Sex Offender Map
 

I hope I put this in the right forum, because it won't belong in the EZ, and it sure isn't Nonsense.

A friend sent me a link to this site today, I don't think it works in my area, but I know a lot of people here are from the US, so you may find this useful, especially if you have kids. This site, after you input your address, tells you if there are any sex offenders (convicted) living in your area.

http://www.mapsexoffenders.com/index.asp

I normally look at the nyc database, this is a neat implementation of maps and images with data.

thanks!

Holy shit, I searched in my area and the father of one of the kids that works with me is on there for sexual battery or something like that. I was looking at the map and I was thinking "Hey, that kinda looks like where he lives."

It's pretty neat to see who's where and what they had done.

Crazy shit, thanks. :)

This is kinda scary. I happened to be looking up the megan's law thing the other day and found a different listing of sex offenders in my area. I found that there are a least 4 within a five block radius of my house. But on this map, none of them show up...

We've had a threadlike this before...

There are sites like this all over the internet, and I find them somewhat disturbing. Yes, there are some 'bad people' out there but doesn't this really encourage vigilantism? On some of the sites that I've seen, the description of the wrong doing was pretty vague, just remember a sex offender could be the 18 year old boyfriend of the 15 year old girl with the pissed off father who caught them having sex.

The public has a right to know, but I'd rather that right to know came from the police department, and I'd like to know exactly what they did when.

How much does the public really deserve to know, if I was a burgler, paid my dues to society and now am living a good life, does the public need to know that the person living next door to them is a former burgler?

Yes, I have that same issue with this... long after the offender has served their time, they still have this scarlet letter that is forever pinned to them via Google, Wayback machine etc.

Luckily, none in my town, at least known ones....considering we are the home site of a prison, I'm thankful they all leave.

i was just typing random cities and dallas texas has like 200!!! its pretty bad.
what's the town with the most?

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Jimell..._Offenders.jpg

Is there any reason there is such a thick density around USC?

USC students picking up underage local girls? or drunken college students forgetting what the word no means

Wow. None in my current neighborhood listed but I decided to check my old hometown and two people I went to school and was friendly with were listed. One for rape and the other for aggravated sexual assault. Both of them were really soft spoken guys that you wouldn't think would hurt a fly. You just never know.

Brigham Young in Provo, UT?

/rimshot

This site doesn't have all 50 states mapped.. check to see first

I'm agree with mal though.. these things are bad. If they are going to have a registry they should have different levels and descriptions. I.e. a violent registry, a pedophile registry, and one for everyone else.

ON the registry note.. why not have a reg for drunk drivers? Makes sense to me.

As a parent of 3 young children, I check out these sites. Basically I don't trust most people around my kids anyway, but it's nice to know if you are in a really high rate area. As for whether or not these people have privacy... they are CONVICTED offenders-- this is part of their punshment, as far as I am concerned.

Gucci makes an interesting point.. as a parent, wouldnt you want to know that there was a convicted drunk driver on your street? That'd be far more dangerous than a sex offender. It's not advertised where they live?

And I'm going to use my stand by example. That 18 year old boy with the 15 year old girlfriend wiht the pissed off father. he's now a convicted sex offender. Most of those sites don't go into details. And what's to stop some moronic cowboy from deciding to rid the world of all the sex offenders and decides to kill that 18 year old.

If you are already living somewhere, and are comfortable in your home, and you find out that a registered sex offender lives down the street, what do you do? Move? Coat your children in barbed wire?

Why is a sex offender worse than a drunk driver, or a burgler, or an embezzler, or any other crime, why do they get singled out?

The media likes to portray that Sex Offenders reoffend more than any other group of felons. However, (I need to find the numbers) they are actually one of the least likely to reoffend. B&E offenders had the highest number of reoffenses. Let's make them register.. I'd like to know if you're going to rob me ahead of time.

Ah, New Jersey is not in that list...so looking up any address here is a waste of time...Oh, well...back to coating my kids in barbed wire.

