WTF.....Women.......WTF
 

TO ALL LEVEL-HEADED CHAPS:
Recently I was spying on the ladies board and i discovered that they are all just corn crazy.....I mean from the things they compare to the stuff they discuss, it is plain to see that most of the women are out to ruin us..................So I wanted to start this WOMENS RANT THREAD.....if you read this just please leave one thing that bothers you about women ......................

...............................thanks


P.S. Oh and BTW ...to all the women that read this go back to your man-hater section, without leaving yor two cents.

Someone hasn't been laid in a while, I'm guessing?

It's how people talk. They are very open in there, and that's a good thing. I don't really understand the need for the hostility in the post though. *shrug*

What bothers me about women: the games. I'm very straight forward about things. If something is wrong and you want to talk about it, say something. Don't make me guess. I read most women's signs like Stevie Wonder reads pitching signs. Tell me, otherwise, I'm not going to know.

steph you couldnt just follow directions could you......

goat, anyone is allowed to reply to threads in the general discussion forum. Dont be rude.

well than halx ....not to be rude but why dont you create a place where only guys are allowed

otherwise you are just being sexist

not a good idea to be calling halx out but... it's a good idea

yeah, please refer to the suggestion forum for point and counterpoint

A few comments. First for Halx. 1) I find it ironic that you're admonishing goaterizer for being rude while presenting an avatar of yourself jerking off. While rude is not the exact adjective I'd use to describe your avatar, it's in the ball park. Another case of eye of the beholder I suppose. 2) goaterizer appears to have issues and wrote an angry thread starter, but all he did was ask that the women refrain from participating in this one thread. It's a much more subdued request than the marching orders we men receive in the Ladies' Lounge. And then when the second post he got in response was from a woman, he expressed frustration with that. I don't see rude there. I understand that under the rules a woman is free to respond to this thread. They are also free to honor his request and see how the men deal with this topic. Just a difference of opinion.

goaterizer - Women are a mystery to men and become more so as the years go by. Accept it. They're not all the same. And they're hardly represented fully in the Ladies' Lounge. Like I said to Halx, sounds like you've got more on your mind than just what you read in the Lounge. Concentrate on what is beautiful in women and what excites and delights you, and you'll get a much better response from them.

Eventhough women know we do not like subtle hints they still use them. Thats what peaves me. That and what spectre said about games.

I don't like how they manipulate us thru crying and acting. They take advantage of our oedipus complex. Men don't do that.

But, as with most things about women, it does have it's charm.

The games get to me too. My last girlfriend made a big thing of getting me to promise to talk when I was annoyed about something - which I agreed to readily because it's an easy promise to keep. She didn't practice what she preached though. As an example, one evening when we were out for dinner, I did something wrong early on - I still have no idea what! - and got the cold shoulder for the rest of the evening. Needless to say, that relationship did not last long.

YEAH... women DO play mind games... and they ACT innocent and playful, when they are actually conniving and decietfull! Don't believe me? Watch a woman who doesn't like another woman... yikes....

wowie. i'm pulling out my ten foot pole here.

goat... first off, i like your nick. i dunno why, but it just seems kinda cool. onto the subject.

<i><b>NOTICE</b>: this is a broad generalization and is no way shape or form meant to specify any one person or group of persons beyond the very general groupings specifically laid out, i.e. men and women</i>

women are a different breed than us men. they're wired completely different. they have different needs, wants, desires, likes, dislikes, and general motivations than guys. they go about their business differnetly and expect things to be done differently.

there is, has been, and always will be a great and unfathomable rift between the minds of men and women. accept that and you will be a happy person. fight and try to evade it and you will find yourself in endless frustration.

goat: we have a women's section for a very special reason. we love our ladies. do you know how hard it is to get and keep a good strong female user base in this internet? do you know how easy it would be for so many women to be completely alienated by the massive and constant influx of crazed horndogs who are out to get their rocks off at anyone's expense? we value ALL of our users, but we have a special affinity for our ladies. it's wonderful that we've had so many bless us with their presence here on the boards, but they need their own place. think of this as the african plains. there are wildlife preserves to protect valued animals from hunting and the terrible things that happen in the wild. any of our ladies will tell you just how that feels being female on the internet. they have a special place here where they can be protected from all of those assholes on the web, a place to make their own. we gave them that, we enforce that, and we will always make sure they have that. acccept it.

so why don't we have a "men's only" forum? because we're really not that deep. we don't need some fucking boy's room where we can all scratch our balls and brag about the chick we banged last night without being chided by the ladies. we are in no danger from predators. we don't need to be protected. accept it.

