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Strange Famous · 01-10-2006, 12:02 PM

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Babysitters jailed for baby rape

Alan Webster had a "malign influence" over Tanya French
Two babysitters have been jailed for raping a 12-week-old baby and taking pictures of the abuse.

Alan Webster, 40, and his girlfriend Tanya French, 19, both from Hatfield in Hertfordshire, pleaded guilty to rape and making indecent images.

Webster was given a life sentence at St Albans Crown Court; French was jailed for five years.

International law enforcers alerted police after Webster downloaded 7,000 indecent images from the internet.

There are no words to express the abhorrence such offending generates

Judge Findlay Baker

The baby's mother was unaware of the abuse until detectives visited her home after finding photographs detailing the abuse at Webster's home.

Sentencing Webster, Judge Findlay Baker said the offences were committed against the "most vulnerable victim - a little baby".

"There are no words to express the abhorrence such offending generates," he added.

'Malign influence'

Sentencing French, he said: "You did not shrink away from the acts in which you joined, but looked forward to them."

But he said French was also a victim and had come under Webster's "malign influence" and was to some extent "corrupted by him".

French admitted four charges of rape, five indecent assaults, two charges of permitting indecent images to be taken of children and two counts of making indecent images of the child in February and March 2004.

Webster admitted one charge of rape, four indecent assaults, two charges of permitting indecent images to be taken of children and two counts of making indecent images of children.

Webster also admitted a separate charge of indecently assaulting a 14-year-old girl and seven offences of possessing child abuse images.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/4599524.stm

Kind of difficult to find any words for this. I dont know how people like this can exist

ShaniFaye · 01-10-2006, 12:21 PM

there is no way a normal size dick fit in that poor child (and the mother not notice tearing/bruising etc)

he must have an extremely tiny member

/goes to puke from disgust now

Glory's Sun · 01-10-2006, 12:24 PM

rape != penile intercourse

pretty disgusting. I'm curious as to whether the girl was really influenced by the man or if she's a sicko all by herself. I guess time will tell.

lurkette · 01-10-2006, 12:25 PM

Jesus fucking christ. What kind of depraved moron would do this? Ordinarily I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but in some cases it seems like there couldn't possibly be anything to redeem someone who would do something like this.

Sweetpea · 01-10-2006, 12:34 PM

oh my god.

i don't know what to say, that is truly sick.

sweetpea

Bill O'Rights · 01-10-2006, 12:37 PM

I don't get it. 12 weeks old? I mean this isn't even a prepubescent child. It's an infant, for Gods sake. Where is the "desire" (is that the word that I'm looking for?) in that?

I wouldn't worry, lurkette. I have a hunch that once his "crime" is made known throughout the general prison population, his "life" sentence will become a death sentence...soon enough.

maleficent · 01-10-2006, 12:42 PM

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French admitted four charges of rape, five indecent assaults, two charges of permitting indecent images to be taken of children and two counts of making indecent images of the child in February and March 2004.

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Webster admitted one charge of rape, four indecent assaults, two charges of permitting indecent images to be taken of children and two counts of making indecent images of children.

French seems to have a lot more serious charges against her - yet was only given 5 years -- where as the dude was given life... Because she was some sort of victim? that's not right...

JustJess · 01-10-2006, 12:47 PM

Pretty unusual to leave your 3 month old baby in babysitters' care instead of family.

That said, I am disgusted and appalled. Mal, I think you can chalk that up to sexism/ageism - men are always more responsible for such things, especially when they're older. Didn't you know?
ugh.

Glory's Sun · 01-10-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

French seems to have a lot more serious charges against her - yet was only given 5 years -- where as the dude was given life... Because she was some sort of victim? that's not right...

I didn't want to bring that part up since there are similar threads but yeah.. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

crow_daw · 01-10-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

I wouldn't worry, lurkette. I have a hunch that once his "crime" is made known throughout the general prison population, his "life" sentence will become a death sentence...soon enough.

Exactly what I was going to say. A vast amount of the guys in prison are in there for basically making emotion-fueled mistakes and the like. There aren't that many extremely sick freaks like this asshole in there, and when the other cons get their hands on guys like this..... well, yeah, he won't last long.

