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You have the right to remain silent
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Personally, I think it's a stupid case and don't see how it could be a benefit to a defendant who has to speak in order to remain silent. |
And they say liberals are the activist judges!
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Remaining silent and invoking Miranda are not always the same thing.
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I don't see much of a problem. It's not that hard to say "I would like to remain silent" or something similar. This should cut down miscommunication, as you are specifically saying you want to invoke your rights, instead of just being silent which could mean anything.
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I don't understand this decision. For one, if someone asks me a question, they can't make me answer it. Thus my right is being executed through my silence. It seems like if I did not have this right, the police could engage in activities to force me to speak (torture?) I don't understand why SCOTUS took this case, or why they ruled this way. How does this play out in court?
"Your honor, we gave him his miranda and we started questioning him. He just sat there and didn't answer our questions. We DEMAND that you make him answer us or make him tell us that he isn't going to answer us." Gee, that's a great use of the limited resources within the judicial system. |
Repeat after me, folks:
I do not wish to make any statement at this time. I do not consent to any search of my person, property, papers or effects. I wish to speak to an attorney immediately. Repeat as necessary. SAY NOTHING ELSE. This entire ruling stinks, and here's what it smells like: an attempt to force defendants into uttering the jury-prejudicing words "incriminate myself" or "self-incrimination" or some permutation thereof, ie "Under my 5th Amendment rights, I refuse to answer the Prosecutor's question on the grounds of self-incrimination." While this phrasing does not admit specific guilt, it -does- acknowledge that the answer would be incriminating and thereby requires the defendant to admit general guilt while being "allowed" to not confirm specific guilt. Any Juror hearing -that-, especially with all the "help" jurors get in making up their minds these days (ie Judge's "instructions") will all but default to conviction. |
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Ideally, I also agree that it is best to state unambiguously that you are invoking your right to silence, and that you consent neither to questions nor searches, and that you demand a lawyer. But I can envision plenty of situations where an arrestee either is incapable of such a statement, or is unaware of how the system works, or presumes that no such statement is needed, having been read their Miranda rights. If it is fair to say that people should try to be a little more proactive about stating their intent to invoke their rights, then it is also more than fair to say police should also be much more cautious about potentially illegal questioning. The SCOTUS should never have taken this case. And having done so, their ruling here is awful: Justice Sotomayor is entirely correct in that it turns Miranda on its head. But what did we expect? The court has moved sharply rightward, and the right wing only believes in privacy rights for people who can pay for them. |
I've been arrested more than once and never been read my rights. I've been called a respondent, but not required to. I've spoken & been told to shut up. I've capriciously signed documents in blood from the wounds caused by struggling against the 'cuffs. Overall, the authorities have been very nice to me, but the inconsistent way in which policies are enforced strikes me as strange. Does invoking your right to remain silent abrogate it? I'll probably never demand it...
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I think someone should have to respond to Miranda if only to acknowledge their understanding of their rights. If you talk after that acknowledgment then you are pretty much waiving your right to remain silent.
Either lay it all out or get a lawyer and keep your mouth shut, there really shouldn't be a middle ground here. |
Well, in the case in question, apparently the guy was interrogated for three hours, remaining silent, and finally 'broke' and confessed to the crime. I guess what bothers me here is that, upon being told that he has the right to remain silent, a suspect can then do exactly that and be interrogated for three hours solid. It seems to weigh things in favor of those who educate themselves and know the 'magic words' that will make the cops leave them alone. On the other hand, simply acknowledging that you are exercising your right to remain silent is nice, explicit, and clean.
What if you do exercise your miranda rights, are the cops allowed to then interrogate you for three hours? What if you do the miranda thing, get interrogated for 3 hours, and finally say "Oh, fine, whatever, I did it, just leave me alone!"? Can that be used against you? |
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As Dunedan says, an unequivocal statement that you wish not to answer questions takes care of that, and should be one of your first actions. It is somewhat similar to your right to a lawyer. The police need not assume you wish a lawyer until you communicate that to them explicitly. So forcing them to assume you wish to remain silent without saying so is a bit tough. Don't leave anything up to the police... make it known explicitly. As for the 5th Amendment, you should never refer to wishing not to self-incriminate. You should simply state you wish to assert your 5th Amendment rights. Period. I also highly recommend the following video series (I've only posted the first part)... they are a wonderful discussion of WHY the 5th Amendment is so important (we Canadians do not enjoy that protection): |
this ruling is actually crap. there have been a few other cases before this one where suspects have actually asserted their right to an attorney or to remain silent, only to have to continue enduring police interrogation and then be convicted on their utterances after the fact.
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Regardless of how you feel about the ruling, it is good practice to just be up front about exercising your right to ___ whether it is the attorney or silence or anything else. if you just sit there, how are they to know you want to invoke your right to anything? I don't see how this is inherently trampling on anyone's rights. Anyone who is aware of the right should have the mental fortitude to say something like what dunedan said, or at least something as simple as "I have the right to remain silent and I'm going to use it." or "I dont' have to talk to you because of my constitutional rights" etc. If anything this gives a clear directive, vs having to sit there and wait for x amount of time while the alleged perpetrator excercise their right to silence.
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We all have the right, some just don't have the ability
We all have the right, some just don't have the ability
I think she writes well on this. What about someone who doesn't speak english? Just the fact that they sit there quietly affords them the same protections as the individual who invokes their right to remain silent by the same action of being silent. Personally, I think it's a stupid case and don't see how it could be a benefit to a defendant who has to speak in order to remain silent.[/quote] |
If you're arrested, simply shut your mouth and keep it closed until you're alone with your attorney. Do not evoke anything, do not repeat anything; stay totally, 100% silent. The importance of your silence cannot be overstated.
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It varies from jurisdiction, but there are places where the last line in the Miranda warning is such...
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This particular case though has all the hallmarks of legal wrigling about. As someone already said - if you want to be quiet, just be quiet. |
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