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now i'd be a real asshole if i didn't respond to the original intent of this thread.

i HATE "nothing." whatcha thinking about? "nothing" what's wrong? "nothing" so many women complain about men being shallow and uncaring, but it seems liek so many times when we do send out that probe to see what's going on it's blocked by a thirteen foot thick wall of cement "nothing"

c'mon... have a fucking oprah moment and share your damn feelings. let us know EXACTLY what is going on in that pretty little head of yours. we're all growed up, we can take it like big boys. hell, there's even an off chance we might even be able to help.

that's my mod moment and that's my bitch. take it as you will.

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sorry, couldn't resist...and since this is in General, i have every right...

is just the 'man-hater' comment..that is one of my biggest peeves...

i do not like or appreciate the assumption that the Ladies Lounge is a 'man-hater' section. ...

but that gets me to wonder....

is this just your assumption because you think that any group of women are just going to be all bitchy and anti-men...

or, is there some substance backing up your accusation?

bleh.

man-hating is just an awful concept/idea/stereotype...drives me insane.

is this going on in the ladies lounge and i'm not just seeing it?

ok, i've seen a couple things, threads, that bothered me enough to say something...and some i've just protested by not acknowledging them...(usually the jokes about men. i rarely find them funny)....

bah. i cound rant forever on this, but it would be mostly babble.

whatever.

in my opinion, in general, men are no good.
If I were a woman, I'd be a lesbian feminist.

Also IMO, if women really knew what men were all about, they'd all be lesbian feminists.

Personally, I appreciate any tolerance we get from them at all because, as a group, we don't deserve it.

Hey, there's no point getting upset over anything in the Ladies Lounge. I myself find it an interesting place to lurk in.
I haven't been offended yet, but I guess I'm kind of used to the style. Have quite a few close female friends.

But if you really get grumpy from reading it, see it this way:
Free Recon. Yeah, you heard me. Those evuuul women and their evuuul plans, right there in front of you. They are giving you a totally new meaning to the phrase "know your enemy". Don't complain. Take it all in! Learn!

Or just go there for a new point of view.

I suppose that the only thing I could see as an improvement, would be some type of section of the Ladies Lounge where men can post questions, and only women can reply. I think some guys would appreciate it, and perhaps the women on the board would find it interesting to see what the men really wants to know.

Don't pay attention to that comment. He's only saying that to women angry, just as women having their own forum seems to be making him angry. It's nothing but childish revenge. I'm afraid you'll just have to ignore these jealous guys. Rest assured they're only a minorty, and only speak for themselves.

I think goaterizer actually, inadvertantly, has proven why the ladies lounge is not a luxury, by behaving in the way he has.

Oh, and by the way, I never ever read the ladies lounge. I don't go there. I respect their privacy. TFP is so tilted toward the male point of view, I appreciate totally the fact that there are women here at all. We have great lady mods who take care of things there and I don't feel I need to monitor the LL. And personally, I have no curiosity about what occurs there.

The only thing I don't understand are the frequent gripes about the LL we get from men. Well, to be truthful, I do understand it. It's sad.

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I couldn't agree more. Women think they're trying to do us a favor by trying to change everything they hate about us. All that shows me is they all hate men. They can't just let their man be himself. It's a challenge to all women to make you into some guy that they would like you to be. I think it's complete bullcrap. Which is exactly why I never keep a girlie for too long. If you're trying to change every fucking little thing that you hate about me that just proves that you really can't stand me. So why would I waste my time and let some chic that I'm fucking run my life and ruin me? Not gonna happen. I have never tried to change a girl that I dated and I never will. I'll never keep a girlfriend for very long until I find a chic that isn't a man hater. I'm perfectly fine with that too. I never even look in the Ladies Lounge cause there are things that they say that drive me insane. Actually, what drives me insane is that I can't respond to things they say about men. So I just stay the hell out.

