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Politics Who's Gonna Win?

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by issmmm, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    I wonder who will win in a three way race between Romney, Santorum, and Paul? Who will the other 28% of voters go if they don't have the other candidates taking away their votes?

    That is why they need to have playoff style voting or ranked voting.
     
  2. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon assuredly the cause of the angry Economy..

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    identical to yours
     
  3. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

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    Ugh, my mistake....sorry for the mishap. It was meant for loquitur.
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    I believe it will be Mitt man winning the Republican nomination.
     
  4. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    It is far from being over. And even though Romney and Paul are the only ones on the VA ballot...

    I'd question whether the average Perry, Bachman, or Gingrich voter would ever vote for Mitt.

    And I read this, which says that Mitt shouldn't be so quick in bragging about winning Iowa. If only 5 votes had been miscounted, it could have been a different outcome. And Santorum would have won.

    Anyways, Jill Stein (http://www.jillstein.org/) is a better choice than Mitt or Santorum. :)
     
  5. uncle phil

    uncle phil Moderator Emeritus (and sorely missed) Staff Member Donor

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    ya know, i'm not a politics guy, but if mccain hadn't chosen that bimbo from the frozen north to be his running mate, he probably could have won the last election and we wouldn't be faced with this plethora of non-candidates...

    just my opinion...
     
  6. samcol

    samcol Getting Tilted

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    i can't believe mccain endorsed romney. i'm not even sure romney appreciated it? i mean the guy who couldn't even compete against obama is giving the possible future gop nominee an endorsement. sounds more like a curse than a blessing to me. if i was romney, i'd want to stay as far away from bush/mccain type people as possible.
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    i really dont think mccain ever had a shot against obama tbh regardless of who he picked as a running mate. if anything the only excitement from his campaign came because of her.
     
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  7. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    I hadda get this in and I won't bore you with links, it was a Yahoo article, and like a lot of news stories the headline says it all.

    Gingrich to Blacks ' demand paycheck not food aid" the article goes on to say that if invited by the NAACP (at least that's the group I think mentioned) to speak that would be his subject matter.

    the first thing that occured to me that if I were head of any of those organizations I would be on the phone personally inviting him to speak right now. I would corner the snack concession and bring in every reporter who wanted to come.

    Does this guy NOT have someone working for him that wants him to win?
     
  8. samcol

    samcol Getting Tilted

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    I guess the only response i have is that he's campaigning to republicans right now and not the nation as a whole. what he says now to try and win will be forgotten by time he runs for president, just like conservatives forget that he's not really a conservative at all.
     
  9. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Interesting that the Boston Globe endorsed Huntsmann instead of local boy Romney today. Although most of the endorsement is "here's why Romney sucks".
     
  10. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    I get that, I even get that it's realtivley safe for him to say in that he's not counting on the Black vote.
    But to offer up such a broad judgement of a people, any people, at any time during a campaign, I don't get.
     
  11. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

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    I believe there will be ups and downs, but Romney has the money and organization. I also think most republicans think he is the only one who even stand a chance of beating Obama.
    He knew Iowa would extremely difficult...that's why he originally wasn't going to bother with a lot of campaigning there. The numbers made him change his mind.

    Obama 2012!
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    I agree, McCain was not going to win in 08, but my god, she certainly helped voters in the decision-making process.
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    I heard that on NPR on the way home.....talk about blatantly playing the racial stereotype. As usual, his facts are incorrect. Only 1/5 of people receiving food stamps are African-American.

    My word, we've only gotten through one state, and my head is ready to fall off my shoulders from too much repeated shaking of it in disgust.
     
  12. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    We've discussed this topic for several pages now, so this might come across as repetitious (or even stating the obvious): Romney is the Republicans' best chance at beating Obama because he's the most moderate. The Republican candidate will need to be open to stepping towards the centre and away from the recent timbre of the right if there is any hope of winning a presidency.

    To beat Obama will require beating him on his own territory. The Republicans are squabbling somewhere out in Never-Never Land.
     
  13. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    And who will Romney pick as his VP choice? Palin would be the right choice for him I think to help him get the conservative vote. Rubio would be another one.

    Romney will have to do something bold to get the rest of the GOP to get excited about voting for him. Ron Paul as the VP might be an interesting choice too... He has to unify the republicans (anti-mormon, conservative, libertarian, and fiscal conservatives groups to vote for him)

    Obama probably has 3:1 odds right now over any GOP candidate. And if the unemployment numbers get to 7% by Nov, it should be easy.
     
  14. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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  15. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

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    Romney's tax plan will certainly be fuel for Obama in the general. Cut the wealthy, and business, tax rate significantly, minimal middle-class increase, while increasing tax on the poor.
     
  16. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Since Palinmania, many Republicans have been harping on what essentially amounts to Reaganomics 2.0 as the panacea for America's current economic woes. (Though it could be said that some of them are actually going on about what could be called post-Reaganism, a pining over the elements about Reagan's policies they like best whilst ignoring or denying the elements that liberals would carry out.) That's also the main reason why they've been calling Obama's Keynesian policies socialism (which basically means "the tools of communism").

    You see, the problem in America is that the stimulus spending is permanent and the rich are taxed too much.

    It should be obvious.

    Any of the Republican candidates would have done just fine in this next presidential election, because they aren't trying to bring you guys more of that godless, anti-American, progressive, liberal, socialist communism; they're trying to bring back True and Free Traditional American Values™ (even if they have to make a zombie out of Reagan to do it).
     
  17. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

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    Haha, unfortunately they seem to fool many Americans with their rhetoric.

    Romney's new tax plan only increases the federal deficit 180 billion....funny how just this past summer they were ready to shut down the govt. because the it was crashing around us because of the debt.

    Just amazes me that after all the "Occupy New York" protests they have the balls to still submit lopsided tax plans that favor the wealthy.
     
  18. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    It's because the idea that the average american isn't a leech just doesn't compute for them. They actually believe the demonstrably false nonsense about job creators that they spout on a regular basis.The job creators are entitled to the tax cuts, because we're all parasites living off of the success that they provide.

    I personally like hearing Romney talk about how scary it is to lack economic security. Totally makes him seem more genuine. It's similar to how Gingrich seems more genuine when he pretends to be able to experience human emotion and Santorum seems more relatable when he pretends to not be a giant bigot misogynist.
     
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  19. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

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    Ha,ha...like your second paragraph :)

    I guess I just have a hard time accepting that anyone could truly believe such nonsense.
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    Thought I'd share this open letter that was in the Daily Kos. I really liked the first few paragraphs....after that it was a bit garbled and repetitive.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...le-who-hate-Obama-more-than-they-love-America
     
  20. samcol

    samcol Getting Tilted

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    one of gingrich's ex wife apparently did a campaign ending interview. also perry is dropping out today, looks like it's a romney paul santorum race now if gingrich's wife isn't lying.