Good thing too, sick fuck.

Glory's Sun · 01-10-2006, 01:52 PM

in alot of prisons now there are seperate sexual offender wings. They aren't being put into GP as much as they used to be put there.

SirLance · 01-10-2006, 02:23 PM

These people should get exactly what they deserve. How sick!

xepherys · 01-10-2006, 02:38 PM

Sometimes cruel and unusual punishment doesn't seem so bad.

This kind of thing makes me physically ill. Not only to I truly hope there is a hell for these peoples souls to rot for eternity, I hope they are BOTH put into GP, and both get there's... over and over and over again.

stevie667 · 01-10-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

French seems to have a lot more serious charges against her - yet was only given 5 years -- where as the dude was given life... Because she was some sort of victim? that's not right...

Meh, the legal system over here rarely gets it completly right, but i'm glad they handed him the life sentance.

As for him not getting fucked up in prison, if the GP can get at Ian Huntley, they can get at him.

Slippery Slope · 01-10-2006, 04:43 PM

What sort of future will this poor child have now? If he/she isn't
physically damaged for life (hard to imagine otherwise), at what
stage in its life should it be told of this horrific occurance? If at all?...
I'd opt for keeping it from him/her but does it have a right to know?
I suppose it's inevitable that the truth will come out eventually anyhow.

Poor kid

I'm not normally in favour of the death penalty, either. But in
this case... I'd pull the lever, then go home and have my dinner.

tspikes51 · 01-10-2006, 10:32 PM

Death is too good for these people... I say they go to prison, where they should be released to other prisoners and dragged away after being beaten inches from their lives, twice daily.

Seeker · 01-10-2006, 10:34 PM

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Alan Webster, 40, and his girlfriend Tanya French, 19

Huh? The girlfriend wasn't young enough?!?!?

I really wonder how much trauma will play out through the baby's life because of this? Does a baby of this age have enough of a consciousness as to hold on to an experience like this? My first thoughts would be yes, but does anybody have any information about traumatic experiences at such an early age?

healer · 01-11-2006, 12:26 AM

Sadly, there have been a number of infant rape cases reported in my country over the last 6-8 months. The babies all aged < 3 years old, with the youngest reported case I can remember being a 6 week old girl. It sickens me. I'm so ashamed that someone else, another human being could be capable of doing something like this.

In quite a few of the cases, the parents/community of the children got to the rapist before the police did - with one fatality and the rest of them all beaten to within an inch of their lives. I don't feel at all sorry for them.

flamingdog · 01-11-2006, 02:46 AM

Degenerate is about the kindest word I can think of.

For the child's part, I would assume that there'd be no conscious memory of the act, but I wonder if there'll be any physical repercussions? Poor thing.

maleficent · 01-11-2006, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by healer

Sadly, there have been a number of infant rape cases reported in my country over the last 6-8 months. The babies all aged < 3 years old, with the youngest reported case I can remember being a 6 week old girl..

I read an article recently where this is becoming a fairly common practice in some african countries (South africa wasn't mentioned) because some believed it to be a cure for Aids...

That's sick enough- but these people go beyond that...

healer · 01-11-2006, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

... because some believed it to be a cure for Aids...

Yes. When questioned, that is the most common 'reason' given. I didn't think such levels of ignorance were possible. Oh and having sex with a virgin is also supposed to cure AIDS.

Bastards.

little_tippler · 01-11-2006, 06:46 AM

THIS IS APPALLING, the most revolting possible unimaginable thing..... disgusting, they should die many times over.

Martian · 01-11-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by stevie667

...if the GP can get at Ian Huntley, they can get at him.

Quite right.

I don't know how it works in the UK, but over here he'd go to federal prison. Once there, he would have to be under constant surveillance; while in the showers, in the yard, in the gym, in the library, in the cafeteria. All it takes is one opportunity for another prisoner to jam a shiv in his throat and it's goodnight, nurse. And given that just about every prisoner in the institution will want to do it and the guards probably won't be watching too closely...

I'd keep an eye out for the obit. Guys like this always get what's coming to them.

genuinegirly · 01-11-2006, 06:55 AM

Why would anyone consider doing this to a baby?
And WHY WOULDN'T THE MOTHER NOTICE that something was wrong?!?!?!

