Somebody took my pic going into an adult bookstore
 

I has turning into the parking lot, and this dude just took my pic. As I was leaving the place they had put up a sign that said they were with war-line, and they were taking peoples pics, to try and shut the place down. At first I was pissed, but then I figured that they were probably not well funded, so they wouldn't be publishing the pics in the newspaper or anything. So I guess it is no big deal. They still suck though.

Any thoughts on this whole phenomena?

Have you read this thread? Sounds like you might be able to contribute first-hand knowledge to it.

Also, here's the War-Line Busted Photos. Are you posted there yet?

This is interesting ... perhaps people should reciprocate and follow these jerk-offs to wherever they go ... take their picture .. and post in the newsgroups.

did you smile?

I see that being so worth destroying thier camera over.

Or at least getting them to write me, in paper and signed, saying they WILL NOT WHATSOEVER use these images in any public manor.

Else they will be sued for extreem amounts.

That or the camera... thier choice.

Isn't that slander/libel, i forget which is which, or deformation of character?

It isn't defamation of character, as they are not saying you are really doing anything wrong are they? You should have full rights to stop them using the photo though, much like that thing with Britney and GQ, they could only use her pics because she agreed to it.

I saw that video of the guy being sprayed on the news.. funny stuff. If I were the store owner though I would go rent a bunch of large spotlights and point them directly at the protestors until they gave up and left.

Woah. Major bummer. Is that even legal?

Isn't there a law against taking pictures of someone who isn't a public figure (without permission)? Don't newspapers need to make sure that they have permission from the picture takee before publishing?

i think it is wrong, but not alot you can do about it.. well you could always wait till one of them need to take a leak in the bushes or somthing and take pics of that. Just imagine a pic of one of them protesters with there penis out in the parking lot of an adult bookstore.. reminds me of pee wee herman :)

same thing happened to me dude, I got pissed and calledthe manager, and he took a hose and drenched the photographing phantom.

calmly write them a letter threatining legal action unless all images taken are given to you, as well as the negatives, if any thing is ever posted sue them. they do not have the right to post your image. in addition it will be posted to defame you, which is not there right under the 1st amendmant

Sounds like yet another organization with good goals (stopping rape and sexual assault) but in need of a revised plan of action. Do they honestly believe that taking pictures of people entering adult video and or book stores will reduce instances of rape? There are definitely better, more effective things they could be doing with their time.

i have a few questions about this, though i hope it doens't piss anyone off too bad.

Would you be pissed off if they took your picture just doing normal everyday things? (ie other than entering a porn store which may be considered taboo or something?)

The fact that it was at a porn store, is that what makes it so annoying?
if it was at a supermarket, would you be bothered by that?

I don't see how this can be libel if you were entering the establishment on your own accord? How is it falsely accusing you of anything?


I don't really know anything about laws about taking pictures, although i imagine with the amount of celebrities pictures you find in those woman weekly magazines (i see the adds, i don't read them :p ) that it's legal to take pictures of anyone?

If not, how can these magazines get away with it? unless laws are different in Australia?

Overall, why does it matter so much that people know you visit these places? I know it's probably not want you want your mum to find out about, but if you go there, then so be it? why be bothered about hiding it?

these are genuine quesitons which i hope someone can answer rationally for me. Thanks :)

That would make me very angry, you should of broke their camera, then they couldnt take pictures, also i would write to them thretening legal action, they will likely destroy your pic rather than face a lawsuit.

In my publishing experience these wingnuts could easily be sued and found in violation of an individual's right to privacy. It is almost "open and shut".

Here are a few references:
http://www.publaw.com/photo.html

It is perfectly legal to take a picture of someone in a public place.

I'd give them something to take a picture of. ;)

I'm with jbrooks. Any pictures taken and published need a signed waiver that they can print or publish them. Even in these day of home web publishing, you could easily and smartly win a court case. Its unbelievable that people have so little to do other than try to press their morals on the rest of us heathens. Freedom fo speech my ass. For fun, we should submit their website to some hacker organization so they go away soon.

they dont look well organized, they dont have very many pics either. like its that hard to find anyone that goes to nudie booths or porn stores

Getting mad about it just draws attention to them and serves their cause.

If you are in a public place, anybody can take your picture and post it wherever they want. Nothing to be done about it. It would be impossible to report the news if you had to ask each person that appeared in one of your photographs for permission to publish it.

Look guys, really... if you are a face in the crowd - fine, no lawsuit. But to be singled out and associated with a political cause, etc. etc. etc., This is an open and shut case. Anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong. I hope someone takes my pic and posts it on their site b/c I KNOW I would sue and win and collect.

