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YourNeverThere · 07-07-2003, 10:27 PM

Ive seen that movie tons of times and love it. So i bought the book. The book is just as good, which is strange because the movie makes little sense in some places but the book is really really good, anyone else read it?

-Ever- · 07-07-2003, 11:31 PM

I saw the movie when it first came out, long before I knew of I saw the movie when it first came out, long before I knew of Thompson and his background. Since then, I've read clips here and there of his stories in different journals and books and I now understand that the movie was so good because it had such an in-depth book to get ideas from! I'm yet to really get into Thompson's work, but Terry Gilliam, the director, has become my favorite director over the past few years and fear and loathing is just one of his many great works. I highly recomend anything else by him.... See this link for a list of his works, both those he acted in (most of the old monty pythons...) and that he directed.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/s...9557339-9499818

He directed:
12 Monkeys
Brazil
Adventures of Barron Munchausen
Fear and Loathing in LV
Time Bandits
Lost in La Mancha
The Fisher King
Jabberwocky

YourNeverThere · 07-08-2003, 01:00 AM

12 monkeys was great your right

ananayal · 07-08-2003, 05:36 PM

Almost have the Fear DVD worn out, if that's possible. I was given the book my senior year in highschool by a co-worker who's father taught college english. I read the book and was amazed and confused. Incredible writing.

seretogis · 07-08-2003, 06:56 PM

I saw the first 10 minutes of this, rolled my eyes, and put my Two Towers vcd in instead. It was utter crap, imo.

0001 · 07-08-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I saw the first 10 minutes of this, rolled my eyes, and put my Two Towers vcd in instead. It was utter crap, imo.

So your attention span is.. how long?

I think there are some sparkly things to your left somewhere... check them out.

Batman976 · 07-09-2003, 10:07 AM

All fans of this movie should definately check out the Criterion Collection DVD. It totally rocks and has three commentary tracks, including one by Hunter and one by Gilliam.

It's definately one of the better dvds in my collection.

-Ever- · 07-09-2003, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 0001
So your attention span is.. how long?

Lol, let me refer you to the writing above his avatar...

Peetster · 07-09-2003, 10:34 AM

The book was interesting, read it a decade ago or so. That's with the seven stages of drunkenness, right?

juanvaldes · 07-09-2003, 02:25 PM

Awesome movie, my brother read the book and said he was going to give it to me when he finished but he never did. Bastard. Oh well, still want to read it.

Sion · 07-09-2003, 10:42 PM

the book was excellent. the movie was a decent attempt to capture the spirit of the book. but its one of those books thats basically impossible to properly capture on film. i give it an A for effort and a C on execution, overall grade: B+

Macheath · 07-10-2003, 12:35 AM

I find I can re-read the book very easily, just sit down one evening and before I know it its all over (again).

The movie had things like the music and Circus-circus set that are nice to see and hear - even when you've already imagined it all fitting together. The "wanna buy some heroin!" scene is actually much funnier in the book.

I was recently thinking about the <a href="http://www.obviouspop.com/gonzo/images/gonzotheart.gif">incredible original Ralph Steadman illustrations for Fear and Loathing</a> and what would have happened if Steadman and Thompson had collaborated with the masters of anime and western animation to make the movie.

Freaky thought.

YourNeverThere · 07-10-2003, 12:42 AM

my goodnes Macheath that would be insane. Thompsons writting has gotten more and more strange over the years, i just read a article-thing that he wrote form Adbusters that is really vemonfilled and vulger, so great stuff. Also the scene in the movie where he spills LSD on his coat in that club and the other guy licks it off his arm then the normal person comes in a sees them and ir ruins his life, in the book Thomson just imagines that part and says that that would be cool if it happened but never did. Stuff like that is really why i read the book to try and better understand what happened and what didnt

seretogis · 07-10-2003, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 0001
So your attention span is.. how long?

I think there are some sparkly things to your left somewhere... check them out.

I can pay attention if something is meaningful. If it's nothing but a glorification of the drug-culture, I get turned off and put something with substance in instead. I'm not a big fan of drugs, since a few friends of mine have suffered greatly while using them.

Jadey · 07-10-2003, 10:09 PM

Yeah! The book is fantastic! And I also love Gilliam's movies. 12 Monkeys and The Adv Of B Munchausen are 2 of my favorite movies. I've never seen Jabberwocky though, is it good too?

docbungle · 07-11-2003, 12:36 AM

The film represents the book perfectly. Scene for scene it is exactly the same.

After viewing one, there is really no reason to view the other. You feel like you are witnessing the exact same thing.

That is extremely rare.