I think its because the general public considers sex crimes more heinous than other forms of crime. For instance one thinks its horrible when some one is murdered but it seems somhow greatly more horrific and repulsive when that person is raped and murdered. Also when one hears the term "sex offender" I think most people immediately jump to "child molester". Messing with kids just pushes the extreme buttons in just about everybody. There are people that will sit down and have a beer with the local drug dealer or burgler but the merest hint of child molestion, valid or not, and they're gone if not outright hostile. While our justice system is set up (at least theoretically) so that once one does ones time you get a second chance, I admit I want to know if a serial rapist or child molester is living next door. I'm a civilized person. I'm not going to move. I'm not going to bother the guy but I and my family will be on heigtened alert. I don't want to be burglerized either but the whole sex offense thing just sets off more danger signals in my brain.

becareful when it rains this afternoon, they might rust :)

I agree with some of this. Serial Rapists and Pedophiles are just sick in the head. I just don't think the system is fair enough to the ones who aren't rapists or violent offenders or child molesters. That's why I call for seperate databases.

But that's just my point - a sex offender doesn't necessarily have to be a child molester and society is branding him as such.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...t=sex+offender

That's the other thread. The link on this new thread doesn't work for me, but the other one does.

For this being a "religious" area, there are ALOT of sex offenders in my neighborhood and surrounding vicinity, but only a handful are ones that would alarm me.

[QUOTE=Jimellow]http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Jimell..._Offenders.jpg

Oh my God!!! :eek: :eek:

I got six where I live. What a great site. I know one of the guys. Not know him personally, but his face! Wow. Thank you for sharing this. Incredible!

Wow Jimellow, I was going to post this:
http://disp0sable.org/scary.jpg
thinking this was scary.. but god damn yours... wow....

At least this answers my next question if they seem to live in the same area it seems.. which they do.

I'm a parent as well, I agree, I wish my area had this. only the police can access it i believe in ontario. hopefully that will change.

I agree that "sex offender" encompasses a tassle of different crimes at different levels of "heinousity" (look at me I just invented a word!). I also agree that it is unfair for society, law enforcement and judicial/oversight agencies to have a "one size fits all" policy regarding punishment and public notification. I agree that the twenty year old man that has consensual sex with and then marries the sixteen year old girl shouldn't be branded a sex offender just like the molester that violated the five year old next door but you'll be hard pressed to find a politician that's going to do anything that makes them look soft on sex crime. Do I think the location of convicted child molesters of children under say, fifteen (hypothetical number), be published? Yes but probably only to those in the local area. I don't know that I need to know where criminals live in upstate New York while I live in Texas. Also, how do we decide what our cut-off criteria for public notification are? Age? Violence of the act? Perversion beyond societal norms? As for adult rapes or aggravated sexual assaults maybe the law would require two convictions or one conviction and an additional allegation before making that information public. All in all a thorny issue.

That area of Los Angeles is a bad part* of town, even though USC is an expensive school to go to.

*Cheap housing, and apartments. I am sure register sex offenders have a hard time finding decent jobs when possible employers do a reference check.

I'm glad for databases like this. This is a great resource, and love the way the map has "pins" pointing out the "bad" guys.

As for 2 points I'd like to touch on... The first, yes, there should be different levels listed, pediphile or sex offense against children/minors, rapist, etc. I know on my street, there is a convicted fellon, he wasn't on this list though. His offense was when he was 17, now 48, and it was rape of an elderly lady. Although she consented at the time, he's had this his whole life. Most of his life he's made the wrong decisions, and has been spent in jail regardless.

Second, DUI. In Ohio, if convicted of DUI, the state makes you get a different license plate. These stand out like a sore thumb. If anyone in the neighborhood is convicted, we all know, and we also know is you associate with convicted DUI drivers. Not sure how long they need to keep the plates though, this only started this year.

