004 04:24 PM

Anybody see the Stan Lee cameo?

This movie is wonderful.

Quadraton 06-30-2004 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sadistikdreams
Anybody see the Stan Lee cameo?

This movie is wonderful.

He was the guy avoiding the falling debris in the clock tower scene. I always look for him in Marvel movies/TV shows :)

Halx 06-30-2004 04:30 PM

I caught the cameo.. much quicker than all of his other cameos, but I definately saw it.

Quadraton 06-30-2004 05:14 PM

And did anyone else notice that it was Bruce Campbell as the usher? I thought that was really cool.

I didn't realize it was him at first. He's gotten a little...chubbier over the years.

djtestudo 06-30-2004 07:01 PM

I just saw the first one for the first time tonight, and after reading all of this as well, I WILL be seeing number two as soon as I possibly can :D

bltzkriegmcanon 06-30-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
A BILLION KAJILLION FUCKING STARS!!!! HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!

I AM NOT FUCKING SHITTING YOU!! BEST FUCKING MOVIE!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally posted by primal
How can I say it any better than that. Peter Parker's story was so good that I forgot completely about the fantasy elements of the movie. I've never watched a superhero movie without thinking in the back of my head "I can't wait until they fight". In this movie I just wanted things to be resolved for Peter. Tobey took this role serious, and this really adds a lot of weight to the movie. At times it seemed like I was watching something just as serious as "Cider House Rules". I can't wait to see it again!
Boy, when so many others put the words out there, I just can't help but use them.

This movie was THE definitive comic-book adaptation. Holy shit. It's amazing what Sam Raimi and company have done to plot out the incredibly difficult plot and character arcs with such grace that no important element of the story is sacrificed, nor is development of character. I must truly agree with Primal's statement
Quote:

I've never watched a superhero movie without thinking in the back of my head "I can't wait until they fight".
because that was the way I felt when I was watching the character development sequences. Hell, there were times that I almost dismissed the importance of Spider-Man, save that he acts as the counter-part to our real hero, Peter Parker. I think, what happens here is that, Parker is brought back into focus, as is truly necessary for the story. Parker isn't Spider-Man, not all the time, and I think with the first movie, people forgot about the man behind the mask, that there was indeed, a young, troubled man trying to define himself as a human being, and discovering all these things about himself. This movie continues that core story arc, and does it with style and grace that only a comic book, over a series of at least 5-20 issues could capture. Congratulations Sam Raimi and company, you, like X-Men 2, Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban, Blade 2 and so few others, have broken the Rule of Sequels, and you've done it damn well.
Spoiler: I think it's fucking awesome how Willem Dafoe plays a small bit part to get the ball rolling on the 3rd movie. "AVENGE ME!!!!" What a badass.

Spoiler: Oh yeah, had to mention, I think Stan Lee is also in the scene where Peter is washing his suit. It's hilarious, he goes through so much shit with his suit in the comics. Excellent work Sam.

4 fucking stars.

EDIT: All the Evil Dead references were comic platinum. The chainsaw. Holy christ. Best.Movie.Ever.

EDIT2: Excelsior!

Redjake 06-30-2004 07:21 PM

4 stars (out of 4). One of the best movies of the year. I loved every bit! I actually cared about the characters.

Laughed hysterically at the chainsaw and "tentacle-cam" in the operating room. GO RAIMI GO!!

Lasereth 06-30-2004 07:30 PM

Just got back. EXCELLENT movie! Much, much better than the first. Doc Oc is my new hero. Well, anti-hero if you will! Raimi did what Tarantino did with Kill Bill 2: made a sequel that has less action than the first, concentrated on character development, and has now ended up with a contemporary masterpiece.

I also LOVED the Evil Dead homage during the hospital scene. I laughed out loud during the chainsaw part while the rest of the theater was sitting there silent.

-Lasereth

SuperJay 06-30-2004 08:57 PM

OK... WOW!!!!

That was the best movie I have seen in a long time. I really love the Spider-Man movies and they are doing a great job with them.
Doc Ock was, imho, perfect. I don't think they could have done a better job. When I think of Doc Ock that is what I see. The arm, the insanity, the genius, the strength and the fighting style were all perfect.
J. J. Jameson still stole every scene he was in, and rightly so. The character is over the top and it is carried through in the movie.
If anyone was sitting on the fence about seeing this movie, don't. You should go and then go again.