I'm in publishing - print and web, etc. This really isn't that gray a subject. Any real publisher knows (or quickly finds out) about what is and isn't allowed. What these wierdo anto pron folks are doing on their website is not legal. The way the system works is you sue them and you win.

It is so NOT true that it is ok to print or post anyone's picture, etc. You are free to do it but then you can get sued and put in jail

I don't care where I am, when someone takes my picture without my permission I go crazy.

You're right that it's not defamation of character. It's also not libel or slander because to be libel or slander it first has to be untrue. You WERE going into the adult book store, so that takes care of that.

Further, you cannot stop them from doing whatever they want to with the photographs. They took your picture in public. Being in public leaves you with no expectation of privacy, and it allows them to record anything a normal person could see unaided.

Pose for the shit. If you are ok w/ going into the store who cares.

After viewing their website, the photos are just headshots with no detailed background or setting visible.

Pretty weak, as they could be headshots of anyone at any place, as they are just headshots without any setting visible.

A portion of their "mission statement."

Not sure I agree with their way of justifying how adult shops encourage rape. Sounds kind of extreme and unresearched to me. Unless they have statistics?

The site is against rape, sexual assault, and the like. Anyone who's picture is up on that site is theoretically, though not directly, being labelled as a 'potential rapist' because they like porn.

Heaven forbid someone like porn.

I wrote to the place and asked for a t-shirt. ;) They seem to be free... I told them I'm a stripper trying to get out of my job. ^_^

-+ Ivy +-

WHY DIDN'TYOU FLASH THEM

haha... :P thats pretty funny... wonder what there reply will be...:crazy:

If adult bookstores and titty bars cause rape, maybe we should shut down restaurants and grocery stores, since they cause obesity. Some people take there causes to the extreme.

here's my idea

you're walking out of a porn store, right?

so if they're trying to take your photo, open the copy of 'color climax' you've bought to the dirtiest page possible and grin whilst holding it next to your face

Did anyone else notice that the pictures they had up were mostly of black men?

There were two white guys amid swarms of blacks.

It looks to me like one or two right wing, racist, religious fanatics trying to make a statement. They have not done any research to back up what they are saying, nor is their method of saying it effective. They probably have lots of repressed emotions and psychological damage from childhood.

I would say I feel sorry for them, except for the blatant racism and bigotry.

Oh, and the obviously edited picture of the guy holding a sign that says advertises for War Line. If you're going to fake being at a protest, at least fake it well.

Meh.

I can see the deal with this being demeaning, as they are saying that porn causes rape, but what is the big deal with having your picture taken randomally? If I were just walking down the street and someone snapped my picture, I'd be like, wtf, for about .23 seconds then live my life. Maybe they will photoshop it or something and I'd get a laugh out of it later.

Mooseman, the guy that took a picture of me was black, so I would doubt its a racist organization.

After seeing the website I am no longer upset about it. It looked pretty rinkydink, just as I had suspected. My picture isn't up there, kind of a shame, I might have shared it with ya'll

In my city a few years ago, they had a big prostitution sting. It was the plan of the police department to put the pictures of the johns up on display on BILLBOARDS. Thankfully they didn't go through with it. I can imagine the people who thought of that idea probably have superiority issues.

It would be funny to get confronted by a photographer leaving an adult bookstore, and then try to cover up your face with a strand of anal beads.

That sucks. Everyone should be able to buy porn in anonymous peace.

Shouldn't that be illegal? Someone views that business as immoral, therefore they being doing something, with all their moral authority, that potentially will have a detrimental effect upon that's business's ability to sustain itself.

people shouldnt be allowed to take your pic like that without permission

What's friggen retarded is that they're trying to stop rape....hehe, letting off the "tension" would actually discourage rape...so they're just retarded imo.

Re: Somebody took my pic going into an adult bookstore
 

Do you visit Two Keys often?

I may have to send them my picture. "Hi, My name is Mark and I like boobies"

LOL, people should... send them your own picture and tell them you like porn.

yeah thats pretty weak. Theres a phone number on that war line website. if it were me I would call and find out more about the org and see what legal action could be taken if any.

You can do something about it if you're publicizing, selling it or somehow making profit off of it. You need a model release to do that kind of stuff. He can probably take them to court if he wanted, but then you have to ask yourself this: a) do they have the money to pay you compensation if they lose? b) do you have the money to afford a decent lawyer who will win the case? c) do you have the time to care about something that so far has not affected your life in any way?