I remember hearing about that... and it's got some issues as well... what happens if Mrs Absorbentishe gets fed up wiht all the time you spend on TFP and decides to go out drinking with the girls and gets a DUI on the way home. Is her car tagged? Or yours - what's to stop her from driving your car, assuming you are both insured on both cars. What happens if your car gets sick and you take Mrs. Absorbentishe's car with the special plate and someone decides that people convicted of DUI's should be expunged from the earth and drives you off the road, you didn't do anything wrong though - ... It's making the driver of the car a target.

Unless you can guarentee me with 100 percent degree of certainty that these databases are going to be accurate (and I don't think that's possible, they are just opening the door for trouble)

I have no sympathy for them.

I also have none living by me apparently :)

Just a little update, you can tell exactly what they did by finding the person on the map, clicking their name, then a window will pop up and click on offenses. For instance, I found one that says: "Offense Code: 288(a) / Description: LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS"

So yeah, we can tell exactly what they did. It also has a picture of them so that puts out the "oh, well it could have been the 19 year old w/ the 14 y/o". :D

I applaud sites such as these, if they do describe the specific crime. We have recently had two repeat sex offenders that committed murder and rape or attempted murder following a rape on children who temporarily avoided detection by crossing state lines.

These people had been convicted before and were expected to be repeat offenders. They were not young lovers caught by daddy, but brutal rapists and killers that served their time and were released to rape and kill again.

If you are curious, google Edward Duncan III and John Rollins Tuggle. There should be a special place in hell for these two preditors.

Keep in mind, the information you see listed is what the person was convicted of, not charged with. I know a guy that lives about 1/2 mile from me who was convicted of indecent exposure. What he actually did was get a 15 y/o girl drunk and force her into sex. He was convicted of a lesser offense after plea barganing down to the exposure offense. Consequently, all the public can see is the conviction info, not the offense.

This is not a correct map. You'll have to scan the area on your map there on zoom level 3 to see all the markers in that area. It looks like the density of sex offenders follows the general population density. Of course, densely populated areas are also usually cheap..

I hate those sites. I think they're an invasion of privacy.

Yeah, what they did was bad, but they served their time and it's done and over with. Move on.

BTW, many people get sex offenses for urinating in public or something as trivial as mooning.. so keep that in mind when you see people around your area. Also doesn't count for false accusations that people are often faced with.

Taking that into consideration, MOST people jump to conclusions when they see this shit instead of taking time out to see exactly WHAT they did. That's why it's bad... instead, these peoples lives are made a living hell and judged for no real reason.

These sites are really nothing but bad news. I mean, really.. you now know your neighbor is a sex offender, so what, you're gonna stop talkin to him, think differently of him, judge him? You gonna have your friends egg his house? Steal his mail, break his windows? You gonna completely overlook the fact he served his time, and that things are in the past, aren't ya?

If they're gonna make sex offender info public, might as well make EVERYONE'S criminal record public.. you know, "for the children".

Hey that way the amount of houses that appear can triple!

Jeez..

A perfect example of how wrong it can be. There was a 17 year old arrested, and found guilty of having sex with a minor. The minor was his girlfriend, who was 16, who he married 2 years later. Now 10 years later, they are still married but when he moves he has to walk around and tell his neighbors he is a sex offender, and here is my wife who i violated.

By the way, in this instance it was the D.A. who went after him, her parents and his parents had no problems with his relationship. And they testified to that!

What would you do if you found you had a convicted sex offender living on your street? Move? Good luck trying to get fair market value on your house if there's a 'bad person' living down the street... Burn down your house and collect the insurance? Arson is a crime? Lock your doors? Locks are not going to stop anyone with a purpose in mind? Spend your days and nights watching them? that's not much of a life...

What good does it do to know that the person across the street is a convicted sex offender?

I am not soft on crime or soft on criminals... I firmly support the death penalty for pretty much everything... (well not everything but most everything) but Idon't see how this won't lead to vigilantism... and I know people won't care because all that was done was hurt a child... well -- for some of the same reasons why I think Hate crime legislation is completely wrong -- making a crime against a child worse than a crime against an adult is also wrong.. a crime is a crime... if you are going to publicize sex offenders, then burglers and drunk drivers and other criminals should also be publicized.

I'm just curious as to when these people quit being offenders and become regular members of society.