Five out of five stars.

hulk 06-30-2004 09:26 PM

Heh, I spotted Stan Lee as well =P Now, if the improvement for the next movie is as much as this one was, it'll be the best movie ever!

hawkeye 06-30-2004 09:57 PM

10//5


for my opinion, you can just read hal's post.

Fire 07-01-2004 01:56 AM

great movie, interestingly enough, the dagger featured prominantly in one scene is one that I sell- and just gave as a wedding gift to a friend who is a huge spider man fan- and he was at the movie with me- nice suprise realy

NoSoup 07-01-2004 08:36 AM

Excellent movie - and a movie that finally, the first in a long, long time, violated the rule of the sequels. Far better than the 1st, IMHO.

Also, the Game regarding this movie is great too, although I would caution you to see the movie first, as the game plot is similar to the movie plot.

Quadraton 07-01-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoSoup
Excellent movie - and a movie that finally, the first in a long, long time, violated the rule of the sequels. Far better than the 1st, IMHO.
Actually, I found that Shrek 2 did a great job as a sequel as well, so it was nice having two sequels in one year that didn't suck.

mystmarimatt 07-01-2004 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth


I also LOVED the Evil Dead homage during the hospital scene. I laughed out loud during the chainsaw part while the rest of the theater was sitting there silent.

You're right! I knew the camera work and everything in that scene were kind of tributes to Evil Dead, i just totally didn't think about the chainsaw! :crazy:

evilbeefchan 07-01-2004 10:48 PM

This is THE movie that makes me proud to be a comicbook fan. I loved the first one, but a lot of people didn't enjoy it as much, which really put a downer on my self esteem. But this was just way beyond anything I expected. Way better than X-2, topping my super hero comic movie list. Spoiler: Anybody think they rushed the Spidey revealing his identity? I mean once he lost his mask in the subway, he kept doing it over and over like a junkie or something.

hulk 07-02-2004 05:11 AM

Yeah, but they did have to fit it all in to one movie. I took the movie as Peter having one downfall after another, but he managed to overcome the general shittiness of his circumstances and prevail =)

bltzkriegmcanon 07-02-2004 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evilbeefchan
Spoiler: Anybody think they rushed the Spidey revealing his identity? I mean once he lost his mask in the subway, he kept doing it over and over like a junkie or something.
No I think that, considering how many of the other story arcs got pushed along very quickly in comparison to the comic books, the pacing of Spider-Man's identity being revealed to those who it had to be revealed to was perfect. I mean, take a look at Ultimate Spider-Man, MJ finds out that Parker is Spider-Man, like less than 10 issues into the series (just an estimate, I'll have to check my collection to be sure.) In any case, all those important to the series find out who Spider-Man really is in their due time, and it was a respectable choice of Sam Raimi and Co. to go ahead and reveal it to many of these parties already. I wasn't really surprised at all when Parker was revealed to Osborn and Watson when he was, I mean, if there are only gonna be 3 movies, then there's no concievable way to keep from revealing that Parker is Spider-Man for any longer than they did.

brianna 07-02-2004 08:36 AM

wow, i can't believe everyone liked this so much. I went last night in hopes of seeing a good action movie and i was disappointed across the board. I really liked the first movie but the writing in this one was sub par, and thew acting awful. i imagine it would still be a pretty fun flick if you're *really* into comic books but while watching it i kept laughing to myself at inappropriate moments.

Halx 07-02-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brianna
wow, i can't believe everyone liked this so much. I went last night in hopes of seeing a good action movie and i was disappointed across the board. I really liked the first movie but the writing in this one was sub par, and thew acting awful. i imagine it would still be a pretty fun flick if you're *really* into comic books but while watching it i kept laughing to myself at inappropriate moments.
Please tell me you were under the influence of something. Please! That movie was the single most satisfying work of art that I've ever watched.

hulk 07-02-2004 09:45 AM

Indeed, the acting was far, far better than every Superhero movie I've seen, hell, it was far, far better than the vast majority of all movies I've seen.

guenwyv 07-02-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brianna
wow, i can't believe everyone liked this so much. I went last night in hopes of seeing a good action movie and i was disappointed across the board. I really liked the first movie but the writing in this one was sub par, and thew acting awful. i imagine it would still be a pretty fun flick if you're *really* into comic books but while watching it i kept laughing to myself at inappropriate moments.
You are the first person I have read that gave it a negative review. This was truely one of the best story movies ever IMHO.

