Porn Addiction as Bad as Heroin Addiction?
 

Addiction to porn destroying lives, Senate told

Comparing pornography to heroin, researchers on Thursday called on Congress to finance studies on "porn addiction" and launch a public health campaign about the dangers.

"We're so afraid to talk about sex in our society that we really give carte blanche to the people who are producing this kind of material," said James B. Weaver, a Virginia Tech professor who studies the impact of pornography.

Internet pornography is corrupting children and hooking adults into an addiction that threatens their jobs and families, a panel of anti-porn advocates told the hearing organized by Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., chairman of the Commerce subcommittee on science.

Brownback, a father of five, said when he was a boy, the typical kid's exposure was limited to occasional peeks at dirty magazines illicitly obtained by a buddy.

Now, he said, pornography seems pervasive. Children run across it while researching homework on the Internet. Vulgar ads arrive unexpectedly by e-mail. Some of his middle-age male friends limit their time alone in hotel rooms to avoid the temptation of graphic pay-per-view movies, Brownback said.

Mary Anne Layden, co-director of a sexual trauma program at the University of Pennsylvania, said pornography's effect on the brain mirrors addiction to heroin or crack cocaine. She told of one patient, a business executive, who arrived at his office at 9 a.m. each day, logged onto Internet porn sites, and didn't log off until 5 p.m.

Layden called for billboards and bus ads warning people to avoid pornography, strip clubs and prostitutes.

The panel discussion ranged from hardcore, violent pornography to audience complaints about a sexually suggestive promo that aired prior to this week's "Monday Night Football" game.

Brownback, an outspoken Christian conservative who has championed efforts to curb indecency on television and the Internet, said the public is beginning to realize "they don't just have to take it."

But he acknowledged the First Amendment right to free speech has limited congressional efforts.

In June, the Supreme Court blocked a law designed to shield Web-surfing children from pornography, ruling that requiring adults to register or use access codes before viewing objectionable material would infringe on their rights.

Brownback said scientific data is needed to help his cause.

Weaver acknowledged that research "directly assessing the impact of pornography addiction on families and communities is rather limited."

But he pointed to studies that show prolonged use of pornography leads to "sexual callousness, the erosion of family values and diminished sexual satisfaction."

Judith Reisman, a vocal critic of the Kinsey Institute and the field of sexology, suggested Congress require police officers to gather evidence of pornography at crime scenes to further research
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When will we be seeing ads for Pornography Anonymous? :D

Discuss the pros and cons of pornography.

Heroin... :rolleyes: Yeah, right. :rolleyes: Try, No way!! :lol:

More scare tactics by religious fanatics if you ask me!

[Edit] It's called, parents need to monitor their childrens' activities closer!

I think pornography can definitly be addicting, and even desensitising. I have a friend who is a porn freak. Just recently, he's been starting to hook up with girls (after rougly 19 years of nothing but his hand and a good webpage), but he's found that he prefers masturbation to sex. That's very alarming.

This is the most true statement in the article IMHO.
And that, at least, should be changed.

Porn addicting? probably. Just like television, computer games, board games, paper RPG's, eating, drinking, exercise, taking stupid studies to congres for no apparent reason, etc.

And pinkie, while your post is completely true, it is not really the stretch of the article. It is really more about the addiction in general (adults too) and what it does to people, not just kids.

He's not doing it right, seriously his inexperience is probably playing a big part there

Sex is such an unnecessary taboo that we've become afraid of it. People wouldn't be nearly as likely to get addicted to porn if they weren't constantly being force-fed this bullshit that sex is evil and dirty.

lol well its hardly the same thing as hardcore drugs..but how exactly do you get addicted to porn anyway?

EVERYTHING can cause addiction as long as you find it pleasant

Pornography is mentally addictive in certain individuals. I used to think I was addicted to pornography, but there's a simple test. Abstain for a month. I'm about halfway through it and I haven't really had any major temptations.

I agree d*d about the guy who prefers masturbation to sex. It takes time to get proficient with sex. I used to think I was the same way, but now I realize the opposite is true.