Jesus Malverde · 07-11-2003, 12:54 AM

I heard about the movie from a friend, so I went out and bought the book. The movie is a really good adaptation of the book, I remember wondering "how the hell did they make this into a movie?" when I was reading it. Its a really funny movie, full of a lot of memorable quotes. I downloaded a clip of Thompson appearing on Conan's show, its hillarious! They're shooting machineguns and shit while drinking whiskey haha. (I can't remember if it has the seven stages of drunkenness, Peetster-what were they?)

laxative · 07-14-2003, 10:43 PM

read it a couple years before the movie. try thompson's book about the hell's angels.

FunHater · 07-15-2003, 04:47 PM

After all these comments, I'm thinking I should pick up the book. I also want to get the Criterion version of teh DVD.

Vales419 · 07-15-2003, 07:28 PM

It's a great flick. Own it on VHS and DVD.

"I knew, your a fucking narcotics agent" -Depp.

Peace.

yakimushi · 07-16-2003, 02:46 PM

Fantasic book, fantastic movie. J. Depp is really excellent and seeing Benicio del Toro with a paunch is hilarious.

unclemeat · 07-16-2003, 03:48 PM

It is a great book. It is hard for any movie to capture the feeling that you have when you are reading the book. but the movie is not bad.

eris · 08-08-2003, 04:06 AM

I was really relieved once I knwo that Gilliam was directing this. He, Depp and Deltorro really pullled it off.

Anyone see the documentary on Gilliam's failed picture - it was heart breaking...

jimk · 08-08-2003, 04:14 AM

one of my all time favorite non-serious books!

i'm in drug recovery now, so it might not be quite as funny to me anymore, but i loved it in college.

if you liked that movie, check out "where the buffalo roam." it has bill murray as hst. shaky movie, but c'mon, bill as hunter? a must see.

frankgrimes · 08-08-2003, 08:43 AM

Loved the book when i read it years ago, very different, raw and powerful stuff and funny. never saw the movie. For those who like thompson and steadman together (i do), try to locate a book called "the curse of lono". its by thompson, generously illustrated by steadman about a trip to hawaii, and features thompson at his angry, paranoid best. i lent my copy out years ago and never got it back.

Steveye · 08-09-2003, 07:47 AM

Funniest book I've ever read.....thought the movie sucked. Just could'nt see Depp as Thompson.

-Ever- · 08-09-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eris
I was really relieved once I knwo that Gilliam was directing this. He, Depp and Deltorro really pullled it off.

Anyone see the documentary on Gilliam's failed picture - it was heart breaking...

Which picture was that?

G5_Todd · 08-10-2003, 09:11 PM

crappy movie...

3zos · 08-17-2003, 07:11 PM

i seem to remember listening to something on NPR with regards to a failed Gilliam picture.. could it have been his idea of "Don Quixote"?

lalalapi · 08-17-2003, 10:15 PM

The documentary, about Gilliam's failed adaptation of <i>Don Quixote</i>, is known as <i>Lost In La Mancha</i>.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...55204?v=glance

http://www.imdb.com/Title?0308514

FlorentinoAriza · 08-18-2003, 01:37 AM

i'm a big fan of terry gilliam, brazil is one of my all time favourites. depp & del torro are great actors, but ...
for me the movie didn't work. i read the book some years before the movie and i really enjoyed it a lot.
the movie was a lettdown for me.

Pedialyte · 08-18-2003, 10:48 AM

This was an awesome movie... question though. Is it worth it to pick up the book? Does it explain quite a bit more or just ellaborate a few times?

Beltruckus · 08-18-2003, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I saw the first 10 minutes of this, rolled my eyes, and put my Two Towers vcd in instead. It was utter crap, imo.

Hmm funny thats exactly how I feel about your posts.

eris · 08-18-2003, 02:14 PM

The movie was Lost in LaMancha. You really should check it out - it really brings to light Terry's mad vision - and why the studios hate to work with him.

snicka · 08-18-2003, 02:28 PM

books are always better than movies, no time limit on them. I try to watch the movie first and then go to the book. It is better to enjoy the movie, then go in depth with the book than to enjoy the book and then be dissapointed in the movie.

almostaugust · 08-18-2003, 07:24 PM

Yeah, i love the book and the film. I recently read an interview with him on aintitcoolnews. He only agreed to the interview on the provisor that the journo bought weed along.

YourNeverThere · 08-19-2003, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G5_Todd
crappy movie...

Wait a min. G5_Todd thinks that this is a crappy movie! Holy Crap!!! it really must be! i've totally changed my opinion of it now! well thank God that G5_Todd posted in a Fear and Loathing thread when he didnt like the movie JUST to tell us that he didnt. AND! He offered some amazing, intelligent and longlasting arguments to back up his openminded and enlightened post. Wow, that makes my day, OOOH man.

RemyLebeau97 · 08-21-2003, 02:15 PM

Saw the movie and loved it, it's one of my fav's, however I haven't got to check out the book yet.