Kazic 07-02-2004 10:35 AM

I liked it.
though I guess I am a comic fan aswell.
Only 1 part I didn't care for and I will keep it to myself lest some who read this go see it after.
Some amazing action sequences though. and the way they portray doc oc is awesome.

brianna 07-02-2004 10:57 AM

i fully admit to being a bit of a movie snob, however i was prepared to see a fun summer movie last night and i felt this didn't deliver. the writing treated the audience like a bunch of idiots (plot points were reiterated over and over again) and some scenes (the tea party with octavious and his wife giving cheesy love advise to peter) were painful in their poor acting. I also was less impressed with the special effects than i would have liked -- i could practically *See* the blue screen when octavious was framed against the fusion reaction at the end, right before he drowned the entire thing.

I'm going to refrain from commentary on the plot out of respect for the comic book genre :).

I think people are enjoying this movie out of love for the characters and the genre. it might be better than most comic book adaptations at accurately reflecting the characters but i didn't think it was particularly good as a stand alone project. (ie maybe i'd love it if i had been a bigger spider man fan as a kid).

Halx 07-02-2004 11:11 AM

Well... I completely, utterly disagree with you on everything.

brianna 07-02-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
Well... I completely, utterly disagree with you on everything.
that's why they call them opinions :)

Xiangsu 07-02-2004 11:32 AM

I saw the movie and I loved it. It did have a couple cheesy lines in it, but that doesn't make it a bad movie.

I'm pretty sure I liked it more than the first one, its been awhile since ive seen it.

SiN 07-02-2004 11:35 AM

I didn't see the first one, and I've never been into comic books (I respect them, just not my kinda thing..)...and I'm not much of a fan of many big-hollywood-movies...but I will be watching this in a few minutes.
I hope I like it :)

highthief 07-02-2004 02:52 PM

We just saw it and it was better than the first. The storyline and plot construction were superior, more crafted.

I did spot one weakness though that may be a problem for the franchise in that the villains are all villainous only because of science gone wrong - they are villains against their will, be it Ock or Goblin (or soon Harry Osborne, The Lizard, or Venom). Yes, I know in the books the villain reflecting Peter is a theme, but I think movie audiences will say "Haven't I seen this before?" when the Lizard makes his appearance.

Let's get a really villainous villain next time. A guy who is a bad guy and likes it. Mysterio maybe.

Halx 07-02-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by highthief
We just saw it and it was better than the first. The storyline and plot construction were superior, more crafted.

I did spot one weakness though that may be a problem for the franchise in that the villains are all villainous only because of science gone wrong - they are villains against their will, be it Ock or Goblin (or soon Harry Osborne, The Lizard, or Venom). Yes, I know in the books the villain reflecting Peter is a theme, but I think movie audiences will say "Haven't I seen this before?" when the Lizard makes his appearance.

Let's get a really villainous villain next time. A guy who is a bad guy and likes it. Mysterio maybe.

I read a review that really embraced the fact that Doc Ock was a villain against his will. People who are just evil to be evil (like the Green Goblin) are usually one-dimensional and not very interesting. I rather like the personal connection between Harry and Peter playing into the Hobgoblin vs Spider-Man story... gives it much more depth than just another super villain who hates the hero because he once wrecked his plans.

FaderMonkey 07-02-2004 03:41 PM

First, I'll say that I've never read a Spider-man comic in my life. With that said, I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I enjoyed the movie...I was entertained....but I didn't think it was that good. The thing that bugged me the most was that it felt so damn cheesy most of the time. I did like the movie, but I think the first one might have been better. Maybe Spider-man is the best in terms of comic book adaptations, but I don't care what anyone says, the best comic book movie to date for me is Batman (the first one). Nothing else is even close.

highthief 07-02-2004 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Halx
I read a review that really embraced the fact that Doc Ock was a villain against his will. People who are just evil to be evil (like the Green Goblin) are usually one-dimensional and not very interesting. I rather like the personal connection between Harry and Peter playing into the Hobgoblin vs Spider-Man story... gives it much more depth than just another super villain who hates the hero because he once wrecked his plans.
But don't forget, the Green Goblin was not a villain of his own will either. He had a fractured, split personality thing going on as a result of the Green Goblin injection he took. He wasn't a great guy beforehand, but he wasn't a villain either.