I think the study is a good idea though, just so long as they don't try to ban porno outright because of it. Alcohol, cigarettes, sex, the Internet, television, and many other things are addictive to a small portion of society. That doesn't mean they should be banned.

I find that I am not in agreement with most of Mr. Brownbacks agenda.

Sex in America will be between husband and wife and only in the missionary position with no birth control allowable with a time limit of 1 minute to guarantee the spreading of sperm strictly for procreation reasons.

No enjoyment of said sexual act will be permitted.

Men will feel a sense of accomplishment, not performance guilt for their part and the women will feel empowered by receiving the gift of sperm and are not to feel slighted for lack of satisfaction.

THERE WILL BE NO ENJOYMENT OR PLEASURE REGARDING THE SEXUAL ACT. THAT IS ILLEGAL.

Any other person or persons engaging in any sexual act or acts will risk fines and jail time.

Any pornographic materials seized by the government agency Proactive Infidel Marginalization Processing Systems (PIMPS) or by Communities Uniting Neighborhoods Together Safely (CUNTS) will be destroyed immediately.

Missionary position sex is only allowable one weekday a month between 9:00 p.m and 9:01 pm and only if children are safely out of harms reach and sleeping for one half hour.

Missionary sex is prohibited Sundays as this is the Lords day. Normal Sunday activities such as morning church and prayers are mandatory. Anyone not attending church for good reason will have missionary sex privileges denied for 6 months and on probation for the next 6 months.

REPEAT; Anyone in contact with pornographic materials will be dealt with strictly and to the fullest extent of the law. This is for the safety and morality of all America. We are fighting a war on pornography that will be won. One day when pornagraphy ceases to exist, so to will Hell ceases to exist. Remember, if we stand as one,think as one without opinion or dissension, remiss of any individuality, this vile entity can be beaten.

YOU ARE WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US.


For a free brochure regarding rules and regulations concerning allowable sex please contact:
The White House
Dept// Fornication Utilization Commencement Transcripts (FUCT)
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

hahahahaha!!! ROTFL...

so, do women ever get addicted?

just curious...

OFKU0... thanks for the great laugh. I can't tell if it's fake or real.
I totally don't get how people can watch porn for 8 hours straight. Like the example:

I'd be sick of it after 10 mins if I was trying to do work.

How long before they link porn to terrorism. Hey perhaps they will find that Bin Laden is behind all porn in an attempt to make men & women masturbate so much they can’t fire a gun. As a Brit one of the best things I like about America is the ability to produce some great porn films.

Fuck them. Who are they to tell me what's "indecent" and unacceptable for my viewing? It's not like it's unavoidable. There are plenty of channels that don't show much sexual material at all, and on top of that, the FCC has draconian rules regarding what can and cannot be aired on TV as it is. Certain people will get addicted to anything, and the only way to possibly completely protect them is to take away all stimuli from them, where they would then die. *gives conservative nutcases the thumbs up sign*

Pro's: The obvious pros to pornography (or other sexually explicit media) are its ability to teach couples different ways to spice up their marraige and give them new ideas and ways of trying different things with their SO. It enables single people to have a visual in their self-sexual exploration. Sex sells. It helps some business attract a particular niche of clientele. It has some benefits in the medical field, i.e. Sperm Banks.


Con's: Sex sells. Not just porn, but sex in general is used in so many facets of advertising media that it is everywhere. Kids don't really have to search real hard these days to find sexually explicit material that is probably inappropriate for them to be seeing. Pornography promotes early sexual experimentation in kids. They see it and they want to do it. Unfortunately, they do it before they are aware of the full implications of sexual acts, whether it be pregnancy, disease, or even the emotional turmoil that comes with entering into a sexual relationship with someone.

Now, is it destroying lives and is it addicting? I think that is more of a scare tactic some conservative nut jobs are forcing down our throats. Brain patterns mirror that of cocaine and heroin? I think eating food mirrors the same brain patterns. Exercising mirrows the same brain patterns. However, you can't have a physical addiction to pornography so how they can even try to group porn into the drugs realm is just a bunch of hokey bullshit.

