Trayvon Martin.

Lighten up, ace.

Or get a clue.

The requirement for a CCW permit in FL is a few hours of classroom (basic safety) training and firing one round. Does that qualify one to pull a weapon in a tense situation in a public place?

NRA political contributions are in the 8o-90% range for Republicans.

Get a clue.

 

What was the point of your misleading post? The NRA's interest is in gun rights, many regardless of political affiliation share that interest. Others still support the NRA's efforts in gun safety and training.

 

Or maybe you believe the NRA fundraising fear mongering rhetoric of a "massive Obama conspiracy to destroy the Second Amendment" if reelected.

Get a clue.

 

CCW permits have differing requirements by state, I have no objection to a national standard. Nor do I object to higher standards. I would say the same about a drivers license.

The NRA will financially support those politicians who support gun ownership rights. If you have data that contradicts that, let me know. In addition, many individual members, don;t face a choice between an anti-gun and pro gun politician. In many locals their choices will be between two NRA members, or two gun owners, etc. - those people make political choices on other issues. In addition many see gun issues as a secondary issue to other factors. The NRA actually has to put a lot of effort in raising funds for political purposes.

The clue, I suggest you get is to get to know the NRA and its membership. Your caricature view of NRA members is off the mark.

 

I provided the data.....80-90% of NRA political contributions to Republicans over the last twenty years.

So where's the caricature?

 

The laws in Chicago and in Illinois are unacceptable and not supported by any NRA member that I know. If you are going to argue that Obama is actually "pro gun", I don't know what to say to that.
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Stop being ridiculous. If in 80-90% of the time where it is an issue the money goes to the guy who is "pro gun" why is it a surprise???? If your data shows 80-90% of the money going to one party when both candidates are equally pro gun, then you have a point! Come on, we are grown ups here, stop with the weak talking points - come back stronger.

 

I didnt say Obama was pro-gun. In the case of Chicago, as state senator, he supported the city voters having the right to make their own decision.

Is that part of the "massive Obama conspiracy" that you should fear?
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I did not say it was a surprise.

You said it was a caricature and the numbers suggest it is not.

 

Ted Nugent was the caricature at the recent NRA convention.

Calling Obama a criminal and denouncing his “vile, evil America-hating administration” which is “wiping its ass with the Constitution.” And suggesting that “If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”



Or maybe not so much of a caricature.

 

As a gun owner and a NRA member, I just have to say, I really wish Ted would shut the hell up. He gives all of us a bad name.

 

Hey Capn

Is Wayne LaPierre, Exec. VP of NRA part of the 1% with his "massive conspiracy" said on the record on numerous occasions, that by not pushing for new gun laws in his first term, Obama actually revealed that he is engaged in a secret plan to "lull gun owners to sleep" so that they would not vote him out of office in 2012....claiming that Obama's "strategy" is to "get re-elected" and then "erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights."

 

redux,

I'm not a genius, but it seems pretty goddamn obvious: NRA leadership represents the extremist set as far as propaganda in the gun world. That's what they do as an organization. Really, it's no different than Handgun Control, Inc. and the Brady Campaign. It's no different than Jeff Cooper rambling about his "hoplophobes." No different than all those non-bombing pro life people or the pro choice people that don't get blown up by them.

If you've got a hate thing going for NASCAR, you probably wanna avoid looking at their administration, too. Those gas-wasting motherfuckers.

This really is way off topic. If you'd like to start another thread where you can tug your pudding at crazy old Wayne and CHUCK "GOD-REST-HIS-'MERICAN-SOUL" HESTON, I'd get on it. This thread is about a police fuckup and a vigilante, not gun politics. Not that you give a shit.

Kitchen sink me. It's popular in these discussions, I'm learning.

 

I agree that the largest gun rights advocacy organization in the country is extremist and says some "pretty dumb shit" on the record.

 

You're just down the street. Let's go shooting sometime. The NRA headquarters is in Fairfax, Virginia and features a very nice 50 yard indoor range.

...I'll buy you a tactical hoodie.

/somebody post a flaccid dick picture already, this thread blew its wad 50 posts ago

 

I had enough interaction with NRA when I was at NCPC and had to hold McGruff the crime dog back from taking a bite out of NRA ass and starting an all out war.

 

How about giving some stats on this - compare strict local/state gun control laws and crime rates. There are exceptions but empirically, pro-gun ownership laws equates to less crime in an area - anti-gun ownership laws equate to more crime in an area - in the US. I know there are many other factors to consider and that there may not be a causal correlation - but I know it was a factor when I made a choice of where to live with my family. If people like Obama don't want the power with fire arms to defend his family, that is his business. I don't want him, you, or anyone else telling me how I choose piece of mind and how I choose to defend my family.
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This is kinda right, but it is not. The NRA's agenda is pro-gun ownership. Party is not a consideration. The Republican Party is made up of more pro-gun ownership people than not. In some parts of the country the Democratic Party is made up of more pro-gun ownership people than not. The NRA support goes with the pro-gun ownership agenda. Your presentation is twisted or convoluted but in either case it is misleading. What I don't know is if you do it on purpose or if you don't see the difference. This is not a complicated point.
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As if LaPierre is the only person who does not trust Obama? How many times have I stated that? On one hand you agree that Obama's view is not consistent with the NRA's and now you try to make a point about the Exec VP of the NRA making that point using similar hyperbole used by almost all politicians???

 

I didnt know that you were a conspiracy theorist who thinks Obama has a secret plan to destroy the Second Amendment.

Thanks for clearing that up.