I agree with mal (again) that hate crimes legislation is just silly. A crime is always going to be a hate crime. (of course this is exempt for things like jaywalking and the such) - On the subject of the license plates, there are a few states considering making sex offenders use pink plates. This is one of the worst ideas I could think of. Let's just make them more of a target shall we? What about the people who took a plea because someone said something completely false but was scared as to what could happen if he/she was wrongfully convicted? I just fail to see how the current system is any good or how making it tougher on <b>single</b> offenders can be good. (single= one charge, one conviction) Violent offenders and repeat offenders of course is a different story.

As much as I would like to beleive in our legal system, logically I know it's flawed, and I know people get wrongfully convicted, or will cop a plea to a lesser offence and aren't completely aware of what they are agreeing too. A lot of it has to do with, in most big cities, the legal system being so overburdened that prosecuters and public defenders will clear cases any way they can. (Spend some time in criminal court to see all the cases that get plea bargained down... )

To lump all sex offenders into one bucket is wrong. To make them public targets is wrong. I don't have sympathy for these people, I don't have sympathy for too many people (I'm no bleeding heart liberal) I do have a good sense of what is right and what is wrong... and public access (with the screwballs that are in the public) to these records is wrong.

Shouldn't do the crime if you can't take the punishment. Please lets drop the part of some 17 yr olds having sex. We know that is silly to be included on these sites, but real sex offenders and rapist need to be listed. I want to know where they live, I would like to have the choice to avoid walking my kid by some sicko's house like I'm advertising.

How can you be absolutely sure that these sites are accurate? If you think they are then let me tell you about my friend in Nigeria... I will guarentee there are errors... You are going to ruin someone's life because of an error? What if it were you that were listed as a sex offender?

how can you guarantee there NOT accurate? I never said they were. I would not care if i was listed because first I've never been arrested. I don't understand this is about people who have been convicted of committing a crime, are you just trying to flame me? Are you saying that some people are listed on that site in error? who, we should report these errors. If that is the case then why don't you move to a state that is not included in these types of sites to protect yourself?
I understand the point that the site can include some errors that could have harsh effects on someones life. If were going to stop everything then that could harm someone should be not "close" the internet to stop people from posting naked pictures of people who don't want there pictures posted? or was it the persons who allowed there naked self to be photographed who is to blame? should we stop the production of cars as someone might get drunk and drive one? Maybe i just don't understand what your post is trying to accomplish.

I already live in a state, for the time being, that is not included in this particular site. Why would I bother trying to flame you? I'm simply stating a concern that if these sites are not accurate, then there is no point in having them .. because they can do harm to people who do not deserve harm to be done to them. You are harming them needlessly. Accuracy is important.

If it's so important to list rapists and sex offenders, why aren't people on their high horses about listing murderers and drunk drivers, they should both be of a concern...

I agree that murderers and drunk drivers should be listed as well, but this thread was about sex offenders, and i agree the sites have the potential for harm if there not accurate.



high horse? thanks

An interesting companion to this map is the recent development of the first "sex-offender free" community in Lubbock, Texas. Basically its like a closed gate housing development that background checks all of its residents and bars sex offenders... Im not sure if its been succesfull but it makes me worried that it might spread further, to the point where the offenders may be treated as lepers. A little exaggeration, yes, but with this one community the seeds have been sown...

http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/...ffenders.shtml

I'm not a parent, but I think I am going to go against the grain here.

I don't really think that these types of sites are really going to increase vigilantism. How many of you folks saw people that you knew or are in your neighborhood. Anyone of you go out and beat them up? I understand the argument, but most convictions are of public record anyway. I'd imagine that if you are determined enough to go out and rid the world of sexual predators, you'd be willing to do a bit of research about it instead of just waiting for an easy-to-use website to pop up.

I suppose I understand the argument that there isn't much you can do differently even knowing the information, but here is an example.