Now honestly I know it comes to our e-mails but how many of you have honestly "come across it while researching homework on the internet" ?? I know I never did. I looked for it. And it wasn't THAT long ago that I haven't been in grade school but last time I checked all the "research" I had to do was right there in my text book. I can agree with some of the moral issues in this but rather than waste our money researching it keep an eye on your freakin children! It's not very hard to find out what they've been looking at, granted they're getting smarter these days. Now heres a good question...Obviously pornography has it's faults but

If there were no more pornography this day and age do you think there would be more sex at a younger age or less? It's hard for me to decide as it all starts with the curiousity.

Asta!!

I bet porn would be a lot less addicting if some parts of our society weren't so incredibly repressed when it comes to sex. Ironically these same parts are the ones leading the charge against pornography.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Dually quoted.


I have to agree, that's a very strong point in this subject. And I could not have said it better myself. Props to Filtherton.

I just dont see how porn could be addicting. And even if it is addicting.... who cares? What people do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business. I wish people would stay out of everyone elses business.

As far as children being exposed to it.... why dont you keep an eye on your own children instead of worrying about everyone elses?

Are there still people out there suggesting that children are just "happening on porn while trying to do their homework?" Are parents so stupid that they actually buy this line? That it right up there with, "No, mom. I'm just in here combing my hair."

The other objectionable point that children who go to the internet for their homework are CHEATING! Unless the teacher specifically says to use the internet to find the answer to: "Give three reasons the Revolutionary war happened?", the teacher probably meant to for the students to actually read the chapter in their textbook and learn the answer. You remember learning, don't you Johnny? Nope, Johnny sure doesn't. If your child is turning to the internet to solve their algebra, history, and science problems, he/she is never going to learn to think for themselves.

That's my $.02 (off topic, of course).

On topic, I think porn can be damaging or not depending on how it is used. If a couple want to watch something together for enjoyment, arousal, or information, then it can be a positive. If a single person of either sex is looking for a easy release or just some fun, then no harm done. When someone (in a relationship or not) uses porn to replace the real opportunities for human interaction and sexuality, then it becomes a problem.

I have to agree with everyone that porn is not a dangerous addiction, but I think we all can admit it is addicting. I know myself I will sometimes go in this 2-3 day stint where I am obsessed with porn on the internet. Like I just discovered it or something, then I realize what I am doing, and I don't look at porn for a few months, but it is extremely addicting if you let yourself fall into it.

I've lived with a heroin addict. No comparison.

Damn sorry I've entered the wrong forum - must get back to the titty board now .

I just wanted to drop a quote from the Daily Grind:
:lol: Now that's a graphic image. (The author is female, BTW).

Comparing porn to heroin? C'mon... :rolleyes:

fap, fap, fap...

Huh? What...?

fap, fap, fap, fap....

What (fap) addiction (fap, fap)?

Thank goodness for tabbed browsers.

Porn can be "addicting," like computer games, TV, alcohol, etc. But to compare it to heroin, which chemically causes physiological changes in the brain, is absurd.

I don't understand how a business executive can look at porn for 8 hours everyday. And I don't understand how he can still keep his job as a business executive if he does that.

I never knew pornography was so common at crime scenes, that police could regularly collect it and study it.

I think people are really underestimating the problem. Pornography is just as dangerous as any drug. It starts innocently enough, with something maybe like a Girls Gone Wild vid. Then you see an add for "Live Hot XXX Streaming Video!!! FREE!!!" which you check out. Pretty soon, that's not enough, and you are mugging old lady's to feed your $1000 per week Japanese Cosplay Bukkake vid habit.

Yeah, I know but it's the "...Children..." they use as the excuse to market the idea as a new epidemic!!! The internet is the “gateway” to addiction… blah, blah, blah… Next they'll start popping up with new "private school" warehouses that you can send your kid to to "cure them" of their "porn addiction" for four thousand dollars a month, maximum stay 18 months, or until their insurance stops covering!

BOO!!!

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :icare: :D :lol:

I don't know.

A fellow I grew up with turned into a meth-head and once sold his shoes for drug money (To the dealer, no lie.)

