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Shut up and take my money.

Discussion in 'Tilted Gear' started by Xerxes, May 25, 2012.

  1. Xerxes

    Xerxes Bulking.

    I was walking at the mall and saw a sunglasses hut. What would it hurt to take pictures of yourself in new shades right? So I walk in and there's this chick with the skrillex haircut tending to some elderly ladies. I walk in on time to see them swiping their cards and leaving.

    "Suckers", I thought gleefully to myself. This was going to be purely an ego trip for myself. You know how girls go into stores and try on everything then buy nothing? Yes. I was planning on doing exactly that. So skrillex chick saunters over to me and introduces me to Oakleys. Must have been her recent sale that gave her swag level unlimited so when she sold me, she sold me like a pro. I was ready to part with mine and my next three generation of souls from my first born children and theirs to come after she told me all the company schpiel. You know, the usual, how Oakleys sunglasses are bullet proof (My eyes quit literally watered at the sheer will it took to keep them from rolling) and all that jazz. But more importantly, they were polarized.

    Polarized sunglasses are the shit. And I am now out $154.99

    That bitch.

    OK, you go.
     
  2. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    I don't get it. What is it you want to discuss?
     
  3. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
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    Ambush-style sodomy of the wallet, I think. You know, being sold on something you previously had no interest in buying.

    You and I may be too cold and calculating, but I'm sure some more impulsive TFPers have purchased a Flowbee.

    This thread will probably involve tales of mall hall booth fast-talkers and door to door salesman.

    Typically the people that fall for said crap are the Maury viewing demographic.
     
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  4. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I don't understand being suckered out of 150 dollars for a pair of sunglasses.
    No one, I don't care how skilled they are at sales, could talk me into such a thing.
    I don't get it.
     
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  5. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    I think the point is: what situations sell you like a sonovabitch?

    Me? Sunglasses? Never.

    However, if she were selling me award-winning video games at 50% off, telling me how awesomesauce they were for her (hot nerdy chicks are hawt), I'd have handed over my credit card.
     
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  6. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
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    FWIW, $150 isn't actually too far off the MSRP for the brand/type of sunglasses mentioned in the OP.

    Really, it's not a whole lot different than paying $6 for a beer at a baseball game.
     
  7. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    It certainly is much different than paying $6 for a beer at a baseball game. It's $150.

    $150 for a pair of sunglasses is inconceivable to me. Understand that in many ways I am a foreigner here.
     
  8. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

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    It's a luxury brand item. Do I really have to explain that concept to a middle class white woman that lives in Florida?

    Anyway, my point was that many folks are cool with paying for the convenience of "right here, right now."

    Some people are willing to pay x% more for something that they can have instantly.
     
  9. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    No salesperson could talk me into shelling out more than $20 for something that I don't need. Read: need.
    That's not to say that I don't go out of my way to find things that I don't need and buy them.
    I guess I am pretty definitive on what I need and what I want. Salespeople are ineffective against my own self-sales mechanisms.
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    Yes, luxury brand items have no meaning for me. That comes as a surprise?
     
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  10. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

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    Not at all. You've got like 19 kids. You're obviously very frugal in an effort to support your other hobbies: family and stuff.

    But I'm sure, as an intelligent woman, you understand the concept of luxury brand goods, especially fashion accessories.
     
  11. I think as you 'mature' you are less likely to fall prey to paying for fashion, just for fashion's sake. At least I have.

    Having said that I just paid significantly more that $150 for a new pair of sunglasses. They are prescription, no line bifocals and best of all they FUCKING POLARIZED!!!!! The frame was one of the cheaper they had at $115. Could have drop three times that for a name brand frame. I drive a lot, having a great pair of sunglasses is a necessity. Having a name brand frame isn't as important to me.
     
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  12. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I understand that they exist and that people buy them.
    If they're not frigging wealthy, I don't know how they sleep at night.
     
  13. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    As a salesman myself, I absolutely hate salespeople. I spend money all the time on stuff that I don't need, or that I shouldn't, but I can honestly say it's basically never because a salesperson closed me.

    The last three cars that I've purchased I've shopped for online and went into the dealership knowing exactly which car I was getting, and the last two exactly what price I was paying. The one that I didn't know the price, when the sales guy went back to check with the sales manager what their "best price" would be I told him "Greg, I'm just telling you now that you get to walk back there one time. I know what I'm willing to pay for the car. If the price is acceptable to me I'll buy it as soon as you come back. If the price is too high I'm going to thank you for your time, walk out, and I absolutely will not be back." He came back within $200 of what I wanted to pay (which I hadn't yet shared with him) and I signed the papers.