Is the mother facing any sort of sentence for child neglect? This is pretty messed up, but there's something going on there that the article isn't telling us. There has to be physical damage.

Toaster126 · 01-11-2006, 07:14 AM

I don't think being under his influence or whatever is a good enough excuse for the girlfriend. They should both get the chair.

rhaevyn · 01-11-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by healer

Sadly, there have been a number of infant rape cases reported in my country over the last 6-8 months. The babies all aged < 3 years old, with the youngest reported case I can remember being a 6 week old girl. It sickens me. I'm so ashamed that someone else, another human being could be capable of doing something like this.

In quite a few of the cases, the parents/community of the children got to the rapist before the police did - with one fatality and the rest of them all beaten to within an inch of their lives. I don't feel at all sorry for them.

Here in my area, a man was just recently convicted of raping a child who, I believe, was two years old. The mother had been selling her baby to men for sex.

This is absolutely disgusting.

Hash_Browns · 01-11-2006, 01:58 PM

I really didn't want to click on this, but I was hoping to hear that at least there was a statement made that the child suffered very little and was ok, but not even that...

My youngest daughter is just 4.5 mos. old and she's the youngest of three. I am very cautious about who is around my kids, let alone watches them unsupervised. My cousin was here babysitting before she was born, watching my then 5 and 3 yr. olds. I found out her boyfriend was here (she was 16 and he was 19 and her mommy didn't know about him and what I did know was a lie. What's worse is she did it with my other cousins around too...and they were looking at porn on my computer-but no one will name who did it.) you better fucking believe she got the ass reaming of her life. She has only watched my kids in a pinch ONCE more then a year later when that jerk was out of her life (or so we all thought). She was checked up on MANY times in a three hour daytime period let me tell you. As for the other cousins that were here, they were boys (12 and 14) any they are no longer allowed around my kids alone either. They are just to prepubesant and I know how they can be.

My girls know what their private parts are and what to tell people whom they don't know or do know who try to get near them. It really sucks that chastity belts aren't out there, cuz I'd be investing in them right quick! I hate to think that we would have to lower ourselves to that kind of thing, but if it keeps my children safe, then so be it.

As for selling babies for drugs, I am sure that living just outside of detroit that these things happen everyday and it really really freaks me out and makes me want to cry somedays.

Along the lines of Africa, someone posted that having sex with a virgin is what they call a cure...a virgin is one thing, a baby is another and I just can't believe that they don't see this as sick and wrong...either way its fucking sad that they don't get what they need to understand what it is that is killing them and how they are doing nothing but making it worse by trying to 'cure' it their way...

Sorry about the rant, but I couldn't help myself...these kinds of things bring out a lot of emotion. There's so much more I want to say, but most of the posts have covered it in a much nicer way then I could have, and my nicer I mean for those reading...not for those accused.

rlynnm · 01-11-2006, 02:08 PM

Thats fucking sick. I'm sorry I couldn't think of anything else more constructive to say.

How, why..I mean what the fuck?

flamingdog · 01-11-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

My girls know what their private parts are and what to tell people whom they don't know or do know who try to get near them. It really sucks that chastity belts aren't out there, cuz I'd be investing in them right quick! I hate to think that we would have to lower ourselves to that kind of thing, but if it keeps my children safe, then so be it.

I find this sad on two counts. Firstly that your girls have to be made aware of that kind of thing at their age, and secondly that the state of society is such that you feel it's necessary to do so. I really do wonder about humanity at times.

stevie667 · 01-11-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

Quite right.

I don't know how it works in the UK, but over here he'd go to federal prison. Once there, he would have to be under constant surveillance; while in the showers, in the yard, in the gym, in the library, in the cafeteria. All it takes is one opportunity for another prisoner to jam a shiv in his throat and it's goodnight, nurse. And given that just about every prisoner in the institution will want to do it and the guards probably won't be watching too closely...

I'd keep an eye out for the obit. Guys like this always get what's coming to them.

He'll have the option of going into protective solitary, otherwise he'll be housed in the GP parts of the prison, albeit in the higher security areas. The guards won't want him killed, but it can take a while for them to get to him after a beating...