I've not once heard of the fellow who sold his shoes for Girls Gone Wild.

No other comment. Just an observation.

When you outlaw porn, only outlaws...

Seriously. I hate the fact that with all the problems in the country at the moment that these wack religious zealots are even allowed to waste the senates time with this utter bullshit.

I want my,
I want my,
I want my Porn TV....

I doan waan no steengkeeng MTV. I want Porn!

I think porn is addictive, myself. I think that because I think I have a tendency to be addicted to it.
I think that porn and heroin are similar in the way that people get addicted to them because in both cases you start by consuming small amounts, but as you keep consuming it, you are never satisfied with the previous amount. You are always hungering for more.
I think that a large number of sexual predators are addicted to pornography. Ted Bundy, for example admitted that the source that he believes got him into all the mess that he got into was pornography itself.
I think pornography is dangerous, and should be treated with the same concern as drugs.
In schools we teach children about the dangers of drug abuse, but we'd laugh at the thought of teaching about the dangers of pornography abuse. Most likely because nobody thinks there is such a thing. I think pornography is wrong and dangerous. I think it can get people into trouble. And I think it's addictive.

Porn is as addictive as drugs? I can't believe that some people actually believe that :0

Unlike some people believe, there is Nothing wrong with pornography. If someone is addicted to porn, he shouldn't say "porn is evil and addictive!", he should say "I have no self control". People should look at themselves instead of pointing the finger at other things. Otherwise what's next? Will we need to ban anything that could possibly be addictive (television, music, fast food, etc)? Give me a break..

i don't think porn is addictive. I do think masturbation/sex is though. We're evolutionarily wired to want sexual satisfaction so we can reproduce and further our species. I really hate how north america is so sexually repressed. What harm is nudity doing to our children? Especially with the extreme and excessive violence that seems to be accepted so readily.

so porn addictive as drugs.... absulutley... i think there are 2 kinds of people on this topic.. those that have no idea.. ( say no way...) those that know it is... either curently "use" or have "kicked" the habit.. i think i do qualify as addict.. have tried not to.. cannot.. im not syaing you will react the same but the basics are deffinlty the same GOT TO HAVE IT. like i said either you will understand this or you wont.... do i think there is somthing congress could do about this... hell no...its the same as evrey other addiction... you have to want to quit ..if you dont want to quit you wont....i guess really there is no other person to quit for excpet yourself....anyway.. my 2 cents yes porn is addictive....

So, rfra3645, you've been addicted to heroin and know that porn is just as addictive and difficult to kick?

These two types of people you speak of......are you referring to people who have tried heroin and have been addicted? If that is the case, then yes, I have no idea. If you are referring to people who like to look at porn, and still have no idea, then I have to completely disagree with your logic. Heroin users develop a physical, mental and emotional dependency to heroin. Have you ever seen someone walking down the street shaking because they haven't been able to look at some good vagina lately? I think not.

Luke, embrace the dark side....

Porn is better than no porn. It's always ready and available, requires no tender words, doesn't mind if you fart, and couldn't care less if you ignore it when you're done.

Man, talk about apples vs oranges...

Replace porn with video games, biting your nails, shopping, eating, drinking, laughing, sex, masturbation, and sleeping.. because they're all equally addicting.

Can one find immense pleasure in it to the point where that's all they want? Yep. You can also find immense pleasure in eating chocolate. You can find immense pleasure in spending 8 hours a day playing an MMORPG.

Heroin is a whole other story: your body NEEDS it if you're addicted to it. Same with cigarettes. You CAN live without them, but your body won't feel too good.

Porn, video game, eating, whatever addictions are mental. Some people can handle the urge to do em, some can't.

I don't understand how someone could become addicted to porn, but I don't understand addiction in general so I will not write it off as some of you have. I am still skeptical though.

My guess on 'porn addiction' is that you have fat housewives upset that their husbands don't find them attractive anymore and would rather jack off to pictures on the net than have sex with their bloated middle aged bodies. Calling it an addiction is a cop out for both of them, its no ones fault, he is just 'addicted' and needs help.

there are always people with weak wills who get hooked on something psychologically. Hardcore opiates like heroin, however, are NOT just a psychological habit. that comparison is moot.