I disagree. Women are doing themselves a favor by telling us the things that annoy them about men. And we should respect them enough to at least listen to what they say, and not do away with it by going: "women hate me, so they try to change me for their own perverted pleasures". If you still disagree then, you have something to talk about.

I'm not denying that they are sometimes wrong, and they can definately exagerate up there with the best of them, but to refuse to change will ultimately make it impossible to live together with a woman. There are differences between men and women, and it's both parties responsability to bridge the gap.

*shrug* Guess I've been lucky.

Point one:
The Ladies Lounge is for females, who represent less than 1% of the TFP.
They need a place where they won't be overwhelmed by the testosterone.
Deal with it.
Period.

Point two:
My beef with women can be applied to EITHER sex.

* Back up your bullshit.
* Mean what you say.
* Don't just throw out words, and then do something else.

Well, I'm not attracted to men, I'm attracted to women
I have a certain detachment from men, with women there is always that edge.
So I have to deal with their words & actions on a different level than I would with men.

But the principle applies to BOTH sexes.

Oh, BTW this is why you are pissed off at them.

Not because they are different.
Not because they do things differently.

But because YOU treat them different.
Because YOU are attracted to them.

Thus their words & actions have power over you.
And believe it or not,
they are in the same boat.

Treat them as you would anyone else.
Alter your interactions as you would for any individual.

But here's the tricky part, you WANT them to like you.
So you are always going to have that to deal with.
And this wouldn't matter if you were man or woman, straight or gay or bi.
You are ALWAYS going to have frustrations with those you desire.

And even though I'm telling you this, I go through the SAME bullshit.
We are all human.

Such is life.

Look, chaps, allow me to quote a genious:

All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplusage, excrescence, adornment, luxury, or folly which can-- and must-- be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a "perfect society" on any foundation other than "Women and children first!" is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless, starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly-- and no doubt will keep on trying.

This quote, as many other things I have quoted in the TFP, is from the Excerpts from the Notebooks of Lazarus Long ("Time Enogh for Love" by Robert A. Heinlein)

What the man is trying to say is that women-- and children, but we'll discuss only women here-- are the most important part of of any society, period. If you try to base a society around "men first" or some other such ideal, like the man said, this society becomes genocidal, i.e. it is doomed to fail.

So then what the hell is my point? My point is that we as men need to just suck it in when a woman hurts us or pokes fun at us or otherwise offends us, because... thats just how things work. And if you don't like this, then maybe you're not really a man... you're just another one of those starry-eyed idealists.

To address the original point of this thread, the only thing I find wrong with women is that they're so damn beautiful that I can't stand it sometimes, but then again thats a good thing :D

I hate the fact that they are not sleeping with me....

that's what i'm thinking also

Corn Crazy? LOL!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this has been a pretty funny read.

I get the impression that he would like to have a He-Man-Women-Haters-Club...

As far as a rant. I don't have much to rant about, because I try to communicate with my wife (the only real woman that matters in my daily life) and I request that she does the same. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Period.

Sometimes I fall into the same traps that women do.. why? because I'm a human being. Sometimes we don't want to say something or are afraid of the response.

For me it's simple, give the ladies lounge a rest, I read it when I have read all the other THOUSAND threads.

I'm afraid to go into the ladies' lounge. Is it really as bad as people make it sound?

no, at least i don't think so.

is a lot of stuff about women's sexuality and stuff, at least that's what i tend to notice most.

O.K. i suppose it is time to justify the original post now.........

last night, way past my usual bed time, i crept into the ladies lounge.....and if the stuff i found in there is any clue as to the majority of women in world, id rather be a celabate hermit, than ever talk to on again........im not a woman hater........im just dissappointed to know that most women are like that, when based on all my past female friends i had a pretty good outlook on them



plus i was cranky because i was tired



so heres my apology........ Sorry.


i still think you moderators should create "the bachlor pad" or somthing to that effect, so there is once again is a balance of power on tfp.