Plan9Senior · 08-21-2003, 02:40 PM

I guess I am the only one that feels like the movie was lacking and that Johnny Depp was not the right choice in playing that character. I read the book before I saw the movie, so maybe I just expected more.

Cynthetiq · 09-10-2003, 07:12 AM

liked the book... movie was eh...

i just don't think you can get the whole drug thing out onto film....

07-07-2003, 10:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Ive seen that movie tons of times and love it. So i bought the book. The book is just as good, which is strange because the movie makes little sense in some places but the book is really really good, anyone else read it? __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

07-07-2003, 11:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	I saw the movie when it first came out, long before I knew of I saw the movie when it first came out, long before I knew of Thompson and his background. Since then, I've read clips here and there of his stories in different journals and books and I now understand that the movie was so good because it had such an in-depth book to get ideas from! I'm yet to really get into Thompson's work, but Terry Gilliam, the director, has become my favorite director over the past few years and fear and loathing is just one of his many great works. I highly recomend anything else by him.... See this link for a list of his works, both those he acted in (most of the old monty pythons...) and that he directed. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/s...9557339-9499818 He directed: 12 Monkeys Brazil Adventures of Barron Munchausen Fear and Loathing in LV Time Bandits Lost in La Mancha The Fisher King Jabberwocky __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses-- Last edited by -Ever-; 07-07-2003 at 11:33 PM..

07-08-2003, 01:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	12 monkeys was great your right __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

07-08-2003, 05:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
ananayal Upright Location: Michigan	Almost have the Fear DVD worn out, if that's possible. I was given the book my senior year in highschool by a co-worker who's father taught college english. I read the book and was amazed and confused. Incredible writing. __________________ Snoogins

07-08-2003, 06:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	I saw the first 10 minutes of this, rolled my eyes, and put my Two Towers vcd in instead. It was utter crap, imo. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

07-09-2003, 10:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	All fans of this movie should definately check out the Criterion Collection DVD. It totally rocks and has three commentary tracks, including one by Hunter and one by Gilliam. It's definately one of the better dvds in my collection. __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

07-09-2003, 10:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	The book was interesting, read it a decade ago or so. That's with the seven stages of drunkenness, right?

07-09-2003, 02:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	Awesome movie, my brother read the book and said he was going to give it to me when he finished but he never did. Bastard. Oh well, still want to read it.

07-09-2003, 10:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	the book was excellent. the movie was a decent attempt to capture the spirit of the book. but its one of those books thats basically impossible to properly capture on film. i give it an A for effort and a C on execution, overall grade: B+ __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

07-10-2003, 12:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	I find I can re-read the book very easily, just sit down one evening and before I know it its all over (again). The movie had things like the music and Circus-circus set that are nice to see and hear - even when you've already imagined it all fitting together. The "wanna buy some heroin!" scene is actually much funnier in the book. I was recently thinking about the <a href="http://www.obviouspop.com/gonzo/images/gonzotheart.gif">incredible original Ralph Steadman illustrations for Fear and Loathing</a> and what would have happened if Steadman and Thompson had collaborated with the masters of anime and western animation to make the movie. Freaky thought.

07-10-2003, 12:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
YourNeverThere Practical Anarchist Location: Yesterday i woke up stuck in hollywood	my goodnes Macheath that would be insane. Thompsons writting has gotten more and more strange over the years, i just read a article-thing that he wrote form Adbusters that is really vemonfilled and vulger, so great stuff. Also the scene in the movie where he spills LSD on his coat in that club and the other guy licks it off his arm then the normal person comes in a sees them and ir ruins his life, in the book Thomson just imagines that part and says that that would be cool if it happened but never did. Stuff like that is really why i read the book to try and better understand what happened and what didnt __________________ The Above post is a direct quote from Shakespeare

07-10-2003, 10:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jadey This Space For Rent Location: Davenport, Iowa	Yeah! The book is fantastic! And I also love Gilliam's movies. 12 Monkeys and The Adv Of B Munchausen are 2 of my favorite movies. I've never seen Jabberwocky though, is it good too?

07-11-2003, 12:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	The film represents the book perfectly. Scene for scene it is exactly the same. After viewing one, there is really no reason to view the other. You feel like you are witnessing the exact same thing. That is extremely rare.

07-11-2003, 12:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jesus Malverde Psycho Location: Sinaloa, Mexico	I heard about the movie from a friend, so I went out and bought the book. The movie is a really good adaptation of the book, I remember wondering "how the hell did they make this into a movie?" when I was reading it. Its a really funny movie, full of a lot of memorable quotes. I downloaded a clip of Thompson appearing on Conan's show, its hillarious! They're shooting machineguns and shit while drinking whiskey haha. (I can't remember if it has the seven stages of drunkenness, Peetster-what were they?) __________________ ...I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life...