If I had a younger son (say 9-10 years old) and This Guy lived next door and offered to babysit my child, I would know to avoid putting my child in danger. Granted, simply because you had done something in the past doesn't necessarily mean that you'll do it again, but I would feel a helluva lot more comfortable knowing that my babysitter has NEVER been convicted of a sexual offence with a minor than someone who had, but served their jail time or whatever.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, and unfortunately there are people out there who -at least in my mind- don't "deserve" to be labeled as such (like a 17 year old with a 16 year old) but the fact of the matter is - they broke the law. I'm not trying to insinuate that the law is just or acceptable, but if people think it is unfair - get the law changed. I don't think that allowing people that were convicted of sex crimes (especially with children) should be allowed to live wherever they please without parents at least having the option of finding out about it...

The biggest problem I have with these lists is the publication of them on the internet. If I live in NJ, unless I am planning on moving there, why do I need to know that there are 212 sex offenders in East Bumfuck, Nebraska? If I was planning on moving to that area, I would check it out, I would go to the police department and find out stats.

This is information that, at best, belongs in the neighborhood only, let the police notify the neighborhood who is a sex offfender/murderer/burglar/drug dealer/whatever... What good comes from putting it on the internet for worldwide consumption.

I think the key here is providing the information so that the public can make an informed decision. The internet is simply an easier way to do this. While these sites dont encourage vigilantism, they simply provide the information for people to make an informed decision about their community. What about dating sites that promote "love birds not jail birds"? Should that information only be available at the police station?

I found this interesting:

taken from http://www.prisonerlife.com/articles/articleID=42.cfm


also found a place that has way more info than I care to read... http://www.sohopeful.org/forum/index.php?f=151



ok..now to fend off any future attacks. YES I understand that even 1% is a bad thing..however I am merely posting this to show that the media buzz and witchunts are a little off. For every stupid pyscho sex offender that did something disgusting, they should talk about the hundreds of thousands who have "conformed" and are living normal healthy lives.

I'm still looking for the stats that breakdown the recividism rates by nature of the crimes.. I've seen them before. Damn memory loss

I sat in court one day when I was 18 -for a drug related offense. Before my case -there were a number of "indecent exposure" cases before me pleading for leniancy. The typical case went like this:

'I was getting ready to take a shower when I remembered that I left my wallet in my car. So I threw on my bathrobe and went out and got it from my car. I guess my neighbor (whom I haven't been getting along with) saw me and called the police. They came to my door and gave me a ticket.'

My point is that these are what people are being arrested for as sex-crimes. If the recidivism rate is low -it's because most people are arrested for trumped up charges. -If they arrest the right person at all.

Jesus Christ! That is so wrong, I don't even know where to begin.

You're missing the important point - that there is a statistician with the name Furby.

It may well be hard to put ones life back together if you are on one of these sites.

I guess perhaps raping that child wasn't such a good idea after all.

Caring = null

Are you talking about a specific case or your general perception of people who have to register as sex offenders?

This is kind of the point that I'm trying to make... Not everyone that is on the sexual offenders list raped a child.... My favorite 18 year old with the 16 year old girlfriend is on the list as well... there are other people on the list, like Glava's example that don't belong on that list.

The term sexual offender is too all emcompassing, people are probably going to think that it's child rapist -when in fact it might not be .. but unless the average citizen (and the average citizen is not going to take the extra click or three) is given proper information, more harm than good can come from this.

Mal, would sites such as these serve a better purpose if only "significant" crimes with the potential to reoffend be listed? I agree that young lovers do not belong on lists such as these, but they can serve a community service if they are carefully vetted for the potential for repeat offenders.

So what if these site were restricted to "real" sex crimes, offenses which live up to the public's view of the term "sex offender"? Are they still invasive, unfair etc?

I personally looked at the charges in my area, its not that hard to do for Illinois so again I fail to see a major problem. Yes perhaps it sucks for the 18 year old caught banging his 15 year old GF or whatever, but then get that aspect of the law changed. While my local area is sex-offender free I found some pretty bad dudes not far out of walking range just south of me.