And to that one percent comment ..........the ideas(loosley) and topics in that ladies lounge are read by more than just the ladies, so there mindless babbling reaches more than just that one percent

He-Man-Women-Haters-Club...


nice

1) if you find my avatar rude, you're on the wrong board. This is a forum based upon, of all things, the acceptance of sexuality. I've seen other naked bodies in avatars, some of a user's own, and no complaints.
2) we have a rule that pretty much says that you cannot exclude anyone from participating in your thread. When a woman DID post, he reacted in a foul way. Now, I don't know if you noticed, but she was a brand new member. I don't want a little comment like that to turn her off of this board. I am far more interested in getting a new witty female posting on the board, than an easily frustrated male. We have enough of those all ready.

Ha ha,..That's very funny.But then you'd have to grow a moustache and teach womens studies in some university:lol:

Seriously though,I think women are great.I've had a problem with a few of them,but rather than blaming them,I blame myself for the rare moments of poor judgement on my part.Bet you'd never thought a man would say that.

I dislike the way I constantly find myself seeking their approval, as much as I'd rather pretend I don't.

Otherwise, the complaints towards typical girls are the same I'd direct towards typical guys. Being unreliable, untrustworthy, and uninteresting. The solution is to find someone who isn't typical.

This thread is funny and sad at the same time.

First, several issues have been mixed up that should be dealt with separately, all dosed liberally with indignation at the "unfairness" of life, including:

-a separate ladies lounge

-percieved offence at a naked 'Male' avatar w/o similar offense at naked 'Female' avatars

-general anger at women


Since most of these have been addressed by Hal and some other mod's, I don't need to add except to say that I agree 100% with them. I will reiterate that since men have free run over this board, I fully support a woman's only area.

And I'm sorry Goat, but I have no sympathy for you.

Maybe you can make the "He-man-woman-haters-club" website and find solace there.

well, this has been the source of some amusement... first I'd like to say that I think the Ladies area is great, I don't personally go there because I'd find it too tempting to post, and REALLY don't wanna read stuff there anyhow... I have to agree with the hatred of the 'Nothing' answer, and add another thing: The need for EVERYTHING to be perfect before you can have company over, I'm sure most, if not all of the guys here have seen this before. It stresses them out to the point they stress you out, and then everything goes to hell...

Imma go back to what im doing now, be well.

BTW it's totally safe to go in there,
but if you're a man...be QUIET.
if you have an intelligent piece of info to enhance the conversation,
PM a lady mod and request if your info, which you think might be helpful, could be added by THEM.

They don't mind us reading, but the discussions allow the ladies to communicate
WITHOUT the loads of men hijacking and interupting their points.

Just as we did with this thread.

They sometimes have different perspectives,
different life experiences & issues than men
and someplace to rant themselves.

Men are the majority in the rest of the board,
and as you can see mostly men have contradicted you here,
not the ladies you were concerned with.

Let them have that area, don't be afraid.
They won't bite...
well, most of the time.;)

Y'know, its funny to read all these posts..


I have been a while back to TFP , (like a month) but its the same ol' shit... I ain't gonna stop being here because of it, but jaysus, calm down... The Ladies Lounge is just that 4 the ladies... You don't like.. stay the fuck out.

We are in the majority (being male) and we do in some small way rule it (check the post count in the boobies thread).

The ladies that are here should be encouraged to participate and I for one would be happy that they engaged me in some discusion (sp).

I worry that a MAN who doesn't deal with it will always be with a man..... ~I personally like women too much to let that happen...

PS: for some others, all women aren't like that.. You know the cock is as powerful as the pussy if not more so, cause we've had more practice!

*backs away slowly*

why is there no "mens lounge"?

I couldn't agree more, spectre.

I think I'm in the middle of one of these games right now but I have no clue how I got there or how to get out. :(

Let me answer this with a quote... and then I'll add my own comment...

Now, to add to it...
You wouldn't read the posts in a "men's forum" anyway. And you just proved it, since you didn't read this thread. That answer was in the 14th post from the top including the original post. If you failed to read the answer to your question, why would you read a forum dedicated to testosterone?

