Proof of Creationism?

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I think it's official the US is devolving. Apparently they're also teaching the positive side of the history of the KKK as well.

 

Um... no offense to anyone here, but, I'm going to voice an opinion:

Louisiana (where my brother lives, both of us originally being from California)... Louisiana, and the deep south states of the US are absolutely-100%-freaking-nuts.

Drive down Airline Blvd... North or south, or, to hell with that, anywhere in Shreveport, LA, and you will see church after church after church after church after church...
And you wonder how they support themselves... there aren't that many residents there.

Friends of my brother & sister-in-law...
They (my family's friends) used to hate the place. He (husband) now hates the place. She's turned crazy-Baptist-nut-job... repeating everything she's fed. He (husband) is thinking about divorcing his wife... both originally from S. American Roman Catholic backgrounds. That's how crazy nuts Louisiana is... they'll turn worldly people into BACK WOODS THINKERS.

My brother and I have had many, in-depth conversations on the matter... starting with me asking: "Since you're back in school and all, can you tell me, are the people here really as dim and dumb as they seem?" His reply was this: "Education is not big in the south." (More or less, yes...)

We discussed Southern Hospitality. We both agree that it's alive & well, BUT...
You are almost 100% guaranteed to be talked trash on and stabbed in the back the moment you're out of earshot... it's all about gossip.
So, you go to services on Sunday, you get out, you gossip with everyone, and you retire back to your place with a few friends from church, and talk-shitty-ass-trash on people you were just smiling and being friendly to... after you get out of / got out of services... where supposedly you go not only for the "good impression"... but also because this nature of a person is being a "Good Christian."

There's a whole other side of this I've discussed...
Educational arguments aside... people there don't like intelligence, at all. You are 100% guaranteed to be talked trash on if you show any level of intelligence higher than the (lower-than) average there. You will be outcast, people will not want to talk to or even be friendly to you beyond an obviously fake smile, if every-other-word out of your mouth is not "God-this," "God-that."

The people in Louisiana, outside of Baton Rouge and New Orleans (most of that city is scum, BTW) have very, very small & narrow minds. Not very worldly, and the place suffers like many small towns across the US, losing anybody with half a brain, to more cultured areas of the United States (but rarely abroad -- they're still limited in capacity). The only people that would like a place like Shreveport, LA, are those that live in outlying areas and don't have or don't know much about really big cities... any place larger, outside of that small-minded deep-south comfort zone likely comes across as culture shock, and they end-up moving home (or becoming NYC hookers or the likes, no shit, shame, you never return home).

People, like my brother and sister-in-law, and their friends (before she turned parrot-Baptist), move in, and, subsequently MOVE OUT. It's pretty much that unbearable, at least in Shreveport.

I could find myself living in New Orleans... I've found I'm not subject to the 3-day rule (most people get sick of the limited French Quarter after about 3 days)... but I probably couldn't live there for more than 5 years, max, out of my whole life (there's really not much to do).

Last but not least, one thing, that, though still reinforcing the negative, is actually a bit of a positive about the people...
They don't like you repeating something they've said, trying to "clarify" a stark difference in something they're saying now, versus something they've said before. You can have them on video or audio tape, play it back to them (such as in a court room), and they'll DENY IT VEHEMENTLY. My brother equates this to the following: They don't think or live with their heads... they have big hearts though... they think, feel, and live by the heart, and the moment.

Often enough, this is the curse of more intelligent people to be more rational (e.g. in the vein of human suppression of instincts & natural animal reactions), and step back and think about things... not people in the south... they live by the heart, and by the moment. I, personally, think this is one positive aspect, that I know I don't embody as a person, but would be a positive trait to have or aspire to...

Again, apologies to anyone in any way offended by this... it comes out of years of observation. I hate the general population in Shreveport, LA. (But, let me be more particular... I tend to like BLACK PEOPLE in Louisiana, than the mostly white-trash-scum that inhabit the place... I think BLACK PEOPLE in Louisiana, now, are much, much more intelligent than the average white population there... but this is just my impression & opinion; you got ghetto-trash everywhere you go, too, though... )

 

Straight from those deep-deep intellectuals residing in the Praise-Jesus hills of Ohiotucky...