Sgoilear · 01-11-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

French seems to have a lot more serious charges against her - yet was only given 5 years -- where as the dude was given life... Because she was some sort of victim? that's not right...

The miracle of the plea bargain. She gives them him and gets off light. On the other had he pretty much does have a death sentence. I wouldn't give him long odds on surviving long in prison. From what I understand inmates tend not to care much for pedophiles.

SERPENT7 · 01-11-2006, 09:38 PM

I have only 2 points:
Survival rates of pedos in prison: There was a study done by the feds awhile ago where they went around and asked people that had killed a pedo why they did it. Most said it was for contempt for his crime. Here is the interesting thing, though. Those that gave other reasons didn't even know what thier crime was.
There is a school of thought that views the prison as a less forgiving version of heirarchical darwinism, based on projecting strength. Predators prey on victims weaker than themselves. Pedos choose the weakest victims because they are the weakest type of predator. Pedos cannot project a strength they do not have, and end up being the omega, rather than anywhere close to the alpha. So, in any conflict, they are not very likely to understand how to respond, nor will they have the ability or inclination to respond violently. Thus they are more likely to be a victim when faced with the new social reality the prison environment represents.

Rape vs not noticing:
Jesus H Christ i cannot even approach this rationally.

Buzzaak · 01-22-2006, 05:11 PM

I know this probably wont make any difference in the long run, but can everyone please sign this petition directed towards Tony Blair, please please please sign it, pass it on etc etc.

BABY RAPE PETITION

feelgood · 01-22-2006, 10:38 PM

Give me the address and I got some friends that likes to have fun with people like him

Stiltzkin · 01-22-2006, 11:38 PM

Anyone that can bring themselves to do this has to already be pretty fucked up in the head. What is the mother's relationship to this guy? And how can she have left her child in the hands of someone who is so obviously messed up in the head?

Impetuous1 · 01-23-2006, 12:20 PM

This is incredibly sick. I would think that that poor baby girl probably will have some reproductive problems later in life. That bastard deserves to be tortured and then killed. I don't think it's right that the girlfriend got off that light either. She should at least have gotten life. As for the mother of the baby, somehow I believe some things are being left out. How could she not have noticed that something was wrong?

analog · 01-23-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

My youngest daughter is just 4.5 mos. old and she's the youngest of three. I am very cautious about who is around my kids, let alone watches them unsupervised. My cousin was here babysitting before she was born, watching my then 5 and 3 yr. olds. I found out her boyfriend was here (she was 16 and he was 19 and her mommy didn't know about him and what I did know was a lie. What's worse is she did it with my other cousins around too...and they were looking at porn on my computer-but no one will name who did it.) you better fucking believe she got the ass reaming of her life. She has only watched my kids in a pinch ONCE more then a year later when that jerk was out of her life (or so we all thought). She was checked up on MANY times in a three hour daytime period let me tell you. As for the other cousins that were here, they were boys (12 and 14) any they are no longer allowed around my kids alone either. They are just to prepubesant and I know how they can be.

My girls know what their private parts are and what to tell people whom they don't know or do know who try to get near them. It really sucks that chastity belts aren't out there, cuz I'd be investing in them right quick! I hate to think that we would have to lower ourselves to that kind of thing, but if it keeps my children safe, then so be it.

1. What actually happened with your cousin and her boyfriend? You didn't say. You just said "she did it with my other cousins around too".

2. Chastity belts? What the hell are you talking about? Why not just duct-tape your kids to the wall or put them in a cage until they're old enough? That's insane.