Women
I love the way they walk.
I love the way they talk.
I love the way they smell....
and I would do just about anything to get the "fair ones" attention.

But as One grows older, One will see
that they don't act like you and me.

And they never will.

Know THIS.
and you will be fine.

Everything is the "Men's Lounge"

Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?

"I have a cock"

"Me too!"

"I don't understand women"

"Me either"

((Besides what kind of useless shit would we come up with on our own?)) -rockzilla



1)why won't she agree to a threesome?
2)how do I tell her that her snoring bugs the shit outta me?
3)is it wrong for me to get hard when her mom comes over?
4)her cooking would make a hyena starve.
5)how can I bring up the "Concept" of a three-way without her kooking?

I don't know dude, The list goes on.
:)

Yeah, well.....sometimes I fart real,real loud....

Oh Hell YEAH. Farts...we forgot all about FARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can belch the whole alphabet

well im not gonna get into the silly argument.

i'll just leave my 1.5 cents about women: They are just difficult!

wow.. I didn't see this thead until I saw a post about it in the ladies forum..> Which i personally Love. Why? Damn, its useful to learn from. The drinking Pineapple Juice tip was good in and of itself!:) its great as we can learn about them, not just their personality, but ABOUT them.

As for them being Men-Haters? You need help.. BAD. So what if they make a joke or two? We're CONSTANTLY making jokes. If I make a joke about a stereotypical guy... or any type of guy for that matter, will I be a man hater? As this is as you seem to propose. Let them make jokes, Jokes are funny, SO LAUGH AT THEM!!!! From what i've read on there, they most definately aren't man haters. Heck, reading that many women don't care for penis size was amazing.. Among the guy community, it seems that if yours isn't that big, you're gonna have a bad sex life... Yet the ladies have proved us wrong. So think about that.

As for a men's forum? WHY!!!!!???? We can talk about babes in the titty board... which is mostly guys posts anyways. We can talk about our shit with a woman's presence as they'll just stray away from our stuff. What good would it do? honestly, I don't understand, Feel free to PM me if you care to not be flamed, but I don't see how it would be helpful. If I wanna rant about women.. I will.... IN MY JOURNAL! If I have a question... I'll WANT a woman to reply to help me out! If its a guy thing, they'll be lost anyways. I'd hate to see a forum pop up where guys just talk about who they banged or want to. That shit just doesn't work for me, and thus it would be just a useless section i'd ignore... Hal isn't being sexist, he's just being smart.

As people have said, Women can be hard to find on here, and a womans section where only women can post is one helluva offer to get them in the community. I don't see the use of the men's forum.. I believe someone asked about this before, and i remember the replies of.. "Because we WANT the women with us!" with that... 'nuff said, or so I would hope to think.

Oh one last point. Generally speaking, women are known to bond by talking, guys aren't. Thus we wouldn't really bond there, but for women, its a great thing. But see, if they were to bond in the presence of men.. then explain to me why in real life (at least while you're in school) there's that term of "The Backroom" where girls tell each other everything, guys don't have that, cause we don't care who hears what if we're gonna say it. The ladies lounge is kinda like their backroom, sure we can read it, but they don't have to worry about immature guys jumping in and saying, "OOOOH YOU LIKE THAT TOY!! I'd Love to get In on you doing that!" I mean honestly, that won't help a thing, but I know someone would do something similar if they could. I'm not saying all guys are like this, but someone would be bound to make that mistake, and that would make me want to hit them.

Yeah they are out to get us... but we're out to get them. (mind you obviously I was speaking in a positive tone about it) Oh and uh, We play games too. Ever notice how a guy will just piss a girl off for the fun of it? Yeah that sure gets to them, and we do it on purpose. So let 'em rant about it, it makes them happier, which in turn makes me happy :)

Later Ladies ;) (oh and um.. you too Goat........ ........................)

--Gak

too many pussies here.it takes two to tango.....

they(women)have their little quirks that we (men)may not like.

guess what?it goes the same way with them about our quirks.

i never try to change them,just try to fit in and figure 'em out.

it's like a challenge to figure my wife out any given day.good,bad.ugly....whatever but......i'm nothin' special either.men and women gotta live together so they better figure each others shit out fast.

i've got 15 years with mine and they haven't all been pretty,but life is a big 'ol game and i'm up to learnin'.

