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onodrim 08-26-2003 06:57 PM

For anyone who knows Tolien and sees my user name, do you really have to ask? ;) (onodrim comes from Tolkien's Elvish language) Lord of the Rings beats Star Wars on many levels. Although I have to admit I was a pretty huge Star Wars fan back in the day. :p But LOTR's type fantasy has always been my favorite.

Mr.Deflok 08-26-2003 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by onodrim
For anyone who knows Tolien and sees my user name...
Ha! You may be able speak in elvish but can you spell in english*?


*check your spelling of Tolkien's name :D

LOTR is far more deeper but SW is fun and adventurous and far more enjoyable, that said LOTR is still more of a moving epic both in words and on screen.

Aaron0000 08-26-2003 11:55 PM

I cant stand the new Star Wars films, they are completely terrible.

LadyLanceALout 09-14-2003 06:47 PM

both were good origianlly... (LOTR- books, Star Wars- the original 3 movies made). both are now seriously screwed up... :-/

anyway... who cares... kinda depends which aspects you are talking about.... blah blah blah.

yes.... darned evil question...

Hrothgar 09-14-2003 08:04 PM

Tough choice really. Star wars and Empire Strikes back are fabulous/ Return of Jedi = dumb Ewoks. TPM and AOTC are terribly acted and CGI up the ass.

LOTR is good too and I have enjoyed the first two so far and I'm sure the last won't disaapontment. However, nothing pumps me up like hearing John Williams' Imperial March and the badass that is Darth Vader.

Crap I still can't dedide.

Jonsgirl 09-14-2003 09:39 PM

Well, I have a hard time deciding on this one. I love them both, but I have to go with LOTR. I've actually lost some respect for star wars after the new shit started coming out.

hawkeye 09-15-2003 11:19 PM

I will have to go with LOTR on this one. I love star wars, but... No Contest

(although after the prequels, I love SW less)

Sleepyjack 09-15-2003 11:22 PM

LOTR, star wars should've stoped at 3.

drewg 09-16-2003 12:22 AM

I'll have to say Lord of the Rings. The first three star wars films are good, but they can't beat LOTR.

PredeconInferno 09-16-2003 04:03 PM

I think you guys are missing the point.

LOTR was written by TOLKIEN so HE created the depth, the darkness etc. But he did NOT direct the movies. Jackson had nothing to do with "creating darkness" nor "depth of the characters"

Lucas as director is shit, I'll grant you that (not THE shit, but like shit from a butt). Star Wars was INVENTED by him, though. He's the guy that started the idea of a trilogy. He's the guy that came up with the idea of making the second movie seem like there is NO hope, but make us still feel thankful they're still alive. Yeah, that was invented by Lucas.

Lucas was the first director to make an epic adventure movie on this scale. Granted, the prequels are not for the sake of the storyline (in my opinion they are, too a marketing tool. I still love them, though). However, with all the technology and whatnot that he has at his disposal, wouldn't you? Personally, I would have stuck with models of Slave I rather than this CGI crap lucas is so fond of.

In addition those that voted for "tolkien created... blah blah" you're missing the point that Lucas ALSO created an entirely different universe. The depth of Star Wars spans just as much as that of Lord of the Rings, only there is no explanation of how everything came to be.

Excluding the First three movies of Star Wars, I'd say that Lord of the Rings is only on par with STAR WARS, since it came first.

DownwardSpiral 09-16-2003 04:09 PM

LotR all the way.

sadatx 09-16-2003 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by PredeconInferno
I think you guys are missing the point.

LOTR was written by TOLKIEN so HE created the depth, the darkness etc. But he did NOT direct the movies.

Good point, I probably should have written that choice differently. However, I still give Jackson and his filmmaking team alot of credit for translating the books to the screen, not an easy thing to do.

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Lucas as director is shit, I'll grant you that (not THE shit, but like shit from a butt). Star Wars was INVENTED by him, though.
Again, I have to reccomend Kurosawa's HIDDEN FORTRESS. Lucas borrowed heavily from this movie (Along with John Ford's THE SEARCHERS). In my opinion, Lucas didn't invent Star Wars as much as assembled it from other movies that he liked when he was younger.

And as far as the beings he populates his universe with, they're neat, but most have little or no depth.


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He's the guy that started the idea of a trilogy. He's the guy that came up with the idea of making the second movie seem like there is NO hope, but make us still feel thankful they're still alive.
I'll agree with you on this point. Lucas was a revolutionary thinker when it came to marketing. But does that meant the Star Wars trilogy is better, just beacuse it was marketed well?

And as far as starting the trilogy idea, maybe he was the first in the movie business, but it has been done many times over in other art forms, like literature (uh hmmm......Lord of the Rings).

Dragon_Imp 09-17-2003 07:25 AM

Both of those movies are so good i cant decide which one is the best they both have me wanting to watch them again and again.:D

putzy 09-17-2003 09:49 AM

honestly i like them both and dont think i should have to decide which one is better

Arc101 09-17-2003 11:51 AM

What a nasty poll - but I had to go with LOTR, oh wait I just remembered how bloody sexy Carrie Fisher was I need to change my vote arragh!

JcL 09-17-2003 04:24 PM

LOTR dominates this one for me personally. In terms of both movies and overall universe I don't think LOTR can be beaten.

LOTR is dominating the poll it seems as well. Yay. :)

Fire 09-18-2003 11:12 PM

ok- seems like most agree that lucas is a shithead, not a director, and an idea thief- but despite this he was the one that did it first- peter jackson says he barely got LOTR made as it was- without lucas somehow managing to make the SW trilogy what it was I doubt Jackson would have had a chance- so, yes the prequals suck donkey cock, yes lucas had few original ideas, but somehow he made it come together, and I have to give him credit for winning that uphill fight- face it , before star wars there was nothing like it out there- star trek and other camp fests aside- lucas made it a moneymaking, viable project, and without that , where would we be- now if only ep 1 and 2 didnt suck so bad....

Mr. Spacemonkey 09-19-2003 12:11 PM

In my opinion, LOTR beats Star Wars

floonine 09-19-2003 12:43 PM

I have always been a fan of StarWars, but I've never liked Lucas as a director or writer. You can't beat a guy who developed his own language for the sake of his characters (lotr).

Xell101 09-19-2003 01:09 PM

Star Wars - Ultimate Sci-Fi trilogy

LOTR - Ultimate epic movies, Fantasy epic > glorious Sci-Fi

BuddyHawks 09-19-2003 01:15 PM

Well since there was a too cloes to call option, I took the easy way out and choose that.


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