Politics The Probe

rogue49 · Aug 21, 2020

Opinion | The Trump Campaign Accepted Russian Help to Win in 2016. Case Closed.

Another nail in the coffin
But no one is still paying attention enough to do anything

1. Nothing is going to happen
2. We’re waiting on the election
3. Ts teflon makes Reagan look like sandpaper
4. The Russians themselves are likely adding to the smoke & mirrors (if not continued payoffs)

My question is
IF Biden is elected and takes control
Will something be done???

A. The Russians who’ve done stuff and continue
B. T and his administration
C. His allies, IF they took bribes etc (basic stupidity isn’t illegal)
D. The election system (all the above to fix)
E. The cybersecurity which is Swiss cheese

ASU2003 · Aug 29, 2020

I don't know if Biden will do much. I would hope that there would be some Benghazi like hearings at the least. And I would expect the Biden administration to try and make it impossible for any Trump to run for office in 2024 or past that.

But the bigger question is what happens when a political party and it's supporters are OK cheating if it allows them to win?

rogue49 · Sep 2, 2020

The IRS commissioner who has withheld Trump's taxes is profiting off Trump properties

Oh, no conflict of interest at all here...

This is getting ridiculous...and redundant

PLEASE someone go to jail already
And STAY there

rogue49 · Sep 13, 2020

And it just keeps going...
A veteran DOJ prosecutor has resigned amid reported concerns that Attorney General Barr is trying to force the release of a politically charged report ahead of the election

And you know there will be more.
Especially if T loses.

Chris Noyb · Sep 13, 2020

rogue49 said: ↑

And it just keeps going...
A veteran DOJ prosecutor has resigned amid reported concerns that Attorney General Barr is trying to force the release of a politically charged report ahead of the election

And you know there will be more.
Especially if T loses.
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And the DOJ wants to defend Shyster Trump against sexual assault charges that happened (allegedly)**before** he was POTUS.

My tax dollars. Your tax dollars. Our tax dollars. At minimum Shyster is worth 200M. Let him hire and pay for his own attorneys. And reimburse the government, i.e. us, for all costs, such as Secret Service protection.

rogue49 · Sep 30, 2020

Dude, you fucked up...face it
And you screwed the pooch on announcing a non-starter on Hillary days before the election

You may investigate fair, but you lost your mission
And you suck at communicating or politics

And you helped put in a guy that will tarnish your name forever

Talk about unintended consequences...

Comey tries to defend Russia investigation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...00aafe-01af-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html

rogue49 · Oct 1, 2020

Judge orders DOJ to publish info redacted as privileged from Mueller report

I wonder how long it's going take them to dig thru all the coverup...

rogue49 · Oct 4, 2020

‘Mueller’s pitbull’ has a few regrets

Duh, anyone that didn't have an agenda against it...and was watching...could tell ya that.
Frankly, he punted.
AND Barr repressed as much as he could to minimize it and play it out further.

Comey screwed up
Mueller screwed up
McCabe screwed up
Rosenstein, Barr and the rest of the T administration did a whole bunch of smoke & mirrors to distract.

And the public, as a whole, are fools for believing
As well as those officials who are supposed to be doing the RIGHT THING. Protecting us.

This has put the whole county into jeopardy
And reduced out clout and capability in the world...and against out enemies.

Hell, I'll even blame Obama for being complacent and too "fair" to truly address a VERY serious national security risk.

As I tell my mother, there's a time to stop being PC and fair...and call the strikes and plays as they are. And ACT on them.

Get a pair of balls, be the adult, make the call.

I hope Biden, if he wins, can do this.
Or will he be like everyone else...and sweep it under the rug???

rogue49 · Nov 15, 2020

Trump can still make it very hard for the FBI to investigate him next year
From a self-pardon to ordering Justice Department memos, the president has the power to protect himself
Asha Rangappa November 9, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EST

The final votes from Pennsylvania and Nevada not only changed President Trump’s political future — they changed his legal prospects, too. When Trump leaves the Oval Office for the last time, he will face potential liability for any criminal acts he committed while in office, and even before. Between now and Jan. 20, though, Trump has a lot of power to make it harder for the Justice Department and FBI to follow through on any investigations once he is no longer president.

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Until now, the office of the presidency has largely shielded Trump from the prospect of criminal prosecution. Some of this is because of Justice Department policy: Despite finding substantial evidence of obstruction of justice in the Russia investigation, for example, special counsel Robert S. Mueller III declined to charge Trump, citing a 1973 Justice Department policy memo precluding it. Attorney General William P. Barr has further protected Trump, defending the president’s actions in public and pressuring prosecutors who might harm the president’s interests in private. But without the immunity offered by his position, and with a new attorney general in charge under Joe Biden’s administration, Trump will be accountable to the law like any other citizen.

Trump reportedly planned to fire FBI Director Christopher A. Wray once the election ended. While that might be emotionally satisfying for the president, we saw when he fired former director James B. Comey that simply deposing the head of the FBI doesn’t actually stop any ongoing investigations. Nevertheless, Trump can take much more concrete steps to protect himself and his family than the simple symbolic one of throwing out an appointee he has decided was disloyal.

