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diabetic

Discussion in 'Tilted Food' started by ralphie250, Jul 27, 2019.

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are you diabetic

  1. yes

    2 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. no

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  3. im not but know someone who is

    5 vote(s)
    45.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    You were wrong saying he has pre-diabetes.
    You're wrong about the "diagnostics on the pancreas" part. IF he changes his diet and lifestyle, and IF he loses weight he will find out if it can be reversed.
    You're wrong about his risk of DKA. Do you realize how many Type II diabetics are walking around right now with blood sugars in the 200s? I'd bet tens or hundreds of thousands in the US alone. Do you know how many are going to develop DKA? Almost none of them.
     
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  2. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Understood - clearly you're not willing to actually lay out an informative response and instead rather focus on singling out aspects of my comments as a "gotcha", so I'll leave this line of conversation with a last remark that you're wrong about the risks of DKA and you're being reckless in your statements on it.

    @ralphie250: I suggest you take the long-term health consequences of where you're at currently very seriously and take the necessary steps to improve your overall condition and maximize your chances at reversing it. There's a lot of research to do on nutrition if your general health is a priority to you now.

    EDIT: Also ralphie, you may also consider a personal anecdote of mine. One of my cousins, who is your body type but much younger, was wheeled into an ER a few years ago with a case of DKA while clocking in at 310 blood sugar.
     
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  3. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    @Remixer you asked "what exactly is inaccurate?" and "curious what I got wrong..." so you shouldn't get bent when he "singles out aspects of [your] comments" It looked to me like that was exactly what you were asking for.:) Am I wrong?

    When I follow a fairly strictly controlled carb intake diet I go into a state of ketosis (not ketoacidosis) and would sometimes be in ketosis for a couple of years with no harm done and then drop out of ketosis with increased carb consumption.
    I credit @fflowley for his knowledge on subjects like this because he's a physician and has years of medical school training plus what he sees in his daily practice and the medical literature.
     
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  4. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    I have a high appreciation for someone to call one of my many idiot statements out and provide a counter-argument with supportive information, but his response was to
    a) take statements out of context, e.g. I never said ralphie is pre-diabetic, but rather made a comment re: Metformin and in hindsight in a clumsy and almost vague way was conveying that a diabetes diagnosis doesn't have to be a permanent condition and that he needs to act immediately if he wants any chance at reversing it; and
    b) make simple statements without bothering to provide any supporting info - with the one re: DKA just plain ridiculous to make. Knowing he made that statement as a physician is moreso disappointing, but I'll just put it down to him being accustomed to being surrounded by people on the standard American diet (which is sheer stupidity) and many being afraid to engage with professionals/get prescriptions because of your broken healthcare system.

    I do appreciate the knowledge foundations of MDs and I'm glad he was able to guide you successfully with your keto diet, but one thing to keep in mind is that many MDs are not up-to-date on the most recent research, especially as it pertains to nutritional science, so it's prudential to look more deeply into the individual needs & responsiveness of one's particular body.
     
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  5. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Its all ok, i understand everyones perspective. and believe it or not im actually learning alot from this thread.

    i will say this... i thought my appt was on tuesday, but i was fucking wrong...... its next week. i went in and they looked at me funny and realized what happened. but on the bright side i did get a journal from them and some paperwork to fill out and some informative literature.

    i do appreciate all the PM's

    i love each and every one of yall, thank yall for being helpful, informative, and caring
     
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  6. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    well mine is getting under control, slowly.... my sugar is averaging 115 which is better than it was. still trying different medications. but i haven't been in the last few months with everything going on. but my endocrinologist does keep in touch with me via email about every 2 to 3 weeks. never thought id like a dr to do that, but it makes me feel good like they actually care.



    next issue...
    Long story short, my wife told me last night that she has been feeling kinda crappy for the last few weeks. she went to her endocrinologist via video appt, and they discussed a few things. she had a urinalysis done and it showed sugar in her urine.... fast forward she is now in insuline and her normal dosage of metformin, and something else that the name escaped me at the moment.
     
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  7. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    Way to go Ralphie.
    And you and your wife can succeed together.
     
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  8. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Yes we can, together we can do anything
     
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Well update...


    Things were going great for both of us. Then shit happened....
    .first of all we will talk about my wife. hers is good. she is on isuline and has lost about 35 pounds and is doing great. Thats the good news..
    The bad news is me :(:(:(
    Things were going good. then my dr changed my meds and they had horrible side affects told her about them and her answer was "you need to take them" . That was not the answer i was looking for. I was not seeing any results and just bacically got pissed off and said fuck this and quit taking them. I know that was wrong but i just felt like she was saying that she didnt care, so why should i? I know thats not the right answer, and i quit taking my sugar levels.... I know I know wrong decision...
    Then covid happened so i just never went back, My wife on the other hand kept doing what she was doing and things were good.

    fast forward to June of this year.
    My wife kept asking me when i was going back and i kept blowing it off, and she knew that she asked me if i would atleaset take my sugar levels. I agreed and did it every morning for a week (oops bad decision) They ranged from 398 to 502 . Thats bad.... But me being the ignorant person i am i jsut kept chugging along feeling like ass. Little did I know that after that week if she got up in the middle of the night to pee or whatever she was poking my finger and checking them while i was asleep ( i am a HARD sleeper so i never knew it) after a month she did the math and an overall average of a month fasting my glucose level was 485. now remember i had no idea what she was doing. At some point she made me an appt with her endocronologist that she knew i would like.