07-14-2003, 10:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
laxative Loser Location: the bathroom	read it a couple years before the movie. try thompson's book about the hell's angels.

07-15-2003, 04:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
FunHater Tilted Location: Sherwood Park, AB	After all these comments, I'm thinking I should pick up the book. I also want to get the Criterion version of teh DVD.

07-15-2003, 07:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vales419 Crazy Location: Purgatory	It's a great flick. Own it on VHS and DVD. "I knew, your a fucking narcotics agent" -Depp. Peace. __________________ "Here's ten bucks, bring me the head of Barry Manilow" --Dr. Denis Leary

07-16-2003, 02:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
yakimushi Addict	Fantasic book, fantastic movie. J. Depp is really excellent and seeing Benicio del Toro with a paunch is hilarious.

07-16-2003, 03:48 PM	#22 (permalink)
unclemeat Upright Location: Maine USA	It is a great book. It is hard for any movie to capture the feeling that you have when you are reading the book. but the movie is not bad.

08-08-2003, 04:06 AM	#23 (permalink)
eris Crazy	I was really relieved once I knwo that Gilliam was directing this. He, Depp and Deltorro really pullled it off. Anyone see the documentary on Gilliam's failed picture - it was heart breaking... __________________ allhaileris

08-08-2003, 04:14 AM	#24 (permalink)
jimk Addict Location: Chicago	one of my all time favorite non-serious books! i'm in drug recovery now, so it might not be quite as funny to me anymore, but i loved it in college. if you liked that movie, check out "where the buffalo roam." it has bill murray as hst. shaky movie, but c'mon, bill as hunter? a must see. __________________ raw power is a guaranteed o.d. raw power is a laughin' at you & me -iggy

08-08-2003, 08:43 AM	#25 (permalink)
frankgrimes Psycho	Loved the book when i read it years ago, very different, raw and powerful stuff and funny. never saw the movie. For those who like thompson and steadman together (i do), try to locate a book called "the curse of lono". its by thompson, generously illustrated by steadman about a trip to hawaii, and features thompson at his angry, paranoid best. i lent my copy out years ago and never got it back.

08-09-2003, 07:47 AM	#26 (permalink)
Steveye Upright Location: Tx	Funniest book I've ever read.....thought the movie sucked. Just could'nt see Depp as Thompson.

08-10-2003, 09:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
G5_Todd Junkie Location: Reichstag	crappy movie... __________________ "....and when you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." -General Franks

08-17-2003, 07:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
3zos Insane Location: USA	i seem to remember listening to something on NPR with regards to a failed Gilliam picture.. could it have been his idea of "Don Quixote"? __________________ S U C C E S S some people dream of success, while other people live to crush those dreams

08-17-2003, 10:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
lalalapi Crazy	The documentary, about Gilliam's failed adaptation of <i>Don Quixote</i>, is known as <i>Lost In La Mancha</i>. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...55204?v=glance http://www.imdb.com/Title?0308514

08-18-2003, 01:37 AM	#31 (permalink)
FlorentinoAriza Crazy Location: europe	i'm a big fan of terry gilliam, brazil is one of my all time favourites. depp & del torro are great actors, but ... for me the movie didn't work. i read the book some years before the movie and i really enjoyed it a lot. the movie was a lettdown for me. __________________ --- this space for rent --- pm me

08-18-2003, 10:48 AM	#32 (permalink)
Pedialyte Crazy Location: Minneapolis	This was an awesome movie... question though. Is it worth it to pick up the book? Does it explain quite a bit more or just ellaborate a few times?

08-18-2003, 02:14 PM	#34 (permalink)
eris Crazy	The movie was Lost in LaMancha. You really should check it out - it really brings to light Terry's mad vision - and why the studios hate to work with him. __________________ allhaileris

08-18-2003, 02:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
snicka Crazy	books are always better than movies, no time limit on them. I try to watch the movie first and then go to the book. It is better to enjoy the movie, then go in depth with the book than to enjoy the book and then be dissapointed in the movie.

08-18-2003, 07:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Yeah, i love the book and the film. I recently read an interview with him on aintitcoolnews. He only agreed to the interview on the provisor that the journo bought weed along. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

08-21-2003, 02:15 PM	#38 (permalink)
RemyLebeau97 I stole my boyfriends TFP, hehe !! Location: Galveston, TX	Saw the movie and loved it, it's one of my fav's, however I haven't got to check out the book yet.

08-21-2003, 02:40 PM	#39 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	I guess I am the only one that feels like the movie was lacking and that Johnny Depp was not the right choice in playing that character. I read the book before I saw the movie, so maybe I just expected more.

09-10-2003, 07:12 AM	#40 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	liked the book... movie was eh... i just don't think you can get the whole drug thing out onto film.... __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!