I'd just like to see them change it up a bit for the next movie...

choskins 07-02-2004 03:50 PM

Now that we know Sam is going to use a goblin for the third movie (which I disagree with), I want to see a true Goblin costume. I can understand using the Goblin tank outfit from the first movie, because they had to rationalize why he dresses in a green suit with a goblin helmet. But with Harry, Sam can take it to the next level and have Harry in a real Green Goblin outfit.

That being said, I prefer the Hobgoblin costume, as it looks badass:

http://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider...mazSpid238.JPG

holtmate 07-02-2004 09:11 PM

I loved the movie!!!
I was bouncing in my seat the entire time, and can't wait to see it again.
For the next movie though, I would like to see Harry use the old school Green Goblin costume, with the stocking cap and all.
As for Venom/Carnage, I'm just worried that the effects will be awful. I know that technology has come a long way, but after seeing Spawn's cape, it still worries me that a villan like Venom/Carnage, who will have to ve almost all CGI, will end up looking like Spawn's cape.
One other question...I noticed that the doctor that Pete talks to was an actor named John Landis...is this THE John Landis?

evilbeefchan 07-02-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by holtmate
One other question...I noticed that the doctor that Pete talks to was an actor named John Landis...is this THE John Landis?
<a href="http://imdb.com/name/nm0000484/" target="_new">John Landis</a>?

SiN 07-03-2004 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by FaderMonkey
First, I'll say that I've never read a Spider-man comic in my life. With that said, I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I enjoyed the movie...I was entertained....but I didn't think it was that good. The thing that bugged me the most was that it felt so damn cheesy most of the time. ....
I can see your point...and somewhat agree.
I mean, if I look at it as just a movie, it's pretty entertaining, but... I can see the cheese.

However, even tho I'm not familiar with any comic books, If I look at it in terms of a comic book, i find that counters much of the cheese and makes it acceptable/excuseable.

So yeah, I liked it a lot. I think it's only fair to look at it within the comic book context, and, in that case, I think it did very well.

:)

quest1mark 07-03-2004 05:38 AM

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Originally posted by choskins
Now that we know Sam is going to use a goblin for the third movie (which I disagree with), I want to see a true Goblin costume.

I love how Raimi leaves the door open for future villains by introducing Doc Conners and revealling spideys identity to Harry. But as the final chapter to my favorite movie series, screw the lizard and the goblin! I want it to go out in a bang.

Lets hope in 3 they bring in two villains. How bout bringing in Brock and Venom to the story as well as the Jamesons son coming back to earth and unleashing the martian symbiote on Cletus Cassidy?

Hell...why not bring Ock back, bring in Electro, Kraven, Mysterio, Sandman, and the Vulture and have the whole sinister six! Well...maybe not. Venom and Carnage for 3!!!!!

Halx 07-03-2004 10:05 AM

See.. here's how people begin to dislike movies: They show up at the theater for a movie like The Core and expect to see an oscar-winning performance. But it's a sci-fi movie with a plot that they KNOW is over the top. The movie, however, for what it is, is pretty damn good in it's own context.

This is the same for Spider-Man 2. If you go to the theater expecting Titanic or Lord of the Rings, you're gonna get disappointed. This is Spider-Man. It's a comic book movie. It's the absolute best comic book movie ever made.

soccerchamp76 07-03-2004 01:11 PM

I just flat out didn't liked it. I enjoyed Spiderman but the 2nd one didn't do anything for me. The only good thing about it was being able to see Kirsten Dunst again.

zensheep 07-03-2004 02:03 PM

I saw it last night and I loved it. I went out and bought the first one on DVD today hah. I recommend it, that is if you're looking for a really fun and humorous movie, not the next oscar winner.


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