    Two days before my appt she informed me that she had a dr appt and wanted me to go with her so i might have a better understanting. And of course I told her of course id go. We walked in and she went to the desk and filled out some paperwork, i just assumed she was updating something. then the Nurse lady (the one that takes you in the back) came through the door and said MY name...... I knew she had got me and i was fucked. But I know its cause she loves me. weighed me and did blood pressure all that stuff, too some blood. and the whole time she was jsut sitting there smiling... lol

    The dr came in and let me say she was right I loved her. didnt feel rushed or anything. It was a great experience for what it was. The dr called about 2 days later with my results from my blood work. my A1C was 12.1 I know thats bad, but really dont know how bad. i have a pen i use once a week called Ozempic (i think), and something called Jardience. she told me about the side affects of the jardience and told me if i got any and didnt like it to call right then and she would change it.

    So we will see. I just hate being labeled as a diabetic
     
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  10. fflowley

    fflowley Don't just do something, stand there!

    For a lot of reasons, you're a lucky man Ralphie.
     
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  11. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    I know, im the kind of person that if I dont like a dr I just go through the motions. Getting an appt as a new patient anywhere is a pain in the ass and takes forever. But yes you are right
     
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  12. Dayja New Member

    Location:
    Arizona
    Ralphie, Please take care of yourself and follow the doctors suggestions. As a child of a diabetic parents, I had a terrible childhood, waking up to EMT trying to revive one of my parents. I would cry myself to sleep and worry all night wondering if I was going to wake up and have no parents any longer. It really screwed me up because I became so obsessed with everything I ate out of fear that I would do the same thing to my kids, but this has caused me other health issues from sever malnutrition.

    If you don't do it for you, please do it for your loved ones. You never know what is going through your loved ones minds watching you go through this.
     
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  13. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    Dude, your wife really loves you and knows you all too well.
    You came way too close to killing yourself and I'm so glad she was there for you.
    Please don't let your stubbornness take you out.
    Your kiddo needs you and your wife needs you.
    I can only say this because I'm a lot like you and am only here because my kiddos did something similar.

    Take care of yourself.
    We would miss you terribly too.
     
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  14. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
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  15. akmechanik New Member

    Location:
    DE
    Hi good morning,..!
    My Max is 732 and 14,8 hcb1 okay at Januar this yeahr okay. And make Insulin 35 - 40 Klicks per Injektion
    Fuck
    And i go to Hospital for 4 weeks and make my disc bakside LWS5 bevor Operation have no feeling in my foot left and right and close my eyes and I can not my brain go out. Make operation at this disc. When i wake up oh my Gott my foot is Hot and all fine and make w days Not eat from my Doc okay and make Insulin and make 15 Klicks at first day when i eat and at this time i make for night longtime 14 Klicks at this time make nothing in the night and when i eat make 4-6 Klicks to my food. Is total crazy i have problems at Transport my Blood at this disc to my food and back and make many troubel in my life i hope I must in next time nö make Injektion my HCAB1. Is 7.4 at this time and go done
    My Name is Alexander and my englisch is very terebel Sorry




    Gesendet von meinem H8324 mit Tapatalk
     
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  16. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    I know,

    Thats why im doing what the Dr. wants me to do. It just got aggervating when the other Dr make me feel like a number.
     
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  17. PonyPotato

    PonyPotato Very Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Add me to the list of people who are happy that you 1) shared your struggles, and 2) are still around and starting to get back on track.

    Part of the problem with digital/text communication between doctors/patients is that much of the nuance is lost. Had you told her in an actual visit (even video over telehealth) that you were having unpleasant side effects that you couldn't stand, you probably would have come to a better understanding of each others' point of view on the topic. Instead, via text, you probably didn't see any concern, while I'm sure she was concerned about the side effects but wanted to see if more time would level them out.

    I hope the new doctor relationship continues to go well and I hope that you are able to get your A1C in line. BTW, the typical A1C goal for type 2 diabetes is 7 or less. I hope you can set a goal with your new doctor and reach it.

    Take care!!
     
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  18. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    To be honest one problem i have is sweet tea. I mean I love me some sweet tea.
    My coffee is just creamer, no sugar. and ive never really been a soda person.



    are nuts bad? I know my mind went straight to the gutter, lol i mean like the can of mixed nuts
     
  19. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    Since I'm allergic to nuts I had to look this up.

    "Nuts can be a good snack for people with type 2 diabetes because they may help prevent heart disease, keep blood sugar controlled, and even aid weight loss. When you're looking for a satisfying diabetes-friendly snack, it's hard to beat nuts."
    Almonds, walnuts, cashews, peanuts and pistachios are supposed to be the best.
     
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  20. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    That's a handful, not a can full.;)
     
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