However, there is a time and place for everything. Surfing porn while at work (unless it's a part of your job) is counter productive. The executive logged into porn sites for 8 hours should be doing his job instead of beating his wombhammer; though I'm guessing he just ties one off in the morning and doesn't log out of the site until he turns his computer off for the day.

My biggest beef with porn is the invasiveness of it. Porn sells itself, it doesn't need to be shoved in our faces for us to realize it's there. If someone is interested in beastiality or spanking or toe sucking porn, they'll go find it; they aren't going to wait for an ad to slip through their junk-mail filters. It's also very frustrating to check your email at work only to have hardcore photos of "pre-teens who love black cock in their asses" or "clueless young boy-sluts" take over your screen and make you trip over yourself trying to close the window before your coworkers see them and realize what a dirty mind the internet thinks you have. I believe this is just another form of harrassment akin to telemarketers, and should be abolished. If word of mouth isn't enough to get your revenue up, your porn site probably just sucks.

just my opinion.

Chemical addiction to opiates like Heroin are a completely different thing to a psychological addiction to looking at porn.

Oh, and looking at porn will not kill you (or even make you go blind!)

XDA

Wombhammer. That's awesome.

Well not really considering that there are probably literally thousands maybe millions of these porn sites out there and they're all offering the same thing, beautiful women(sometimes) exchanging sexual favors for cash. Kinda hard to stick out. Most of those guys are now amature porn guys who have a video camera/webcam and a computer and blow what little money they have left for their very first video and then try to make a name for themselves. Really fuckin stupid...for the true professionals at it you may be able to say it's a job, they handle the business, marketing and everything, have OFFICES and headquarters for their business these other amatuer guys are just losers who need to get a real job.

Asta!!

A giant time waster, like video games and cable TV, but not addictive.

Not to go off Mal's topic but I work for a firm that has fired people (both men and women) for viewing pornography from company equipment. Our policies are very clear about use of company equipment and for me ... frankly ... when I sneak a peak at tfp during the daytime even if I'm only visiting "General Discussion" I am running a risk of termination. Companies that enforce their policies have a more limited occurance of abuse. The drastic case of firings in my opinion have been isolated circumstances but there was one individual who worked for me on a project who was fired for having 4.5 gb's of porn on his hard drive. The company spyware picked it up and he was promptly shown the door.

I would love to know more about the study that concluded that the brain's reaction to porn mirrors that of heroin or crack. What specifically was the study and how were reactions measured?

The idead that billboards need to be put up to tell me to avoid prostitutes who've likely had 15 snausages in her mouth before she got to me is ludicrous. I have a story that I'll post in a different thread about a business trip I took to Detroit circa October 1998. Regardless I think that line discredits her motivations and the underlying data (if any exists) from her study on this matter.

Brownback's link to the Christian right immediately makes me speculative about his motivations. I'm not saying that all Christian conservatives are religous zealots because in fact (and some of you will find this hard to believe) I qualify as both of those. I am Christian and I am an economic conservative that leans a little more toward a centerists views on some "right wing nut job issues". Again that's for a different thread.

Brownback discredits himself by saying that scientific data is needed to back up what he believes to be true in order to "help his cause". If that doesn't smell of ulterior motive I'm not sure what does.

I'm not really sure what the hell this means? Do all criminals really carry porn with them before or during the perpetration of an act of crime? This is a complete speculative leap that reaks of I-want-this-to-be-true-so-make-the-stats-prove-it. There are three kinds of lies in this world. Lies, damn lies, and statistics!

The bottom line is for me is that I believe that porn can be addictive. Is it like heorin? I have no reference for that. In fact my only addiction is coffee and don't keep me from it. When I put it in that context in my own mind then I belive porn can be addictive. You must first have the predeliction of being an addict but if it's porn or heroin or crack cocaine that triggers your addictive response then is there really a difference?