 

Evolution works with populations. Individuals are irrelevant (unless there crops up a group of individuals who release a game-changer such as self-replicating nano-bots, a sustainable black-hole released into the earths core, fantasy of that ilk). That Darwinian fact is repeatable - evolution deals with populations, not with whatever group is caught up in surges of silliness over religious affiliation or geographic origin.

The actions of bible thumpers, or Islamic fundamentalists, or any of the multitudes of ideologically blinkered groups we as a race throw up will in the long run be as relevant to humanity as the long-forgotten disputes and ideologies of the builders of Stonehenge are to us today. The idiocy of any group of people who put faith ahead of knowledge and understanding is an unpleasant and inescapable idiosyncrasy of humanity. This idiocy is not anything we can solve though debate or rational interaction. All we can do is try to survive it. Be the ones that reproduce successfully. Do not be among those who slaughter each other in bloody, bizarre disagreements about doctrine and faith.

It is a given that you have to program religion and control the minds of people who are thusly programmed. Scientific knowledge can be independently verified and tested, questioned and requestioned. Religion cannot stand up to such testing. Which means that eventually the beliefs will fade away and be forgotten, replaced, evolution of beliefs that leave obscure fossils (Stonehenge is one such fossil) behind. The Louisiana Creationists will pollute minds for a few generations but eventually that story-book crap they peddle will wash out of the belief system, to be replaced with another upwelling of religious froufraw. The verifiable, testable, readily repeated scientific knowledge that is for now being denied by some citizens of Louisiana will not go away. Which makes me smile, actually. Evolution in action.

 

I remember my first biology course after leaving the military. I'd decided rather quickly that I needed a degree and without much planning enrolled in college. Poor planning on my part left me sitting in a biology class at 0800 after working until nearly 0300. The instructor gave a little speech about what we'd be learning and then asked if there were any questions. I must have been in "haze" mode as I really don't recall what lead to the first question but it was from a 20 something lady who asked "if that's true then explain why men and women do not have the same number of ribs?" I remember thinking "what?" The instructor, some what amazed, replied "men and women have the same number of ribs." The next few minutes amount to a back and forth of "do not" "do so", "you're wrong" and "no, you're wrong." Finally the instructor said "look I can bring in some x-rays for the next class and you can see for yourself."

About two days later I heard the young lady telling the instructor after a lot of thought and talking it over with her family pastor she's was going to drop the class. I never saw her again.

I hope she's not home schooling her children but I wouldn't bet against it.

 

Google it and you'll find a bunch of folks asking about this-

Why do men have one less rib than women do?

 

Yeah, WTF.

 

Following that expression of anatomical ignorance - why don't they wonder why women have more than one?"
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I'm not usually a proponent of extreme or violent measures but for fucks sake, enough is enough.

 

I would suspect all your questions can be answered with the magical "God's hand ensured the space and food would be bountiful."

 

One of the more interesting refutations of the flood I read recently compared the historical records of the Egypt against Ussher's chronology - Pyramids of the 6th dynasty were built in the 150 years or so immediately following the flood. So in order to believe the flood you'd have to believe that not only for some reason Noah's descendants resumed building pyramids and writing the same manner as Egyptians, all while Egyptian writings fail to mention the flood at all, but that the first 6-7 generations of those 8 people's descendants managed to build a handful of pyramids in those first 150 years.

 

I think the claims both by evolutionists and creationists that the ark somehow had 10,000 bird species is absurd. I think it's more likely that a few species of birds produced the 10,000 species we have today. I think this make much more sense and you can see it in certain animals today.

 

yeah i just think creationists are missing the boat trying to explain tens of thousands of species on a vessle that is about 450' x 75'. also the difficulty of 8 people to take care of that many animals is impossible. i think it would be better explained by speciation to make the bible account fit with logic.

 

My toes just curled.