*stays the fuck outta the ladies lounge*

I've lurked in the Ladie's Lounge a couple of times and I found it quite interesting.
I mean, there's so much stuff to learn... And even thought the may sound like man-haters from time to time, i dont really mind.

Speaking of which, Halx, how did you even take that picture?

To laugh at my gender.

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I am sorry but that really made me laugh.
The point of the LL is really not to frustrate men. Even though all of you seem to think so.
You all know how boring this world would be without a woman's point of view. It is funny that you find us so frustrating yet spend most of your time thinking about us.;)

We love you too.

Well, when I first read this thread I wanted to say what my feeling were on the subject.... but I didn't, I didn't want to upset any of the fine women we here at the TFP, but Damn! I can't but agree that the women of today are twisted..... You know, I'm a nice guy.... and that in itself is a curse, A terribile curse that in another time would be a fine thing....... but today being a 'nice guy' just means you're a fool. Being 'nice' means one of two things to women...... either you're a freak or somethings wrong with you....... I put the blame on women for one reason, The simple fact that women have the power to choose who they want, and even if that person turns out to be a asshole it doesen't matter...... "I can change him" is the excuse...... or "But I love him" When it comes down to it, women have screwed everything up by allowing the asshole men to be their first choice.......

Emagine this....... Every women in the Intercontinental United States says "fuck You" to the assholes, all of a sudden all of the assholes couldn't get laid no matter what...... guess what would happen? Either the assholes would learn not to be assholes ...... or the "nice guys" would for for once in their lives find girls that they have been looking for all thier lives...... And maybe, just maybe...... those women would learn that the "nice guy" is the type of guy that would love and spoil them....... never cheat on them, and be there for them no matter what............

But I'm just a just a "nice guy" which means I've lost even before I've started...... I'm the Loser that has everything except what he really wants........ and the reason I'm on this damn computer most of my fucked up lonley life.


/Forgive me T.F.P. I'm drunk, and this thread just hits me in a weak spot..... :([

imo men and women want the same things, except women take the more convoluted route in achieving them. ;)

Signs are pretty easy to spot too, if you know what you are looking for and you are paying attention.

But as long as you believe that woman are impossible to understand, they always will be :)

Why can't women just be simple creatures like us?? I mean we are driven by one basic need, right?? Sex....:-)

Oh, wait they are led by one basic need...they want someone to say those 3 little words they long to hear....

Any one know those three words??


I'll tell you....


"I have money!!" :-)


(Sorry, ladies...but you know it's true at least for some of you...)

*LOL*... ART... that is funny as hell... thank you for the smile...

i have to say, that while reading this thread i've felt pretty sad and generally disappointed/surprised by the hostility i felt from some of the posters toward women in general.

what is so ironic to me... is how the board can be FLOODED with pictures on the titty board and the like, with literally thousands of comments like "Wow, what a hottie, gotta LOVE that!"

... only to be followed up with comments here like "...

"it is plain to see that most of the women are out to ruin us"... and
I couldn't agree more... Which is exactly why I never keep a girlie for too long. So why would I waste my time and let some chic that I'm fucking run my life and ruin me?

there are many men out here that are awesome individuals... whose posts and opinions i look forward to reading...
but it's comments like the above mentioned that re-affirms the belief that the majority of men don't really want to know women... they only want us for what we can do for them... then we are expendable and easily discarded. sad.

THANK YOU... to you guys... and you know who you are... who continue to stand up for us Ladies and continue to make us feel welcome... :icare:

You're a fine one to talk.

I don't think so. It's a good place to do homework, study the current version of female thinking (*till the next Beta release is out and dissiminated :)*), and to learn things that I never knew before.