The Cambridge definition of an addict is:

"a person who cannot stop doing or using something, especially something harmful:
a drug/heroin addict
a gambling addict
a sex addict
HUMOROUS I'm a chocolate/shopping addict"

"Especially something harmful". Overuse of porn -- even as reported by some posters to this web site -- has been shown to be harmful in some cases. Not all cases but some certainly qualify as porn addiction. I believe that based on the definition of addict as stated above that a porn addiction for someone who cannot stop using porn to the point that is causes them to store 4.5 gb's of it on their work pc is harmful. They are using work assets to enalbe their need/want/desire to use porn knowing the consequence could be that they might get fired. This is reckless bevoir that I would certainly classify as harmful.

Is porn as addictive as heroin? Again if you consider the definition I don't think there is a fundemental differnce. It might be easier to conceptualize the heroin addicts toubles from their addiction because of the mental image you have of a person living in the street who hasn't bathed in weeks with tract marks all over their body who is suffering from severe withdrawal symptoms. Obviously a porn addict is much more difficult to see as troubled because by most visual means they can appear to be functional people.

Is there a pro side to porn? Well....on a lighter note if it weren't for porn I'd have never seen women from the likes of Bo Derek to Denise Richards in photos where they appear naked! :D Thank you Hef! That's if you consider Playboy to be porn. And really..for most adolecent boys who sneak a peak at their father's Playboy magazines it's really all about learning what the opposite sex is all about and the majority of us never really develop an addiction. My belief is that if you have the genetic traits or other predilictions for addicive behavior then you are at risk of becoming an addict and that may include heroin, crack cocaine, coffee or even porn.

That's my 0.02c!

If there were no more porno, then people would just imagine their own situations/fantasies to jerk it to. Remeber that movie where Michael Douglas was the Psychologist and he was looking for that stolen loot with the crazy chick? well, thats besides the point, but he said something at the beginning of said movie, "everybody jerks off". Anyone who denies ever doing it is full of it. (except John Ashcroft, ill bet he never has)

Yeah, everyone knows that the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue and Victoria's Secret catalogs are the real gateways.

watched sevral of my close friends kick crack.....


suposedly just as addicting as heroin.....

yeah i gotta say they had the same menatality.....


thanks for asking...

lol agreed...

i am talking about people that need to see the porn..

that cant wait to get home to look at it....

the people that will "use porn" and sat the same think ... why the hell am i doing this....

i see no diffrence then the crack heroin (alcohol)

i have to stop at the liquor store... on the way home i only 3 beers left can absolutley not get thru the night w.o more...

if i dont kill the white guy in the beamer and steal his watch so i can seel it and buy 50 sack i will die.......

this is possibly a better picture as to what im refering....

if the addiction is physical or mental its still an addiction

I don't have any statistics, but if you're interested in a personal testimonial...

There are definitely paralells with pornography and addictive substances, although the comparison with heroin is ludicrous. I don't know whether 'addiction' is the right word per se, but I have definitely had a porn problem, just as I have had a marijuana problem and arguably an alcohol problem at times. Although these were almost immeasurably minor compared to a heroin addiction, they all had some undesirable effect on the rest of my life.

With porn, I found that my consumption started small and softcore and grew larger and more hardcore. I have looked at porn for eight hours straight, I've watched porn while I was supposed to be working, I've watched porn while I could have been socialising, I've been late for work because of it and I believe that my use of pornography had a detrimental impact on my relationship with a former girlfriend, not that she ever knew about it, but because of the 'sexual callousness' described above that it helped to cultivate.

Having experimented with various hard drugs and not become addicted, I would suggest that there is no inherently addictive quality that porn shares with heroin. In fact, the thing it has in common with marijuana and alcohol (my other former 'problems') is its ready availability.

I don't blame porn for these problems. Rather, as ninety09 suggests, it's due to weakness of character.

Porn is a tool of self destruction, not a cause. If you make porn as illegal as heroin, people who want somewhere to hide will just go somewhere more dangerous.

Even if you got rid of all the drugs and the drink and the gambling and the porn, losers would just become political or religious fanatics.

Frankly I prefer wankers.