Someone made the point that these people have served their time and deserve their privacy-- that's not necessarily true. Many are not incarcerated long at all (NoSoups 'This Guy' was sentanced to only 4-6 years for multiple sodomy of a 10 and a 11 yr old boy). That punishment does not fit the crime! Many people serve only portions of their sentances and are released. They are not rehabilitated, but are now living amoungst us, that is why this info is available to us. I am not sure where your info is coming from, but I have studied Criminology and I assure you sex offenders have high rates of recidivism, (no not the 18 yr/ who has a 17 yr old g/f), but the rapists, molesters, sodomizers, etc do.
As for this causing vigilantism, to be politically correct- no. My personal opinion-- I won't loose any sleep if someone were to go around and kill every rapist, child molester, etc that they find. But that's just me.

I'm just curious if this is a broad general statement or if it is dealing with specific cases. I understand that some people are not rehabilitated. Yes I support a database that shows people who are likely to reoffend.


(Don't take this personally) There is too much data that supports the other argument. Sex offenders simply don't reoffend as much as people commonly believe. Some studies do show that rapists have a higher recidivism rate of all the groups with the incest group having the lowest. Of course I know that numbers can be fudged and that you can use stats to prove any argument, however the amount that is out there for the other argument is mind boggling.

Before I could even begin to agree with such a statement we would have to define what a child molester, etc is. I have no sympathy for rapists or pedophiles, however, in the case of the 18 year old guy with a 15 year old g/f, under the law she is still a child. Is he considered a child molester?


I feel strongly that there are better ways to deal with these types of people than just branding them with the scarlet letter. Rehabilitation could be reformed as well as imposing longer sentences with certain types of crime. Putting their faces on a database lumped together with people who will never do anything again or who were railroaded by the system just isn't the answer. Making them use pink license plates so the next drunk driver who's in a rage can say "Git er done!" and swipe them off the road isn't the answer.


This brings me to another point. (It's a tad off topic but still in the same general scheme of things) How can we expect recidivism rates to go down when the programs for offenders [all kinds not just sexual] aren't there? Think about it, you have someone who made a mistake, now they get out of jail or put on probation and they can't find a job, they can't make a living for themselves, they can't vote [the very core of our freedom in one sense]. It's no wonder that recidivism rates are high. We say here ya go, here's your record, have a nice life and good luck. That just doesn't cut it. If the government were really concerned about reducing crime, they would put some programs in place to help these people maintain jobs and such.


*Yes I know some states do have these types of programs, but I feel they are under-budgeted and often times employed by people who just don't care*

consider this my $.50

How can you guarantee that? The law obviously does not discrimate between the 17 & 16 year boy/girlfriend old having sex (in some states).

And then you look at the map, see these people and they are innocent people not molestors. While others are, but we put them all together.

I do agree that these people almost are never cured, it is a dis-order (my wife is a psychologist and deals with this at times, more with the abused child).

And how much will the map really help, this is information local law enforcement needs.

I would conceed that you can get statistics to support any view point you want. I am basing mine on those I learned in college.
As for defining a child molestor, that should be redefined. I think 13-14 and under would be a good age. Kids grow so fast (it seems), that many are giving consent, and know exactly what they are getting into sexually, at around this age.


When I posted and reread this-- LOL my whole "ZAZU" thing does not fit with this discussion! So please do not think it does...lol

The example of the 18 yr old guy and the 15 yr old girl and the angry father is no different than you or I having too much to drink one night, and doing something stupid like driving. You may have only done it once, you may not. Next time might be the time you kill someone. Does that make you an evil person? Did you calculate and plan on killing someone or even just hurting someone? Probably not. Now take a sex offender. Not the kid and his girlfriend, but the rapist, or the child molester. The guy who stalks women or little children. I sure as hell want to know where he is living, and if he was near my children, or near where they walk or play. He is worse than a drunk driver or a burgler. He is cold and calculating, and in his warped brain, he is much more likely in my mind to do it again. He NEEDS to do it again. It is exciting for him.

A child should never have to suffer in any way. A woman should not be forced into sex and made to suffer. That is why I think knowing where these people are helps.