The strongest, and broadest, immunity from federal prosecution for Trump would come from a presidential pardon. President Gerald Ford offered Richard Nixon a blanket pardon for any crimes committed while in office, and President George H.W. Bush — with help from Barr, then also the attorney general — pardoned six people involved in the Iran-contra affair in 1992, stopping two ongoing prosecutions dating back to the Reagan administration dead in their tracks. However, since President-elect Biden has categorically stated that he will not pardon Trump, Trump would have to engineer that during the transition.

He has two options. First, he could try to pardon himself. This is a risky move, as whether a self-pardon would be constitutionally valid is an unsettled legal question because no previous president has tried it. Most legal scholars agree that it’s not permissible, though, and if a Trump pardon of himself were later challenged and invalidated, he would be back to square one. Alternatively, Trump could resign at some point before his term ends at noon on Jan. 20, 2021, leaving Vice President Pence to assume the presidency, however briefly — giving him the plenary power to pardon Trump. Thanks to the precedent that Ford set with Nixon, such a pardon, which Pence could also extend to members of Trump’s family, would probably be constitutionally secure if it covered uncharged crimes committed while Trump was in office.

Trump also has a couple of quieter options he could pursue behind the scenes to protect himself. For one, he could get Barr to provide “legal cover” for anything that future prosecutors might want to examine in the form of internal memos written by the Office of Legal Counsel. We already know that Barr has expressed, before taking his current position, legal theories supporting an expansive view of presidential power — including the idea that the president cannot, as a matter of law, obstruct justice.

Barr also determined (without investigation) that Trump’s solicitation last year of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden was not a “thing of value” that would have constituted a criminal finance violation. The Office of Legal Counsel could incorporate arguments like these into official legal positions of the Justice Department. While they wouldn’t be binding on a future attorney general, they would undermine future investigations and prosecutions by giving Trump a basis to argue that his actions were legally justified and sanctioned by his own legal advisers.

Trump has a bigger problem with investigations that have already taken place or that may be actively underway. For example, the indictment by federal prosecutors in New York of Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen for campaign finance violations stemming from the concealed payment before the 2016 election to a porn actress alleging an affair with the president lists “Individual-1” — who appears to be Trump — as a co-conspirator. It is also possible that federal law enforcement officials there or in other jurisdictions might be actively investigating Trump for tax or bank fraud, given the series of reporting based on Trump’s tax returns.

Barr can’t make these investigations literally disappear: The investigative documentation that has been gathered is protected from tampering at this stage. However, he can “paper over” the files, adding memos justifying closing the case(s) or calling into doubt the evidence or the assessment of investigators or prosecutors who have worked on them. We have seen him do this already in his attempt to reverse the sentencing recommendation of Trump’s campaign adviser Roger Stone and in the Justice Department’s current attempt to drop the charges against Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

By “poisoning” the cases in this way, Barr can effectively plant exculpatory material into the record (prosecutors would be legally required to provide these memos to Trump’s defense team) and set up future prosecutions to seem as though they are pursuing legally baseless cases because of political bias.

Of course, none of these actions would protect Trump from being prosecuted for state crimes — a very real possibility, given that the New York attorney general and the Manhattan district attorney are actively investigating Trump’s finances and those of the Trump Organization. They also wouldn’t cover any crimes that might be uncovered later (it’s hard to imagine that even a blanket, retroactive pardon would legally cover crimes that were unknown at the time it was granted), and a pardon extending to uncharged crimes before Trump took office might be open to legal challenges.

And, of course, it’s hard to know what Trump might do during the transition itself, if he feels panicked and decides to get rid of anything he thinks might incriminate him. Any records relating to Trump’s official duties as president, even if contained on personal devices or servers, are officially presidential records, and attempts to destroy them would constitute a new host of federal crimes.

In short, Trump won’t be in the clear, no matter what he does, once he no longer has the protection of the presidency. This is especially true when we consider that the FBI’s counterintelligence interest in Trump will continue even after he leaves office: He’ll still know highly classified information, so it will be more important than ever for the intelligence community to know whether foreign countries have any leverage they can exploit over the former president. This would provide grounds for further investigation into Trump’s, and the Trump Organization’s, financial entanglements abroad.

Still, before Trump leaves office, he has the power to muck up any cases that could be made against him by a future Justice Department — enough to set up Biden to continue as the villain in the same “witch hunt” narrative Trump has been talking about for the past four years.
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He's known for taking every step to CYA
He'll do the same now and afterwards

But they should dive in anyway
The more known the better.

Go after him??
I don't know, because even if it may mean justice
There could be unintended consequences...
Like keeping him in the spotlight, revving up his base, etc

Would it be best to let New York do the deed???
Those aren't federal laws
And his supporters can't blame Biden, the Dems or the nation.

Maybe just feed that prosecution behind the scenes...
Info is info. NTTAWWT

Freetofly · Jan 31, 2021

I haven't seen any discussions on Crossfire Hurricane. I believe the whole Russian Probe was a distraction to Hillary Clintons email disaster. A lot of information has been released. FBI really needs a make over.