This editorial from WIRED sums up my view on this topic pretty well:

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,65831,00.html

You just shouldn't compare porn and heroin. They are way different in there effects on the mind. orgasms are what people are addicted too. Not sex or porn.

If a porn addict lost his or her sex drive would they still need there porn fix? What are porn withdrawals like because I herd that heroin is way worse.

To much of anything is bad. like eating. I like my porn but if it were gone I would still get my release. for me porn a masturbation enhancement like loob.

The addiction to smoking cigs is far worse than porn could ever, ever be...

Porn doesn't kill people by causing lung cancer, like smoking does.

i'm just curious about what we're expected to do with this "research"

do they want to ban pornography? cause the prohibition worked so well.
or do they want to put warning labels on adult dvds saying
'cause warning labels have had a huge impact on cigarette sales :rolleyes: I'm so glad we're spending tax dollars trying to scientifically vindicate the moral perspective of the status quo.

Where can I get me some of them erototoxins???



*licks lips nervously*

Humm it can't be as bad......I think I was addictied to porn about a year ago......I'm fine now, but maybe its becuase I found better things to do with my time then sitting around watching people having sex :hmm:

i think wow this guy hit it on the head..... ( a few times it sounds like) but really yeah he said about what ive been trying to say...


what im not saying... i dont belive porn hurts anyone but the person doing it( minus the few unwilling or physically hurt in the "industry". im not saying the physical signs are the same..

i am saying mentally its the same you gotta have it... you know there is better or other shit to be doing yet you still "get your fix" .....

i may have not been clear.... heroin you ise once maybe up to 3 times your addicted.. porn you build it up... once a month then 1 once a week.. then evreyday.. then your in a set schedule.... its totally a mind thing... but i think i saw someone else say it was orgasm not porn.. i agre with that as well but they pretty much go and hand in hand...

someone else said if you didnt have porn you could still fantasise absofreakinlulty... but i can remember the fantasize part. id say most addicts do but it gradually builds and builds and then all of sudden its not good enuf...


anyway... i think this concludes my thoughts on this subject..


wierd disscusion....

Actually, if you learn about addiction itself, you'll find that anything can be an addiction and all addictions can get to the same level. You are basically chasing a good feeling that becomes elusive. But the chase doesn't.

I think I tend to agree with this.

IMO, porn is a means for adding some outside elements into a viewer's imagination that they may not have otherwise, but can then add to their repertoire afterwards.

It's all about imagination though, seriously. If you have a good imagination and the right mindset, I think you can do just fine without any porn "addiction."

Porn can get old for me, my imagination is key! (hey it rhymed)

If porn ever gets boring then your screwed

Well, until I see some government funded clinics trying to cure me of my chronic masturbation which, quite frankly, doesn't really hurt anyone, and sometimes involves porn but most often invloves quite vivid fantasies of people I've never met (thanks pinkie! :) :) ) then I'm going to say that heroin is WAY worse.

Cum addiction? How bad can that be?

Peace,

Pierre

I think TV is far more addicting than porn and far more prevalent. I know people(families) who turn the TV on every night after dinner until it's time to go to bed. Even when there is nothing particular on that they want to watch, they'll channel surf until they find something. Just try and get them to turn the damn thing off for a change and watch them fidget, LOL. Even very poor families somehow manage to buy a color TV to feed the habit. I believe it has become a necessity.
I don't know about herion, I just don't see it around much.

DING... I think we have a winner. One thing we have to make sure of is that we do not allow our religious parameters to get mixed up with our governmental parameters. For example:

Exactly, over conservative religious fanatics SHOULDN'T be able to change how our government works just becuase of the belief that their set of moral values is superior to others in the United States. Thats not how government should work, at all. It's called separation of church and state. Although thats rough when the president thinks that "God wants him to be president".

The point is, who cares if we masturbate and watch porn? As long as we are over 18 which is set by the legal system, we should be able to access as much goddamn pornography as we want. Damnit, sometimes I dont even NEED pornography, all I got is imagination. It just goes to show, we should be WAY more open to sexuality. I mean, come on... it's what created most of us (unless any of you are test tube babies).