    My home I purchased from a close friend who was building a new home. We worked out the contract ourselves and never had a realtor involved. Almost any purchase I make, other than menu choices (and sometimes even those), I make by doing research ahead of time. Very rarely do I window shop, and when I do I'm still in and out in no time. No offense to anyone who does, or has, worked retail sales, but I hate dealing with 80-90% of people in that position. I know some people won't speak up, and it's good service to ask, but if I need help I'll ask, and otherwise prefer to shop on my own. I hate malls, Walmart, and basically any dept. store. Sometimes they are a necessary evil, but I bet I haven't stepped foot in a regular mall in almost two years, and I haven't bought anything at Walmart for over a year (and that was just a wireless router that I desparately needed same day on a Sunday). I better shut up or I'll keep ranting. :eek:
     
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  14. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    I remember this one time 4-5 years ago in the Mall of the Emirates in Dubai. Went with my friend to go skiing (yay for skiing!) there and wanted to get my signature and favorite perfume: Issey Miyake's L'eau D'Issey.

    Entered a "perfume store" and this superhot girl approached me to sell her product (still talking about perfume). She bombarded me with, probably random, words for easily 20 minutes while I looked at her with a blank stare and imagining what else I could get her to sell.

    When she was done, I went aheady and got myself the Issey Miyake perfume.

    You suck for falling for salespeople's crap, Lickspittle.
     
  15. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Part of it is in the eye of the beholder. Part of it depends on the exact item.

    Take sunglasses as an example. For years I used to buy the gas station glasses, or the $16 knock-off ones at the mall kiosks. The lenses scratch easier, the frames bend or break easier, etc. They usually would need replaced after a couple of months. I drive 25+ hours a week on average because of the work I do, usually during the day, and my eyes are fairly sensitive to light. Bad sunglasses end up giving me a headache. The last couple pairs I've gotten were about $80-90. I consider that fairly expensive, though I know people who've spent $200-300 on name brand sunglasses. But to me it is a worthy investment because a pair like that will usually last me 2-3 years, saves me from scratches and damage (unless I'm really harsh on them), and prevents headaches. I also tend to take care of them better because they typically come in a better case, and I feel more incentive to be careful with a $90 pair vs. a $12 pair.

    So does that fall under a luxury item or a necessity? I know from experience that if I buy a $15 pair I'll go through 5-10x as many pairs in the same time frame. So the cost ends up lower in the long run, but many people when told "hey, I dropped almost $100 on these sunglasses" would immediately think that was frivilous.
     
  16. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
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    As someone who has studied, trained, and worked in sales, I know exactly what goes on, why, and how. Most retail salespeople aren't very good, but they don't get very good training, they don't work in a very good sales environment, and the pay is shit. I like to play a game where I count the trial closes and close attempts as they come. They're usually so blatantly obvious, and in most cases they are done at the wrong time or without the proper setup.

    That said, I will say this: the best salespeople are those who close you without realizing you've been closed because it feels so natural and that you're the one in control. It's not always solely because of the salesperson, but the good ones know how to capitalize on their respective opportunities.

    If she was really that hot, I probably would have went all aheady too. :p
     
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  17. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Amen to that, brother. :D
     
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  18. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    Of course it depends on the perception of what a person needs and why. That's not the story that set up this thread, though.

    Plus, paying $200-300 for something you could get an equivalent of for $80-90, to me, is inconceivable. Granted, that is just me and I realize that. I just don't understand why someone would come to that buying decision. I don't share that impulse to have things because they are connected with a name out there that everyone associates with some vague image of significance. Plus, it's paying into a culture that I don't respect.
     
  19. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member


    That's fair. I'm not one for name brands that others notice, though there are a few that I personally like. Mostly it is because of previous experience or referrals, not because the brand is the "IT" brand of the minute. Maybe I'm completely fooling myself, but I think that the nice things I do choose to splurge on are for me, not necessarily so that others notice.
     
  20. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I totally get that. And I do the same in my own way. For instance, there are certain brands of clothes (chiefly jeans, t-shirts and scrubs) that fit me better than others and I search those out. Of course, almost without exception, I buy them all second hand. :)
     
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