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How does one build an identity?

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by Lirpa, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Question: why settle on one identity?

    It may be subtly or astoundingly different, but I would suggest we are legion, we contain multitudes.

    There are subtle differences to how we present and appear to various people. It isn't always intentional.
     
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  2. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Yeah, I've read too much about Buddhism to want to cling to one static idea of identity. It's difficult to get your head around it, but examining the differences between self and non-self will teach you that our views of identity can be misleading and potentially distracting.
     
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  3. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    Oh, yes. I have multiple identities. Sometimes they are very separate, and sometimes they converge. There are definitely parts of me, especially my professional self, that I like to keep apart from other parts of me. The self I present at my workplace is in some ways very different, yet the same, as the self I am at home.
     
  4. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    The same but different.

    Multitudes.
     
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  5. arkana

    arkana Very Tilted

    Location:
    canada
    My latest decisions which have affected my identity have been to start aiming for 3 hours of practice a day, and to delete the Facebook app off of my iPhone. As a result of this I've had to face my own self much more. I can't distract myself with the FB app when I'm out of the house. Things are quieter in the mind but "problems" are more evident, and so I can get to solving them.

    These problems include musical ones and life ones. Nothing big, just things any person in their 30s ought to be thinking of. Wow what a loaded sentence. Anyways... the result of all this must be my identity? I think I'm aware of what I project but I prefer spending time on the roots of things rather than the leaves. And sometimes, maybe I fool myself, but I use the outward projection to inform the work on the roots. I.E. "Ali you are a musician with a bit of rep and in an advanced degree that is funded. Shouldn't you put down PvZ2 and practice those chords a few more times??"
     
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  6. Lirpa

    Lirpa Vertical

    This is amazing, isn't it? The internet has been a big component in my trouble with identifying the boundaries of my self and the rest of the world. I've heard more and more people talking about this lately. I think a lot to the analogy of the frog in water--increase the heat slowly, and it will hardly notice until it's boiled. I feel as if parts of me have fallen further and further into the background as I've let myself spend more and more idle time browsing. Without the discipline of intent and control over my attention, I forgot who I was. 2 months ago, things got to such a state that I wasn't able to pay for basic things I needed for my survival anymore. The phone and internet were wrapped up in that. It wasn't until I lost my sources of distraction and comfort that I realized what a terrible state my life was in--and I've spent most of the summer just tackling each problem that comes up so that I can get to the real business of developing my skills. I think your last line about the outward projection is a very effective motivator. Often times, I've looked around and reminded myself of opportunities I've lost and the potential that I have. That I really owe it to myself to dig deep and do something with all of that potential rather than letting it stagnate.
     
  7. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I don't think of them as separate identities, but I certainly have an edited demeanor that I use for work and in other similar situations that require a certain decorum. But all of my impulses are bubbling just beneath the surface. I've gotten pretty good at gauging situations quickly and knowing what and how much I can reveal and at what speed. The older I get, the more I prefer to maintain a certain level of candor at all times. This definitely helps with nursing because much of the time people don't want a 'professional' caring for them - they want someone who makes them feel comfortable. And I can't do that if I'm pretending to be someone else.

    Rather than identities, I think it is layers that we have. All part of the same personality.
     
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  8. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    I think that's a great way to look at it.
     
  9. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I started to think about it that way, but I am not so sure it's layer as much different faces we use for different situation. To me, layers implies there is a true core over which we keep piling more. I think there is a core but it's always beneath a mask and we have different masks for different people and situations.

    Ah heck, they are all just analogies to describe the same thing.
     
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  10. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I think so.
     
  11. ThomW

    ThomW Vertical

    This is all so fascinating I can hardly contain myself.

    I felt guilty this weekend because I hadn't yet replied to Lirpa, as I had promised early last week. I consoled myself by regarding the guilt as vanity.

    I'm going to do what I promised! But it's clear that Lirpa has things well in hand. Lirpa, you express that you knew what you had to do and you did it.

    A book title from The Sixties—a title actually worth the entire book (it didn't have a lot of insight, if I recall)—was Been Down So Long, Looks Like Up To Me.
     
  12. curiousbear

    curiousbear Terse & Bizarre

    Hmmm I have been working on losing my identity for a while now ....
    Looks like when I finish coming the full circle I will get there....
     
  13. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Rather than build an identity, I'd rather discover awareness/mindfulness. That is to say, rather than project myself as something I want to be (or think I want to be, or what I think people want me to be, etc.), I want to reveal and accept who I already am.

    I suppose I have a problem with the idea of building something as a sense of self. To me, it seems like artifice. I believe we are all whole people who already have everything we need to be fully alive. We don't need to build anything; we need to get out of our own way.
     
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  14. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    We read this poem this week in class and talked about it:

     
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  15. curiousbear

    curiousbear Terse & Bizarre

    Snowy, I am really taken aback you discussed this poem in your class. I felt a lump while reading the fourth line.
    How big are these kids?
     
  16. Lirpa

    Lirpa Vertical

    Wow, yea that's quite a poem
     
  17. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    High school.
     
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