I'd expect this from PETA but....
 

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/art...semeat-ON.html

It's not like the people bitching about slaughtering horses are giving their horses the best treatment they can. We've already established the fact that we view ourselves as better than them by forcing them to run in circles while some midget smacks them to make them run faster. Why should killing them for food be any different?

If PETA said this, if would make total sense to me. I wouldn't agree with it, but I could understand their position. The thing is that these are people who are entertained by the exploitation of these animals. Who are they to say that we can exploit them in this way but not another?

Nice little racist jab at the French there too... I'm glad we have such open-minded people in our government. Oh wait, he's a Republican, never mind.

Personally, I see little difference between a cow, and a horse. UNless one has a good sauce.

Re: I'd expect this from PETA but....
 

Yes, just ignore that France was mentioned as one of the countries where the horsemeat went :rolleyes:

Horses have helped humanity for 8,000 years, as transportation, warriors, and entertainers. There are a lot of people who believe that horses should be treated better then a large number of humans. I can see where their horror comes from.

Re: I'd expect this from PETA but....
 

Couldn't possibly agree more, and as far as I'm concerned it isn't different.

People go crazy over religion and animals, and I seem to make people even crazier because I couldn't give a fuck less about either one.

I don't eat horse. Nor do I eat cat, dog, rat, worm, grubs, cockroaches, etc......but other cultures do. As an American, I see the need for keeping cultural laws in place, IN THE U.S. ONLY, so your next door neighbor doesn't end up coming over and eating your pussy. (totally non-sexual comment there). However, if other cultures dine on particular meats, bugs, rodents, etc...then I especially think we should keep out mouths shut about it. Who are we to decide what other cultures deem appropriate for the palette?

MMMMmmmm.
Nothing like a nice, thick Belmot or Preakness Steak. Never had horse, but I dont see what the big deal is.
Ungulates are food first, transport second, animals third.

What about using horses to make glue? Is that included in the way we respectfully treat horses? What about Jello? Does eating horses only count if we're making steaks?

It's the circle of life.

We die and get buried. Then grass grows from our graves. Then the horses eat the grass.

The bastards are eating our ancestors! I say we kill them all before they end up feasting on Grandma...


Mr Mephisto

I own horses, and will say they are more personable then a cow by far. More like a dog. Then again, my aunt had this cow that acted like it was a dog.

It should be taken into consideration however, that pets dont become personable until they have owners who interact with them. On trhe large scale, horse,. cat, dog, or beef... its all meat. As long as its not an animal IO cared about, I dont mind.

my family owns 6 horses... they serve no purpose in modern society other than entertainment... so i dont see the what the problem is in them entertaining my stomach.

hmmm... ive never had horse before... i'll have to give it a try sometime...

Completely agreed. Unless it's an endangered or protected species, I could care less who eats what.

If they feel so strongly about not eating horses, they can make a law saying you can't sell, trade or use horses for food in the U.S. But, they can't think they can stop these other countries from eating horses. They could stop them from eating American horses, but not horses in general.

I'm not sure, but it might have been the U.S. who coined the phrase, "I'm so hungry, I could eat a horse." In my opinion, if you like the taste, go for it.

This made me smile.. really wide. = D

I willing to eat horse steak. I wonder if it tastes like chicken.

Other cultures have horse frequently appearing on menus... They're only raising a fuss because it's an animal that we don't think of as food, and a matter of culture. Ever try to eat a cow in India?

What happens if you try to eat a cow in India?

Hindus worship cows. I personally don't have a problem with eating horses, as long as they're killed humanely.

Of course, the government rounds up wild horses in the west every year and sells them, sometimes to slaughter, because they graze on land used by ranchers for cattle.

What about bambi?

It's food people.

I could care less if half the other countries in the world ate human corpses after they expired. Let alone horses.


Not that I would eat human... wtf ... I'm disgusting myself now

The "American psyche"? I find it amusing how these senators and state representatives are always so well tuned to how the entire nation feels about a specific topic. Now if this were only true when it comes to shit that really matters, then we'd really be going somewhere.

horse, cow, pig, goat, etc... They are all domesticated animals raised as livestock. If someone in the US can raise them for slaughter to be sold overseas I say go for it. Better to have them raised in America and give hard working Americans a job than having those jobs disappear because now some French farmer has taken over..

I'm still not sure what we did wrong to be put on the list along with the French :p

Oh, right, we eat horsemeat, I forgot :)

The vast majority of dead horses go into Dog and Cat food (we don't make glue from horses anymore we have nasty chemicals for that... ;))

I don't see any issue whatsoever with raising horses for human consumption. Protien is protien.

Parts is parts.

and Meat is Meat.

I adore horses, but this doesn't bother me. Like somebody up thread pointed out, people in India would be disgusted when we tear into a nice juicy steak...

I highly doubt that.. I think they would keep the winner alive and racing, I think the word he's looking for is loser..

We used to buy horse meat at the Navy Commissary in Jacksonville. It was available for about a year or so around 1988. It's basically really cheap steak.

I can afford real steak now, so that's what I eat.

While I love horses, I don't see the difference between eating them and eating cows.

Making law based on emotion is foolishness.

The funny thing is that horse meat is probably better for you than most of what come out of the cattle industry these days...

The absence of Bovine Growth Hormone for one...

We already use their bones and hides to make gellatin, why does makeing a steak out of them change it?

If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?

That's funny

As a matter of interest, what does horse meat actually taste like?

Whilst I tend to agree with the first statement, I'm not sure about the second.

"Making law based on emotion is foolishness".


Erm, isn't that what ALL laws are based upon?

That is, emotion as manifested by religious or social mores.


Mr Mephisto

I'd eat a horse. I'd eat anything once. Dog...Bring it on. I like what Tophat said:
Ungulates are food first, transport second, animals third.

And if you and I ever crashed in the mountains, you had better watch your ass. :-)

I agree with all those who've said. Animal meat is all the same - except for the taste. Besides we've killed horses in the US here for profit. What's the difference between that and exporting them for other countries to use them.

Only kind of animal I don't want you killing and eating - My PET. But then again that animal belongs to me and if I was raising it solely for food I still wouldn't want you taking it to eat. It's a matter of possession and what I choose to do with what is mine. As long as you aren't torturing or mistreating the animal it makes no difference to me if you pet it or eat it.

My thoughts on this when I started the thread was the hypocrisy of the people in the horse racing industry and the fans of it when they think that its ok to race them but not to eat them. It's not that eating horses is wrong, but that the way they treat the horses is acceptable and raising them for slaughter is somehow immoral.

The jockeys smack the horse with a whip to make them run faster and they inject them with cortizone shots to make them push through the pain. If the horse breaks its leg its probably put to sleep. Those are examples of what they call acceptable ways to treat them but to raise them solely for slaughter is immoral. I don't see their logic. Either you decide that they are of nearly equal standing with humans, similar to PETA freaks; or you should not differentiate between breeding them for race vs breeding for consumption.

I don't see the difference. I don't have a problem with either industry.

Don't diss it till you've tried it.

I haven't, so I'm not dissing it. Horses have been proven to be one of the least intellignet domestic animals, pigs on the other hand are one of the most intelligent. Think about that when you're eating your sausage tomorrow. I know I wont be, I grew up a pork farmer's son and will always be a pork man.

Mmmm sausage!