Judiciary Committee Releases Transcripts of Interviews Conducted During Oversight of Crossfire Hurricane Investigation | United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary

ASU2003 · Feb 5, 2021

Now that the FBI and Congress could investigate this without fear of outside influence or retribution, maybe they should get the truth out there, whatever it is. There is plenty of smoke there, but I doubt that Congress or Biden has much desire to have Congress and the media get bogged down in a Congressional hearing on it.

omega · Feb 1, 2021

Freetofly said: ↑

I haven't seen any discussions on Crossfire Hurricane. I believe the whole Russian Probe was a distraction to Hillary Clintons email disaster. A lot of information has been released. FBI really needs a make over.

Judiciary Committee Releases Transcripts of Interviews Conducted During Oversight of Crossfire Hurricane Investigation | United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary
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Considering that that administration had an extreme credibility problem, and worked to intentionally mislead and lie to and evade legitimate questions by the Meuller investigation, pretty much anything can be dismissed from them. Those people lie about eating hot dogs while ketchup and mustard is on their ties and their breath smells like pig assholes. And lindsay Graham is being blackmailed by Putin. Notice his extreme about face of someone who used to have no morals but a little integrity, to being a tool for Trump. Probably a few page molestation videos about, or even a hunky honeypot tape. So yeah, crossfire hurricane can be filed with the magic durham report that's coming any day now. Lock her up! Mexico will pay for the wall! Better cheaper health plan in 30 days.

rogue49 · Feb 3, 2021

Analysis | The weird threats Lindsey Graham and Trump’s lawyer are making about calling impeachment witnesses — The Washington Post

And now that a new administration is in...
A new or continuing probe

Basically, unraveling all the plans and scams of T and his cohorts

The things they are shouting about
Are from those who are desperate...And have nothing else to stand on.

They’re spitballing
Seeing what sticks, what’s allowed, what they can get away with.

I think you’re going to see a house of cards collapse
IF the Dems continue to press forward

Basically a blowfish
Trying to scare with air

Chris Noyb · Feb 3, 2021

Ideally:

Very clear absolute proof will be found that Conman Trump definitely knew well in advance that an invasion of the Capitol Building was planned.

Trump will testify, and be tripped up the above proof. He'll first lie about knowing, then brazenly justify his actions by claiming election fraud.

Reality:

Even if the above happens, the vast majority of Republican senators will vote to acquit.

Freetofly · Feb 5, 2021

ASU2003 said: ↑

Now that the FBI and Congress could investigate this without fear of outside influence or retribution, maybe they should get the truth out there, whatever it is. There is plenty of smoke there, but I doubt that Congress or Biden has much desire to have Congress and the media get bogged down in Congressional hearing on i.
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This I can agree on.

rogue49 · Feb 7, 2021

Democrats' big shift in Trump's second impeachment — POLITICO

Again, I think they should throw everything at him and the kitchen sink.

Make the GOP squirm, make those in opposition feel like justice is being done by making it on record

We all know it’s very doubtful the GOP will allow 16 Senators to convict

So the only thing is to keep shaming them.
Like a beating drummer

Sorry, GOP this will be your Benghazi
What’s good for the goose...

The BIG difference is, here there was something actually done wrong...illegal, treacherous, dangerous.
(not caught with your pants down but instigated, cheered on and even planned and plotted)
HUGE difference.

rogue49 · Feb 11, 2021

Well, isn’t that special???

And this just makes ya nauseous...
'Very unusual:' Senator reacts to key Republicans' private meeting with Trump's lawyers — CNN Politics

Again...likely coordinating with Ts lawyers
Just like the 1st impeachment

So much for any impartial vote (which we knew anyway, but come’on )
They’re complicit
If they weren’t already complicit before leading up to the riot.

Chris Noyb · Feb 11, 2021

rogue49 said: ↑

Well, isn’t that special???

And this just makes ya nauseous...
'Very unusual:' Senator reacts to key Republicans' private meeting with Trump's lawyers — CNN Politics

Again...likely coordinating with Ts lawyers
Just like the 1st impeachment

So much for any impartial vote (which we knew anyway, but come’on )
They’re complicit
If they weren’t already complicit before leading up to the riot.
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Hopefully they're telling the attorneys Conman is going to get convicted.

ASU2003 · Feb 12, 2021

At least one of them would greatly benefit from Trump not being able to run in 2024, so I think the media should be hyping up that they might be trying to sink his chances of not getting away with it.

rogue49 · Feb 13, 2021

Acquittal, but Not Vindication

From the Editors of the National Review, a conservative media outlet.
That they have even this to say, is striking...but quite frankly, they've not liked Trump. Didn't offer a recommendation for presidency, either time.

This whole term has mostly about anger...not intellect. Tear it up!
Which is what the rioters did.

The Impeachment is a formal process...but totally political in results.

There will be more...The Probe remains.
They will find out more...more digging, more reveals.
And more court cases...
From States, other countries, etc.

We haven't even heard from the IRS yet, now that he's out.

The Probe continues
It's still finding all the pieces of the body.

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