01-10-2006, 12:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	there is no way a normal size dick fit in that poor child (and the mother not notice tearing/bruising etc) he must have an extremely tiny member /goes to puke from disgust now __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

01-10-2006, 12:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	Jesus fucking christ. What kind of depraved moron would do this? Ordinarily I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but in some cases it seems like there couldn't possibly be anything to redeem someone who would do something like this. __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

01-10-2006, 12:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sweetpea Fade out Location: in love	oh my god. i don't know what to say, that is truly sick. sweetpea __________________ Having a Pet Will Change Your Life! Looking for a great pet?! Click Here! "I am the Type of Person Who Can Get Away With A lot, Simply Because I Don't Ask Permission for the Privilege of Being Myself"

01-10-2006, 12:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	I don't get it. 12 weeks old? I mean this isn't even a prepubescent child. It's an infant, for Gods sake. Where is the "desire" (is that the word that I'm looking for?) in that? I wouldn't worry, lurkette. I have a hunch that once his "crime" is made known throughout the general prison population, his "life" sentence will become a death sentence...soon enough. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

01-10-2006, 12:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
JustJess Unencapsulated Location: Kittyville	Pretty unusual to leave your 3 month old baby in babysitters' care instead of family. That said, I am disgusted and appalled. Mal, I think you can chalk that up to sexism/ageism - men are always more responsible for such things, especially when they're older. Didn't you know? ugh. __________________ My heart knows me better than I know myself, so I'm gonna let it do all the talkin'.

01-10-2006, 12:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	rape != penile intercourse pretty disgusting. I'm curious as to whether the girl was really influenced by the man or if she's a sicko all by herself. I guess time will tell.

01-10-2006, 01:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	in alot of prisons now there are seperate sexual offender wings. They aren't being put into GP as much as they used to be put there.

01-10-2006, 02:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
SirLance Junkie Location: In the middle of the desert.	These people should get exactly what they deserve. How sick! __________________ DEMOCRACY is where your vote counts, FEUDALISM is where your count votes.

01-10-2006, 02:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
xepherys <3 TFP Location: 17TLH2445607250	Sometimes cruel and unusual punishment doesn't seem so bad. This kind of thing makes me physically ill. Not only to I truly hope there is a hell for these peoples souls to rot for eternity, I hope they are BOTH put into GP, and both get there's... over and over and over again.

01-10-2006, 04:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Slippery Slope Crazy	What sort of future will this poor child have now? If he/she isn't physically damaged for life (hard to imagine otherwise), at what stage in its life should it be told of this horrific occurance? If at all?... I'd opt for keeping it from him/her but does it have a right to know? I suppose it's inevitable that the truth will come out eventually anyhow. Poor kid I'm not normally in favour of the death penalty, either. But in this case... I'd pull the lever, then go home and have my dinner.

01-10-2006, 10:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
tspikes51 Fuckin' A Location: Lex Vegas	Death is too good for these people... I say they go to prison, where they should be released to other prisoners and dragged away after being beaten inches from their lives, twice daily. __________________ "I'm telling you, we need to get rid of a few people or a million." -Maddox

01-11-2006, 02:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	Degenerate is about the kindest word I can think of. For the child's part, I would assume that there'd be no conscious memory of the act, but I wonder if there'll be any physical repercussions? Poor thing.

01-11-2006, 06:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
little_tippler Leaning against the -Sun- Super Moderator Location: on the other side	THIS IS APPALLING, the most revolting possible unimaginable thing..... disgusting, they should die many times over. __________________ Whether we write or speak or do but look We are ever unapparent. What we are Cannot be transfused into word or book. Our soul from us is infinitely far. However much we give our thoughts the will To be our soul and gesture it abroad, Our hearts are incommunicable still. In what we show ourselves we are ignored. The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged By any skill of thought or trick of seeming. Unto our very selves we are abridged When we would utter to our thought our being. We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams, And each to each other dreams of others' dreams. Fernando Pessoa, 1918

01-11-2006, 06:55 AM	#24 (permalink)
genuinegirly Eat your vegetables Super Moderator Location: Arabidopsis-ville	Why would anyone consider doing this to a baby? And WHY WOULDN'T THE MOTHER NOTICE that something was wrong?!?!?! Is the mother facing any sort of sentence for child neglect? This is pretty messed up, but there's something going on there that the article isn't telling us. There has to be physical damage. __________________ "Sometimes I have to remember that things are brought to me for a reason, either for my own lessons or for the benefit of others." Cynthetiq "violence is no more or less real than non-violence." roachboy

01-11-2006, 07:14 AM	#25 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	I don't think being under his influence or whatever is a good enough excuse for the girlfriend. They should both get the chair. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