Is it just me or does it seem that most of the people in this thread view men as shallow blabbering testosterone filled horn dogs that sit around and scratch…

Personally, I’m surprised. For another guy to say that we aren’t that deep is just a sad generalization and it shows how we think of ourselves. Yes, we have our moments and our quirks but so does everyone including women. I enjoy watching sports, talking about the “chick” I saw last night and scratching my balls just as much as the next guy. However, to say that’s all we do is degrading to ourselves; let’s give ourselves more credit here guys. Also, I’m not pushing for a men’s only forum because we don’t need it, we have the other boards. But to say if we had a “men’s lounge” that it would be filled with just crappy threads because we’re shallow is for lack of a better word, stupid. Look at the posts of the guys all across the forum from General Discussion to Titled Politics to Tilted Literature to Titled Artwork and etc. Men aren’t just testosterone filled braggarts that put all our focus into sex. We’re artists, poets, inventors, writers, lawyers, doctors and more.

Entering this thread I expected to see, well I don’t know what I expected to se after reading the title, but I didn’t expect to male or female bashing. (Okay, maybe a little female bashing…)

Goaterizer had a rough time starting his thread. He didn’t express himself in words as well as he could have. That’s no reason to say he’s sex deprived. Sex isn’t the wonder drug that makes men think clearer people. And it most certainly doesn’t make men talk about women in a "positive only light" whenever we “get some”. This thread was a rant after all.

Anyway, my problem with women has already mentioned by a few people. It’s once again the games (Yes, men play games too). Also, I don’t like the fact that some females ask me to express myself more and talk to them when they themselves won’t do the same.

I'm not one pushing for a men's lounge, but if there was truly a desire for one, then here are some sample topics on what I'd like to see in it:

Dressing, how do you make the most of your clothing from casual to dress.

Shoes, No you cannot just wear your sneakers to the wedding.

Class, no not ditching them, how to have some.

Men's health related issues from testicular cancer to prostate cancer.

How men show emotions, yes, they have more than just 3.

Apartments do not to look like a Comic Store: Tasteful Decorating

No, I'm not suggesting these because I'm a Christopher Lowell fan, but because these are things that took me time to learn from the time I was in college to now. I had to learn what worked for me.

Most women aren't worth the trouble. If they want to "play games" and "mind fuck" guys then let them do it to someone else.

And you can't say that guys never do the same thing to girls. It is dangerous to say that it is all their(women) fault when we(men) were the ones to teach them the game.

-keep on pimpin'

Platinum Blonde...
they are allowed to lurk... just not post... i know it can disconcerting at times... but all in all... i think it's actually a good thing...

Prophecy...
not all of us... *soft smile*

These questions really require some input from women.

Real Exciting topic. :D

MORE than 3?? Let's see:

• horny
• sleepy
• ??

Okay, I give up: what's the third?

Again, this requires a woman's input, since she's the one who's gonna judge it.

I forget which comic said it, but men are generally walking penises. We want pussy. We want it when we're ready for it. Other times, we want to be left alone. :D

I have to agree, sometimes the generosity of women is astounding!

Hey y'all! just a few thoughts here....

Mens Lounge? Forget it... What's the point? Because we're inmature little boys that need 'equality of portion?' Please... get over it...

Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women...

One thing I hate about women? What ever I might 'hate' about them, like any man, is a pointer to a limitation in Me.

It smells like penis in this thread.

Then how come there aren't more women?

Because the way most people find this site is via the Top Boobies link on fark. That tends to skew the proportion of those that join the site to being mostly male. A number of the women on here were introduced by a significant other, and most of the male population isn't willing to show the site to a SO. That's why the male population vastly outnumbers the female population. The females, however, tend not to fall into the lurking population as easily as the males do, that's why they seem to be more prevalent than their numbers would show.

Just a few more thoughts,

If you can get over the "us vs. them" mentality, you begin to see that women are *gasp* people.

And as *people* you begin to see that they:

-sometimes have their shit together
-sometimes are fucked up
-sometimes are incredibly kind and loving
-sometimes are very selfish and petty

So forgive me if I rant just a little at the generalizations I see in this thread, because if you can't see that guys are the same way, you are deluding yourself.

So keep that in mind when you read the posts in Ladies Lounge and you can learn a lot about women and why we love them.

Luckily for me, I don't search for Boobies non-stop and found the site thru a friend.. :)

IF there were to be a "mens forums", then I would hope the topics would be as good as Cyn stated them.