That's pretty funny. If you are ashamed of going in there, or are going in there illegally, then you have something to worry about. Otherwise, enjoy the 15 minutes of fame!!!

Where I don't agree to their tactics from what I remember of my Law and Media classes as long as you are in public they can take your picture and publish them and you have no recourse. Having said that, don't give them the satisfaction of intimidating you into stopping you from doing what you want to do.
If it is any consolation to you the leader of such a group in Philadelphia was just arrested for soliciting a prostitute.

o thats to funny

As far as someone taking the picture and publishing it, there are no real laws setup to protect people. Now if i'm shooting/taking pics of a model and she said I could not use the pics it would be different solely because I would most likely be using them to make a profit for my photography business which at the current time doesn't exist because I do not have a decent camera of my own since it was stolen.

But anywho... I would kick the people in the knee cap and steal their camera or I would make them open their camera to expose their film so they didn't have a picture of me because they were protesters.

But as I said... becasue of tourism and things like that unless it is copywrighted or being used for profit there is nothing that can really be done to protect someone from having their pics taken like that other than making the photog expose their film.

As far as I've studied anyway.

Thats pretty wild. Seems like the owners of that site are a bit repressive about their sexuality.

I would try and persue legal action, thats just bullshit

look up the phone number on google and looky what pops up.... http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...q=502+968+2012

A bunch of people on some other boards found out about these guys. It turns out it is just one or two guys running the website out of a trailer park, and a bunch of people taking pictures for them. The guys is apparently a real idiot with a hick accent as they found out when they called him. I wouldn't worry.
Oh by the way, if your going to call him and complain, be sure to make jokes about how war against rape let it never end could mean that rape never ends etc, a bunch of jokes and debate about their name reportedly really pisses the guy off.

ahh nothing like people trying to shut down a business that provides thousands of jobs and makes billions of dollars a year just because they are ashamed of the fact that its natural to enjoy anything that has to do with sex. Some attractive girl is happy to pose in some magazine nude and well paid to do it. so of corse its a bad thing. its not like they are forced into that line of work. if someone took my picture walking into a adult bookstore i would walk up to them and ask they send me a copy. im a proud supporter of the adult entertainment industry. =)

I have even seen a website full of pictures of people and their dogs. The website was complaining about people letting their dogs crap in the park. It was actually pretty funny!!

I don't know how defamation works in the US, but in Blighty, you're safe to take pictures of whatever the fuck you please as long as it's on public property. So say I stood on the street by the car park near a porn shop and snapped you as you went in, you couldn't stop me taking the picture, you couldn't stop me publishing it.

Say you were on trial for murder and the local paper turns up to grab your picture as you come out of court. There's nothing, legally, you can do to stop them, and if you try and smash the camera or something, well you'll be up on a criminal damage charge as well. All you can do is try and cover your face.

I would have kicked his ass and claimed I thought his camera was a gun, so it was self defense.

Hahaha, that's pretty funny. I always carry a camera. I'd be the first one to take a picture of their car with flat tires... let me catch those fucker taking photos of me without my permission. Not that I would care who saw me go into a adult place, cause I don't. But the tactics they are using stink.

WAR - L.I.N.E, you can kiss my lilly white ass!

I would be kind of annoyed too, if it had been me.
Then again, it's not too much to worry about. There's nothing wrong or shameful about entering an adult bookstore, and it should only be detrimental if you're a high-profile person or celebrity.
If you're worried about where the image might end up, I would suggest writing to the organisation responsible and requesting that all copies be sent to you or destroyed, along with the negative, and advise them that you do not give permission for your image to be used in any media whatsoever.

In the U.S. anyone can take any photo whenever they want. The "taking" of the photo is not the issue. The "publishing" of it is the issue, and the web is a form of publishing. The way it works here is that if you put up a photo of an individual, who is the prime focus of the pic (not just a face in the crowd) and the person is not arguable a "public figure", and you associate the photo with any cause, commercial enterprise, etc. then you can be sued and you will probably lose. I'm not guessing here. This is not idle speculation. This is how it works here.

In response to that thing about the guy in Philadelphia.... he used to hang out on my college campus and scream at every minority about how they were going to hell and talk about how vile and disgusting we all were for thinking about breasts and penises.... then he got arrested for asking a 13-year-old boy if he could give him a blow job.... figures.


I would keep a camera with me next time I went to the store. If they take your picture, just back up a few feet and take theirs with the adult bookstore's sign in full view.

ther must be something illegal about this.