01-11-2006, 01:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
Hash_Browns Psycho Location: Right behind you...BOO!	I really didn't want to click on this, but I was hoping to hear that at least there was a statement made that the child suffered very little and was ok, but not even that... My youngest daughter is just 4.5 mos. old and she's the youngest of three. I am very cautious about who is around my kids, let alone watches them unsupervised. My cousin was here babysitting before she was born, watching my then 5 and 3 yr. olds. I found out her boyfriend was here (she was 16 and he was 19 and her mommy didn't know about him and what I did know was a lie. What's worse is she did it with my other cousins around too...and they were looking at porn on my computer-but no one will name who did it.) you better fucking believe she got the ass reaming of her life. She has only watched my kids in a pinch ONCE more then a year later when that jerk was out of her life (or so we all thought). She was checked up on MANY times in a three hour daytime period let me tell you. As for the other cousins that were here, they were boys (12 and 14) any they are no longer allowed around my kids alone either. They are just to prepubesant and I know how they can be. My girls know what their private parts are and what to tell people whom they don't know or do know who try to get near them. It really sucks that chastity belts aren't out there, cuz I'd be investing in them right quick! I hate to think that we would have to lower ourselves to that kind of thing, but if it keeps my children safe, then so be it. As for selling babies for drugs, I am sure that living just outside of detroit that these things happen everyday and it really really freaks me out and makes me want to cry somedays. Along the lines of Africa, someone posted that having sex with a virgin is what they call a cure...a virgin is one thing, a baby is another and I just can't believe that they don't see this as sick and wrong...either way its fucking sad that they don't get what they need to understand what it is that is killing them and how they are doing nothing but making it worse by trying to 'cure' it their way... Sorry about the rant, but I couldn't help myself...these kinds of things bring out a lot of emotion. There's so much more I want to say, but most of the posts have covered it in a much nicer way then I could have, and my nicer I mean for those reading...not for those accused. __________________ Smile It makes people wonder what you're up too!

01-11-2006, 02:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
rlynnm Psycho Location: so cal	Thats fucking sick. I'm sorry I couldn't think of anything else more constructive to say. How, why..I mean what the fuck? __________________ The hardest thing is to be honest with yourself, especially if that means completely redefining the world you've come to know. Don't look too hard, I'm right in front of you.

01-11-2006, 09:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
SERPENT7 Crazy Location: Gold country!	I have only 2 points: Survival rates of pedos in prison: There was a study done by the feds awhile ago where they went around and asked people that had killed a pedo why they did it. Most said it was for contempt for his crime. Here is the interesting thing, though. Those that gave other reasons didn't even know what thier crime was. There is a school of thought that views the prison as a less forgiving version of heirarchical darwinism, based on projecting strength. Predators prey on victims weaker than themselves. Pedos choose the weakest victims because they are the weakest type of predator. Pedos cannot project a strength they do not have, and end up being the omega, rather than anywhere close to the alpha. So, in any conflict, they are not very likely to understand how to respond, nor will they have the ability or inclination to respond violently. Thus they are more likely to be a victim when faced with the new social reality the prison environment represents. Rape vs not noticing: Jesus H Christ i cannot even approach this rationally.

01-22-2006, 05:11 PM	#33 (permalink)
Buzzaak Upright	I know this probably wont make any difference in the long run, but can everyone please sign this petition directed towards Tony Blair, please please please sign it, pass it on etc etc. BABY RAPE PETITION

01-22-2006, 10:38 PM	#34 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	Give me the address and I got some friends that likes to have fun with people like him

01-22-2006, 11:38 PM	#35 (permalink)
Stiltzkin Junkie	Anyone that can bring themselves to do this has to already be pretty fucked up in the head. What is the mother's relationship to this guy? And how can she have left her child in the hands of someone who is so obviously messed up in the head?

01-23-2006, 12:20 PM	#36 (permalink)
Impetuous1 Insane Location: Arizona	This is incredibly sick. I would think that that poor baby girl probably will have some reproductive problems later in life. That bastard deserves to be tortured and then killed. I don't think it's right that the girlfriend got off that light either. She should at least have gotten life. As for the mother of the baby, somehow I believe some things are being left out. How could she not have noticed that something was wrong?