Will: Lurking in the Ladies Lounge? There in lies half your problem... you don't respect the privacy and boundries of others... especially women... which is why you have issues with women... "

Thats one hell of a Generalization you just stated. Ask the ladies, they personally don't mind if we read as long as we don't talk. IF you've ever looked in there, then you'd realize there is A LOT of useful information for any guy. We always say we're confused about stuff.. well shit! That room is our "cheat sheet" if you will. I don't talk, but I do learn... And wouldn't they want that? ;);) Besides, I could twist your generalization around by saying that everytime you look at some porn, you aren't giving them as much respect as you could by just looking at their bodies.... I read It, I admit it, but if I was asked to not.. then I would abide, just as if they asked my opinion.. I'd give it, without being an ass either, mind you. (not implying you were one) Oh and to note, I don't have issues with them. (not in the negative way at least ;))

I went to the Ladies Lounge once and they were talking about penises and periods and icky girl stuff. Yuk!



Then start some threads on these things 'cause I (apparently) don't know shit about them. We don't need a men's lounge for that.

i'm going to step in and stand up for Willow here... He is the ultimate respecter of women and stays out of the Ladies Lounge because He knows how i, his wife, feels about "lurkers"... and so He respects that.

i don't mind the respectful lurkers... but there are a few that lurk and then run to the General Discussion whining about the things we've said in there... case in point -- THIS VERY THREAD

Willow simply was trying to stick up for me... and the other Ladies... and tell those men who DO have issue with the LL to take a look at THEMSELVES... and ask themselves why they have such issues with it in the first place...

Great post, Prophecy, I agree 100%.

Generalizations = Bad

SpringRain
Alright, sorry about that :) Yeah, I (for some ungodly reason) forgot how people post crap after what they read. Funny that i forgot considering this thead is one of them. I will read, but I will also be respectful by shutting the hell up.:)

AND, I didn't mean to be rude to Willow (if thats how it sounded), it just seemed to sound like that everyone who reads in there has an issue, but I digress, sorry for any feelings I may have crossed, none were intended. And yeah he has good respect for you by staying out when you request it. :)

GakFace:
I copied this from the Tilted Forum Project index page:
Ladies Lounge
Girls' Night Out. NO MEN ALLOWED!

I respect that... if I have a question to ask of a woman... I ask... I don't hide behind the door and eavesdrop...

Regarding porn? Yep, I look at it... and yes... it is in many ways demeaning to women and sends the wrong message to the viewer that they are looking at some form of a real relationship dynamic... *chuckle*

:) GakFace... no hard feelings...

it's easy to misinterpret how things are stated out here in cyberland... can't see a person's face, hear the inflection in their voice, etc...

i was just sticking up for one Awesome guy out here... among others i might add... ;)

In the spirit of answering the question:
I get bothered by women because I want to treat them like princesses, but know that "treat them mean keep them keen" works so much better.

But I really wanted to post with two questions:
1) How does Hal know that Steph is a girl?
2) Did he chaneg the little tag line beneath goaterizer's name to Loser?

PS I too find Halx's avatar offencive, but only to my ego.

there's a ladies lounge?

personally, i love women :D
if we can post whatever we want why cant they?
you need to chill out man

Will: My porn thing was simply way to show how your generalization sounded tooooo general, again no harm meant by it. And yes it says no men... But I do believe the rules were to just not post, but this is something I care not to argue about, as no one shall win. Either way congrats on your solid relationship with SpringRain ;)

We, we, we, them, them, them.

Could I gently ask people to stop including me in their statements? And could I ask people firmly not to include my fiancee in their statements?

I don't really care what gender people belong to. Hell, I had a really good time talking to a post-op transexual on a long-haul flight once.

This is getting ridiculous.
And yes, Phredgreen, I can sense the aroma of penis in this thread. Could be Hal's.

You know, you can hangout in the ladies room if you learn to pee sitting down.

And ladies can use the men's room if they buy one of these gadgets:
http://masteroftheuniverse.8m.com/pix/piss1.jpg

So really, what's the big deal?:p