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Recipe Tea: What are you steeping these days?

Discussion in 'Tilted Food' started by cynthetiq, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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  2. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Ah, Iron Buddha...Iron Goddess of Mercy. I love this tea. It's my regular oolong. I just bought some on Monday.

    Though the stuff I get is probably 2nd or 3rd grade. (It's pretty cheap...but good!)
     
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  3. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    It's one of my favorite teas.
     
  4. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    In pursuit of tea's Sebastian talkin about white teas.
     
  5. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    I still need to post Sebastian's tea talk from last week, but tonight I broke out the
    鐵觀音 or Iron Goddess of Mercy. It's amazingly good.
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  6. b2653009 Slightly Tilted

    Oh my gosh Cyn, that tea is making my mouth water. :p lol
    I've been drinking waaay too much coffee lately. I've gotten back into that terrible habit. I should quit cold turkey again and go back to drinking tea.
    I shall start tomorrow. :)
     
  7. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    Settie I have to do the same, except for me it is soda. I dropped it for a few months and only drank tea. I have to get back to doing that. Today will be a soda-less day.
     
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  8. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    As most of you know, my wife is British, so she's a tea freak. I've tried to get into some but I can only manage to drink black and breakfast blends. (no sugar or cream thank you) She prefers loose leaf which is fine with me, but she'll also brew up some white, green and oolong. I tried matcha and a white tea and it was horrid. Is this an acquired taste? I'm still mostly a coffee guy, but a nice black tea in the evening is good too.

    She has some loose leaf that her mom gave her. No idea what it is because all the labels and packaging is oriental. It's loose leaf that's all I know.
     
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  9. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    Most coffee drinkers won't like green or white teas, mostly because it has no mouth or body to it in comparison to coffee. I'm not such a fan of green, tastes too much like grass. White is okay but I also find ti too grassy most of the time.

    Try a lapsang souchong (light smoke or dark smoke) or a Pu-erh. They are very full bodied.
     
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  10. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    What cynthetiq said. White, green, and oolong teas are quite a departure from coffee. Full-bodied black teas are much closer to coffee in terms of robustness and caffeine content.

    I do think certain varieties of tea comes down to an acquired taste. I wasn't all that much into green tea in the past; now I think it's the best. Also realize that there are regional differences. For example, there are characteristic differences between Chinese green teas and Japanese green teas. Dragonwell is different from gyokuro or sencha.

    Also: Did you steep the green/white tea for only 2 or 3 minutes? I know the British like to steep the shit out of their tea leaves, but I'm not sure how they typically approach green tea, which becomes bitter if oversteeped. Unlike many black teas, green tea shouldn't typically be bitter. White tea in particular is the most delicate type and shouldn't be abused in water that's too hot or by oversteeping.

    If you like tea without milk and sugar, try Darjeeling. It's a bit milder than most black teas, but it's wonderful on its own. It's one of my favourite black varieties.

    Matcha definitely is an acquired taste. There are also a few different ways to prepare it (i.e., water-to-tea ratios). There are different grades that offer different levels of sweetness. Some mix better than others. I tend to use 1 tsp of tea in 1/3 cup of water. I enjoy a cup of matcha first thing in the morning.
     
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  11. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    I'll check out those teas and see what happens. The green was steeped for 2 minutes at about 190F..should it have been a higher temp?

    I steep the shit out of black tea-- 5-6 minute range at 200+F

    Since I'm a coffee guy, I'll keep the robust teas in mind as I'm sure those are the ones I'll be able to handle. My wife *LOVES* coffee, but tea is too built into her dna to not enjoy it I think.

    oh and Earl Grey was gross.
     
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  12. b2653009 Slightly Tilted

    *gasp* How can you say that about my delicious EARL GREY! *cries* I <3 it so much, its my go-to tea. But I'm also a cheap tea drinker. :p I'm trying to finish up all I have in the house before I go out and buy new varieties. Cyn is right about Pu-erh though. To get off my coffee fix last time, I would drink Pu-erh to satisfy my cravings. But sadly, with my kidneys being all weak and shit, I'm not supposed to drink black teas anymore. Only herbal and white. *sulks*
     
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  13. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    Settie -- don't worry, I was slapped by my wife for saying that about Earl Grey. It's like some British birth right bullshit or something and when I said it to her mother, I thought I was going to stabbed. I had to hear the history about it, and then after saying history doesn't make good tea, she started up her prim & proper British act that annoys me to no end.

    To each their own I suppose :)
     
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  14. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    No, that's about right. But you should definitely try some higher grade greens, such as the Chinese Dragonwell and Japanese gyokuro, the latter of which is basically sencha tea that is shaded a few weeks before harvesting, giving it a unique flavour. It's very rich. I love simply smelling the dried leaves. (A cheaper alternative is kabusecha, which is similar but shaded for a shorter period. It's also very good.)

    There is such a difference between how green tea leaves are processed. This is partly due to the tea being more delicate than black tea. You get different characteristics with steaming vs. frying vs. roasting, etc. This is why it's good to try a variety of greens to see if you find one you like more than others.

    Atta boy!

    In defence of Earl Grey (and to defend teh Settie's honour), there is a world of difference between common Earl Grey with "natural flavouring" and high quality black tea leaves with actual bergamot oil!

    I know your wife is British and all, but have you actually tried the good stuff? Or do you just not like citrusy tones in your tea?
     
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  15. Random McRandom

    Random McRandom Starry Eyed

    She does get the good stuff..not the stuff you can buy at walmart etc. She buys from an online dealer and goes to Southern Season with her mom 2 or 3 times a month. Ok..well I don't really know what the good stuff is, but it's not cheap, so I assumed it wasn't the average every day junk. I'm also pretty sure her Earl Grey has actual oil in it, but I'm not sure. I'll have to check when I get home.

    When I first started considering tea, I didn't think it would be anywhere near as complicated as coffee.. boy was I wrong.
     
  16. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon assuredly the cause of the angry Economy..

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    can coffee be considered a type of tea?
     
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  17. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Heh. In many ways it's more complicated. I find that coffee is less forgiving in terms of making it: roasting, freshness, grinding, freshness, brewing, freshness, etc. :p

    Tea, on the other hand, seems to have so much more going on in terms of the leaves and how they're grown, harvested, and processed. There's much more to navigate in terms of products out there.

    I view this as a semantic question rather than a culinary one. The answer is yes. Coffee can be considered a type of tea if you consider that you can make a "tea" of anything you make a hot drink out of by infusing it. Consider beef tea. :)
     
  18. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Glory's Sun: You might also want to try hojicha. I find it is a wonderful, less caffeinated alternative to coffee. It's roasted bancha green tea. It has a completely different flavor because of the roasting.

    I also agree with what Baraka said about the difference between Chinese greens and Japanese greens--I like Japanese green teas, and my husband loves Chinese greens (you will pry that tea out of his cold, dead hands). He drinks far more green tea than I do, though--I prefer oolong or white in the afternoons. In the mornings, I enjoy a cuppa of breakfast tea (but only if I'm out of coffee).
     
  19. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

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    I have a can of pepsi on my desk. I have not opened it. Instead I had a lipton bag of tea... I feel dirty.
     
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  20. b2653009 Slightly Tilted

    LOL Cyn! I didn't drink any coffee all day! But I did have a can of coke at lunch -_-
    And other just now because of car crap stressing me out, I needed a fix of sugar.
    I did drink some Earl Grey around 3, noms. I might have some chai tea tonight, or lavender...haven't decided...