This would be so funny if the Gov't didn't think I was true.
Also this reminds me of Perversion for Profit
http://www.archive.org/movies/detail...ctionid=00895a

Porn is addictive, but that doesnt necessarily mean its bad.

But i think that porn can be more devastating than Heroin.. I mean, cause its legal and free, so many ppl of all ages are into it. We live in the age of the internet and the amount of porn there... Woah~~

There is no limit to the amount of porn people look at, but heroin there is. You are limited by $$$. There are children all round the world addicted to it, and it ruin lives. Its sad, when you are addicted to porn.

I will pony up my experiences with porn addiction. I am addicted to porn. I am totally subservient to it in that when I see it, think about it, or even have an erection, I have to masturbate and view porn. I have gone only one day in the past three months without looking at porn. I have been late to work, class, and other appointments because of it. I don't get enough sleep because of it. I estimate that I spend over two hours a day with porn. I also estimate that I've spent over 1,000 hours of my life looking at porn. That works out to 5 weeks, 6 days, and 16 hours of my life at least so far. So, yes, porn can be addictive to the point that it starts eating away at one's life.

I don't see porn causing any gang wars or drive-by shootings.

Everyone gets to go to hell in their own handbasket.

tspikes51: The problem is not that you look at porn, the problem is that you are doing it inefficiently. You need to stop the endless, mindless surfing to find it. Concentrate on finding one or two very good link sources and use them to channel your efforts.

Jumping on blind links eats a way at your time and causes frustration. Trust me. Mindless link clicking will leave you mad and frustrated.

I think beating off raises the levels of chemicals in the body that relieve pain.
This is not altogether a bad thing :-)
and yeah, you might want to do it again.

Here's an official definition of addiction:

the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

An addict:

a person who is addicted to an activity, habit, or substance: a drug addict.

—v.t.
1. to cause to become physiologically or psychologically dependent on an addictive substance, as alcohol or a narcotic.
2. to habituate or abandon (oneself) to something compulsively or obsessively: a writer addicted to the use of high-flown language; children addicted to video games.

One of the definitions of addiction is if it has a negative impact on your life, your relationships or your occupation. For those that try to compare any addiction as being different from another I say you need to learn about addiction and forget what kind it is.

The heroin addict no longer has the physical effects after going through withdrawal, just as the smoker eliminates the toxins in 10 days to two weeks. It's the therapy and understanding the cause of the addiction that takes years or even a lifetime. When you give up an addiction, you are still an addict. The distinction is active, recovering or recovered (both of the last probably one in the same).

So, while porn addiction may sound funny - and I love to joke as well - in all seriousness, true addiction, as defined, isn't funny. Just go back to the definition above.

I remember a while back during Nixon's administration they did a study with college students to try and prove the negative effects of porn. As I recall they showed a focus group several hours of porn each day. Much to the dismay of the administration the report came back that the overall effect was boredom. The students were sneaking their text books into the theatre to get some work done, LOL.

I can assure anyone in doubt, you have no idea to what degree you can truly want or crave something until you have first hand experience with opiate withdrawl. The only thing I know of that remotely comes close is mourning the death of someone close to you, which ironically happens to be a common side effect of a lifestyle involving opiates. Heroin addiction is far more powerful than sensationalist idiots like these clowns realize and these kind of comparisons are ridiculous and far too common. I've never met anyone who died jerking off but I can't say the same of people I knew that used heroin.

By the way, does anyone have any kleenex? I'm out and seem to have made a mess on my monitor again...

Pinion is absolutely right.

Porn "addiction" won't make you shit your pants, spew streams of stuff that looks like antifreeze, or unable to walk down the street, either. Has porn ever made you lie in your own vomit on a concrete floor begging for help? Ever jacked off so much you were tempted to rob an old lady of her purse, or sell your ass on the street?

Beyond the physical aspect is the indescribable nightmare of the soul that can only be (hopefully) survived, not described. Heroin will absolutely consume every aspect of your life if given a chance and unfortunately it has to be experienced to be truly understood.

Young Peter Griffin - "Why did the dinosaurs die off?"
Tour Guide - "Because you touch yourself at night."